What's the earliest age you'd give a smartphone to a kid?
13
>>51711620
when they start high school
already i see 2 year olds with their own tablets and I just nope silently
When they're old enough to drive. Also, if you're a millennial reading this: your brain is permanently fucked up and you're gay
In Finland everyone gets a smartphone when they start 1st grade. Finland also has the best education system in the world.
Not till he can afford his own.
>>51711620
how tightly can I lock it down?
in the highly unlikely event I would ever have a kid, I'd keep tablets and smartphones away from them until they're a teenager, or close to it, and only then without the ability to install their own apps, social media blocked in the browser, etc etc. A desktop computer in their own room I'd give them at, like, 5 or 6, though. I'd put Linux on it and slowly remove the restrictions on it, and then around 11 or 12 give her the root password and tell her it's all hers now.
Whenever he/she asks for it.
I'm not expecting my kids to be technologically illiterate nor will I force them to be.
>>51711620
12 seems reasonable. That being said most kids are gonna have they're in the double digits now. Seriously, fuck the smart phone industry, pushing consumerist shit onto kids like that.
>>51711714
>arguing about how kids shouldn't get total internet access
>on 4chan
>>51711620
Probably 15.
>>51711734
Its true tho. If I had never found 4chan I would probably have more conformist opinions and a less abrasive personality. I would also probably have more money somehow.
>>51711734
We grew up in a pre-facebook era. The web was an esoteric thing full of nerds. Now it's full of normies and there are giant companies dedicated to tracking every move you make forever. That'd be my bigger worry.
Plus, hands up, who in our generation got their start in computer knowledge from sneaking crap past nannyware? I want my kid to chafe just a bit at the restrictions so as to have some motivation to learn to try and get around them.
>>51711760
yeah, but i guess 4 chan has forged our personalities, i mean, its full of shitposting, and pretencious people/haters but those haters made us what we are today
>inb4 a bunch of faggots
>>51711620
i'd give her my smartphone if you know what i mean
>>51711714
And then your kid would be issued a tablet or laptop at school, or they would have access to computer at school/with their friends.
My parents tried some similar shit with me, anon. It didn't work. It never works.
>>51711800
well, just restrict pornhub and xvideos and your son will have all the motivation to stop being a tech illiterate/normie
18.
>>51711800
this
>>51711620
12. It's when I'd give my kid a phone to begin with.
>>51711760
You'd probably be the same sort of loser you are today, except more of a normalfag.
>>51711800
a good third of what I knew about computers as a kid came from trying to get around the school computers' restrictions
When they can afford it, or at least half of it.
My mom always had me pay 1/2 of anything i wanted such as a Game boy.
It isn't hard to scrap up $50 in a few weeks when you're in adolescence. I got it by pulling weeds and shit.
fuck that, they can buy their own damn smartphone
>>51711670
im a millennial and i didn’t get my first smart phone until I was 18, and it's the same one I still have.
>>51711683
And a Greece-tier economy
>>51711620
When I can trust them to go somewhere like a friends house on their own
When they're old enough to comprehend the depraved wall of pudgy pimply onahole humping furry porn drawing arch ricing hentai fapping neckbeards that will come rushing their way, should they let on they're a minor.
tl;dr when they're 40
>>51711620
so... she has a tattoo of a car brand there... wtf
>>51712001
Ayyyy
>>51712063
young and dumb, shes allowed to
>>51711683
Nokia doesn't count Bork senpai
kek
Fucking kids have phones since like 5
Your kid will be the loser one if you don't give him an smart phone when he is 5
>>51711915
I want to say this, but they're going to be so out of touch. They're going to be the weird poor kid that no one wants to invite over because they can't play some game with them.
>>51712114
>Kid will be a loser
I'm fine with this, spoiled cunts need to learn how to work hard for shit anyways.
>>51711620
When they finish high school. Dumbphone during high school.
>>51712125
Yeah, I can tell you first hand that it sucks.
>Do you have a Nintendo, Anon?
>No. My parents say video games are bad.
>Oh... I was wondering if you played the new Metroid.
Rinse and repeat a few dozen times and then you're "that kid."
>>51712125
chances are if they're my kid, they're gonna be that kid anyway
as soon as they are operating a computer without guidance, which for my own offspring (god forbid) would be fairly early I would imagine.
It'd be prepaid, not have a credit card attached to the store account and fairly locked down, but not giving your child access to instant communication with adults in an emergency is just insanity. Even better, find my phone features can double as find my kidnapped child features - assuming any kidnapper isn't smart enough to take their phone away.
