WD SHILLS ON FUCKING SUICIDE WATCH
>muh WD drive is super reliable
>Shitgate
of course their failure rate decreases since no one is stupid enough to buy their HDDs anymore
>>51614112
>trusting the cloud storage jew
All this means is that Seagate upped their bribe above WD's.
>>51614112
>what is the bathtub curve
>>51614112
>/g/ trusts backblaze stats
Pleb tier.
>>51614276
What's wrong with their stats? They but a metric shit ton of drives, so it can't be their sample size.
>>51615046
Run consumer drives in server environments, use drives taken out of external enclosures.
Maybe Seagate drives are/were less tolerant to vibration than other brands, but that shit doesn't matter if you use the products like they're supposed to.
>>51615046
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html
so what brand do I buy if I want a cheap 1 TB hdd
>durr get an ssd instead
I am getting one but not for data hoarding
>>51614112
>Trusting people who buy wd external drives from costco and use them for storage
>>51615253
>click through 5 pages of bullshit
no thanks.
>>51615688
>oh look a pretty colorful chart! that surely means it's all 100% true facts
- you
>>51615688
If only everything could be broken down into a simple graph for the mentally retarded.
you don't buy western digital blues and greens. both of which blackblaze uses.
>>51615253
Thanks for the info. I guess that's what happens when you assume.
>>51615749
True.
>>51615688
>being this much of a faggot and idiot
>>51615253
This article is bullshit. The three actual reasons they give were "backblaze abused deals to get their drives", "early storage pods had problems with vibration", and "the drives were used for a higher workload than normal"
The first point has absolutely nothing to do with the integrity of the data. Backblaze released stats per-pod and showed that the failure rates had almost exactly the same proportions in pods with better vibration dampening, so the second point is worthless too. The third point is stupid unless you're so deluded that you think high-workload failure rates somehow won't correlate at all with normal-workload failure rates. If one kind of drive fails 10 times as often as another at high workload, it's not going to magically drop to 1:1 when you bring it down to normal workload.
And the fact that these three points were stretched into 5 pages for advertising purposes makes me think even more that this article was just made for clicks, not for accuracy.
Last europe hardware failure rates (1 October 2014 to 1 April 2015)
>Seagate 0,60% (last time 0,68%)
>HGST 0,81% (last time 1,16%)
>Western 0,90% (last time 1,09%)
>Toshiba 0,96% (last time 1,34%)
>2 To :
- 1,69% Toshiba DT01ACA200
- 1,50% WD Black WD2003FZEX
- 1,41% WD Se WD2000F9YZ
- 1,06% WD Purple WD20PURX
- 0,97% Seagate Pipeline HD ST2000VM003
- 0,94% Seagate Desktop SSHD ST2000DX001
- 0,68% WD Green WD20EZRX
- 0,65% Seagate NAS ST2000VN000
- 0,63% Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST2000DM001
- 0,59% WD Red Pro WD2001FFSX
- 0,44% WD Red WD20EFRX
- 0,41% WD RE WD2000FYYZ
- 0,24% Seagate Surveillance ST2000VX000
- 0,00% Seagate Enterprise Capacity ST
>3 To :
- 4,90% Toshiba DT01ACA300
- 1,94% WD Se WD3000F9YZ
- 1,60% WD Green WD30EZRX
- 1,31% Seagate Barracuda 7200.14 ST3000DM001
- 1,25% Toshiba PA4293E-1HN0
- 1,23% WD Red WD30EFRX
- 1,23% Seagate NAS ST3000VN000
- 1,16% WD Red Pro WD3001FFSX
- 0,94% Seagate Surveillance ST3000VX000
- 0,71% WD Black WD3003FZEX
>4 To :
- 2,86% WD Re WD4000FYYZ
- 2,23% WD Black WD4003FZEX
- 1,53% WD Green WD40EZRX
- 1,40% WD Red WD40EFRX
- 1,32% Seagate Desktop SSHD ST4000DX001
- 0,82% Seagate Constellation ES ST4000NM0033
- 0,71% Seagate Desktop HDD.15 ST4000DM000
- 0,47% Seagate NAS HDD ST4000VN000
- 0,00% HGST Deskstar 7K4000 H3IK40003272SE
- 0,00% HGST Deskstar NAS 0S03665
>5 / 6 To :
- 1,47% WD Red WD60EFRX
- 0,41% WD Green WD60EZRX
- 0,00% WD Red WD50EFRX
>>51616007
source is my ass
>>51616049
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/944-6/disques-durs.html
Since 1997...
>>51614112
So I buy a toshiba or Hitachi?
>>51616283
hitachi
>>51614112
I don't know why you idiots even care about this garbage between these two shitty seagate/wd brands when EVERY SINGLE study reveals that toshiba/hitachi/hgst are much more reliable.
I've always pointed it out on any build thread but idiots still keep recomending western digital drives because some fucktard at reddit told them to buy one, so they carry the message forward.
>>51614112
seagate failures go down cuz no one uses em kek
>>51616503
Backblaze only buys the cheapest stuff on the market, which would be Seagate in that case.
b-but i just bought a western digital hard drive for cyber monday ;_;7
>>51616799
RIP
>>51616354
yea I too grew tired of showing all the charts pointing WD shitty failure rates
depressing
just let them be happy with their garbage
>>51616799
That's what you get for being stupid, idiot
I'm using two 2TB WD Red drives in my PC, both of which are working fine.
However, I had two WD Black drives fail within a week of getting them...
>>51614144
Well the graph refers to failure rate in % so wouldn't change a thing.
