Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners.
There are three ways to try Linux, you can:
1) Install a Linux OS on a VM (Virtual Machine/VirtualBox) for "safety purposes"
2) Use the Live ISO directly without installing anything, that way, you can get a "full Linux experience".
3) Go balls deep and overwrite everything with Linux (not recommended)
If you are serious about switching to Linux and if you have Windows dual-booted (recommended for pure newbies), we recommend you use it exclusively for 2 weeks, and avoid Windows dual booting for that period of time, or it's likely you will start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to Linux as your new home and working onmaking it feel the way you want it.
>Recommended for beginners:
-*buntus except vanilla Ubuntu (Unity)
-Debian (For Broadcom devices, use an ISO that includes non-free firmware)
-openSUSE
-LinuxMint (a.k.a Ubuntu LTS + Cinnamon)
Before asking, please find the answers to your questions in resources.
Please be civil, notice the "Friendly" in every Friendly Linux Thread.
Understand that much of your software from Windows will be unavailable, although maybe wine can make up for it.
Resources:
man <insert command here>
your friendly neighborhood search engine
>>>/g/sqt
https://www.codecademy.com/en/courses/learn-the-command-line
https://wiki.archlinux.org/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/
Why would anyone reccomend Debian for beginners? It's only good for servers, takes way too much effort to get a usable desktop OS out of it.
>>51595646
Debian comes with pre-configured DEs, dumbass.
>>51595646
It's good for servers and data collection by the NSA, since they own Debian
>>51595688
How does the NSA own Debian?
I know they own RedHat...
>>51595646
you forgot to mention how old the packages and the kernel is
but then they start talking about debian testing
well I dont see OP recommending debian testing
>>51595730
I recommend Debian testing
>>51595752
we talk about OP text
>Why would anyone reccomend Debian for beginners?
I've been using Mint for a long while now and it's good but I want to go to the next level when I get a new computer.
I though Debian would be good but then again I was also thinking of just going all out and giving Arch or Gentoo a try.
>>51595670
A DE is bare minimum functionality. Then your have to fuck about with adding repos, updating packages to versions from this decade, fixing the horrible font rendering, etc etc.
Is this actually true? I'm using Antergos and never had any crashes or package problems. I would like to get a response from an Arch user.
>>51595807
>Adding repos
oh no I'm too stupid to visit source file generator and literally COPY AND PASTE
>updating packages
oh no I have to type apt-get update :(
>fixing horrible font rendering
oh no I'm too stupid to type apt-get install infiniality
:(
>>51595844
It's a fucking meme. Antergos is literally Arch.
>>51595804
They're literally all the same.
>>51595868
Yeah, I know. It's like 95% Arch with an added antergos repo. But I've never really installed vanilla Arch and I was wondering if it's exactly the same.
>>51595844
No, the image was probably made by some butthurt fag that couldn't get arch installed.
Antergos is literally arch with an extra repro for their maintained packages (i.e. their tools). You can disable the repro and have a completely vanilla arch install.
>>51595891
Well, you can install Architect which is Arch easy-mode.
>>51595891
The main difference is the installation process. Once that's over it's probably about the same
>>51595915
I did that, but only in a vm.
>>51595807
>updating packages to versions from this decade,
You're not using netinst?
Did anyone by any chance saved those comics about arch and other OSs?
>>51595891
And even if the difference was only 0.00000001%, it still wouldn't be exactly the same.
>>51595965
>>51595844
I've broken X more times in Mint than Antergos.
>>51595854
None of that is new user friendly. They expect a GUI package manager and for shit to just werk.
I'm not saying it's a bad distro by any means, just that it does not belong in the same category as mint and *buntu.
>>51595965
I love those comics. I'll post some.
>>51595891
Antergos installer is terrible but the overall system looks good but you can add the repo to arches pacman.conf and have it, I say Arch would be one of the top distros for personal use unless it is a struggle getting it t work due to drivers or lack of knowledge.
>>51596006
I guess proprietary graphic card drivers or kernel update. Am I right?
>>51596014
There are people who want to switch to Linux who aren't allergic to CLI and do not care about GUI package managers.