>>51711620
I would say whenever but only if they buy it themselves, like a game console. For computers I would give them a linux desktop, possibly until they are 6 they would use a text based interface and some games I choose, then I would upgrade them to a regular desktop OS.
A tablet as we know it today is a useless toy with nothing but really stupid distractions. At least on console the games can at least be... substantive.
Maybe if they were really into art I would buy them an art tablet but otherwise... no, have a flip phone.
When they are 13 maybe then I wouldn't care.
As soon as I feel they're able to care for something expensive and fragile. Honestly, every kid is different. I've seen kids who throw their shit around like it's a baton, and I've seen others treat their shit like jeweled eggs. I'd tell them about being responsible on the internet and being mindful of their privacy and let them use it.
If it becomes a problem then it becomes a problem. Big whoop.
>>51712231
>Forcing your kids to use Linux
That's completely impractical, both of my younger brothers, one in high school and the other recently graduated, were required to use microsoft office for schoolwork and there were courses centered around it. You're dreaming if you don't think that the first day they start middle school they won't be required to use Windows and Office.
>>51712146
By the time they finish high school they should be more than capable of buying their own phone
Agreed on the dumb phone point, though I'd probably give them one a little earlier than that
>>51711942
2/10 made me reply
Tablet made for three year olds...
>>51711620
16
Too easy to find porn on the internet these days
>>51711717
Sanest answer in here.
>>51711620
Doesn't matter, you can resist until their friends start carrying, then it's either they are the odd ball out and most likely bullied or they blend in with the rest.
Did you forget what it's like to be a kid? Once a fad happens you either follow or weep in the corner alone.
As a side note, I think smartphones are seriously like giving shotguns to bullies in schools, before they dunked your head in the toilet, now they film it too.
>>51712504
What wrong with porn senpai? Get outta here and pls don't reproduce.
Not while he's a child, for sure. I'd give him when he turns 11 or 12. I'll leave him learn be social without a smartphone. Honestly, seeing first-graders with iphones makes me mad.
I'd still give him a tablet or a computer to play with, though. I won't let him be completely illiterate with tech.
>inb4 him
It's gonna be a boy, faggots
at this point it doesn't matter because kids in elementary school are already using the internet at home if not earlier.
>>51712580
Yeah and your child will be the only one without a smartphone, that will surely help him/her socialize.
Want to turn your kid to emo?
>>51712570
>>51712503
Just get your an Nexus 7 and install Nova, leaving just some apps that are not games. Install a terminal app and watch him ask "Daddy, what is that"?
>>51712618
Haha, true. I'm into bondage and urethral insertions now. fug!!! Thank god I'm not into /d/ stuff, at least! Hah!
My 9 year old cousin already has an iphone.
I think it's the 5c.
Needless to say he's pretty popular and his girl friends also have phones... it's 2015 come on, people need phones!
>>51712618
Only 8 seem to apply in reality. But what the fuck do I know.
>>51711670
>giving a 16 year, who hasn't ever had the temptation of a smartphone, a smartphone
>trusting them to not text and drive
>>51712663
I can't even fap to 9/10 women, they're too attractive for me. I prefer homely amateur porn
>>51712618
>ToLoveHonorAndVacuum.com
see you see kay
>>51711633
I'd actually say the year before high school. Give them some time to get to know how to use it maturely before throwing them into a new environment with it.
>>51712264
wine :^)
Also microsoft office classes are usually things you have to specifically pick I thought? All the kids need is some Mavis Beacon anyway.
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>>51712503
fify
>>51712640
>I'm into bondage and urethral insertions now. fug!!!
The younger you start doing something, the better you will be at it when you grow up.
Raising people on technology is a great idea, but shit like tablets and smartphones? You are going to be raising plebs.
>>51712663
https://youtu.be/qBtgA0ZLWo0
>>51712757
Shit like this is why I'm going to install some harsh nanny-ware.
My child isn't going to walk up to me and proclaim he's some foxkin gender tri-fluid nigger faggot.
>>51712773
this
heard the rumor that many of the people that made the ipad wont let their kids use them
When they, without a doubt, require options provided by smartphones that a regular phone can't provide.
For example, they learn how to drive, so they need a GPS.
>>51712618
Porn won't spend my paycheck though.
>>51712793
No need for me to watch that since I believe all the points have a basis in neurology because of dopamine and shit. Not to mention I've seen my parents marriage get dissolved due to my mother having a big fat hate boner for it and my step-father ignoring her whims.
