http://www.modders-inc.com/psa-cooler-mounts-can-damage-skylake-cpus/
hahaha I'm glad I didn't upgrade. Look how stupidly thin that CPU PCB is!
jesus fucking christ; what possible reason would they have for thinning it? It's not like fiberglass is expensive.
it has to be fractions of a penny per chip
>Intel cheaping out on their high end processors.
Dear lord why
![snapshot_06.30_[2015.07.28_02.22.46].png](https://i.imgur.com/jBkU3fJ.jpg "snapshot_06.30_[2015.07.28_02.22.46].png")
>>51659795
they always cheaping out on their CPU's, like TIM's
>Offloads the pins to motherboard manufacturers
>Replaces solder with shit TIM
>Reduces thickness of CPU PCB
When will they stop?
>>51659890
Don't forget the ultrabook debacle
So glad I don't have to upgrade for the next 8 more or so years with my 2500k.
Literally the last good processor along with the 2600k.
Zen will save us. Right /g/? Right?!
>>51659764
>>51659795
cut manufacturing costs :^)
>>51660262
I bet everything except the cpu itself costs less than a dollar per package
INTEL IS BANKRUPT AND FINISH
>>51659708
>AMD in the gutter
>Intel basically running monopoly
>Intel quality drops because no competition
You got what you wished for Intelfags
>>51659708
>INTEL/NVIDIA/AMD ON SUICIDE WATCH
obligatory meme
>>51659795
>high end
Epic
>>51660282
It's probably the same interposer used for mobile cpus, they can save 0.01 every 10 from only having to make one!
>>51660337
I never understood this photo. I understand the original with the still large nose at least that one was offensive. This one just makes it look like hes some majestic bird with a large beak.
>>51659708
Goyum getting does Fucking Cpus are so fucking memes
you fagget cunt cnat even realize that is a meme cpu, stay on ur fucking 775
>>51660372
the bigger the jew, the bigger the nose
>>51660372
>photo
lel and I almost chose a skylake build for ddr4
>>51660456
Are you saying this isn't an actual photograph (albeit doctored sightly) of an average 1940s male of the chosen people?
>>51660372
>have an 6600k
>its less than 1 month old
>cooler master 212 evo
i'm fucked aren't i? its gonna die, i'm so sad and worried, please dear god help me
Wait the article says the coolers are bending the CPU when they're pre-installed and then shipped as a complete build?
IT'S OVER
INTEL IS FINISHED
F
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I
S
H
E
D
Long live AMD
>>51660508
This one makes sense. I like this one.
>that crunching sound when you clamp down your Intel socket LGA 1151 microprocessor
Can't understand nazi-speak
Can anyone tell me if my Thermaltake NIC C5 is affected by this?
Should I be worried? I have i7 6700k with a liquid cooling.
>>51660544
Is your cooler more than 1.5 times heavier than the stock cooler?
Helium core carbon fiber gilded coolers when?
>>51660556
Probably not. Liquid coolers generally put most of their weight elsewhere.
>>51660597
Skylake CPU's don't come with a stock cooler bruh
>>51660618
They may not come with one but they still sell them separately.
>>51660618
Intel saves money once again!
>>51660628
Well my C5 weights 811 g.
I'm fucked right? ;_;
>>51660372
Welcome to the joke. It's not meant to be offensive, it's meant to be funny.
To us, anyway. Some of the humour even comes from having other people offended by something so ridiculous.
>thinner PCB
>no included cooler
Profits
>>51660646
>The joke
The game
>>51660629
Yeah I really wish my CPU cost $10 more for something I'll put in a box in the closet and not use for the entire life of the processor
>>51660642
Maybe just lay your tower on the side. Less strain that way.
>>51660682
for the ridiculous price of skylake you should get a decent cooler with it
>>51660682
You really think you're profiting from the cost reduction? Ha, Skylake MSRP is even higher than Haslels. And the IPC gains are even less than the last jump. Face it you're just a cucK
>>51659890
When they cease to be a jewish company.
M
M
M
M
MONSTERKILL!!!!
FEAR ME! I CAN BEAT A FUCKING MULTIBILLION DOLLAR COMPANY!