>>51596014
>implying it doesn't have synaptic
>implying it doesn't have GNOME store
>oh no new users can't use keyboard! :c
>FREE distro doesn't belong in same category as BOTNET distros
no shit sherlock
>>51595908
So, there would be no real benefit in installing vanilla Arch then, right?
Can someone link a good tutorial for installing Arch. Video tutorial would be nice maybe. I've tried so many times already. Maybe i should shoot my self.
>>51595965
>>51596057
Can't even recall to be honest. One time it was definitely due to a kernel update but the rest were probably my fault.
I'm just saying, stuff breaks as long as you want to mess with stuff for no reason.
>>51596077
You get leet points for /bst/shit.
If you want a rock-solid UNIX based system, then your choice is OS X or suicide.
>>51596126
well shilled friend.
apple stopped giving a shit about muh unix long time ago.
>>51596102
https://youtu.be/sWR4qWsudwg
Hahaha, i get it! It's because wangblows is a botnet, hahaha! What a nice meme m8, upboated xD
>>51595991
>>51596026
>>51596103
Thanks anons , these are golden
>>51596126
BSD ripoff you mean? :^)
>>51596144
>>51596170
>Gaynoo lunix fags getting this mad
HAHA
Go back to fixing bugs and writing hello world programs you degenerates
>>51596163
>>51596163
I uploaded all of those.
Why are these threads always started with such cringey pictures?
>any year
>Linux
It's like you guys don't have any lives so you just spend hours of your life fixing some unusable system right?
You're not special nor interesting. Just a bunch of fucking losers.
im gonna be super cool and install solaris and then go to a starbucks while making sure everyone can see my screen and wonder what the fuck is going on.
>>51596238
I bet you run Windows on your Server :^)
>>51596236
Hey, at least Linux is over the "anal sex with Windows mascot" phase. Unsurprisingly enough, BSD has picked up some slack in that.
>>51596238
lol are you seriously this delussional or just baiting? I make money on my Xubuntu. Problem?
>>51596145
Ew architect. Done that ar
>>51596269
>running linux on the desktop is the same as a headless server
>m-muh false equivilency
fucking faggot
>>51596279
Whatever you're doing there could be done 1000 times faster and better on any non-retarded OS like OSX or Windows, nerd.
>>51596346
Nah, I can't compile my shit on OS X or Windows. They're unreliable unless you use some bloat.
>>51596368
I was talking about desktop Linux, not servers.
Linux on servers is what it was originally designed for, but it's still a disaster.
>>51596236
It's a joke with resemblance in reality.
How exactly is it cringey?
>>51596394
>I was talking about desktop Linux
You really think I compile my code in a fucking server and not a desktop Linux?
>>51596394
>it's still a disaster
And how was Windows Server reliable?
I see indians have finally arrived ITT.
Must have been a shift change at microsoft india or something like that.
Post poo outside the loo so our shilling friends feel right at home.
>>51596466
चुप रहो, तुम मेरे लोगों को परेशान कर रहे हैं!
>>51596427
And that's what you do all day? Fucking neet.
>>51596427
That guy doesn't have a clue what hes trolling about
>>51595844
mfw my arch install never breaks and I never do any maintenance
also
>2001+14.9
>caring about what distro people use
>>51596492
Sorry I don't speak microsoftish.
>>51596596
I don't really bash people for using other distros tho. I was just wondering if there would be any real benefit in installing vanilla Arch and apparently there's not.
>>51596585
>>I compile my code
>>I made codes
>Fucking neet
You think I code for hobby and not for a living? I'm out then.
>>51596623
The only reason I use arch is because of yaourt. Seeing a cool project on github and just being able to do `yaourt -Sy {project name}` is pretty neat. Also having the abillity to install git HEAD versions of projects saved my ass more then once. (mono implementing .net 4.5 reflection a day before my presentation for example)
Mac OS has a similar thing called homebrew
>>51596596
actually its 2001+14,83
>>51596368
>>51596427
what can't you compile exactly?
autistics fags
So, long term should i be bothering with dual boot or just use a windows VM?
i'm building a rig with a peculiar setup and VGA passthrough is going to be a pain in the ass and no guarantee (UHD plus a QHD on an IGP).
however if i am doing 2 OSes i'll want a volume that both windows and linux can touch, and i'm worried about Ext2Fsd screwing something up
>>51596784
What do you need Windows for?