Well, thats as far as addiction goes. But where I stand is that only 8 seems to affect me. I suppose if I actually had a relationship then I'd understand a little better.
14 -16 depending on his attitude and maturity
>>51712757
wait, what's wrong with that? Is it because I said "fug!!"
urethral insertions are perferctly normal, man
>>51711620
I wouldn't. They can save up their own money and buy it if they want. Until then they can have the regular brick phone.
>>51711620
>chevy tattoo
what? is she so supposed to break down in 5 years and be scrapped?
Probably like two or three
>people in this thread actually think they can keep their kids from using smartphones when they themselves use it all the time
>in reality they're the most likely to get their kids to form bad habits
>>51713024
>all the time
I have literally found my cellphone dead with an empty battery because I've forgotten about using it for three straight days
>>51711734
Do you want your kids to grow up with 4chan? Think about what it did to you!
>>51711670
>your brain is permanently fucked up
>>51713131
Hah. The only reason I'm where I am now is that 4chan provided me the information to be a well-rounded and functioning adult that my actual parents aren't able to, and not for lack of trying.
I think that if you introduce 4chan late enough into their development cycle (sometime around 18 years old), that it won't influence them enough to be meme-loving shitbags, but influence them enough that it can have a positive effect on their growth as human beings.
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>>51711620
As soon as he can be trusted with it and only if he wants one. I don't want him to grow up to be that guy who calls tech support.
However, smartphones are not the no 1 choice for baby's first gadget.
I would never damage a child permanently with a fucking pile of shit that is designed to integrate him into the fucking botnet and rape his privacy.
No child of mine will ever have this subversive, pile of shit technology.
>>51711620
Age of 13 or so, a 6630 :^)
I would give my kid jolla but make it dump, when the kid finds a way to compile software and fix the broken configurations I have left on it he is ready for smartphone.
>>51711620
Smartphone? lol fuck no. When they get to high school they'll get a dumb phone brick and use that until they can afford their own smart phone. They dont need the cool "apps" and shit until they can afford it themselves. I didn't get my first smart phone till i was 18 and up until then i had a shitty sony erriccson J230i, thing didnt even have a camera on it.
If i gave them a smart phone while they are in school, it would serve as a huge distraction from their learning.
>>51712240
Fucking this
i cant stand those kids and EVEN adults who fucking break their phones and expect mum and dad or your employer to give you a new one.
Sure if its an accident i'll let you off but next time its on you to fix it or get a new one.
As for employers? Same thing but after 2 phones fuck you, you use your own phone now as you clearly can't be trusted with company property.
>>51712715
>wine
>alright class, open ms word
>wait up mrs teacher, I'm still compiling my kernel / installing dependencies / performing black magic on Wine-specific extensions
If I have a kid, it's going to either be during high school or late middleschool, if they end up making enough friends that it's warranted.
It's sure as hell not going to be a smartphone right away, though. Not until they prove they won't be one of those fucking spoiled brats who drop their phones and break the screen within 6 months, and never even bother getting a case.
5 YEARS OLD
TABLETS ARE TOO BIG FOR THEM TO HOLD
SOMETHING LIKE A GALAXY NOTE 5 TO PLAY ANGRY BIRDS ON
Whenever they can afford it themselves. That way they are also much less likely to break it, since they will know the value of it.
I will give them some dumbphone, though.
>>51711620
s/he'll rock a dumbphone and at 12 I'll give him or her one of my old smartphones
>>51711620
around 12 i guess. it's when i got my first dumb phone.
>>51711620
as soon as my kid goes to school.
Getting info about my kid when I need it, sound like a sound fucking decision.
>>51714494
bullshit, my 4 year old nephew has his own Tablet.
What do I care it's just a phone. They can have one at 5 I'm pretty sure they'd have a tablet before then anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMhMVEjEQg
Never
>>51711717
Giving children access to consumer technology is not a way to make them technologically literale people.
They never think about it, just use it and keep treating it works on some kind of magic.
12 as a certificate of maturity
>>51711670
>millennial
Dude, millenials are over 20 now, which means they had smart phones when they were old enough. It's the gen Z that's fucked.
When they're able to root it and install a custom rom on it on their own.
>>51714791
>12
>mature
Incidentally the frontal lobe isn't fully developed until you're deep into your 20's
By the time I'll have kids, which I don't think I ever will, tablets will probably be mandatory in schools. Tablets and smartphones are essentially the same, so the kid can get a smartphone whenever they'll get a tablet for school.
