What do you guys think of this build? Which 960 should I get and why?
>he didnt get DDR4 RAM
>>51623084
I'm a cheapo, that RAM comes free with the motherboard plus I'm not serious of a gamer/computer enthusiast.
>>51623084
Because that would involve changing the whole setup. Who gives a rats ass about DDR4 when you obviously choose a setup which isn't focusing on the latest and greatest? RAM speed is overrated.
>tfw the 8 gig ripjaws are all sold out now
logical increments is both a blessing and a curse
>>51623139
Then the build's fine. Also, what's your budget for the 960?
>>51623139
>blade length adjust
so why not make them super large and use them as lightsnipers
>>51623029
Swap 4690K for an E3-1231, get a cheaper board, the Gigabyte H97 mATX with 4 ram slots is alright.
Get 16gb of RAM, you won't regret it.
960 a shit, get a 380X, Sapphire's is dank
EVGA a shit, get a Seasonic or Flextronics rebrand (any XFX, Antec TruePower Classic, Corsair HX/AX, CoolerMaster V)
>>51623163
I prefer no more than $200 but an extra $50 won't kill me
>>51623029
get a 380
>>51623204
>Get 16gb of RAM, you won't regret it.
show me a screenshot of you utilizing 16gb of ram
>>51623029
>that case
Why the hell do they make that crap, but discontinue the H230? I mean, how do people even still buy that thing?
Though seriously, there are tons of better cases that you can get with $70, including the H230, which is still in stock on newegg and the s340, and that's just talking about NZXT cases.
You can get a source 220 for $50, and that's nicer.
>>51623204
Why is the E3 1231 better than the 4690k?
>>51623204
Didn't think you could OC with the H97
>>51623310
Eh, I really like the look so why not?
>>51623369
It's not, you can't over clock it at all, it used to be dirt cheap though.
>>51623411
Youre never ever going to care about the look of your desktop, which nobody is going to see ever again. It's a waste of money senpai
Cheaper to buy an already built pc
>>51623369
It's an i7 without overclocking or an integrated GPU
also support for ECC RAM but you wouldn't care about that
>>51623305
On a phone, will show 28+gb used when I get home.
Photoshop a fun
AutoCAD a fun
16gb is the new 8gb; just as 8gb became the new 4gb 4~ years ago, and 4gb became the new 2gb 4~ years before that.
Prices go down, ram quantity goes up, ain't life grand?
>>51623466
Then it'll be my waste of money ;_;
>>51623483
But why?!
>>51623489
I wasn't OP but thanks! Good to know!
>>51623029
So much hideous shit.
>retarded case
>shitty power supply
>RAM you could cut wood with
Get a Fractal Design case like an adult. Get a Seasonic power supply, since they make all the good ones anyway. Get whatever RAM, but fuck, you just look like a retard buying that flashy fake-teeth stuff.
>>51623204
>>51623489
So what's the benifit of the E3 1231 over the 4690K? I'm finding it pricier as well on Amazon and Newegg.
>>51623029
You should get the 380X version of the 960
>>51623530
But mom I wanna look cool
>>51623658
There isn't one. The Xeon is for server applications, specifically virtualization and low power consumption / heat disappation.
Just get the 4690k and a good cooler (at least a hyper212)
>>51623658
Its a 4770 non-K except no integrated GPU; while $70 cheaper
thats it
>>51623204
>>51623254
>>51623684
380 it is!
>>51623530
So how about i replace my power supply with the SeaSonic SS-500ET or the SeaSonic SS-500ES
>>51623721
The only difference between the 4770 and E3-1231 is a lack of integrated GPU, and the E3-1231 supports ECC.
>>51623742
>So how about i replace my power supply with the SeaSonic SS-500ET or the SeaSonic SS-500ES
I dunno. Do they meet your wattage requirements? If so, yes.
I switched to Seasonic and haven't looked back. Great quality, great warranty. It gets tiring replacing power supplies after three years, days after their warranty runs out.
>>51623742
>bronze
If you're actually going to buy a 500W PSU, it needs to be at least 80+ silver (or equivalent)
If you want to cheap out and get bronze or non-rated, get something rated at least 25% over requirement (eg: 650W)
>>51623742
BTW, if you aren't already, you should be checking for a power supply review on jonnyguru.com.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/g4rfQ7
Should I change anything? Basically the logical increment build with a cheaper mobo and different SSD
>>51623802
oh sweet fuck are you one of those idiots who thinks the 80 plus shit is applied to the given wattage number.
ie 0.8 * 500
because thats not how it works
it's 500 / 0.8 = wall load
>>51623860
I know.