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHA NOW I TRULY FEEL INVINCIBLE!!!
I wish I had the meme on this current machine, but I don't, so I cannot post it.
That's what the intel shills get for wanting shitloads of money from us for their shitty jew shit. sandy bridge was the last usable CPU from Intel, the rest is fucked garbage for small kids. AMD I'm coming!
ALSO: AHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA ALL IT TOOK WAS PAINT AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
ahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahah I annot stop laughing at that news
lmaolmaolmaolmao
suck my dick humanity, I hate every single one of you equally.
>>51660790
>>51660772
so this.. is the power of poor people..
>>51660805
call 911 if you feel hurt faggot
>>51659795
>1151
>highend
It's consumer level gear, HEDT is 2011-3.
>>51659890
>Offloads the pins to motherboard manufacturers
This is for a different, but equally jewish reason than you think.
It's so Intel only has to have a single SKU for an embedded and LGA CPU, since the pads on an LGA CPU double as a target for solder bumps.
Offloading a very damageable socket to mainboard manufacturers was a a good for them too, now Mainboards are more easily damaged, meaning more mainboard sales.
Everyone BUT the consumer wins.
>>51660901
>not removing the socket
>not soldering your cpu to the mainboard
what are you doing man?
dont you want a small % higher overcock
>mfw i just bought an i7 6700k and Hyper 212 EVO
>>51661128
LOL PWNT
>>51659764
they switched to shittier IHS-thermalpaste in order to save fraction of pennies at the cost of higher temperatures.
INTEL FUCKS YOU SEVEN DAYS A WEEK AND YOU PEOPLE LOVE IT!
You think the "jewtel" moniker was just a meme?
>>51660509
Just upgrade to lightweight liquid cooling goy
>>51659708
>skylake
Its a meme you dip
bigger
>>51661455
>>51659708
>actually being a poorfag and using an aircooler instead of a water cooling system
>>51661431
to be fair amd wouldn't have gotten into this situation if they just made good cpus
>Ron is a non-binary tech writer that presently identifies as a reviewer but is currently transitioning toward modding.
Kek
>>51661494
>wasting money on something that will fail in a year
>>51661435
>just spend hundreds of dollars
>>51661495
They did make good CPUs. Back when it counted, too.
But you're too young to remember back when AMD's CPUs were better.
Back in the P4 vs Athlon 64 days, it was like sandy bridge vs bulldozer in reverse.
Intel was the one with the shitty, inefficient processor and AMD was the one with the fast, efficient one.
Guess what happened?
Intel bribed OEMs, retailers, and went hambone on the illegal practices and made sure AMD didn't make much money.
And this isn't conspiracy shit either- Intel got successfully sued by AMD for what they did during the P4 days.
But AMD never recovered.
>>51659708
How credible is this article? seems like the author is full of memes.
>>51661555
>>51661495
AMD CPUs aren't bad this day if you only need them for casual use like gaymen etc.
and if you make a media streamer PC you might enjoy their APUs no
>>51661574
>meme
>Scythe acknowledges the problem and offers replacement
eat shit, jewtelshill
>>51659708
meanwhile using AMD I bent my coolers mounting hardware with a standard install
side affects: my cpu has a damned good thermal contact with the cooler
>>51661662
Its the OP link. See for yourself.
>>51661695
>only affects Scythe coolers
>mfw use superior Noctua products
>>51661494
>wasting money on a far more expensive cooling solution that is hardly, or in most cases not at all, better than air cooling
Custom loops need not apply.
No, you don't have one, shut up.
>>51659764
The real reason is probably so laptops can be thinner.
>Germans have to save the world once again from Jewish mayhem.
what about /g/'s finest cooler aka. CM212EVO? Is it also a cpu-holocauster?
>>51661772
laptops should all be using soldered-on CPUs anyways
>>51661494
>being this much of a nerd
>>51661796
>get laptop, has dual core i5
>buy 100$ quad core i7 with the same clocks from ebay
>install it in laptop
>no need to buy a faster laptop
>>51661555
indeed
>>51659708
Looks like a non backplate problem.