They're gonna pay for it themselves, though. Learning the value of items and all that.
>>51714814
>implying that will even be possible in the future
>>51714819
If they were mature enough to own one. 12 would be the youngest to prove themselves.
Im 20, my first phone was a blackberry ripoff and while i was disappointed wi th it at first, i eventually came to the realization that i didnt need a phone. I texted friends, but for the most part it was a waste of pocket space.
So i guess theyll get a shit pay per month phone. Thisll teach them frugality where it matters and that phones are worthless beyond contact with friends, who needs fucking games or whatever?
>>51714775
Good point, anon.
I'll just give them Cisco routers and 150kg USPs, you fucking memespouting retard.
>>51714829
>>implying that will even be possible in the future
>Not buying second hand old phones
When she can buy her own
I think having a phone is so essential nowadays that people are practically cramming them inside the vagina of a pregnant woman.
Or maybe they do it for some other reason...
>>51711711
Shit, I had one of those
>>51711620
What the fuck am I looking at here? Does she have a flesh-shaped plastic chevy cummerbund sitting on her hips? And why are her shorts all scrunched up like that?
>>51716250
what a qt :3 does she have a name?
>>51716356
>she
>>51711620
Well, I gave a tablet to my nephew because he usually gets bored and his mother is a bitch.
>>51716480
I doubt, looks like a proper she
>>51711670
Nigger what? I didn't get a smartphone till I was 17 and the flipphone I had was basically emergency use only since it ran off of minutes.
>>51711800
>got their start in computer knowledge from sneaking crap past nannyware
Sort of, then my parents found one that you really couldn't get around. If you tried to shut it off in task manager it would just completely lock out the internet. Then six years later, I found out this optimization thing for games that shut down a bunch of processes would fuck with it. So it would turn back on when you were done but the filter would be deactivated for a while.
I didn't see it so I'll say it.
You faggots constantly wine about people tracking you.
Son/daughter is getting a tracking app so I can find their dead body and/or they have an emergency device.
It isn't like my company cell phone isn't a giant leash, why shouldn't I be teaching my offspring some of that.
My wife's son is constantly on his ipad playing some vapid shit and it drives me nuts. He's only 5.
>>51711620
30.
>>51711683
Total, utter bullshit. Every single word.
>>51711620
14 at least. That's the age I myself started using a smartphone, and I'd give them a cheap, shitty one so they learn how to place less value in such frivolous luxuries
Hell I'd teach them to shoot a gun and hunt earlier than teach them to use a smartphone
>>51711620
whenever that kid is able to buy it with their own money.
>>51711620
It would be the same age that they would get a computer or television, never.
>>51711620
16, probably
I'd give them a phone before that, but it'd be some flip phone garbage
My kid is 5 and owns his own iPhone 5. Ask me anything
>>51717506
I'm not him but I'm finnish. When I was in 6th grade people started having mobile phones suddenly. Year or two later and everyone had them. My little brother had one way younger than me since that's when the fad started. Then years later my little sister had one when she started school at 7 years old. People here do get one for their kids now when kids start school. Current mobile phones can be cheap as hell and they are a practical way of reaching someone without having to wait for them to come home first.
Education here is decent and it has been rank 1 at some point, but I think there are countries who have surpassed it. I know this because it was in the news when it happened, people were pretty proud of it.
I'm 29 if you were wondering.
>>51714529
When they can afford 50 buck a month?
It's a question of how much parents will pay to track their children in helicopter mode no?
>>51717682
Has he told you that he's gay?
>>51711942
You can't be a milennial and be of age, MODS!
>>51711800
Give him a computer without and is and one he's only allowed to use to create a kernel and watch him learn.
Whenever they could articulate why they needed one.
>>51711620
12
Maybe 8 for tablets but I'll slap on some parental controls first
Why is everyone blabbing about parental controls? A child doesn't usually have that kind of mentality and if he does, he's already fucked
When they are 9/10 I'll give them a dumb phone so I can keep in touch if something happens. By the time they are in 14/15 I will give them an actual smart phone.
>>51718099
What if they type in something innocent like "Pokémon butts"?
>>51711620
Probably 13... or when they demonstrated that they wouldn't use it for facebook.
Because no f*cking kid of mine would ever have a facebook while living in my house.
'But dad, all the other girls have one...'
