>1TB now takes up this much physical space
>>51625176
So this is the power of... SSD...
>>51625176
Actually it's not that big look at all the wasted space on that board...
>>51625176
Yup. And it can still get smaller than that, amazingly.
>>51625208
Not bad, not bad at all.
back in my day we had 100MB hard drives and WE LIKED IT damn whippersnappers these days, why i had to download grainy artifacted jpgs at 28.8kbps and when someone called our house phone i would get kicked off the internet, AND I HAD TO SHARE THE COMPUTER WITH MY FAMILY so hiding porn became an art form. where was i? oh yeah, linux is for fags and so is osx and windows too, all operating systems suck but especially your mother, what a lousy lay.
Why did games get so big, so quick?
>>51625208
..................waoah.......
>>51625271
Because people nowadays tend to have larger hard drives than they used to and developers got lazy and decided that this mean they didn't need to do compression anymore.
>>51625254
>>51625302
Texture size, and therefore filesize, increase at an exponential rate, because acceptable texture resolutions are in powers of 2.
Image data is already highly compressed, so they resemble totally random data, which has been mathematically proven to be impossible to compress.
>>51625271
Because 20 GB of uncompressed audio.... which is close to 33.8 hours of CD quality (44100 hz, 16 bits per channel)
Actually, these where made over a year ago.
>>51625416
Two of the bare NAND cells on the SSD are actually smaller than two of those. Consider that an SD card is literally a bare flash cell plus firmware, and the SSD can be considered more compact.
>>51625222
>wasted space on that board
it's a multilayer PCB bro
Forgive me if I am acting retarded but wont these things heat up a lot?
the information is stored on extremely small space in these micromicro terabyte storage >>51625176 >>51625416
dont SSDs need a fan of their own soon
>>51625469
The new samsung 950 Pro's heat up a lot. They have an operating temperature of like 50-70c, which is hilarious considering most boards have thier m.2 slot right where a GPU would go.
>>51625515
>hilarious considering most boards have thier m.2 slot right where a GPU would go
Why is that hilarious
>>51625254
My Uncle bought a Compaq luggable 286. He ordered it with, I believe, a twenty megabyte hard drive.
The guy at the shop said, "wow! What are you going to do with all that space?!"
I later inherited it off him. Pretty sure it was identical to this image. Also, I think it had an extended memory board. The 80286 processor supported > 640kb of RAM, but IIRC there was expanded and extended memory. One required the 286 to be put into a different mode. The other used proprietary APIs to access the expansion memory.
DEVICE=C:\HIMEM.SYS
>>51625530
>why is it funny that we're putting a thing that generates 70c heat next to a thing that also generates 70c of heat.
>>51625176
Not for long term storage though, SSD's lose data when unpowered.
Now how much is it?
>>51625416
>>51625449
pic related, this 1TB SSD is the size of two regular SD cards. plus a little extra.
There are NAND chips littered around the top and bottom of the PCB, so it is a bit thicker.
>>51625598
I would ask you to provide proof of your claims, but I know you'll just dodge with bullshit.
So fuck off.
>>51625693
He's right.
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/solid-state-drives/ssd-750-spec.html
Check "section 2.6 Data Reliability"
After completely wiping out all of its wipes, an (Intel) SSD will be able to keep all of its data for up to 3 months after being unplugged.
Obviously if you keep it plugged in, it will retain it forever. Frankly, this information is literally useless to anyone except people who might be taking these SSDs out of computers.
>>51625761
>>51625693
>>51625598
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the-truth-about-ssd-data-retention
>If you buy a drive today and stash it away, the drive itself will become totally obsolete quicker than it will lose its data.
>>51625254
FUCK YOU. IN MY DAY WE ONLY NEEDED AN ABACUS AND A BIBLE.
>Mostly a bible.
>>51625854
So the moral of the story is to not buy any SSDs for the next ten years.
>>51625253
Nice timing, just finished watching that.
>>51625568
nVidia SSDs when/
>>51625854
>obsolete mean unusable
typical nerdtalk
>>51625176
One swing of a hammer and you can destroy your entire CP collection when the feds pound on the door.
>>51625761
this might be actually useful in some cases
>store illegal content on ssd
>cops get you, they seize the pc
>slow authorities, takes more than 3 month to get you to court
>lawyer asks to prove data was on PC
>ssd empty
In phones when
>>51625176
There are 512gb sd cards and 200gb microsd. Also there is a 16tb ssd.
