Arcade Sticks
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Arcade sticks are technology too. Post your arcade stick. What's your pcb? What kind of led controller do you use if any
>pic related the one that I use because I'm too poor to build a new one
>>/v/
>>51657691
But /v/ sucks. I just wanted to talk about the actual hardware of the controller
>>51657636
the DC arcade stick is fucking awesome wish I had a pair personally
got 2 arcade sticks myself with a TvC stick and a PS2 one from red octane with a nice little PCB I'm sure is actually universal
>Oh boy an interesting thread
>HURR FUCK OFF TO V I DONT SEE HOW THIS IS TEKNOLOJEE
http://www.slagcoin.com/joystick/introduction.html
Relevant link
Used a Mayflash PCB for this thing. My only experience in soldering is with these vidya controller PCBs, so trying to neatly solder all those small, closely located contacts on the Mayflash PCB felt like a nightmare.
Is there a relatively easy to solder and wire PS4 PCB that I can use for a new stick build yet?
>>51659443
I also didn't bother to use quick disconnects, so all the PCB wires are soldered directly to the buttons and JLF harness wires. I didn't have QDs on hand and I didn't want to wait for them to arrive in the mail since SFxT had just released. Really regret it now since I want to change the art, but doing so would involve desoldering everything and basically rewiring it.
>>51657636
I have an orginal Round 1 TE from 2009 with custom silent buttons(pic related)
after years of abuse, its giving me fucked inputs and the wire is hanging on for dear life
i got a new TE2 and modded it orange
this is muh Qanba Q4 RAF. I don't really know much about the inner workings but it's a nice stick. :3
Technically still an arcade stick?
>>51659964
Not much to them
>You want more resistance on your on joystick?
change the spring
>Buttons jamming or being too loud?
change the buttons
>Don't like square gate?
Get an octogate
>Don't like gumball top?
get a Bat top
aside of some hardware stuff(PCB's, etc.), everything else is cosmetic
>>51660035
I re-did the buttons to get silenced ones on it, they're pretty nice. Sanwa Denshi parts are all I've known though in terms of hardware, never had to mess with the electronics on it as it works on PC/360/PS3. I was considering looking at getting it to work on PS4 but I have no one near me that could feasibly do it.
>>51659982
sdvx is a meme game for osutards who are to shit for IIDX and Pop'n
Is there an entry level arcade stick guide or something?
>>51660585
learn electronics and stick around forums. Arcade sticks dont need huge amount of knowledge to be able to mod its one of the easiest piece of hardware to mod since evrything is labeled clearly
tank stick
idc that it's pre-made shit really, it all works 10/10
>>51661109
X-arcade stick = literally the worst buttons ever known to man. Its so shoddily built too evryone says its shit and can tell from personal experience its nothing like a real arcade stick
>>51661148
I only paid $150 for it so I can't complain about any of it. They have to make a profit somehow.
if you put the parts together with all happ it would be about $170, add on the shell/wiring/paintjob/labor.
>>51657636
>tfw no Green Goblin
I was in the 3rd grade when the Dreamcast released, so asking my parents to $100 on a controller was just not happening. Always wanted one though.
mine (wow I need to clean this thing)
aside from the cosmetic stuff, I also have a higher tension spring and a larger actuator installed
>>51657636
Got a second generation eTokki Omni with all keys / stick / top / washers customized. It obviously uses the Jaewong triple-PCB.
My other and more recent stick is the Venom PS4 Arcade stick which I outfitted with Sanwa parts. It's really cheap (sub-100€) and uses the Mayflash case design.
No pictures because I'm at work.
>>51659443
You could take a look at the Venom PS4 stick I mentioned for stripping its PCB. I have no confirmed figures on the PCBs input lag though and I mostly use my eTokki because of that (hopefully SFV will implement LabZero).
>>51657636
dont mind the dead skin in the left corner. shit happens when you actually use your arcade stick instead of just having it lying around and not using it.
best stick I had since the rap1. really love the kuro buttons, prefer them over sanwa or seimitsus.
I have 2 of these, other one not with me rn T_T. (Inb4 stupid bemani fag)
I just have a Quamba Q1 still stock I've had for over a year because I'm lazy and haven't changed the stick gate, let alone the artwork on the facing.