>>51616913
It is depressing indeed because I just can't understand what makes people talk about things they don't know about while making it seem they are dead sure on what they're saying, when in reality they are just being parrots. People have such a loud mouth over things they know nothing about. It feels like saying "I don't know" is almost impossible nowadays.
>>51617112
I guess this behaviour is exacerbated by the anonymity
>>51617145
Yeah, that's probably the thing. But what makes me mad as all fuck is that I see people that are like trying really hard to save whatever penny they might have and then asshole fuckwad comes in and makes them waste money. It's specially maddening because I have already been led into making poor purchase choices and had to learn the hard way that 90% of what you see online is sheer unadultered bullshit.
I've yet to be dissatisfied with Western Digital Drives.
Unfortunately I have a stack of Seagates that say otherwise.
>>51617240
I got tired of all the shilling when I was collecting parts for a new build. I opened up my 10 year old daily driver/ toaster, and found an Hitachi 360gb. Working without fault for 10 years or so. Now I have a new 2tb enterprise HGST, couldn't be happier.
So /g/, between a Seagate and Western Digital, which should i get? And green or blue?
Hitachi/HGST and WD black are too overpriced here in Brazil.
>>51617453
HELP ME /g/!
>>51614144
your comment is so stupid, it killed some of may brain cells. kill yourself before it's too late.
>>51617453
wd blue
>>51614112
they have always been shit
i remember back in the day having my 1GB caviar shit the bed on me
then another one , 40 gig caviar
when i had a cheap ass maxtor drive i put in at the same time give no problem
C U C K BLAZE
Seagate has never failed me. Some.of my WD has started clicking.
>>51614112
When you hit rock bottom, the only way you can go is up. Seagate is still horrid.
>>51619830
>Backblaze
lel
I'm getting a WD Element 2 TB ext hd. Should I not?
>>51615705
>More words = more truth
>>51615872
>complaining about advertising
>while defending Backblaze
oh the ironing
>>51620224
i got a wd elements 2tb drive 3 years ago and it's already dead. i'm going with hitachi from now on
If toshiba, Hitachi, and HGST drives are more reliable, how come everybody and their mom uses WD and seagate?
>>51621589
people only use seagate because they're cheap and in every other prebuilt.
wd is just brand loyalty because they used to make the best drives with samsung and samsung went to shit.
>>51614112
nobody bought seagate anymore, no wonder they could not fail.
common sense, it's good to keep it upgraded.
>>51614144
Do you know how percentage works?
I never even heard of HGST?
>>51621781
>Hitachi Global Storage Technologies
It's now a subsidiary of WD
>>51621781
it's hitachi's new name
>>51614112
>>51614112
isnt HGST under WD company?
isnt Toshiba only external HDD maker and their storage hdds are under Verbatim?
Hard drive preference is incredibly anecdotal.
People buy a brand, have a bad experience, then discount those drives as shit forever.
>>51614112
>tfw you had 2 corrupted seagate hard drives in this year alone
>>51623097
I accidentally defragged my Seagate SSD last night and that shit broke from it lel.
>>51614112
>posting backblaze meme graphs unironically
>>51614112
I think that, since they now own HGST, they're shifting the more reliable drives to that brand, and making the WD consumer brand cheaper, but also less reliable.
>>51614112
nice. i recently bought a 32 tb seagate drive and after seeing this im glad i did.
im happy i didnt fall for the >seagate meme
>>51623689
BUTTHURT WDFAG DETECTED
>>51614112
WDC is intentionally lowering their quality to make sure people pay premium to buy the expensive HGST drives.
Drop in WDC quality coincides with WDC completing acquisition of HGST and stopping production of low-end HGST products.
>>51623097
>have one 2 year old WD going strong
>have one 2 year old seagate going strong
>have one 4 year old seagate going strong
Maybe I've been lucky, but I've never had a hard drive fail on me yet
>>51621589
>how come everybody and their mom uses WD and seagate?
Untrue, everybody on /g/ and leddit uses WD/Seagate.
Shit tons of normal people use HGST/Hitatchi/Toshiba because they come with their computers.
>mfw Toshiba master race
> have my '04 WD drives still running fine.
> /g/ tells me that, in fact, i am wrong
Same as --
> use mainline BitTorrent client since beta version, in 2009
> never had a problem with the software, never had the program crash, etc
> once again, people can't believe i use it because it's shit
lol, /g/ you have so much wisdom
>>51622741
>Hard drive preference is incredibly anecdotal.
>People buy a brand, have a bad experience, then discount those drives as shit forever.
So true.
The moral of the story is, don't trust all your data to a single point of possible failure.
OR
Your shitty anime wasn't worth saving anyway, you fucking basement dweller.
>>51624216
that is one rare pepe can i have it
>>51624235
It's all yours
are 2.5" hard drives shit?
>>51624221
Apply auto-finalization anytime, waste of oxygen.
Reminder that the river ends at the sea.
>>51624221
> have my '04 WD drives still running fine.
> /g/ tells me that, in fact, i am wrong
8% of WD drives fail != all WD drives fail
>2015
>not designing a fault-tolerant system
Hard drive failures should be accepted as inevitable, but it shouldn't matter. Space is fucking cheap.
Your only excuses are a laptop that only can hold a single drive or a seriously low budget build.
In any desktop build, if a single failed drive means anything worse than "looks like I'll have to wait 15 minutes to decompress my backups, better grab some lunch, then I can get back to sorting my horse porn collection and order a replacement drive at my earliest convenience" then you're fucking up.
>>51624693
>horse porn collection
>tfw WD Blue 500GB HDD suddenly has 12 unstable sectors on it
>tfw it's part of 3HDD Raid 1
>>51621589
Because it's cheap.