>>51596962
Fallout 4 kek
>>51597047
>Games
Dual-boot
>>51597060
>Games
Kill yourself.
I just installed arch and I can't even sign in using SLiM. What kind of cruel joke is this
>>51597092
What else would people want to use Windows for?
It's either games or some special proprietary piece of software many people have no use for anyway.
>>51597113
>he fell for the linux meme
HAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHHA
>>51597118
The point of my post is that people who play video games are fucking immature highschool fuckups and the last place they should be is on gnu/linux os.
>>51596014
A new user coming to linux has to hit the CLI at some point and if they can't there are certainly GUI alternatives
Ubuntu/Mint is for people who don't care
Debian is for people who kind of care
Arch/Gentoo is for people who really care
Please refer to the above before you talk down distro recommendations.
>>51597152
Yeah, sounds really mature of you to care so much what other people do with their PCs
>>51597150
I've been using debian for a few months and I wanted to switch to arch. Debian just werks. Now I have to spend time fixing an issue that shouldn't even exist.
>inb4 "that's what arch is about"
>>51597150
well memed my friend
t. a fellow memer
>>51597152
>he screamed as he posted on 4chan
>>51597172
Its just that those kind people are infesting every tech corner on the web. Its always about some neet asking how to boost his fps in fallout or some other new garbage or those topics about 32 gorillion of RAM.
>>51597194
>Warning: The SliM project has been abandoned (the project homepage is down, leaving a github mirror), and is not fully compatible with systemd, including logind sessions. Consider using a different Display manager or Xinitrc.
Anyone know why the fonts on Google Search look gross? It's using Arial, but it looks off. It doesn't seem to respect my font settings in Chrome.
>>51597309
>Google doesn't respect font setting in Chrome
Oh the irony
>>51597237
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Thanks senpai
I am #1 retard
I've just installed fedora 23 and I was going to install some shit that I need through dnf. The problem is that it connect by default to a slow mirror and if write in dnf.conf "fastestmirror=true" it selects the same slow mirror. Anyone knows a way so I can manually set a mirror? I've searched in forums and documentations but I can't find or comprehend shit
>>51597309
Switch to Firefox, and set your font configuration.
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration
>>51595561
Anything wrong with vanilla Ubuntu if you delete unity and install xfce or any other desktop environment?
>>51597415
yes
you are not using xubuntu
>>51597352
Use lightDM or LXDM.
Do you really have arial? Most likely something else is being used as a replacement.
>>51597415
>delete unity and install xfce or any other desktop environment?
For what fucking purpose if there's ubuntu spinoffs that do the same right ootb?
>>51597415
If you have a good reason to not get a flavor with the DE you want in the first place, no.
>>51597399
I already have infinality.
I just used Stylish to make it look more material designy and use Roboto.
>>51597415
The only thing different from installing Ubuntu and switching to Xfce is there will be a bunch of default programs installed. There used to be a guide to switch from ubuntu-desktop to xubuntu-desktop and remove the excess packages, but iirc it hasn't been updated recently. It shouldn't make a difference, except it might show a bunch of useless/duplicate programs in the menus.
>>51595804
if your still babymode then use architect to install arch, it gets a working desktop going and if you can read/google a little you will be fine.
So im a newb first and foremost. Ive have a ubuntu bootable usb and can not make it past this screen when it 1st boots any advice?
>>51597490
What distro are you using and which version of infinality? Did you set up the presets for the font you want to use?
>>51597448
I do have arial, it just looks gross with my infinality settings I think. Looks the same in Libreoffice.
>>51597532
Use unetbootin/YUMI.
>>51597546
Do not.
Use dd.
>>51597546
Use it to reinstall the iso to the flashdrive?
>>51597533
Ubuntu. Using the Infinality PPA from here:
https://launchpad.net/~no1wantdthisname/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
Are there presets per font? I thought there was only global options.
>>51597118
>no use for anyway
>the e-mail and directory service most businesses use for its end users has no use
>>51597588
Run
> fc-presets set
Select 3 for ms fonts.
is i386 32 bit?
