Where do I even go from here
install Gentoo
>>51704883
can't get to the boot menu
Take screenshots and make some dank vaporwave art
start by replacing your graphics card
>>51705137
>>51705116
Laptop, but aside from that the graphics card is fine, when it's actually working there are no issues and the temp isn't remotely high. there is a weird thing where if I push down on the case where the card is located it will freak out visually and just turn off.
BGA Refloat
>>51705237
>Laptop, but aside from that the graphics card is fine, when it's actually working there are no issues and the temp isn't remotely high. there is a weird thing where if I push down on the case where the card is located it will freak out visually and just turn off.
"It can't be the graphics card, sometimes it works!"
>>51705279
Yeah I know how it sounds. It doesn't always crash like this though sometimes it's normal and others it's just a shutdown and extra cooling of the graphics card hasn't prevented any crashes so I'm not convinced it's as simple as just the graphics card.
>>51704871
stop running windows you massive piece of shit
>>51704962
youre a moron
to there
>>51705237
>when it's actually working there are no issues
cool story bro
>>51705433
>>51705377
>>51704871
If your graphics card is fucked, bake that shit up m8 desu
bake and sell
>>51705453
no you don't understand, the boot menu crashes before I can use it
call microsoft
>>51705377
>graphics card
>laptop
on a scale of dumb to retarded, where would you rate yourself?
>>51705094
this
>>51705556
I'm pretty moronic honestly. are graphics cards and GPUs not the same thing?
>>51705614
>are graphics cards and GPUs not the same thing?
correct; graphics cards and GPUs are not the same thing
>>51705614
Is it the Intel shit onboard graphics, or an Nvidia or AMD GPU?
>>51705651
I see, I don't think I have a graphics card then, what do they look like?
>>51705734
Nvidia, I replaced the thermal paste and adjusted the settings on the GPU so it was as cool as possible but it didn't help.
>>51705789
they have GPUs on them, and are removable. Some laptops have them, 99.9% do not
>>51705825
>I replaced the thermal paste
if you did this poorly you can make things worse
> adjusted the settings on the GPU so it was as cool as possible
what temps are you getting, on both your CPU and GPU?
Where do we go from here, now that all of the children are growin up, and how will we spend our lives, now that there's no one to lend us a hand
>>51705850
I probably did a mediocre job. CPU is usually 30-40C, GPU is usually 20-30C
>>51705940
what thermal paste did you use?
>>51705959
Arctic Silver, I've got plenty left.
Replacing the main board is the only solution
>>51705992
>Arctic Silver
thats electrically conductive and if you shorted out any of the tiny resistors on the GPU it would cause horrible things to happen
>>51706047
from where can I order boards
>>51706081
try ebay
>>51706078
I was worried about that, are you sure though they made a point of saying it wasn't electrically conductive. I don't think there are any shorts though, I replaced it months ago and there hasn't been any difference from before I replaced it.
>>51706155
>they made a point of saying it wasn't electrically conductive
you sure you didnt mis-read?
can you enter your BIOS?
>>51706297
Yes but sometimes it crashes in BIOS. Currently though it doesn't start when I turn it on, it just sits there.
error says PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA
>>51706335
what model laptop is it?
>>51705825
Temperatures are not indicative od problems with hardware. Things like bluescreens and video corruption are.
You are getting both, your temps may be fine but your graphics chip is fucking fucked.
How old is your laptop? Did you get it new?
>>51706373
I get that one, system service exception, and IRLQ not less or equal.
>>51706377
>>51706395
Thinkpad W530 I got new just under 3 years ago. This has been happening on and off for about 4 months now.
>>51706449
I'm going for liquid water damage. Should have worn a condom.
>>51706499
I did spill a lot of hot tea on the keyboard 6 months in. Haven't had problems until now though. This did start happening after I took a trip somewhere humid though so that could have hydrated some residue buried somewhere. Do I have any options?
>>51706526
motherboard replacement
theyre $300+ OBO on eBay. Maybe you can get an offer of $200 accepted, maybe even less
>>51706526
There is a potential that the chip itself is fine but corrosion on the board is causing it.
Toss the mainboard in an ultrasonic cleaner, not a jewelery cleaner though.
Or send it to Louis Rossman.
