Do cheap SSDs worthy?
I was wondering if those inexpensive drives are shit or if they could be a good option for a budget.
>>51692086
Cheap SSDs are shit and will only last you a couple years at best before they start deteriorating. Buy the samshills, they're genuine quality.
>>51692086
Nope, they're trash. Stick with Samsung, Crucial, or Intel if you want to support the Jew.
>>51692086
It depends on a lot of stuff. MLC or modern TLC based drives should mostly be fine, even the slower ones, if coming from an HDD. Past that a lot of it is likely to be luck - I've read that some of the Patriot SSDs for instance just flat out fail within a few hours.
Sandisk for cheap drive. Go Samsung or Intel for the more expensive ones.
>>51692103
As he said, it'll be a temp year or two drive.
>>51692111
This, stick with those three brands (in that order too) and you can't really go wrong.
>>51692086
Kingston pulled a bait and switch by sending SSDs with good controllers to reviewers and then switching to garbage cheap controllers for mass production.
And then they tried to hide this fact by grinding off the serial numbers.
Stick with sandisk if you want cheap SSD.
Just be aware that at these price ranges, a much better brand can be had for only $10 more.
>>51692111
>>51692086
Samsung EVO 850 master race here
>>51692227
>EVO 850
T L C C R A P W A R E
It doesn't make sense to ask which brand is reliable on this board because everyone is going to write down the brand of the ssd he bought
>>51692147
>>51692207
So SanDisk in not that bad, but only one or two years? Really that bad?
>>51692483
I was about to buy a Sandisk SSD plus, doesn't look bad at all. Is an Ultra 2 better? I don't need power loss protection, it's a laptop...
So many good goy in this thread. Youll only see the difference between a regular and great ssd in business performance applications or raw renders
>>51692619
No, cheap SSDs are about the same speed as HDDs
>>51692619
Or in lifespan.
Or in lifespan?
I've been using a super cheap silicon power 32gb ssd for the last 6 months
It's not particularly fast as you see high end ssd reviews claim. But it still has a noticeable difference between HDD when booting.
I only bought it because my older hdd died and I didn't want to use a green hdd to run my os on.
So I got the cheapest ssd I could find.
>>51692657
my rock bottom cheap SSD gets 180mb/s read, 150mb/s write and 25mb/s random r/w
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_ttl?_encoding=UTF8&colid=34O6PUD5K4ANR&coliid=I1UJ3N3MVRS7JC&psc=1
This good?
>>51692796
It's $71 on newegg after a promo code. Just got one myself, plus there's no tax on newegg for me.
I have the Sandisk Ultra II. It's really good. But I would recommend the Samsung EVO 850 because it has better performance for a little more money.
>>51692883
850 EVO here, I don't think I would call that really good.
>>51692844
if someone else says its good i might buy it then
>>51692883
>>51692925
Holy shit, look at that 4k..
>>51692844
What's the promo code?
>>51692962
EMCKNAR48
>>51692944
Yes, Samsung it THE brand, go on.
>>51692751
That's slower than a hard drive
I bought a V300
I've been using for about 2 years now... I'm not sure I think I'm getting close to 2 years.
Not very happy with it.
>>51693074
I hope you didn't pay very much for it.
>>51693119
it was dirt cheap
>>51693074
My HDD has better write speeds than that. At least your read is good.
>>51693074
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-1875091/hyperx-underperforming.html
found this
>Hello Marton,
I'm Jewel with Kingston Technical Support and would like to offer our assistance. Crystal Disk Mark uses incompressible data which will not show results similar to our advertised speeds as we test with ATTO Benchmark which uses compressible data. The type of data used shows a marked difference in speeds. Please test with ATTO and see if you are getting proper results. The most accurate result would be to average the last three results in the test. It is available directly from the maker and only requires
>>51692227
>not 850 Pro
>>51693119
Not xe but frustrated I picked up a 960GB Ultra II on Black Friday then the 1TB 850 Evo went on offer for not much more (about +£30/~23-24% for improved speed assuming the Ultra II was a 1TB drive).
Oh well, just keeping games on it anyway.