>>51626514
When Apple decides charging $2000 for a phone is acceptable, and other manufactures follow
Or just get a phone with an SD slot and be done with it. Phones already support a theoretical 4TB SD card capacity.
>>51625271
dem textures, mane
>>51626528
I thought SDXC had a 2TB max
>>51626584
I might be wrong, I remember reading that somewhere though. They might have been talking about OTG.
Still though, flagships seem to support around 200gb, which is more than enough in a phone
>>51626528
Samsung and Apple already use something close to these. Only a matter of time before Samsung makes a 2TB phone since Apple is fine with 16GB. Of course,it'll probably cost $1500.
>>51626034
>So the moral of the story is to not buy any SSDs for the next ten years.
Does your stupidity cause physical pain?
>>51626528
You get those samsung evos for 300 buckeroos, wonder where you get the rest of your 2000 dollars cost from. Must be the glorious fuckin apple logo.
>>51626878
>wonder where you get the rest of your 2000 dollars cost from
Do you actually have a mental deficiency?
They're already selling iPhones for $1300. Of course they'd markup a 500gb or 1TB phone ridiculous amounts, no matter how much it cost them to purchase.
And people will pay for it, because people are morons.
>>51626503
Would cops realise you need to plug it in yet?
>>51625222
>>51625464
and 1/2 them are shielding bra
>>51625208
>>51626965
not sure.
read a story once that cops seized a quite big torrent server. they had to take it back to the original place cause they couldn't power it on with the regular power network they had as it used some factory grade high voltage shit
>>51625254
Fucking newfag, worked on a Data General Nova 800, had a 1,500kByte hard disk, and 16K of RAM.
Got the boys down in the lab to wire me up a ADC so I could connect a camera tube.
Made a 1MP digital camera with the thing back in 1973.
Not even to make a camera, but to wright image sharpening software. Running at 200KHz.
Took all night to take a photo, a week to sharpen it.
Then Kodak went and sold the fucking patents to Fuji.
>>51626978
Fuck off tumblr.
>>51626854
>getting baited THIS hard
>>51625271
I'm pretty sure a lot of games got so big to prevent piracy.
>>51626099
>the throughput of data from a PCIE SSD X16 board...
>Instant everything
>...
>defective clusters everywhere because muh 1.7 woodscrews
My biggest worry remains on the durability of SSD and the limited read/write cycles to like, several thousands. Which is planned obsolescence and means a SSD has a shorter lifespan than a mechanical drive...
>>51625254
>AND I HAD TO SHARE THE COMPUTER WITH MY FAMILY so hiding porn became an art form
I know the feel.
>>51625176
What is this? SSD without the box?
>>51625271
Supposed piracy prevention.
>>51625536
I've got a very similar setup in my IBM AT PC.
Intel aboveboard with 1.2Mb of extended memory, I believe its exposed through a 64kb window that can be shifted around the EMS.
I've also got a Seagate ST225 hard disk installed which is also 20mb (and still working perfectly)
>>51625176
If i bought one of these, i'm gonna backup everyday..
i'm worried it's gonna fail and ruin my job.
Although, my plextor is still good.
>>51625620
Not to mention the ssd rapes the sd in performance
>>51625271
Still remember the upgrade from 20GB to 40GB and then I stretched the partition across for 60GBs, it blew my mind.
Now I'm running an 8TB RAID 5.
>>51625254
>god damn i feel old
First computer I touched was an Apple IIe in 2nd grade.
First computer I owned was a C64 with a Datasette drive and B&W TV (3rd grade).
Next computer I owned was a Mac Plus with 20 MB HD. System 6, Hypercard, and Microsoft Works...fucking drive had a ton of space left. I upgraded that Plus myself to 2.5 MB, nearly shit myself when it started sad Mac because I forgot to clip a resistor.
First nude I saw on a computer was a grainy B&W of Tasha Yar on a Star Trek TNG Hypercard stack that my friend gave me. That card was a hidden Easter Egg you had to find yourself.
>i didn't want these feels
And it's box still takes %70 space.
>>51625271
Because both Xbone and PS4 uses Blu ray now.
>>51626503
Digital Forensics typical clone the drive within a VERY short period (easily within a 1 month window)
>>51628365
>Then Kodak went and sold the fucking patents to Fuji.
kek
>>51625176
My first PC back in like '96 or so had a 3.5GB hard drive, and that was apparently massive at the time, according to the salespeople at Gateway. It blow my mind on a fairly regular basis just how small a space we can cram hundreds of times as much storage as that old 3.5GB drive into. I bought a 64GB flash drive a couple years ago just because I thought it was cool.