Or >>51706555
>>51706555
how standard are motherboards, will i have to search hard to find one that works for me or will it be relatively simple
>>51706597
>ultrasonic cleaner, not a jewelery cleaner though.
what about a laboratory sonicator?
>>51706663
I don't know, compare it to the specs of proper cleaners.
Jewelery cleaners are too rough and can tears caps off the board.
>>51706691
so I'm trying to get just shit that's builtup off my motherboard, would soaking it in a polar, aprotic solvent also be helpful?
>>51705457
In all these panels I thought at first that nose of him is actually a dumbly smiling mouth.
Can't unsee it now.
>>51706634
any W530 board should work
>>51709501
well yeah obviously but is the w530 board special to the w530 or does lenovo use the same boards in some of their laptops
>>51709659
as a general rule, boards are specific to the model; there are exceptions though
>>51709834
christ
>>51709659
W530 owner since 2012 here
You could probably get away with installing a T530 board. The bezel is made to match the W and T series.
Having said that, I don't think you would enjoy a T series masquerading as a W series and you would probably miss having a real GPU, not to mention having to potentially reinstall your OS since the entire hardware configuration would have changed.
>>51709992
>probably miss having a real GPU
Nvidia GPUs in laptops are horrible
In a laptop, I personally prefer not to have a dedicated GPU
>>51709992
I may try some other stuff first. I can get it to briefly work by forcibly drying it with a vacuum or fan beforehand. I'm gonna experiment with ways of cleaning shit off of the inside before I go to replacing it.
>>51710038
Nah. Optimus is fine. Ran fine on every Windows since 7', since 2012. Ran fine on Fedora Linux with Bumblebee installed.
They're OK.
I have the Quadro K2000M.
The most I could complain about is selectively activating the GPU for applications in Linux being a pain in the ass.
But that's a software issue.
techfag here.
It's either video card or RAM. Try exchanging each.
>>51711310
I actually like took out the RAM yesterday and sort of clean it out with a fan and I think it got worse when I put it back in
>>51704871
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SezoGW_z9w0
>>51711377
cleaned it with a fan O_o? Well that's strange. Hopefully you didn't damage anything. But if you can, try to see if you have the same issue with only 1 stick of RAM in the laptop. Try to narrow it down to which stick of RAM may be faulty.
Also, there's sometimes additional ram under the keyboard.
Not sure of your laptop model, just saying it's possible.
>>51704962
Flash your bios
>>51711424
I didn't have any duster and it was pretty late and
I was pissed about other stuff and angrily taking apart my computer. I'll post results in a sec
>>51711424
there are RAM sticks under the keybaord by the way this will take forever. A fan and some tweezers because there was like particulate things everywhere. I got past the login screen so I'm sure everything is fine other than the thing that was originally not working
>>51705596
Seconded this
>>51705279
It's the GPU bro, I had the same shit happen with my old Dell laptop with NVIDIA GPU, get the mobo changed, it won't last any more than a few weeks now
>>51711424
I took 2 of the ram sticks out and it started up
>>51712283
and put them back in and it didn't work anymore.
>>51712452
lmao
>>51704871
you can only go up, anon
Kick it until it works again
>>51712452
I swapped the positions of the two I took out and it worked with all 4 of them in again. going to see how long this lasts
>>51713578
not long. going to try stressing it out without those two now
>>51711424
>Also, there's sometimes additional ram under the keyboard
>mfw I checked
>mfw you are a filthy liar
>>51713660
>>51713660
Reballing is NOT repair!
When it comes to BGA graphics chips with a flip chip design, to reball is IDIOCY - the chip itself is dead on the inside. Heating it up causes it to work again for a temporary period of time before it eventually dies again. You can prove that the problem is not in the balls very simply by heating your chip up to 120c for ten minutes, you will see that it often works again for a short period. 120c cannot melt solder, which is proof that the issue is in the bumps of the chip, NOT the solder balls.
This is a SILLY MYTH perpetrated by people who WANT IT TO BE TRUE because believing in the myth makes their life easier, but it is a myth nonetheless.
>>51713653
Lol well I only said it was possible :3
>>51712283
Nice ;)
>>51713740
no problems so far with just the 2
thanks man you're apparently the only person on /g/ who can give more than like an entry level suggestion
New GPU and a reinstall?