What most people don't understand is that PSU's will degrade over time, and silver+ rated will supply cleaner power for longer, as they typically use better components. (eg. japanese caps, single rail, etc.)
A cheapo bronze or non-rated PSU might be able to supply the full 500W for at least a year, but can degrade quickly after that.
If you don't know much about PSU's then it's a good guideline to follow.
If you know exactly what you are buying, then you won't run into issues.
>>51623949
Single rail doesn't improve reliability, why are you buying into the Corsair marketing meme
Bronze are built fine mate, they'll last 4+ years long as you aren't running them close to the limit
>>51623949
That's not how it works.
For example, aywun 80+ silver psu passes the 80+ silver test, but it's got horrible ripple supression.
Check hardwareinsights if you want.
>>51623949
>and silver+ rated will supply cleaner power for longer, as they typically use better components.
Those are some random incantations there, chief.
> (eg. japanese caps,
Meme.
> single rail, etc.)
More baloney.
You're just repeating a bunch of nonsense you've read from people with no expertise in the area on various websites. You're spouting religious nonsense.
>>51624001
>>51623994
>>51623949
>>51623860
>>51623802
>>51623797
Don't worry guys I am taking notes
>>51623029
>>51623994
>4690K
>380X
If there's any overclocking involved, this thing will be on the edge of 500W
>>51623029
If anything, I would recommend the hybrid PSU's which keep the cords interchangeable incase of accidents, shorts, etc. Not to mention, if you're going with THAT build in particular, i'd have to honestly say grab a 10,000 RPM Drive just for your OS, but ALWAYS keep a SSD handy for storage, because as I saw, they've half a terabyte for around 250 Dollars in the US (Sourced from TigerDirect.)
But what cooler will you be getting? A monster-sized fan cooler? A liquid cooler?
For the 960 or r9 380:
2GB or 4GB? I'm planning to play heavy modded skyrim, Witcher 3 and Rome 2.
>>51624041
And just for correction, you can switch the two drive purposes around, but make sure EACH of them fits their size for what they're needed for.
>>51624051
8GB just to be safe. Or else you may end up using more resources and being unable to work quick enough with just 4 GBs, especially with such a load on your memory.
>>51624024
Pretty much.
I won't argue any further because we won't agree no matter what I say.
It's up to each party to do their own research and make up their own minds.
>>51624051
>modded
380. The wider bus can run high res textures through it much better.
I would advise a 780/Ti though, since ENB's play better with nVidia GPU's
>>51623169
Turn on lightsabers, 3km blade slowly starts to extend out. Your enemies just watch David Bowie's dong cross the battlefield.
>I like you anon.
>>51624051
4gb will be much better.
>>51624024
http://www.hardwareinsights.com/wp/aywun-silver-series-a1-550s-power-supply-review/2/
Read this and you'll understand that a silver psu isn't always better than an equally rated bronze psu
>>51623169
Because there's a theoretical limit to the maximum length of the sabre.
You can't suspend a field of plasma at long distances unless it's in a self-contained field, like in blaster shots.
>>51623029
>>51623029
>>51623029
>Literally the same build I'm about to get.
>>51624070
I'm asking about the graphics card memory.
>>51624076
780 is too much above my budget.
>>51624087
I'll think I'll go with that. Do games take advantage of the 4gb card?
>>51624087
>>51624076
>Thinking they're all the same
You guys are so much help,never knew there was so much variation in power supplies.
Anyone have a dirt cheap build lying around? Like, $150 or less. I already have a spare PSU and I want integrated graphics since this will just be used for dev.
>>51624191
Lots of them do.
There's a lot less fps drops according to reviews.
>>51624215
Raspberry Pi 2
>>51623029
Get the EVGA 4gb ssc 960 if you must.
>>51624215
Raspberry Pi?
>>51624191
From what I know The Witcher 3 is GPU heavy as well so that's why he recommended that.
>>51624276
I'm being told the 360 is better so I'll do my research. Both are around the same price.
>>51624314
380 is better, but if you can get a really good deal on the 960, the performance difference at 1080p is negligible.
>>51624265
>>51624314
No experience with the Raspberry Pi. Is it fast enough to act as a local web server for testing purposes?
>>51624215
Just grab a c2q and add an ssd.
>>51624210
Always look for reviews. Lower ripple means cleaner energy. Less heat better overclocking
>>51624359
It might be. If you want something better get odroid.
>>51623742
Thanks for the lovely image, anon. Saved.
>>51624359
If its pure http you'll be more than fine, run something like simplehtttpserver from pythons default package, if not setup a default apache server with w/e addons you need
>>51623658
Off-topic. Which book does that image come from?
>>51623787
>E3-1231 supports ECC.
Your average Joe doesn't need ECC