Good thing most high-end coolers come with a backplate to prevent bending.
Who the fuck buys a cooler that have pushpins?
>>51660618
My i5-6500 came with a stock cooler. What are you talking about?
>no statement from be quiet
>about to order rig with a be quiet! cooler which is huge
i'm scared
>>51661555
but that was literally 10+ years go
>>51661952
Because you can't overclock it
Intel figures people with unlocked processors will just throw it away when they get an aftermarket cooler, so why include a stock one?
>tfw noctuafag
>>51661986
Ah, thank you for explaining. It's funny because that's exactly what I did in another machine with a 4790k; just immediately tossed the stock cooler and replaced it with liquid cooling
>>51660719
>intel stock
>decent
Kek
>>51661495
nothing wrong with using AMD processors.
>>51662307
that's le point I'm tryin to make cunt
>>51662315
>1: 3.5GHz 6 core
>2: 3.5GHz 4 core
>3: 5.0GHZ 8 core
>4: 4.7GHz 8 core
>5: 4.0GHz 8 core
>6: 3.4GHz 4 core
>7: 3.4GHz 4 core
It takes AMD 4GHz and 8 cores to beat a 3.4GHz 4 core Intel, but even their 5GHz gets beating by a 3.5GHz 4 core Intel.
TOP
FUCKING
KEK
>>51662360
>fx 6300 outperforming an i5 2500k
>fx 8350 outperforming an i5 4790k
>significantly better multi thread performance thanks to cmt
How again are they not competitive?
>>51661363
What is the alternative? AMD is far from competitive in the CPU sphere.
>>51662509
>fx 6300 lost against 2500k
>fx 8350 lost against the 2600k (4790k is even faster than that).
wew AMD
>>51659708
Because they are Jews
>>51661063
With all that BGA soldering equipment I have at home.
>>51661956
Same.
What are good coolers with backplates or non-shitty mounting-systems?
>>51662540
>fx 8350 beating i5 4670
>fx 8350 costs less
remind me again how this shows the fx 8350 as a weak processor?
>>51659708
>meanwhile, my 6600k at 4.3ghz stays cool at max 57°C with a top flow noctua fan in a matx case
whats the officer, problem ?
>>51662540
Wew lad
>>51662540
>overclocked fx 8350 beating a haswel i7 4770
>3 year old AMD trading blows with an updated Intel I7
anything you buy from AMD is guaranteed to be futureproof, so happy with my fx 8320 at 4.8 ghz.
>>51662640
>anything you buy from AMD is guaranteed to be futureproof
Tell that to the people that bought APUs 2 years ago that just lost driver support.
>>51662651
i'm one of them poor sods
viinaa pitää juua
>>51662606
>8 core 4GHz still loses to a 4 core 3.4GHz.
>Haswell was never a performance architecture yet still takes the second spot.
AMD, give up.
>>51662629
Indeed wew, they have to sell it for that price since nobody wants their inferior hardware in their rigs.
>Have to lower price even more since every AMD comes with a faulty temp sensor.
>FX8350 is stock at 4GHz, only OC it 800MHz
Gets beaten by 3.5GHz Intels, yet those Intels can go past 4.8GHz.
Wewewewewew! Watch out it's the AMD death waltz
http://valid.canardpc.com/2251084
>>51662693
so if i wanto to gotta go fast, play some fps gayming, i go with intel?
>cm 212 evo
>backplate
>be quiet pure rock
>backplate
feels good to be masterrace
>>51662717
Yes, it cost more but get more FPS out of your rig.
You can get somewhat good performance with AMD but you'll have to be in the 6-7GHz to beat a 400-500MHz OCd Intel.
>>51662693
fuck off randy
>>51662693
>Haswell was never a performance architecture
wat
Haswell has always been a performance arch, the only arch Intel has that is focused on power saving is the stuff used in the Atoms
>>51662733
AMD is the budget option and in newer games they're doing just fine.
cmt is paying off especially now that dx12 will take advantage of more cores.
i was planning on upgrading to a 6600k or zen, but I just might hold on to my 8320 for a few more years.