'Yes, and all the other girls are whores, and are sending nude pictures to 3 guys right now at the age of 10. You wanna be paid attention to when you have nothing of value to say? Become a politician when you grow up.'
The sad thing is, the school counselor would probably end up calling me and being like, "Do you want your daughter to grow up anti-social? Why are you abusing her by denying her access to facebook?"
Because at that point, facebook will be seen as something everyone 'should' have. Fuck now I'm just mad... I don't like this world.
>>51718179
>implying facebook is going to last another 5 years.
>>51718179
>Because at that point, facebook will be seen as something everyone 'should' have.
That was five years ago m8. Today Facebook is passé and kids use it about as much as you use MySpace.
>>51717846
You're a retard
>>51717846
Oh look, a millennial who doesn't know what a millennial is.
>>51718214
What's the new thing? Twitter?
>>51711800
This shit is true though. I mean, really. I learned so much as a kid about networking and how computers worked just so I could get around content filters and stuff.
My parents never bothered though, too computer illiterate and just in general didn't pay attention to stuff like that.
Well, here I am, tinfoil hat /g/entleman.
Everyone should be free to access computer and communications technology at a young age, but have to get around the restrictions themselves. It'll make them a better person, or at least smarter.
Or they'll just accept it and sneak around it via other people's shit, and become one of the people who has to pay to get the spyware shit off their computer every week because they can't even determine the difference between a shitty scam site and a legit one.
>>51712649
No, they don't need an iPhone.
They need a phone, sure. But not an iPhone.
They can have a nice, full featured flip phone with a pop3 email client, until they're like 12 or 13, and have learned not to beat up shit I give them.
They'll never have an iPhone that I pay for. lol iPhones.
>having kids
Hey fuck you OP, how am I supposed to have kids with a 2D Chinese cartoon 11 year old? Thanks for reminding me of something I'll never have.
>>51718366
13
i got mine freshman year in highschool. iphone 4s. just graduated highschool and although i dont use the phone, i still have it and it works fine.
Get the kid a $10 wal-mart phone. It will turn him off smartphones for life.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/12/a-review-of-the-10-walmart-phone-better-than-nothing-but-not-by-much/
>>51711620
I plan to teach my future kids on how the modern technology works and how they can take advantage of it effectively. If i see them being proficient with what they want to use(eg. not just mindlessly facebooking/texting their retarded friends with a smartphone, but understanding how it works, what do the components inside do, how apps work, how can they make their lifes easier with having a smartphone - bus schedules, school stuff, navigation, generally using the SMART in smartphone) i have no problem in them having a smartphone at 12. I guess i wouldn't go earlier than 10 though, i think kids should be kids, at least for some time.
I can't understand the shitheads that give a 4(!) year old or even younger a tablet. If you can't stimulate the kid enough without giving him a device to handle himself, you shouldn't have had a kid in the first place. I just recently fixed a tablet for a 4 year old of one of my acquaintances, i don't understand why such a little kid should have a tablet. Buy him a fucking book and teach him to read or paint or whatever or go play catch, i don't give a shit. Kids today don't understand 90% of what is happenning in their pockets.
I guess i am the last one to bitch about this, i got my first computer at the age of 6, but i never had anyone to ask for help with shit i didn't understand, so i had to handle it myself. I started reading magazines about computers and taught myself how to fix issues with the computer, what is actually inside of that magic PC box and how does it work, because it was magical for me back then(it still is, i chose IT as my career path). I want my kids to have at least this kind of knowledge before i let them near any fucking smart device.
>>51714803
>Millenials are over 20 now
I thought millenial was born in the 00's
Please don't lump me with those fuckers, I was born in 91. March of 91 no less.
>>51714007
my mother in law keeps breaking her phone, so after I had the screen replaced on my wife's old S4 we gave it to her. 6 months later she has cracked the screen, as punishment she now gets a modded LG Optimus in a thick case.
no quad core for you
>>51715098
that is the complete opposite end of the spectrum
Cisco is shit
>>51718896
Uh, I agree early 80's is stretching it, but 90's babies definitely are millenials.
I'd probably give them one at a young age (around 8 maybe). The caveat being it is going to be a cheap POS that's really locked down - so no games. The only thing it will be used for is communication. They can get their own smartphone without restrictions when they're 16 and are able to pay for it themselves.
In the highly unlikely event I'll have kids, a couple months before high school.
I didn't get my first smartphone until sophomore year of high school.
Now I would give them free reign over the internet, but give them advice and guidelines on what to visit and what not to visit.