>>51597703
which one?
>>51597599
Most people don't do work related shit on their own systems.
>>51597563
Problem is: There's no dd in Windows.
>>51597570
Yes.
>>51597632
That doesn't appear to be a command with this version of infinality.anon@waifu:~/scripts$ fc
fc fc-cat fc-match fc-query fc-validate
fc-cache fc-list fc-pattern fc-scan
>>51597717
Sorry that was a really stupid way to ask, usually when I'm downloading an ISO for a linux distro, I'll see an iso that has i386 on it and on that's something else that I can't remember. What does the i386 indicate?
What's the best laptop under 600 dollars that I can get, that is maximally compatible with all variants of GNU+linux.
I really fucking hate driver issues, but I'd like a dedicated GPU. Am I fucked /g/?
>>51597776
Yes
>600 dollars
>Drivers
>Dedicated gpu
pick 2
>>51597750
Oh yeah, for some reason it's the ancient version of fontconfig rather than the recent bohoomil one. See if you can locate an ubunto port of that.
>>51597767
i386 means it is for 32-bit computers. Most computers these days will be 64-bit, so you will want to use the x86-64 or x64 iso.
I had an old Pentium IV system that needed i386 isos, but all my newer systems are 64-bit. You can install the i386 version, it's just not optimal, especially if you have gobs of RAM.
>>51597767
http://linux.about.com/cs/linux101/g/i386.htm
You know how I got that link? It appears there is something called Googlebotnet you just type words from your head and it somehow knows what you want and gives you the answers.
>>51597809
>>51597750
Try this one
https://launchpad.net/~rjvbertin/+archive/ubuntu/infinaltimate
>>51597532
Your live usb wasn't made correctly. Try Live Usb installer. It always worked for me.
>>51597826
>>51597884
I am lonely
>>51597884
Go awoo somewhere else, you piece of shit.
Suggestions welcome
>>51597943
fugging copycat
>>51597943
Why would you go through all of that? Just use Architect Arch installer.
>>51597967
go away and recommend your shitty dropbox NSA piece of shit somewhere else
>>51597974
It's basically the official wiki "chewed" for newbies.
how can i into linux?
i installed mint mate and i dont know how anything works. why do i have to do everything with those strange codes in the terminal? i tried to install the latest version of opera but afaik the "latest version" for me to install is 12.0. i also tried to install qgis but it didnt work. please help me!
>>51598010
> why do i have to do everything with those strange codes in the terminal?
because it's a computer...
>>51598008
Which makes it bad for newbies since they won't know what they are doing.
>>51595561
Does anyone know if ZFS RAID-Z allows vertical and horizontal expansion?
>>51598041
but its so complicated - and what for?
im just a normie that used windows his entire life.
>>51598010
shouldn't Mint come with some kinda graphical software/package manager?
>>51598061
It won't. The beginners' guide does not explain everything and >>51597943 is certainly more detailed than the architect.
>>51598041
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hShY6xZWVGE
>>51598073
what are you even trying to do?
>>51598106
So, leaving out even more details doesn't seem to be a good idea if you ask me.
>>51598119
i heard that linux can make old laptops faster.
i just want to do stuff for uni on it like using libreoffice (better would be ms office) and QGIS maybe. and also browsing the internet. but nothing else basically
>>51598145
fuckton better than this shit :^)
>>51598145
The guy from >>51597943 here, If you want some details, suggest me some that I can include
>>51598202
you shouldn't have any troubles doing any of that, you won't even need to use the terminal except maybe for installing with a package manager (but there are GUIs for that too)
>>51598218
OH CHRIST IT'S THE CHART FAGGOT
We need a /flt/ irc
1)wtf with debian so bloated..
2) anyone managed to install gnome3 on linux mint?--please help
>>51598258
kek
>>51598250
What I would have needed in a guide when I installed my system won't fit in a guide like that anyway.
Though what irks me most with guides like that is the partitioning scheme they just expect the user to copy.
>>51598320
Partitioning is only one part of my chart, you can replace it on your own if you are comfortable with parted or any other methods.