>>51662791
>cmt is paying off
That's the sad thing, it took around 5 years for CMT to give anything good
>>51662791
Again a 8 core 4GHz vs a 4 core 3.4GHz.
>>51662810
>100$ vs 400$
Keep shilling rabbi
>>51662810
it's 4 modules 8 threads.
AMD just has a better approach to multithreading than Intel.
>>51662840
So it's a 4GHz vs a 3.4GHz race then.
That 4GHz ain't that fast then.
>>51661772
This is not a laptop CPU
Thx god for a thick layer for thermal paste. Should absorb the pressure.
>>51662360
to be fair no bulldozer chip actually has 8 cores
i have a skylake 6600k, i have delidded it with a razor and the razor slipped from my hand and i bent the pcb AND i broken a corner of the die... and it fucking works super good and now i have 15 degrees less
>>51662857
that 4ghz is still beating that 3.4ghz.
you're also completely disregarding the performance to price here.
>>51662891
I want performance, price isn't an issue.
OC'ing the Intel to 4GHz totally changes the thing.
>but I can OC muh AMD
As can the Intel.
As said above, an OC'd Intel is fast enough that AMD needs to have 6GHz+ to even have a chance since their 5GHz get beaten by Intels i7 at 3.5GHz.
>>51662903
just because you don't have a budget doesn't mean no one else does.
>>51662903
>I want performance, price isn't an issue.
Then why not stop being a faggot from /v/ and get a POWER mainframe
Or at least a Xeon
>>51662912
>Xeons
Good thing even you know it takes an Intel to reach desired performance.
>>51662929
The Opteron'ss can go against the Xeon's fairly well, and neither can beat a POWER chip
>>51662903
>price isn't an issue
>looking at consumer processors instead of intels top end 12 core xeons
>>51662949
>Finding water blocks for motherboards almost nobody uses.
It's like you're not even running water cooling.
>>51660293
This.
>>51662949
BTFO'd
>>51662966
>not machining your own
>>51659708
So glad to have AMD right now haha
every penny counts
if you are into encoding, which should you pick, amd or intel?
>>51663001
So glad I have an 3770k with decent enough cooling running at 4.5Ghz and 60°C max while beating the shit out of your CPU no matter what you have while not having the issues posted in the OP.
>>51663027
AMD if you are poor
Intel if you are rich
>>51661431
Funny how that picture portrays Intel as Fake more cores with the ongoing debacle class action over Bulldozers 2 integer, 1 float "modules".
>>51663027
Intel. It's actually kind of funny, no matter the situation, there is never a reason to go AMD. If you're a poorfag, just buy a console, that's the only AMD solution.
>>51663095
can i rip and encode dvds and blurays with a console?
not erryone's a gaymer manchild, mind you
>>51661972
Yes, it turns out being cut out of the laptop market starting in about 2006 was really fucking bad for AMD's profits. They still haven't recovered.
>>51662571
just reflow it in a toaster oven brah
GTFO with your off-topic bullshit
>>51662780
>Haswell has always been a performance arch
I think he means Haswell was supposed to be increase power efficiency, over Ivy.
>>51662903
>I want performance, price isn't an issue.
then get haslel-e or haslel-dt if the desktop chips aren't using gimped performance, you miss out on nvme on the m.2 connectors but can still use nvme on pci slots but in turn get a better performance:cost ratio chip with non-gimped pcb design and non-gimped tim material
>>51663030
Ivy was so based and the 3770k is probably the last good CPU intel made, along with the 3570k. A shame they cheaped out on haswell.
I like AMD and use it myself but if I could trade for a 3770k I would in a heatbeat.
>>51660754
you do know they aren't made there, right
>>51660901
>now Mainboards are more easily damaged, meaning more mainboard sales
But usually you spend less on a motherboard. Unless you buy something like ROG, it's a lot better to break a 150 dollar motherboard than a 300 dollar CPU.
>>51663160
Solid advice but right now I'm using a Mini-ITX board.
My next will be a M.2 supported board.
I got an i5 4690K I bought for $50 that was used in a gamer rig that haven't been overclocked.
(Person wanted an i7 so I said I could buy it off him.)