Anyways kids are dumb and the population is getting out of control so I don't think I'll have kids.
I got mine around 13. That's when kids start going out on their own, (park, basketball courts, etc) its good for them to have an emergency line in case they need it. Any younger and its worthless since your kid shouldn't be left alone.
>>51711620
Middle school, when they would start hanging out after school/going out more.
>>51718981
>13. That's when kids start going out on their own
Not everyone lives in Camden, anon.
>>51711620
I think the question is not when to give a child a phone, but when to give him a new phone. Because abstaining a child from the things he wants doesn't really help, on the contrary, it makes the desirable object more desirable.
So imho a child can be given a phone as soon as he asks for it, but until the child learns to value its posessions, restrict the phone range that he receives to old used phones, preferably used by you. You need to educate the child on the etiquette and security implications of using a phone as well as how to treat it and maintain it. Only when the child learns to do all these things, he can be trusted with a new phone, which of course he must earn through scholarly achievements.
>>51718230
Technically people born after 1995 are vastly different then before 1990 so it's retarded to chuck them in 1 catagory.
>>51712679
Same here
Professional porn is disgusting
When they can pay for one.
Smartphone with clover preinstalled at age 14, he'll be a proficient shitposter by the age of 19 and a loser with no sex life by age 20.
Like father, like son.
>>51711800
This isn't true. Before Facebook there was MySpace and before that there was chat rooms. Internet was always segmented into casual and nerd. AOL was the apple is the time.
>>51716356
Lena Meyer-Landrut
i would give my kid a basic flip phone just so they can contact me in case of emergencies. then when they are 12 ill give them a smartphone. the next phone they want, they'll have to pay for themselves.
>>51711670
Feels good man. The "permanently fucked" brain you mention has helped me in so many ways beyond your stunted mind born out of lack of access to knowledge as a kid.
>>51719950
She's adorable ^^ Thank you
>>51711620
Why a kid would need a smartphone?
Smartphone are used to connect people, a kid must always be with it's parents and in school he can call using the school phone, so there's no kid that needs a smartphone if the parents are good one
>>51719069
When he hits puberty so he can watch porn.
>>51712125
Honestly, I kinda think that's an excuse. I'm 18 currently and don't have (and never have had) a phone as well as a job. I've got loads of friends though who are willing to do shit with me. You just gotta be a fun person and you won't be out of touch.
>>51720506
>AIDS tattoo
>adorable
pick one
>>51721209
It doesn't bother me..
>>51711620
When it's still a sperm in my ballbag.
>>51721131
wtf anon, i had a job when i was 17 and started driving when i was 15.
get off your lazy ass.
>>51720286
You can't even put together a coherent sentence, you fucking retard.
>>51711711
This. Maybe a dumbphone at some point, but if they want data they're gonna pay for it.
8th grade
That's when I got my first cell phone
>>51717506
Kek
I'd give him some rugged waterproof dumbphone as soon he starts going out to play by himself, but a smartphone to before school
>>51711620
I wouldn't even give a smartphone to an adult.
>>51711620
My sister bought her 2 years old a Galaxy S6 because she got the second one for 50% off.
>>51711620
16-18, I had a phone when I was 13 and never used it, I only just got a mobile phone when I turned 19, i'm 21 now and hardly use the thing.
>>51711620
When they learn to be fully proficient in using UNIX commands, and know how to compile gentoo, they can finally get a smartphone to go along with their thinkpad t61.
>>51712618
>The Dr. Oz Show
seems legit
>>51724518
hasnt this dude been proven false on multiple occasions already? arent his suggestions and practices false?
>>51718896
The most common definition of milennial is someone who has been an adolescent during the turn of the century. 2000 kids only barely apply, solely because of all the baggage that 1999 had carried over, but if they were born post 200' it's almost impossible to group them with milennials because they were fucking 6 when social media took off.
Give them a dumb phone so they can learn t9 typing and can call me/text me to pick them up after school. They can either save up for their first smartphone or wait until they reach middle school, whichever comes first.
>never restrict access to computers unless they start flagging parental filters i've already prescreenes.
Never. Buy your fucking own you little gobshite.
I just don't know.
I was eight when I was given a phone (obviously not a smartphone) on a contract plan and somehow there never was a single issue with me causing financial trouble but then again, my ten year old sister has a prepaid and she regularly spends all her money on sending emoticons via sms
>"do you have this emoji, anon?"