A 1TB tiny ass SSD seems like something that shouldn't even exist.
>>51626034
The moral is never buy technology because as soon as you do, it's obsolete and you need to replace it.
>>51625416
But incredibly slow.
>>51625365
>44100 hz
do they even 96000 khz?
>>51630836
First computer I touched was a Windows 3.1 machine back in the early 90's.
The next one was a Win95 machine followed by '98
I don't recall the specs on the '95 machine but the '98 machine had 512M ram and a 20G HDD, good old Pentium 4 266MHz or something around there.
Had a boost / turbo button that did something or rather.
I used the Win98 machine all the way from 2000 to 2008 where I upgraded to an XP desktop and Vista laptop
I've since gone through a new or upgraded machine roughly every two-three years since.
Current PC has 16GB RAM, AMD 4GHz 8 core processor and a stack of HDDs totally something around 7-11 TB (depending if you include the external HDD)
>>51625176
Samsung has a 16TB in a 2.5" enclosure.
>>51625176
349.99 USD
>>51631014
>'98 machine had 512M ram and a 20G HDD, good old Pentium 4 266MHz or something around there
surely you jest anon. 266mhz sounds more like a PII, not a P4, also 512MB ram was a fuckton for win98
>revise your shit mang
>>51625176
>>51625176
I was going to get that SSD for my new build. But after reading:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9248/the-truth-about-ssd-data-retention
I've decided not to, I easily fill a 500GB drive and then delete everything and get a whole new set of movies and games and fill it back up again. Which would mean, the SSD write endurance would be exceeded. I also have a high temperature environment.
So nope, I don't want data being lost within weeks. I'll take the 30% slower game loading time HDDs.
>>51631107
this.
>>51631107
That's why I only have an SSD for boot, and hard drives for everything else.
>>51631027
I'm sure it's totally stable and doesn't fry itself the more you use it, at all.
>>51631091
>zip diskette
Can someone post that image with all the different names of USB drives?
>>51628365
epic greybeard fag. Fun old days when I made a living installing Apple 3 and their 5 Mbyte HDD winchester (big 40 x 40 x 15 cm boxes).
>>51631107
>>51631113
>>51631394
>muh endurance
This drve was supposed to be notoriously bad for large writes due to it being almost first gen and shoitty controllers but no fucks given. I've tortured this thing in many different machines and has yet to kick up a fuss.
>>51632374
15Tb written btw
IT'S A MEME GAY FAGGOT NIGGER
SPENDING MONEY ON INCREMENTALLY SUPERIOR TECHNOLOGY IS A MEME
GOOD GOYIM BOW TO THE SOLID STATE JEW
C U C K E D T B H F A M S M H
>>51629911
noice
real keyboard
and when seagate was good
>>51632893
>>real keyboard
it's a Model F, which is actually even nicer than a Model M, believe it or not. Buckling spring over capacative, instead of buckling spring over membrane. The Model M was a cost-reduction thing from the Model F switches. XT boards won't work on modern systems but AT boards can be used easily with an AT-PS2 adapter, which are still fairly simple to find.
>>51631089
actually 512MB was so much in the Win98 days that that was the maximum amount of memory 98 could handle before some things (notably it's disk-caching mechanism) broke. Turn a few switches and it'd run though. Unlike anything in the NT lineage, 98 was also happy to run with no swap file, and was mighty fast, too, if you gave it enough memory. Then again, it was Windows 98, so if you did that and then ran yourself out of memory the system fell in a crumpled heap.
>>51628365
>I'm a toilet scrubber
>>51625854
>>51631006
>Thinking just because its not bleeding edge means it is obsolete
>>51625176
>Piña dulce
Holly shit, buy it
>>51629911
beautiful...
>>51625254
>when someone called our house phone i would get kicked off the internet
heh
back in dialup days, my family had two phone lines, one for internet, one for calling
>>51625536
>The guy at the shop said, "wow! What are you going to do with all that space?!"
to be fair, on a 286-era machine, I dunno what I'd do with all that space, unless I had several big software suites installed to the HDD, it wouldn't be like I'd be able to fill it up any other way
it's kind of like having more than 16MB RAM on a machine running Windows 3.1, there's a tiny handful of situations where it'd matter and general use wouldn't put a dent in it
>>51630836
with System 6, the Mac Plus was so nice
System 7 technically supports the thing, but it's damn near unusable slow on a Plus (it really wants a machine that's twice as fast, minimum) and uses an awful lot of HDD space.
which is a shame, since System 7 is practically a modern OS, at least in terms of UI
>>51633924
512MB RAM was a lot for a while. Hell, even when I had my Win2k laptop from 2001 (PIII at 850MHz, 512MB RAM, 10GB HDD), it was years before I even considered the possibility of ever needing more.