>Enabled RAPID mode
>Benchmark breaks
ok Samsung
>>51693141
What kind of fucking hard drive do you have?
I'm getting this with a WD Black that I bought a year ago. I need to defrag tho.
>>51693205
http://www.amazon.com/Blue-Desktop-Hard-Disk-Drive/dp/B0088PUEPK
I've had it for about 5 years. Might have defragged it 2 or 3 times.
>>51693232
I paid premium price for Black and you're doing better than me with a blue. are you fucking kidding me 867/932gb full
god fucking dammit.
i just checked mine is 32% fragmented tho.
I just picked up a cheap 120GB. Would that be enough to dual boot Windows 10 and say Linux Mint? All my data would be on my 2TB HDD.
>>51692207
Kingston seemed like a decent lot though
What about the zotac one? Anyone got their hands on it, I'm thinking about buying one since they're pretty cheap.
>>51693288
AFAIK, they are the same as V300s
>>51693074
>>51693141
>>51693195
>>51692925
>>51692883
someone really made a serious program using comic sans in its interface?
What about the budget line of Sandisk, the SSD plus? I just want it for my laptop, make it snappy for just viewing files. No video editing or games.
I put my pictures in a SSD and it still takes a few seconds for the thumbnails to load. Is that normal? I thought it was suppose to load instantly.
>>51693329
there's an anime version of it it's like 9mb more. check it out.
>>51693261
If you give Windows 80GB and Mint 40GB, should be fine
>>51693355
if you have 100 pictures in 4k it's probably gonna take a few seconds to load them.
>>51693331
Low resolution pictures I saved from instagram take a few seconds to load too. Same with music and videos.
The only difference I notice with my SSD is that the OS loads quicker and I can run any program right away. It sucks that thumbnails don't load right away.
Is a ramdisk useful?
>>51692982
No, an HDD will struggle to get more than 150MB read/80MB write at 7200RPM
>>51693408
Sure, but you might want to get at least 32GB RAM to get it to a useful size.
>>51693404
Guess the rest of specs besides seq read/write suck. Guess that's what you get for $45.
I'll just get an EVO for $60.
>>51693423
>struggle to get more than 80MB write at 7200RPM
I think my Seagate missed the memo, anon.
Should I tell it ?
>>51693566
>forgot pic
>>51693584
That's sequential dude, day to day operations are slow on a HDD.
>>51693609
He didn't specify dude, plenty of harddrives get over 80MB/s sequential writes.
Samsung 850 EVO SSD 1 TB 2,5" SATA3 -SSD
340 euros.
Is it good?
>>51692086
>almost 25k power on hours
>almost 19TB of writes
it's certainly better than an HDD, but you can get much better SSDs for only slightly more money (like $25)
>>51693714
That's pretty expensive, where do you live ?
Here in Denmark the 1TB version is 306 EUR.
>>51693754
Finland.
>>51693767
Oh. I don't know any Finnish shops, but does Komplett ship to Finland ? It's a bit cheaper there.
https://www.komplett.se/product/828771/datorutrustning/hrddisk/ssd-25/samsung-850-evo-1tb-ssd#
To answer your question though, yes it's a good SSD. 850 EVO is the SATA SSD to get, anything better - like the 850 PRO - is only a tiny difference in performance for a significantly bigger price tag.
>>51693714
murrica
I got a Samsung 850 1TB mSATA SSD for $300 dollary-doos.
Personally I think you're getting ripped and you should lobby your politicians into getting into more free trade deals with us.
think i paid $85 for this like 2+ years ago.
>>51692111
Sandisk is also decent. But that rounds out the SSD manufacturers who make their own flash.
depends what you're doing with it -- you get what you pay for
I have a kingston like OPs inside an older macbook pro for my girlfriend. it sped it up enough that she didn't want a new one. battery life is also improved.
then I fixed her ancient black macbook with a chinese-made "kingspec" drive and installed linux on it. super fast and running great again.
both are going strong a few months later. cost less than $100 total.
great for occasional use on an ancient laptop.
but if I was depending on these for a real computer, I would only use them if (1) I had good backups on a raid array / cloud storage or (2) I had at least 2 name-brand SSDs in a raid array mirror or something. BACK UP YOUR SHIT.