I'd say it depends on the person
>>51716356
>>51720506
christ, what is wrong with you people
>>51712618
>started being exposed to shemales because of this site
>get to a point where it doesn't really bother me anymore
>eventually start to find a few of them attractive
>start jerking it to the attractive ones
>started going into cuteboi threads
>turned on by the sight of well groomed boypucci now
>started jerking to twinks being fucked
I'm not even kidding. This isn't some >le 4chan turns you gay. This site is actually making me gay.
>>51711670
Yeah, give them a way to text along with the car. What's the worst that could happen?
>>51726096
>using the word boipucci
you were a faggot way before you were on 4chan, you fag.
>>51717694
You're a fag
But a cool fag like freddy mercury
>>51711620
I say until they can afford to buy it themselves.
As soon as they're old enough to use it. Sometime between 2-3, but I wouldn't let them take it to school or anything for a few more years.
If you make your kids wait until they're 18 to have a phone you're an awful fucking parent.
Whenever they need a phone after they can handle a regular flip phone.
>>51716356
probably
>>51711620
My 1 year old has one
Old enough to ask in a firm and well thought out manner, old enough to own a smart phone.
The great thing about being 18-21 at this moment in time is that we can see how having a smartphone at an early age say 6 could possibly affect how they turn out as adults. This way we can gauge how harmful a smartphone may be to our own children's development and decide what age to give them their own smartphone by the time we turn 28-30, the perfect age to have kids.
For now my stance is to give them one when they're like 13. I think many people underestimate just how wise kids can be by this age, if they've been raised right.
>>51711670
> blaming the millennial generation
> raised the millennial generation
Keep it classy gen x.
>>51711714
Could just monitor, instead of restrict.
You know like the government does?
>>51712606
> emo
> 2015
Calm your tits gen y.
>>51713072
> implying everyone doesn't have friends
Around 11, when he enters the collège. (1st secondary)
>>51714703
That acting is trash.
When they start high school, a pager will do before that.
>>51732311
>hipster 2016
>be 24
>grew up without internet and game consoles
>had a dumbphone since my first phone at 17
>all my friends remember life before the internet
>get called a millenial because some of them use facebook now
I remember when millenials were millenials.
The same way i got my first phone when i entered first grade, because of convinience, i think first grades should learn how to use comms only phones, now, about a smartphone i think the best age is 13, i know neither of us had a smartphone at that age but these kids were born on a diferent era guys
>>51711620
This Bitch needs exercise and food. There's no good reason for her to be so damned skinny fat and have a muffin top. Fucking disgusting.
I had a nokia 3310 when I was about 8-9.
Parrents gave me their old one while they got themselfs a sony ericson.
It came in handy, as I could get my parrents on the phone while if I wanted to go to a friend. Or wanted them to pick me up.
Parrents were always at a fair distance and home was too far to bike or walk. (We don't have school busses here in Holland)
Surprisingly I fell for the "crazy frog rintone just sms ON to 4444" meme on tv that constantly costed me 2 Gulden every sms they spammed me. Good thing I had prepaid.
So, as for when I would give my kid a phone?
I think I would first give him 10 euro phones untill he wouldn't lose them and show that he's responsible with a device.
It really depends on how the kid reacts upon tech.
Hah, thinking how I would treat my offspring with computers and general tech is a bit odd.
Not restricting their internet by any means, but adding atleast a good anti virus/malware to the computer, I know I fucked up a few times in my youth.
Generally learning them how to use tools I had to figure out on my own.
I would also gift them a foldable knife/multitool when they are responable enough for that. and push onto them it's only to be used as a tool.
Hell, I'm dreaming the day I could take them to the shooting range and show them the basics.
You learn from mistakes, and just removing these things from their life isn't working, even dangerous should they pick it up, rebel because daddy won't allow it. Instead you should learn them to be responsible with it.
Man, I wish my dad would've learned me the basics of given tools. Could've saved me alot of mistakes and cuts.
I wouldn't actually be that worried about them seeing 'inappropriate content'. I saw goatse on a BBS when I was 8, so I think people expect kids to thinner skinned than they are, and by sheltering them they become the easily offended fuckwads running around universities today. I doubt my hypothetical partner in this scenario would agree though.
I would be more concerned about Apple and Apple-esque 'closed black box' products making them technologically illiterate.
>>51712231
Do you want your kids to have autism?
>>51734787
Not that guy, but I'd rather my kids were smart and independent rather than dumb passive consumers, yeah. If you call that autism that's your problem.
I have a daughter. So, probably around middle school.
Gotta get that lawsuit money from people that spread her underage nudes.