>>51661707
>superior Noctua products
>mfw people think noctua fans are fucking amazing
>mfw there's a brand that makes fans that push more air harder with lower noise at the same RPM as noctua
>while selling four of them for the same price as single noctua fan
>>51663198
I'll bite.
I know these are not easy to come by nowadays and that there are others similar in performance.
>>51663207
People are going to blow this off because they look ricy but I'm referring to Cougar fans. Shame there's so few good reviews, I refuse to use anything else.
>>51663221
I heard about those but they weren't sold here, noiseblockers had decent static pressure as well.
>>51663198
>mfw there's a brand that makes fans that push more air harder with lower noise at the same RPM as noctua
which brand is that?
>>51662680
fuck off randy
>>51663221
I have a couple cougar fans, work fine but one of them came with a tiny bit of excess plastic from the mold on one of the blades that would hit the housing, the noise it made was annoying as fuck until I figured out the problem and cut it off
>>51663231
>>51663228
>>51663221
>>51663207
I have 11 Noctua fans in my closet ranging from the redbrown to the brown NF-P12 to the NF-P12 PWM and AF-14 PWM, but when using radiators I simply wanted something more reliable when it comes to static pressure.
>>51663241
Never had that issue, I've bough ~10 of them. Had their Challenger? case for a while in my first build and it was quite solid.
>>51663231
Cougar.
>>51663231
At ~70% load I'm guessing from my fan controller they're quieter than my HDD. And that's four of them in a very open case.
>>51663167
Intel CPUs were based even before Ivy. The 2600k is one of my favorite CPUs of all time.
Also, what was the bit fuckup with Haswell? The Thermal Paste? I thought this was a problem with my Ivy bridge aswell (though as already mentioned, temps are fine even after the OC, running Liquid cooling obviously).
And didn't they fix it with Devils Canyon (or whatever horrible name they chose for marketing the Haswell refresh)
>>51663269
>Also, what was the bit fuckup with Haswell?
IIRC, instead of soldering the heatspreader to the chip, they just used cheep thermal paste.
>>51663066
What? Bulldozer has 1 integer and 1 float to each core.
The only thing that's different is that the floats are half the usual size but can be paired up to do larger calculations and two cores share L2 cache.
>>51663095
fx 6300 at 4.5ghz and a 980 ti, or a 390 and an i5 4460?
here in aus there's a hundred dollar difference between the fx 6300 and i5 4460, and I believe it'll be the faster cpu with the overclock.
built myself a budget pc last year with the fx 6300 and gtx 960. If I had gotten an I5 I would have had to step down to an r7 265.
![10060858882l[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/K3HyFma.jpg "10060858882l[1].jpg")
>>51663269
>And didn't they fix it with Devils Canyon (or whatever horrible name they chose for marketing the Haswell refresh)
less fixed, more "it's super expensive highend shit, no need to jew a few cents".
with skylake they went in full-chosen-one-mode, even with highend-models:
http://www.overclock3d.net/articles/cpu_mainboard/skylake_delidding_does_it_improve_thermals/1
16°C difference to delidded chip at stock-clocks, 20°C difference to delidded chip overclocked.
>>51663269
>>51663275
Both Ivy and Haswell have thermal compound on the IHS instead of soldered IHS
Ivy added the trigate and Haswell went for lower watt.
>>51663296
AMD modules are like GTX970's slow partitioned 512MB RAM.
>>51663309
>AMD modules are like GTX970's slow partitioned 512MB RAM.
Literally comparing apples to oranges.
>>51663207
>Indonesia
tight
>>51663296
bulldozer has 2 integer to one float.
>>51663296
Bulldozer consists of 4 modules, each with 2 integer and 1 floating point core.
It never was a true 8 core CPU. That's why AMD is facing a class action lawsuit right now.
does amd cpu's have stuff like this?
http://www.alexrad.me/discourse/why-rosyna-cant-take-a-movie-screenshot.html
https://isc.sans.edu/forums/diary/Intels+new+processors+have+a+remote+kill+switch+AntiTheft+30/10111/
>>51663316
Strangely enough that's exactly how it is.
It's marketed as an 8 core while half of them are bottlenecked.