That 10GB HDD hurt like hell though, particularly once I got high speed internet in like 2006/7 and wanted to torrent shit (ended up downloading 320x240 movies and immediately deleting them after watching because I didn't have the space to keep them).
that machine was a work laptop my dad gave to me in 2003 or 4 after he got his new one (1GB RAM, 30GB HDD, some Pentium M at 1.2GHz or so)
>>51630836
i too grew up with Apple IIe's from 2nd grade through 5th.
>those feels when you boot up oregon trail and listen to the floppy drive motors crank away
Faawck *_*
>>51632100
>40 x 40 x 15 cm
>15cm
You young punks, don't know how big a true mini is.
Wish I still had this thing. Fucking kodak suppressing digital because "It'll hurt film sales, huur".
Fucking steamrolling their whole building in 2003.
I want my nova back.
>>51632435
Eh, I've got 25TB of writes on a 120GB drive. 15 writes isn't all that much.
>>51635284
Retired in 84, been shitposting ever since.
Kodak payed me well.
>MFW I've been lurking at every major point in the Internets history, going long before BBS's where remotely popular.
>>51635284
tell me more, genuienly interested
>>51637493
Dammit grandpa, shouldn't you go and play with your grandchildren?
>>51625176
Try putting four of those on a single PCIe 4x card for ultimate lulz.
4TB of full-speed SSD RAID0 storage without wasting a single SATA port.
>>51637636
I'm not a fucking toilet scrubber, I worked for Kodak back in the 50's-70's.
Was a farmboy, decided chemistry was more fun than cows, so I went into the big city to go to uni.
After, kodak hired me as a chemical engineer.
Worked on a couple things, different mixes for developing solutions/film itself.
Solved a few problems, an example, kodak not being to get glue for slides into my country from the US, so I had to work out a formula from local chemicals.
Every slide in my country from the mid 60's onwards was made with my mix.
This make Kodak happy.
After that, I noticed the US-built machines to place, cut out and stamp film into slides was horribly slow, I revamped the design so it's place film more accurately, but more importantly that rather than the operator (Usually an unskilled woman) manually placing the film, then checking if it's good, and if so pressing a button, all she had to do was press a stop button every time the film WASN'T aligned.
When the Americans heard about some little chemical engineer in Aus fucking with their machines they shipped me over, I showed them my design, and after much yelling on both sides they replaced every machine in the world with my design (Once they could find someone who made suitable motors en masse).
Wait a year, things got a little more automated, but the (America) software on some machines where shit, so I decided to rewrite it from scratch. Cue more angry Americans.
"How the hell did some random chemist rewrite this program we payed some guy a million dollars to write for us, and how is it possibly better?"
Back in the plain with my stacks of tape and punchcards.
I got back, and at this point management basically changed my job description to "We'll just pay you anyway, do whatever you want but what you make is ours".
They kept me around to fix the occasional thing.
Cont...
>>51626967
ground planes aren't wasted space
> you weren't born in 2200 when you could download the entirety of human knowledge (including all films, albums, television shows, etc) to your phone.
>>51628365
Fucking old school. Mad respect. I often wonder what it would have been like to work on machines like that, where you had to know your shit to use them. Now half my time at work is spent cleaning up shitty Excel spreadsheets that people use to do horrible analyses on components.
>>51638056
did I say they were?
>>51631836
Enjoy, newfriend :^)
What about future 3D NAND? Will we get petabytes into a standard form factor?
>>51638170
>no "junk drive" like I hear all the time.
It belongs in the Elder Shit tier too.
>>51638141
I wasn't really sure what you were trying to say
>>51638041
Every now and then, management would change and would be confused as to why they where paying me for nothing. Then something would go to shit, everyone would freak out, I'd come in and fix it, and management would be happy again.
The government was trying to work out how to get color TV working in Australia (Never the Same Color Twice and whatnot) , but by the time the signal got from Melbourne to Syndey the color had shifted horribly.
They asked me to fix it, so I tried running some calculation on their mainframe.
I was hogging the things too much, so they decided to buy me my own machine.