I didn't get my first phone until I was 15 or so.
I can see how it could be useful a few years earlier than that, so probably 12-13 or so.
I'd rather give them a dumbphone first through. Smartphones are way too distracting.
>>51734879
kek
>>51714074
What sort of school doesn't have a computer lab? What sort of school requires students to bring in personal laptops with personal copies of $150 software?
Also, maybe YOU'RE too retarded to use a VM or Wine, but not everyone is. Setting up MS Office on a Linux box is only slightly harder than setting it up on a Windows box.
>>51711711
>>51721348
Best answers
>>51711683
No they don't. Except their parents probably got them one years before that. Gotta have that swag so you don't get bullied.
>>51734964
This.
I'd give them a simple phone while they're preteens and let them earn better ones if they want it.
>>51711620
I didn't get one until I was 20. I'm still 20. I only got it for university so that I could check my email on the go, use it as a GPS, and quickly looks things up. I don't touch it otherwise unless I'm texting or calling someone, obviously.
>>51734106
Being a 3rd worlder doesn't have anything to do with your age.
>>51711670
I'm fucked up but I never feel gay, how do you get this gay?
Not sure, but pretty early I guess? Maybe a dumbphone when they start school, then a low-end smartphone once they're a bit older + want one? Then, again, a better one once they're a bit older + want one + have proven to be responsible enough.
No reason to not give a dumbphone at whatever age, its just convenient that they can always contact me/their mom if there's a problem somewhere or something. I still remember breaking my arm as a 10 yo while biking and not having a phone on me, that sucked.
I'm not too much against smartphones, playing games and whatnot on them is pretty much the same thing that I did as a kid with a gameboy.
Granted I don't personally respect the games as much, but hey, the social interaction with other kids who play the same games is pretty important, so I can't exactly force my kids to play pokemon red and super mario if they don't want to.
I'd be more strict with social media, though, I guess they'd have to be well into their teens for me to comfortably let them use it, and even then, I'd be a pretty annoying lecturer on the dangers of it
MAYBE I could allow them an instant messaging-like app earlier if their friends are using it a lot.
>>51738183
And to continue why I'd be potentially pretty permissive:
I don't really believe in (somewhat average parents) having that big an effect on their kids. after reading some psychology studies on the subject. The overall environment (friends, school, hobbies, their socio-economic "class", society in general) will affect them more at the end of the day.
Every kid is also different right from he moment of their birth, so they'll react differently to the same methods of bringing them up. So the best you can try to do is look at how they react to whatever and then improvise from that.
So, of course, if the kid got too addicted to the games I'd let them play on the smartphone, I'd restrict it. If they were really responsible and trustworthy in general, I'd let them do things the way they want to. Etc.
The same goes for everything, for example, money. If they were always pretty responsible with it after some lessons, I'd give them money rather than buying them things, etc. If they weren't, they'd need to learn some responsibility before I'd give them freedom on that, so I'd rather buy things for them.
I got my first cellphone as a senior in high school, 2012. it was a flip phone LG Octane. I had that until I got my 950 last week.
I would get my children a generic, pay as you go dumb phone they can take with them to extracurricular activities, but it would not belong to them. General extra phone to give to the kids to take around when they need it. Would pay for a midrange phone for them, or they can pay the remainder for a flagship.
>>51711620
Give them a dumb phone for middle school and all of high school. I'll give it to them afterwards. If they want it earlier, they'll have to pay for it themselves.
>>51718896
They categorize by the time one "comes of age", not when they were born. Too bad for you.
>>51711670
TbH I didn't get my smartphone until I had 22.
5 years old
>10
Give them a brick and make them pay for all the credit used, that way they will only use it to call you when they need to
>14
Real-ish phone, still have to pay for the credit or if they're lucky contract a month, unless they saved up a few good boy points
>>51711620
18, maybe. Certainly not sooner.
Freshman year of high school
>>51721343
REKT HIM
>>51726096
been here for 7 years and this is sadly true
>>51740621
i'd hate to be your kid, they're gonna hate you and go no contact with you
I'd give a kid a smartphone when they reach high school. I'd also monitor the shit out of it
When they're old enough to handle it with care, probably 10 or so.
>>51712618
Check mate, atheists. I don't have a marriage or sex life.
I had a dumbphone when I was 13 and then a smartphone at 16.
I turned out pretty good desu.
>>51720286
>writes shitty fucking sentence.
>ur dumb xd
Holy shit, at least try.