Just like 970's last RAM partition.
You are all dumb as bricks.
This is caused by pressure. Nothing to do with the type of the cooler. This could happen with a lightweight CPU waterblock.
>>51663331
AMD can't afford to put shit like that in their processors
>>51663331
>Takes screenshots without any problem on my 6600K.
wewowewow
>>51662966
It's the same socket you fag.
>>51663030
So you're a faggot then? Good to know.
>>51663362
>Salty AMD shill drooling over the thought of having one of the best CPUs ever made
Its okay, no need to be mad.
>>51663340
>Nothing to do with the type of the cooler.
What is pushpins.
>>51663357
I said water blocks for motherboard, not CPU you retarded piece of shit.
>>51663319
>>51663327
Got some whitepapers to prove it?
There's an integer core + a 128-bit FPU for each core.
Two cores to a module, with the FPUs designed in such a way that it can execute a 256-bit instruction.
One module has L2 and decoders shared between the two cores.
I guess it would technically be a 4-core chip if you're doing EXCLUSIVELY 256-bit instruction executions.
For all other intents and purposes it's 8 cores with a shitty front-end.
>>51662966
>price isn't an issue
>whines about a part that will be expensive.
don't worry, I'm sure your mummy will help pay for it as part of Christmas and also your upcoming 13th birthday.
>>51663380
>complains about a part that haven't been made for x motherboard.
You where saying?
>>51663377
1 fpu, 2 integer.
I'm not a CPU architect so much can't explain the fine details, but I know this much at least.
hopefully I can understand this all a lot better once I've graduated cs.
>>51663375
Pushpins have an innate limit on how hard they can apply pressure.
>>51663393
so make one or manufacture one.
if price isn't an issue then you'd have no issue getting a custom part.
>>51663413
And that pressure limit is what kills Skylakes.
Actually it killed a lot of older boards as well.
>>51663427
No, it doesn't. Intel even made a cooler, with pushpins, specifically for Skylake.
http://vr-zone.com/articles/this-is-what-intels-first-cpu-cooler-for-skylake-looks-like/97189.html
>>51663424
>So fly to the end of the galaxy to pick up a rare rock that makes the best base metal for a block, then head to the sun and pick up some helium.
>Shouldn't be too expensive for you.
Do you even know the meaning behind money isn't an issue?
Money isn't an issue doesn't mean I should buy a million dollar machine to make a part that cost $150.
>>51663443
Did you even read the damn article?
It was about 3rd party coolers bending, not the piece of shit Intel cooler.
>Asrock's Haswell stuff was all blue/black/icy
>Skylake theme is orange/red/fire
I wanted a fire themed build reee
>>51663207
Nidec are making GTs again, they're going to become easier to buy in the next few weeks.
https://modmymods.com/gentle-typhoon-performance-radiator-fan-550-1850rpm-58cfm-black-edition-pwm-d1225c12b5zpa65.html
>>51663443
>that intel cooler
yeah, no. I would rather shoot myself in the head than use something like this on such an expensive CPU.
Also, as far as I know there are no high end coolers best in slot for overclocks that use pushpins.
If buying as Skylake makes me get stuck with shit tier coolers, why buy one in the first place?
The jews at intel shot themselves in the foot, yet again.
>>51663443
LGA 1150 stock cooler is push pin tho?
>>51663472
that looks similar to CM Sickleflow but probably better bearings.
>>51663472
PRAISE JESUS!
>>51663472
>Nidec are making GTs again
Now I am interested - I have a need to replace some SP120's I have and GTs might just be what I need.
>>51663472
Best news of 2015.
>>51663483
Also this, Sandy until Intel learned how to do a proper CPU again.
>b-b-but muh DDR4
>>51663443
jewtel's selling cpu and stock-cooler seperately now!?
hol dup
So non-K locked Skylake CPU's DON'T come with a cooler at all?
>>51663472
>mfw bought a GT AP-31 5400RPM for fun.
>>51663508
Would you rather have them add the price of a cooler you're never gonna use?
>>51663445
>million dollar machine
More like a $300 mill and a good set of stones.