>>51598259
make the channel on snoonet? :^)
rizon is a piece of shit though.. freenode would be a better choice
I have a problem.
I have my ubuntu partition on /dev/sda5, with about 100gb of unallocated space next to it. I want to expand it into the unallocated space, but I'm afraid to do that. Should I just install arch in that free space, or take the plunge and expand the ubuntu partition.
Also, how could I expand the partition without a loss of data?
>>51598008
Well, if this was 1985 I guess installing an OS with a command line would be the only way to do it. I don't think that anyone should go through that much trouble just to install an operating system.
>>51598416
Hi ken,
your best bet would be to store your data on removable media and blowing it away for arch. It is much cleaner that way.
>>51598439
Look who it is...
I don't have a 64gb flash drive lying around. I'll go buy one though.
>>51598423
I believe any CLI installer is far more versatile than gui installer. GUI options are limited while the CLI installers offer you a wide range of choice of how you will install an OS
>>51597152
>fucking immature highschool fuckups
So, the linux core base?
>>51598218
Theres an updated version, still missing xorg and DE installation and not yet tested in virtualbox if theres not some bullshit... but I am getting there
;)
>>51598470
OK, that's an option, but Arch ends up functioning the same either way. You can obviously learn a lot about your operating system and how it works by installing it manually, but there are other ways of learning though.
anybody here installed a distro on a flashcard/flashdrive instead of hard disk? does it work in a long run? i mean full "hdd-like" install, not live session with persistence
>>51598546
Like, any one who uses a Pi?
>>51598485
What the fuck is the point of this? The arch wiki has a perfectly usable guide (a fully explained beginner one and a concise one), why would anyone need or want to use an infographic?
>>51598546
That is pretty much what puppy linux is all about
http://puppylinux.org/main/Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm
>>51598485
Nice
1. Do not recommend nano for sudoers list, this section may require an update
2. Installing yaourt needs yajl and package-query
>Infinality bundle repo
People cant memorize that
4. You might want to revise the mirrorlist part
You also might want to follow a vertical pattern so it's easy to follow
>>51598529
Agreed. Nice conversation
>>51598575
ok, havent thought about it
>>51598590
nice, i ll check it out
>>51598587
Charts are easy to memorize than the wiki
>>51597937
How can people not like such a cute thing?
>>51598641
There's nothing wrong with setting nano as the visudo editor.
>>51598673
No one is going to memorize all that and why would you need/want to memorize how to install arch anyway?
>>51598730
My reason: I use Arch exclusively and I don't want to browse the wiki from my mobile device everytime I want to install it. The installation is not that hard anyway but the way the wiki is structured, it's hard to remember the steps.
This is why I ended up making the white chart for myself
>>51598673
>memorize how to install arch
For what purpose?
>>51598802
>the way the wiki is structured, it's hard to remember the steps.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Installation_guide
It's like half a page long.
So, I used to have a 3x3TB md RAID5 array. I have upgraded it to a 6x3TB RAID6 today.
Before resize2fs'ing the old 6TB partition, I ran a benchmark on it (bonnie++) and got around 530MB/s seq write and 640MB/s seq read. I then resized the partition to use the full 12TB, restarted to make sure everything was mounting fine and re-ran bonnie++. This time both my seq read and write are around 400+MB/s, any idea what exactly could have caused the performance drop? Surely it can't be due to my growing the partition.
This isn't really an issue (goal is to max out 1Gbps LAN anyway - speeds are more than adequate), but I'm very curious if anyone has any idea.
>>51598587
well if you have asperger you might have trouble seeing the difference
Begineners guide with ~3000 word count and ends with you just getting booted in to terminal with internet working, it all ends there. This rather simple picture on the other hand describes how to get to working arch install easily and lists/will list all the required packages and some tweaks thats more definitly are on the great an all mighty wiki, but its a bit of a hunt
any arch user who did not installed arch for a year might welcome a simple go-through list
>>51598641
>1. Do not recommend nano for sudoers list, this section may require an update
when I did it like that I saw a temp file is being edited, so I think its safe and theres check before changes are applied. Recommending to just visudo with vi can cause a lot of headache to dumb users and I am not going to add vim tutorial to the infographic
>Installing yaourt needs yajl and package-query
doing it through that french repo I think all dependencies will go down with it
>You might want to revise the mirrorlist part
you mean the reflector part? why?