>>51664143
my nigga. I have 2 of those that need to be referb'd. Are you saving up for a DJ Dao anytime in the future
>>51664170
Yea man, about to get a pop'n dao from gamo2 and wtb a used c33 sometime
I need a silent stick - optical stick and silent buttons. Where do I buy such a thing?
>>51661085
Wait, you're supposed to build your own or something?
>>51657636
>tfw no authentic wooden joysticks exist
>>51667017
of course they do, they're just not cheap.
or you can build them fairly easily as sanwa/seimitsu parts and pcbs are all inexpensive and easy to source.
>>51657923
Go cry about it on /v/eddit
>>51657912
I got mine at a garage sale for like 30 dollars. I've seen a couple at flea markets and swap meets before as well although more expensive
>>51660064
Get a converter or get a multiconsole pcb. It takes a bit of soldering but it's not difficult
>>51659982
I'd count it as an arcade stick.
What do you use it for anon what kind of parts does it use
Pic related.
It's awesome because it's easily serviceable.
Downside it's pretty damn heavy !
>tfw you prefer fightpads
Am I a pleb?
>>51667459
No, they're pretty much objectively better if execution isn't a problem for you.
Hitbox is the best.
>>51666972
Ideally that's what you wanna do. You can always buy a madcatz which has really good build quality and just replace some of the buttons and ball top. But you'll be look down upon. Building one yourself gets you some street cred and in the end looks better than the madcatz.
Customised ps4 arcade stick with sanwa buttons and joystick
Video games are for (man)children
Back to >>>/v/
>>51665618
Toodles on shoryuken is working on an optical sensor for Sanwa sticks. He's beta testing it right now. You could by one from him for $55. The clicking doesn't bother me but you might be interested
>>51667573
Does it work with PS3?
>>51667459
In my experience most fight pads are poorly built and not designed well. D-pads also seem to always read my quarter circles as z - motions and that causes problems. Different folks different strokes
>>51667672
It works with ps3, ps4 and pc
>>51667678
I picked up the one by hori, fc4 I think. Its got adjustable diagonal zones. I was having the same issue at first but messing with that helped a lot
>>51667614
This.
Cool, grown up guys use ad-hominem insults and shitpost all day long!
>I am gamer
>>51657691
Seriously anon chill
Peripherals are straight up tech. I didn't read any mention of any game titles. You must /b/ lost with that flame.
>>51657636
Winrar
>>51667573
is that a venom?
So I need to put some button leds on my stick. I like to play in the dark and I sometimes lose my finger placement... and I think they are cool. I was wondering what led controller and leds would you guys reccomend. Also my friend needs me to build him a stick should I cannibalize one of his xbox controllers for the pcb or should I get him a multi console one
>>51667483
Are you supposed to make the PCB yourself and write your own embedded microcontroller code too?
It sounds like a fun project, even if the only fighting game I play is blazblue.
>>51667892
yeah
>>51667411
arcade sticks cannot be heavy enough imo.
i'd like a te2, but it's fucking 230€ in Germany.
the sf5 te2+ is 270€ even. that's ridiculous.
have settled with an hrap v hayabusa. made a few modifications. I replaced the kuro microswitches witch sanwa obsf30 switches and added some noise dampening to the case.
>>51661109
Tank Stick is utter shit. Get a competition joystick and buttons.
>>51661408
>I only paid $150 for it so I can't complain about any of it.
You were massively ripped off. You can buy an entire arcade machine for that price.
>>51661408
>if you put the parts together with all happ it would be about $170
Also this is false. The joystick, buttons, and switches would be about $50 new. You can build the box to put them in for another $50 (less if you use your brain for a few minutes).
>>51667903
You don't have to make the pcb yourself. There are a lot of pcbs to choose from. I use cthulu mc but there are others. You could also always just rip apart a ps3 controller and use that. I don't reccomend it but it works. Building a stick is a really fun project if you like soldering and putting stuff together
>>51668127
aus welchem grund willst du ein drecks mad catz produkt wenn hori in jeglicher hinsicht besser ist?
>>51668306
>>51668322
ty 4 the epic opinionz
>>51669660
85$ trackball
yeah... nah
>>51669713
K buy a shit $50 trackball and it's down to $140. It's not something I'm taking out of the total price because I use it.