/nonshillresponse
>>51693922
>needing backups of a system drive in a client machine
I understand for servers, but I've always kept data on a secondary drive in case i want to reinstall for some reason
>>51693946
right, that's what I'm saying -- don't use SSDs for something you can't easily replace.
in the case of a laptop, you need to backup your shit unless you have room for 2 HDDs and one is a standard HDD for your data.
>>51693969
>laptops
oh, duh.
>>51692086
I have an 120GB OCZ Vertex III (I think, maybe II?) that I used as a primary in my desktop, then moved it to my laptop when I "upgraded" to a 250GB Samsung 840 EVO.
Six months later, the Samsung was a horrendously slow piece of shit. The OCZ Vertex is still blazing along like new.
I replaced the shit Samsung with a SanDisk Extreme Pro 480GB and now use the Samsung as a scratch drive for torrents.
>>51693969
>don't use SSDs for something you can't easily replace.
Uh. Current SSDs will probably outlast current hard disks.
Always make backups, no matter what. Preferably on a set of external drives that you swap out regularly.
But none of us actually do that, do we?
>>51694039
diminishing returns
you can't buy a 2-3TB SSD without dropping major cash (and the bigger SSDs coming out are still untested new tech)... so for storage that doesn't need to be fast but needs to be dependable, you can get a standard drive.
>>51694039
I have my shit backed up regularly. I also have a raid stripe-mirror, and when I have something I absolutely don't want to lose, I put it in ~~THE CLOUD~~
>>51694058
This, just store your backup on a Hard Drive.
If your SSD fails you don't need another SSD to write your data to a new SSD. If the backup drive fails, a new Hard Drive for backup will be stupid cheap.
>>51694075
>I also have a raid stripe-mirror,
Like that's going to help.
If one of your drives fails before you replace it for being obsolete, then most likely the cause of failure will be excessive heat. And if one drive overheats, guess what? Odds are the others do, too.
Mention of a RAID setup doesn't even belong in the same post as commentary on backing up data.
>>51693741
>Resets once every 27 days
Nice, that's pretty stable.
>>51693969
Especially in a laptop you want to store your irreplaceable data on a SOLID STATE drive. also >>51694039
>>51694058
Your anime/movie/video game collection is not irreplaceable and nobody has 2-3TB of family pictures/homework/Java source.
>>51694153
>Mention of a RAID setup doesn't even belong in the same post as commentary on backing up data.
as someone who used to run a RAID5 in my desktop, this is completely true
RAID is fantastic for avoiding data loss when it needs to be constantly backed up, like databases, but is not worth it, or really even useful, for keeping a media collection backed up
>>51692227
>Samsung
How are the software issues m8?
Crucial master race: no controversy, no bs pricing, nothing
>>51694335
This. Fuck Samsung. Seriously, I'll never trust their shit again.
>>51694039
I back my files up once a month. It is so hard to find Korean television shows only a few years old. Koreans stop seeding after a few weeks and they don't use DDL sites.
>>51694335
950 pro master race here, how's your shitty speed?
>>51694153
but it's a stripe (for speed) and a mirror. 4 drives total. I'd have to lose 2 drives to lose data. they're standard drives.
I'm not backing up my music collection this way, I'm getting a performance boost without risking data loss. four cheap white-label 1TB drives.
>>51692086
i bought two of these before i realized there was such a massive difference between ssd's. they aren't bad if coming from hdd, but compared to other ssd's kingston can be hundreds of megabytes slower in every aspect
>>51694468
How reliable are those? I see a 4TB drive for less than $100.
http://www.amazon.com/7200RPM-Cache-6-0Gb-Desktop-Warranty/dp/B00OS86QEO/
>>51692578
Uh, I don't remember what I bought but it was a cheapish Sandisk. 120gb, works great for OS install and loads games quickly. Only had it for a few months but I don't believe it'll last as long as a more expensive drive.
I use a Kingston in my SATA2 lappy. No issues so far.