I am more worried about locale, its a bitch of a section to fit nicely and I am not 100% sure if what I wrote there will work fine
>You also might want to follow a vertical pattern so it's easy to follow
nah, most people will watch it on wide screen monitor I assume. But maybe there will be extra line at the bottom with some ricing if ideas come
>>51598819
see >>51598819
Also, I avoid the architect installer is a bit too secretive of what it's doing
>>51598846
The different (GPT/MBT) schemes fucks it up. Anyway, if you like the wiki that's fine but I think the installation algorithms are best to follow in a vertical chart
>>51598802
Do you have some sort of mental disorder that forces you to install Arch on any system that happens to be near you?
Fucking chart cunt strikes again. I thought he's fucked off to windows?
Fucking die faggit.
>>51598259
Yeah, we can't have a general without a named circlejerk.
>>51598896
Too bad I only have one machine
I installed arch on my parent's computer though and they still think it's XP kek
>>51598892
1. nano can mess up the syntax which you really do not want
2. It's easy to edit /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist manually than to remember refactoring
3.
>edit locale.gen
>locale-gen
>localectl set-locale Lang=YOUR_LANG_CHARSET
>>51599054
reflactoring*
>>51599054
>>51599080
FUCK reflecting*
>>51599108
It's alright you got there in the end m8 :^)
In what way can nano fuck the syntax? I'd call that more of a pebcak than a nano problem.
>>51599144
maybe he forgot to -w
>>51599144
>visudo locks the sudoers file, saves edits to a temporary file, and checks that file's grammar before copying it to /etc/sudoers.
>>51599144
I saw it in some other forums about the syntax thing
>>51599209
Does the same thing if you set the visudo editor as nano.
I enjoy using LXLE myself. As a new user it has mich of the feel of windows with more linux aspects. Some glitches on installation on a Toshiba Netbook but otherwise I love the low resource use and extensive play options. And it helps me learn how to use the terminal.
Why is unity considered bad and basically shunned?
>>51599281
Ugly, bloated, no customisation.
>>51599281
>Resource hungry
>amazon spyware controversy
>>51599290
>>51599300
Alright then, thanks
> get hp compaq cq57 from sister that never use it
> w7 is bloated as fuck and slow
> let's test some OOB distros
> linux mint cinnamon is as slow as w7
> debian doesn't even have touchpad drivers during installation
> lxle it's fast but ugly and comes preinstalled with a shitload of shit
> fedora 23 comes with gnome3, not even testing that out
I have no choice but to install elementaryOS.
Also great ATI drivers that don't even allow me to change brightness, I have to risk my ass by using fglrx
>>51599054
>1. nano can mess up the syntax which you really do not want
as I said you see it saving in to visudo.tmp, after you save it theres check done of syntax if is OK thats why you use visudo and not just nano /etc/sudoers
and at any rate, if shit happens its fresh install, no biggie
>It's easy to edit /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist manually than to remember refactoring
luckily picture does not count on you to remember anything, it tells you stuff
but now testing in virtualbox, reflector is not part of the basic arch install it seems, fuck
>locale
yeah I know, but its ~4 rows of extra space that might cause problem for that section
>>51599327
spins.fedoraproject.org
Don't even bother with that eos shite.
>>51599327
did you try the unofficial non-free debian iso?
>>51599327
xubu or BunsenLabs
>>51599327
>I have no choice but to install elementaryOS
10/10 made me reply
>>51599327
>> fedora 23 comes with gnome3, not even testing that out
>I have no choice but to install elementaryOS.
elementaryOS uses pantheon which is literally gnome3 with ripped off os x skin put on top of it.
You sound awfully like an eOS dev trying to shill your product.
>>51599349
Changing mirrorlist is optional
Inclined to try amdgpu over radeon on gentoo.
Has anyone here done the switch and is able to share experiences, stuff to look out for, etc.?
So I installed gentoo earlier this week, it seems really weird that sudo isn't available by default.
Is there a good reason not to use it for this distribution?