Was a PDP or something. After a while we just said bugger it and adopted PAL.
Every TV in Australia for the next 50 years used PAL, because of me and a couple other guys.
Anyway, I was fed up with the PDP or something, I forget, so I got them to buy me a Data General Nova 800. Didn't want the 1200, I wanted FAST.
So after playing around with my new toy for a bit I decided to try and make software that sharpened an image. Only problem is I didn't have an image to sharpen.
We did have some phototubes lying around from the TV thing, so I got the nerds in the labs to build something so I could connect it to my computer.
I originally used it to scan photos taken on film, but it could take photos if I wanted. It would just be limited to my lab.
Took about a million points, or pixels today, I could take in color by doing 3 separate scans, one in each color.
Took up the whole 1.5 disk up.
Color was kinda pointless because I could only display on a persistent phosphorous screen.
Still was useful for sharpening.
Took a week to sharpen one photo.
16k of ram, had to hold the program and any data I was sharpening in this.
Wrote the entire program for capturing, sharpening, and displaying the image in machine code.
Had to go through the full Megabyte of data.
Also, naturally, had to write all the drivers myself.
Didn't even have raw disk access.
Everything was done manually.
Cont
>>51638105
It was another world. Everyone was a kernel developer. Every program you wrote was an operating system. Every program you made started with the same 30 punchcards for the disk drive and screen.
>>51638462
Cont.
Well, no.
That was basically the end.
Kodak patented all my work, paid me a hefty fortune, everyone switched to micros and I retired at 55. Here I am, 30 years later.
>>51638550
I know. I wish I could be part of that world. Too easy to be a shitty engineer now. Most of the good engineers like you are long gone and there's very few good guys left to learn from
>>51638550
Who's your favorite touhou family?
>>51625176
SSD sticks when?
>>51625271
most games aren't that big, all the 50-60gb games are actually 20-25gb at best + prerendered video and/or audio in different languages, also in game worlds are getting larger and larger, which could require more textures as to not look too repetitive
>>51639161
Search "Windows to go" ready drives.
>>51641351
>disk
>>51641351
that's a brake caliper and rotor
>>51625176
They get even smaller than that now. m.2 drives are a little thinner but also a little longer. But they also support the PCIe protocol instead of SATA. Provides speeds of almost (from what I have read) triple of what SATA III can offer.
>>51641351
It's real
>>51625530
Stab a heat pipe on it and overclock it to 9000 something for more geebees desu senpai desu baka senpai
>implying
>>51641537
How can you be this retarded
>>51629911
I bet that dot matrix is a pain in the ass.
>>51641671
I have a strong, strong urge to just press my thumb onto one of those platters.
>>51638550
Were you there for eternal september?
>>51638867
I dunno, I like Sakuya though.
>>51642330
Yes, and the next 5 of them.
We're moving further and further down, but I think it can end.
/g/, for example, feels like it's been getting far smaller recently. Perhaps that's just because the good posters left, or perhaps it's because the shitposters have moved to new ground.
>>51625365
That's not how it works
Most games have 3 hours of music tops
>>51625271
They need alot of room to fit in all of the suckiness
1tb phones when
>>51638462
Non fedora Hat tip sir
"Hey hey 16k..." - I'll try to find the link on b3ta if you like.
>>51638550
That's Awesome, respect to you man. Got any tips for a young ausfag on how to land an interesting job like that?
>>51638170
Aw, I call them thumb drives...
>>51641947
Surprisingly not, it does the job well.
Its just loud and a tad slow.
Thats only really a problem when I'm printing 7000 line reports off.
>>51625271
audio and videos. if it was textures the games would actually look good. I guess the exception would be RAGE. didn't carmack say the "true" version of that game would have had 150+GB of just textures?
>>51646829
>my computer handled RAGE textures
>can't handle fallout 4 textures
Fuck this world
>>51641890
I am become death.
So should I trash all my old chunky 1Tb HDs?
>>51646958
why would you ever throw away a working HD? get a bigass case, throw in a cheap mobo+CPU, add drives, bam! home server/htpc for all your anime needs.
>>51625271
Because if they can get away with it people are lazy shits, why bother making it small and efficient if they can just say "fuck it" and let it stay bloated before burning it to a blu-ray with gigs of extra space/
>>51646829
This is in fact true.
Console games use uncompressed audio now because BluRay space is cheap, but CPU cycles aren't.
Serves them right for going with laughably slow AMD APUs.