>>51663443
why is that shit built so much better when skylake has a lower tdp
Just remove the cooler during transport.
Problem solved.
Only sucks when you frequent LAN parties.
>>51663510
Nope.
Nobody sane enough would use a stock cooler on an overclocked CPU and Intel don't want to deal with idiots frying their CPU on coolers made and tested for stock speeds.
>>51663445
if money isn't the issue then what is?
spend as much as you need to get your product.
>>51662903
>I want performance, price isn't an issue.
So, if Intel just doubled their prices, you'd still buy from them because "MUH PERFORMANCE"?
Good goy
>>51663521
>frying their CPU
Practically impossible.
CPU's throttle when they get too hot.
You can even safely remove the CPU cooler while running a CPU benchmark.
>>51662538
for anything that isn't an unoptimized piece of shit, AMD works incredibly well.
>stupid sacks of shit still give a company which goes out of its way to kek its customers into paying 30% the total price
>just for the ABILITY to overkek
>overkeking only gives at best 5% performance increase
seriously now, locking your multiplier just so you can charge customers extra is FUCKED UP
>>51663513
oh, you think intel lowered the price? hahah.
>>51663528
Having 10 grand to spend on a computer is enough for it being "money isn't an issue".
Or are you so retarded that you think Bill Gates is too poor to build a PC just because YOU think he should spend 9019283 trillion dollars on a waterblock?
>>51663544
Intel already cost 2-3 times more than AMD.
>>51663546
>Cars have rev limiters so they don't blow up.
>Engine blows up after revving at redline for a couple of minutes.
>>51663558
Considering that a 6600K cost less than a 2500K at release while including inflation, yes, they did lower the price.
>>51660901
>more mainboard sales
apparently switching sockets with every upgrade wasn't enough?
what an awful fucking company.
I like supporting the underdog. AMD for life. fuck jewtel.
>>51662538
Wait and hope for Zen.
>>51663594
It's 2009 again?
>>51663570
You can run benchmarks on an OC'ed CPU without any cooler for months and it won't overheat.
It's not a car engine, it's a piece of electronics with automatic clock speeds designed to stay within its thermal limits no matter what.
>>51663570
>having 10 grand
having a budget means that money is an issue.
limit yourself to 10 grand and you will find the need to drop some parts and make compromises. are you this retarded?
>>51663625
When money is and issue it implies that you're so low on money that you have to go budget and cut corners left and right.
>>51663594
Hope worked for bulldozer
>>51663646
No, it really didn't. XD
>>51663521
>overclocked
>non-K locked
>>51660618
Only the K and extreme editions don't come with a cooler because you're expected to buy a good cooler for overclocking you fucking ass.
>>51661695
So the PCB is thinner because the CPU itself is thicker to keep the CPUs at the same thickness overall so the CPU coolers could be compatible with older sockets.
Having a physically thicker CPU with compatible mounting holes for the cooler meant people were going to crush their CPUs.
>>51663717
why are people bottoming out their coolers with their mobo's pcb? they shouldn't have to do that.
>>51663570
>Or are you so retarded that you think Bill Gates is too poor to build a PC just because YOU think he should spend 9019283 trillion dollars on a waterblock?
Jesus Christ anon, it would cost like, $500 at most if you can do up a print yourself and give it to a shop to make a one off. Waterblocks aren't some super complex thing.
>>51663774
>Warranty on a one time custom part.
>>51663717
If they had made the substrate and IHS exactly like haswell's, this wouldn't be an issue.
the pcb being 33% thinner without any obvious reason is the issue.
also:
>thinner pcb
>make up with thicker IHS
>but use shitty TIM just because
GENIOUS
>>51663781
Warranty for fucking what? There's no moving pieces in a water block and there's no wear surfaces unless you're putting new fittings in every other day. And it's not like the warranty would cover your hardware on a commercial waterblock anyway.
>>51663808
Haven't used a Corsair CLC
>>51663789
>without any obvious reason
Maybe not obvious to you.
But I'm sure the Intel engineers have a good reason.
>>51663817
What?
>>51663742
People tend to keep screwing until they reach the end.