Also wondering if it's best not to partition separate /var and /tmp for a system intended for a single user on a small amount of hard drive space
Will a Fedora 22 LiveCD work as rescue media for Fedora 23?
>>51599707
>/tmp
put it in ram
>Is there a good reason not to use it for this distribution?
You can just install it like anything else if you want it.
>>51599723
Any live CD works. All you need is the ability to mount and chroot.
hi guys
I want to install linux on my computer. I use firefox and steam on windows, and the only games I play on steam are terraria and cs:go. I have looked at a lot of screenshots and i like the way that GNOME looks. What distro should I use? I'm leaning towards Ubuntu GNOME
>>51599935
ubuntu gnome is a good first distro. have fun.
>>51599707
>Also wondering if it's best not to partition separate /var and /tmp for a system intended for a single user on a small amount of hard drive space
I wouldn't say there is much point at all.
As for sudo, it's kind of the point of gentoo that it doesn't presuppose anything about the system. If you don't intend to have users why would you want sudo? Some people don't think it is very secure and prefer to manage without it too.
>>51599935
fedora, gnome, opensuse, the list could go on.
>>51599948
thanks m8!
is there anything special that needs done for my SSD/HDD setup? it was a bitch getting everything moved to the hdd on windows
>>51599965
also, should I download 15.10 or 14.04 LTS? I'm seeing that the 14.04 is supported for longer, but why would I want outdated software?
>>51599935
any distro you'd know would do. Have fun.
>>51599965
put /home on the HDD and everything else on the ssd during installation.
>>51599977
go for 15.10
>>51599411
Not a eos-dev, you were goddamn right, that was slow and unresponsive as shite.
And there wasn't even a brightness control slider.
>>51599364
Trying that, ty.
>Want to try Xubuntu on desktop
>Boot up on live USB
>The first window that asks if I want to try Xubuntu or install it works fine
>Go to try Xubuntu before installing
>Get a desktop that's cloned across all 3 of my monitors with a grey background
>Doesn't accept any input other than mouse movement and runs at like 5 fps
I let it sit for about 5 minutes thinking it might have just been painfully slow to load drivers from my USB or something, but nothing happened.
Does it just not load some drivers properly in the live environment ?
My intention was to dual boot for a while to see if I'd be able to get various software running and if NTFS works 100%, but this had me wondering if it would work after installing.
Does it get better if I go through with the install, or is the live environment what I can expect out of the box on my system ?
I don't think there's anything too obscure in my computer, pic related is specs. I do have an Auzentech X-Fi Bravura though it shows up as HD Audio because the proper drivers don't exist anymore, but if anything that should only fuck up audio and not everything else, right ?
I fucked my boot up senpai:
-OpenSuse on sdc(windows 7 on sda)
-decide to change distro with Xubuntu
-can't boot anything now, no grub(says can't find normal.mod)
-had the bright idea to reinstall Ubuntu but select bootloader to be on sdc instead of sda
-now I have grub but no windows 7
-fortunately there is an option for Windows 8(which I deleted months ago, I guess the boot info still remains) from which I can get into Windows 7 after some error screens and file checking.
I can't be bother to do clean installs of Windows and Linox, fuck it man.
>>51600101
Live Xubuntu ran pretty smooth on my rig
>>51600101
go through the install, none of your components should cause any problems.
>>51600101
performance of live sessions is nowhere near as good as a normal installation.
Live sessions are just there for you to see what you can expect right after first boot, nothing else
I don't expect anyone to help me with this essay but here goes:
So I wanted to start somewhere with learning about more advanced GNU/Linux topics like the compilation process since I'm fucking clueless about anything that isn't 'aptitude install'
I ended up with Gentoo on my fuckaround Chinkpad and since I don't want it to melt my lap or burn my house on every emerge I thought I would offload some work to a Xeon box using distcc.
Anyway, I installed distcc on both Gentoo and A Debian instance on the server that will be helping with emerging. I configured everything properly. The box is an X86_64 and gentoo is a core2duo i686.
Do I need to take any special steps for the cross compile toolchain? I thought that wouldn't be necessary since i have the i686 gcc version on both machines....