Are you fucks for real? 50+ dollars for a fucking one button switch? kek
>>51669753
>QTY: 18
Does someone else here has a squeaky JLF?
Thing is, everytime I open my arcadestick to see if it's the switches or the spring it stops. After 1 hour of play the squeaking starts again.
It's a new JLF and it is well greased.
Reportin'.
Seimitsu LS-55
Seimitsu PS-15
Sanwa OSBF-24 (start/sel, not in view)
PCB out of an el-cheapo game controller (DragonRise something-or-other)
Case made from an old IKEA kitchen cabinet.
>>51670997
That's a nice fucking case.
Gonna build my own stick soon. Already got all the parts just need some time to sand down some mahogany for the case
Noone DIY?
There man
>>51671169
Is that a Bible?
Classy.
What's the point of a stick that isn't analog like a flight stick?
It's kinda crappy, but it was a gift and it works
>>51670997
>Case made from an old IKEA kitchen cabinet.
Pls explain. Having the art stretch completely across the top looks cool as hell. Is it just a stick on laminated picture or is there also plexi?
>>51669660
That site is a complete rip-off.
Literally the very first result on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HAPP-COMPETITION-8-WAY-JOYSTICKS-14-BUTTONS-MORTAL-KOMBAT-KILLER-INSTINCT-/360743866052?hash=item53fe028ec4:g:12kAAOxyXp5SO2wE
And you can probably get this shit for half of this price if you buy it from someone on the arcadecontrols forum.
You wasted your money.
![s-l1600[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/uCPwNjz.jpg "s-l1600[1].jpg")
>>51672997
And look at this:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-Used-Joysticks-Ultimate-Super-Competition-40-Push-Buttons-W-Microswitches-/191717789825?hash=item2ca3455081:g:eagAAOSwA4dWId6p
>used
Trust me, these stick and buttons do not wear out. They last and last and last. And you're getting 12 of them and 40 fuckin' buttons. If one is bad you can just swap them out.
>trackball
You can get the real deal instead of some chinese knock-off modern clone right here
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Atari-Arcade-Game-Yellow-Track-Ball-with-Harness-/171902925605?hash=item2806367b25:g:uRwAAOSw3ydV2HxB
All you need to interface this with your computer is a very easy mouse hack.
>>51657636
My arcade stick is Hori Real Arcade Pro EX for Xbox 360.
I've had it for years and it just werks. It will probably last me through Street Fighter V.
Don't buy into the hype of expensive joysticks. As long as it has a Sanwa JLF or a Semitsu LS-32 you're golden. (and Hori's in-house knockoffs actually ain't that bad).
Sanwa buttons and their "sensitivity" are snake oil. But them wearing out faster isn't. Hori or Semitsu buttons are -fine-.
>mfw people used to buy expensive "long life" Sanwa buttons that lacked the sensitivity thus defeating the whole point.
>>51667483
>But you'll be look down upon.
Nah. If anything building your own stick in the FGC gets you labeled as slightly autistic. Not in a derogatory way, but you don't see any top players building their own.
>>51667856
These are basically the pre-built "gaming" desktop computer of arcade sticks. Do not buy.
![JAKKS-Golden-Tee-Golf-TV-Games_Controller[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/jaYrNGF.jpg "JAKKS-Golden-Tee-Golf-TV-Games_Controller[1].jpg")
>>51669738
You can take the trackball out of a golden tee TV game you get on ebay for $10. It's the exact same hardware.
>>51670467
There was a batch of them that did this years ago. See about getting a replacement or live with it.
>>51662983
>>51659443
Brook now has a PS3/PS4 PCB.
http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/fgc-console-joystick/1630-brook-ps3ps4-fighting-board.html
I'm going to muck about with it when I can get one in Canada.
>>51673159
Aren't top players sponsored anyways? Fuck em.
>>51673293
Some of them, but even before that it was uncommon for them to use customs. The closest thing was the old MAS sticks, which were semi-custom.
hey, i have one of these, i know its not good but i would still like to get it to work on the pc... anyone know how? the ps2 connector does now work (at least for pc use)
I was thinking of getting an arcade stick to play shmups with, but I've never had experience buyone one before. Where should I begin looking?