Funny how different readings these two programs give.
HDTune is accurate though.
Crystaldisk and Samsung benchmark showed no problems and put up 500 MB/s speeds when my Samshits were actually chugging along 5MB/s
Can't wait for the next year and all the happening in the SSD market.
Many new players entering the game, so I wager that the prices are going to plummet like a rock.
At least I hope so.
These +300$ per 1TB prices can go have sex with themselves.
Also weren't they planning on pushing out the 3DXpoint next year?
Absolutely unrelated question but since you guys seem to know your drives:
Can I use my dead laptops hdd as an HDD on my desktop? Do I just need some sort of bay adapter or will I find connectivity issues?
Laptop is from 2011
>>51694853
Depends on if it has a proprietary connector or not. If not then it's just another 2.5" HDD with the same provisos as always.
>>51694853
You can just plug it in and go
>>51694869
It's just a regular wd blue, I had it changed back in 2013.
There's a lot of 3,5 to 2,5 adapters, should I buy the one with screws since its an HDD?
I just installed a Chinese SSD in my laptop yesterday, so far so good
>>51695483
<installed a Chinese SSD
>Chinese SSD
>Chinese
enjoy your corrupted files anon.
I have an Intel SSD from 2011 and it's working like a champ. I did buy a Sandisk SSD recently for $50 and I had to laugh at the thin plastic casing it came in. My old ass Intel came in a stainless steel case. I suppose you have to cut corners somewhere, but they probably only shaved pennies by putting the drive in a cheap case.
>>51694853
You're gonna have to take that HDD out and look at it. If it has the normal SATA connector then you can just plug that shit in your PC. The only minor issue you might run into is finding a place to mount it.
>>51695483
Why the fuck would you do that. You can buy a mid tier SSD for less than $50 now.
>>51692086
>cheap
>SSD
pick one and only one poorfag
>>51696378
Bought it a few months ago, 128GB mSATA SSD for $38
>>51696290
We'll see. I've got another one that's going in my iPod
>>51692086
I have two of these in raid 0
AMA
>>51692086
With the BX200 (250 GB for €70) there's no point in getting an even cheaper SSD at the risk of much worse performance.
>>51693355
Do you have ccleaner or something that wipes your thumbnail cache?
Cheap SSDs, well possibly.
However, the v300 is an example of a bad cheap SSD. It's famously the worst SSD on the market, and one of the best selling. Go figure.
>>51697176
its actually ok if you get the earlier models but you must check the serials before hand, newer versions are significantly worse performing
>>51694437
I'm enjoying the extra hundreds of dollars I save in the extra 1 second I have to wait for Battlefield 4 to load.
>>51692578
>Is an Ultra 2 better?
massively.
At this point SSD speed generally saturates, or close to saturates SATA III, so as long as your drive has:
450+MB/s sustained read/write
10k+ IOPS read (40k QD32)
30k+ IOPS write (60k QD32),
you're pretty much just buying based on price/GB or write endurance.
and afaik samsung have both of those cornered atm due to their v-meme shit
that said depending on how much you use it, even getting a cheaper drive might be an option, if the speeds are fast enough
>>51697416
Only if you are copying dozens of gigs of video data to/from it all day erryday. For most use, the thing that makes the huge difference is the near-zero random seek latency and this will be excellent even on low end drives.
I'm hackintoshing on a 240 GB Sandisk SSD plus, cheap (even cheaper on black Friday) and makes for a really fucking fast and responsive system.
Got a 240GB SanDisk during Black Friday
First one came defective, so I had to ask for another one.
It's faster than an HDD alright.
just make sure to get one with warranty and make back ups.
>all these 550mb/s read speeds
>not a single m.2 drive itt
>/g/ - technology
>>51698571
Where's yours?
>>51698606
in the mail
>>51698617
Yeah, sure bro.
>>51698571
>Actually buying m.2 drives
>>51692657
>thinking the advantage of SSDs are about sequential speeds
Sequential speeds are the only thing HDDs are good at. The whole point of using an SSD for OS and programs is the great access times because you don't have to wait for moving parts.