>>51663821
Like planned obsolescence
>>51663824
There's a pump in a CLC cpu block
>>51663821
well, yes, obviously, I'm fairly sure why _they_ want the cpus to run at 20°C higher than necessary.
>>51663837
What's your point? We're obviously talking about a custom loop. Just because Corsair put a pump in the block doesn't mean it needs to be there by any stretch of the imagination.
>>51663857
Skylake refresh
Literally the same chip, but with better packaging so they can bump the clock speeds
>>51663781
why would a water block need warranty?
>>51663837
we're talking about a water block, not an aio clc.
>>51663837
>CLC
Adults are talking, go back to the kiddy table.
>>51659708
>estarkey7 - Friday, August 14, 2015 - link
>Take this from an IPC+ certified PCB Designer: More likely than not, there is NO WAY that is a 5 layer PCB. That just begs for warpage among other manufacturing issues.
http://www.anandtech.com/comments/9505/skylake-cpu-package-analysis/467234
spooky
>>51662840
Im an AMD fanboy but LMAO. Saying 8 cores is a fair match up against 4 cores 8 threads. The delusions. Any 8 core intel processor at and equivalent clock speed to any 8 core amd processors will literally decimate it.
>>51663950
Intel fanboy here, yeah but at a hefty cost.
Then we have the insane Intel CPUs.
http://ark.intel.com/products/84685/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E7-8890-v3-45M-Cache-2_50-GHz
>>51663950
Please identify the 8 cores.
>>51663971
I bet it doesn't use at least a third of its power due to thermal throttling.
>>51663983
I see 4 cores, 4 sets of cache memory a GPU and 4 big blocks of slower cache.
>>51663991
Do you know why Xeons have lower clock speed?
>>51661494
>closed loop cooling
Hello Reddit my old friend
>>51663999
But that's an "8 core" bulldozer.
Here's how AMD labels it.
>>51663999
>Do you know why Xeons have lower clock speed?
Do you know my shitty i3 with similar clock speeds still shits itself on regular basis?
>>51664029
>Do you know my shitty i3 with similar clock speeds still shits itself on regular basis?
>>51663950
>3fps
>>51663742
>why are people bottoming out their coolers with their mobo's pcb? they shouldn't have to do that.
My cooler has springs to supply the "correct" pressure.
I'm supposed to tighten the screws all the way.
With a thicker CPU this system would no longer work.
Although I suppose they could sell longer replacement pins.
>>51664047
>GTAV a MHz demanding game
>Let's compare a 3.5GHz to a 4GHz.
>>51664043
Yeah, it has 2 cores, the Xeon you linked has 18.
And its tcase temperature is only 79°C. Have fun dishing out dough for industrial fans.
>>51660673
>mfw I lost the gaem
oh fuck
only dubs can save me now!
>>51663950
but the AMD processor is 8 threads.
4 fpu, 8 integer cores.
4 modules 8 threads.
if you don't understand cmt believe it's 8 complete cores then you don't belong on a technology board.
typically it's one fpu per integer unit, to make a cpu core.
>>51664066
I'd be more concerned about those horrific 1% lows the 5960x is getting. Still the clai mwas decimation which isn't always true.
>>51664092
If you roll with the logic that BD isn't 8 cores if you stretch the definition enough of what is/is not a core some older cpus technically have zero cores.
>>51664107
I partially agree with that, but I'm modern processors that's how it's been.
there is no real definition of what a cpu core is, AMD processors can be 8 cores, or 4 modules 8 cores depending how you look at it.
>>51664150
>there is no real definition of what a cpu core is
Which is why that lawsuit against AMD is going to be laughed out of a courtroom.
>>51664043
kek that picture
>>51664184
technically the processor has 8 integer cores though.
>>51663354
It only applies to DRM-protected content.
>>51663331
If I recall correctly, AMD has their own version, though wether it's as far-reaching or intrusive I have no idea.
>>51664047
>benchmarks that matter
This is not one of them you fucking shill.
>>51664329
It matters to majority of /g/ retard.
>>51664184
>>51664279
Its about marketing. The way Nvidijew did it with the 970 was not legal just as the AMD case now.