>>51667856
I wouldn't buy one new, but wouldn't pass it up for $40 or less at a garage sale.
$20 in parts from the internet, and you can build something better. $25 if you need to buy a hole-saw.
>>51660079
Take videogame discussion to /v/ you fucktard.
No one cares about the game, just the hardware.
>>51675068
for good ones, you are looking at 150$ to 300$
personally i want to try building my own with a tintcy (sp) and some cherry switches with custom printed caps, maybe make an 8 way d pad with something i can attach on top to make it a joy stick.
>>51668322
The < $10 4-way joysticks are just as good for home use as the happ. No where near as durable, but in a pinch, it will save some money.
>>51675115
>150$ to 300$
fug, I'm a poorfag. I was expecting something around 100$.
Never finished mine.
>>51675191
that looks kind of uncomfortable
like you'd need to bend your wrist to push the buttons
>>51675159
if you are getting one for the pc, go for the best, as it will likely last you till windows no longer is a thing.
if you are on consoles, its hard to justify the purchase unless you are big into fighting games.
that said, building one yourself is kind of easy, cheap (50-75$), it wont be pretty but it will work and there is a satisfaction in doing that.
>>51675207
No, I remember I printed some layouts and placed my hands so it would be comfortable.
Slagcoin was of great help.
>>51675159
>>51675244
>>51675068
Buy a used 360 arcade stick off of craigslist/kijiji/ebay. You should be able to get something <$100 and if it has bad parts, you can slowly replace those over time if they don't feel good.
>>51675115
>for good ones, you are looking at 150$ to 300$
Absolute horseshit.
Anybody that is playing shmups is playing on PCs or older consoles, and you can find good joysticks for less then $100 very easily.
>>51675506
anything that is universally called good costs bare minimum 150, you could get used ones that are good, but nothing new under 150 is worth looking at unless you build it yourself.
>>51675582
You're gonna spend at least $150 if you build it yourself and you want to actually use the end result.
>>51675631
no, the parts are fairly cheap, and if i use something like ply wood, i got a cheap base, put a print out graphic on top and put some plexiglass down and you are set.
buttons are something like 1-3$ each and you need 8, a joystick is 15-30 and the board you hook shit to is 25-30
sub 75 is possible, and i said above, i wanted to try and make an entire joystick out of cherry switches, which can be had for 50 cents in bulk. the hardest part will be making the joystick
>>51672553
It's a bunch of particle board (cabinet side) cut up and fitted with glue and dowels. Plus a metric tonne of epoxy and sawdust filler on the edges. Plenty labour intensive but solid.
The artwork is a printout on photo paper sealed in about ten coats of clear lacquer. Had to chase the edges with cyanoacrylate as they were prone to fraying at first.
>>51675582
No, you are full of shit. You do not need to buy new, and even if you do there are options.
Arcade sticks are built to last, and even if they have a small issue you can correct that issue without discarding the rest of the stick. They are one of the most easily repaired items in the world.
Right here is a fine arcade stick for $100 shipped.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mad-Catz-Street-Fighter-x-Tekken-Fightstick-for-PS3-/121826916426?hash=item1c5d73384a:g:oxwAAOSwjVVVpRwR
And if you look around you can do even better than this. It's a cake walk to swap out the joystick in some of those Korean and Chinese arcade sticks and replace it with an LS-32 or JLF. If you go that route you can have a great joystick for about $70, using all brand new parts.
>>51675827
Thanks for the reply, sounds more complicated than I expected.
![20140510_142517_CHP+Officer+John+Bailey+Memorial+Fwy_HDR[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cJJCMO7.jpg "20140510_142517_CHP+Officer+John+Bailey+Memorial+Fwy_HDR[1].jpg")
>>51675631
Also untrue.
There are several people who will sell you a basic blank joystick case for about $30. You can then install your own encoder PCB (you'll save money by soldering it together from a kit). This shouldn't cost more than another $30 for a basic model. New joystick and buttons will be another $30*.
Beware of joystick/button reseller sites on the internet that jack up the prices on these things. Get on shoryuken.com or shmups and get in the community and you will find much, much better prices.
*You can get a very good deal by asking on the forums if anyone has Hori parts to sell. Often people will upgrade stock hori sticks to all Sanwa/Seimitsu and their old Hori parts will be sitting on a shelf. These are high quality parts on their own and are fine for casual arcade-style gaming all the way up to the semi-pro level.
>>51671169
I took this old Tekken Stick for PS2 and applied a new overlay, and installed a Sanwa JLF. Photo is several years old, can't even remember what happened to the thing.
>>51676894
Can I use cherry mx blue switches in mine?
My old MAS stick. It has been through many battles across the USA.
On about its fourth set of guts and 2nd or 3rd set of joystick+buttons. I should really get around to cleaning it up and putting a xbox 360 pcb in there...
>>51675068
>tfw gondola has no arms ;_;
>>51676951
I don't see anything stopping you.
>>51675159
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hori-Real-Arcade-Pro-VX-SA-KAI-Fight-Stick-Xbox-360-/331722839131?hash=item4d3c38d45b:g:r40AAOSwo0JWNkkQ
Right here, under $100. The main thing with a shmup is you want a fairly large stick with a stiff joystick with as little dead zone/throw distance as possible. The buttons don't matter so much, in fact you don't really want the Sanwa buttons. You want something stiffer that will last longer.
>>51674974
Just buy a ps2 to USB adapter. Also holy shit dude. What the fuck is that thing
>>51675191
Like did you not finish the decorations or are the inner workings not full laid out. Looks pretty solid you ask me desu senpai
>>51674974
>i know its not good but i would still like to get it to work on the pc... anyone know how?
It is worthless. The joystick uses rubber membranes instead of switches to record input.
You would do better to buy a mayflash joystick than use that.
For people looking for a cheap stick
You can buy all the parts for less than 75 dollars just buy the parts and slap em on anything. I've seen a guy play at a tournament with a pizza Hut box. My fighting game buddy told me about a dude he knew that slapped buttons on some Tupperware. You don't need an expensive case to get your stick to function
>>51677303
I just want something that I can toss around and won't fall apart because it was just a funny novelty build used only once for some get together.
>>51657636
Never cared for fight sticks. Just use a 360 controller with some custom domed thumbsticks for PC use when it comes to 2D fighters. Works fine for me.
>>51677352
that's because you're a scrub
>>51672997
ty for being concerned about my wallet, but I really don't care. $150 for a pre-assembled 2 player stick is fine with me, even if every piece is a knock-off. it all feels great. if a button goes out or some shit I can always just replace it with happ buttons.
>tfw ps4 support but have to reconnect the stick every 8 mins
I wish someone could find a way to bypass the 8 minute bluetooth check. That or sony disables that shit and does a nice thing but that aint happening.
>>51678719
write an embedded program that randomly triggers 1 of the buttons after 7:59 of inactivity and burn it onto an AVR chip between the buttons and the actual PCB
>>51678743
*burn it onto an AVR chip and then place it between the buttons and the PCB
>>51678743
>>51678775
All signal is dropped completely once the 8 minutes are up though. Console isn't gonna be registering anything from that usb input.
>>51678809
that sounds like a major hardware flaw
>>51678837
Well it is designed to lock out controllers that aren't officially licensed by sony so in that sense it works well. There are wired controllers that work on the ps4 but I don't know if they have a bluetooth chip in them or if there's some sort of lockout method that they can bypass.
>>51678865
are you sure it's not the PCB's fault?
>>51678891
Its a universal thing shared by lots of unlicensed things, like 360 to ps4 converters for example
>>51657636
I made one from wood and a drill. 2 player, 8 buttons. Wired into a Jamma loom connected to whichever pcb I am playing at the time.
>>51677206
have a ps2 to usb, the thing is not recognized that way.
>>51677291
well aware its not good, would still like to get it to work at the very least.
I've been wanting to build a fight stick with a raspi or small pc in it with av out for playing gauntlet on tv
I can fashion together my own circuits no problem, I just don't know to work with wood or whatever.
I don't even have any power tools.
>>51667459
My favorite pad is the Sega Saturn pad, which was conveniently released as a USB controller a few years ago.
If I were to make my dream controller, I'd marry the Saturn thumbpad to the PS-style button placement.
I have a Hori Fighting Edge.
Its nice, and works great, but a part of me wishes I had gotten somethibg less fancy and more easily customizable.