I'm getting vague errors on the Debian box in /var/log/distcc.log and can't even get the log file to tell me details for some odd reason...
I'm lost at this point...
Also, I have a hypervisor that can emulate a Core2duo. When I make a VM with a Core2duo and apt-get gcc I get the i585 while my laptop, a core2duo gets i686. Is there an explanation for this?
>>51600197
http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/
Does anyone know why this script does not work?
a=37
if [$a -gt 27]
then
echo $a
fi
exit $?
>>51600353
>[$a -gt 27]
What is that supposed to do?
dual booting 8.1 and xubuntu, how the FUCK do I get it to stop fucking up my clock when I go into xubuntu? I found a script on the ubuntu forums that supposedly did the trick, but it didn't fix anything.
Is there just a fucking setting that i need to change or something more hacky that i need to do? I'm PST and it goes 8 hours forward when I go into xubuntu.
>>51600378
I don't have a clue, I am redirecting a question.
>>51600353
you need spaces inside the square bracketsif [ $a -gt 27 ]
>>51600385
timedatectl
check time zone.
So besides the Amazon botnet, is there anything objectively wrong with Unity? I installed vanilla 15.10 and I'm in love. It's clean, polished, and looks better than any other DE I've tried so far.
Wacom intuos tablet not working on xubuntu 15. 04
Google gives me no solid answer. Some people claim it just works
What do /g/
>>51600418
Thank you!
>>51600455
Not really. If you like it, go ahead and keep using it.
>>51600378
-gt is for checking if $a is greater than 27
the > symbol is redirection in bash so you can't use that for conditional statements
>>51599951
Huh, well I did set up one user. I was under the impression that it's not good practice to login as root all the time? I do plan to setup ssh and port forwarding, is it ok to use root for that too?
>>51600455
it's very heavyweight/bloated. if your computer can handle that it's no big deal
>>51600455
>objectively wrong with Unity?
Sure.
It's a clusterfuck of GTK, QT and few other trash.
It's easily the most bloated desktop environment of them all.
It will use Mir in the future, and that's the biggest minus of it all
>>51600545
Will it really?
>>51600580
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(software)
> Mir is a computer display server for the Linux operating system currently in development by Canonical Ltd. It is planned to replace the currently used X Window System for Ubuntu.
>>51595561
Hello I wanna play games with my friend we usally use tunngle. What is a FOSS alternative that is easy to use and multiplatform
>>51600508
It's not that bad to log in to console as root but you wouldn't want to startx as root. You could log in as a user and then su in to root when you need to do something and then exit back to user. It's up to you, I would say sudo is fine but I use a combination of both these methods. I don't know about ssh, never really used it.
>>51600598
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Upstart
>>51600545
>It's easily the most bloated desktop environment of them all.
I should've also add that despite being the most bloated the kind of functionality it offers is nowhere near KDE for example.
Canonical is just bad at writing their own software
>upstart was a failure
>unity is a failure
>mir will probably be a failure just like upstart, because wayland is just around the corner
They should stick to making a general use desktop distro oriented at the use of non-free software.
>>51595561
stop trying to attract people to your stupid religion
Fedora vs Debian?
I use Fedora, but how's Debian?
I have rtorrent running on a headless Debian 8.2 server. Currently it's creating downloaded files with 700 permissions, which means things like Plex (running under its own user) cannot access them before I manually chmod.
Is there any way to set the permissions rtorrent uses by default? I haven't been able to find much.
rtorrent is running inside screen and as a systemd service.
>>51600678
Fedora
>up to date
>stable
>packages as close to the upstream, no distro specific bugs
>12 months of support in every release
>x86 only
>you may not find certain software packaged for it
Debian
>not up to date
>even more stable
>heavily mangled packages
>all architectures in existence
>solid ~3 years of support in every release.
>if there's linux software it's probably packaged already.
>>51600329
I used it(before the reinstalling and bootloader location change), didn't work.I probably have to manually delete all the boot related stuff on sda, then do the same on sdc, fix the Windows MBR and then put a fresh Grub.
Worst part is that my Windows 7 cd wont allow me to use the repair tool.I could also simply format and reinstall both Windows and Linox but fuck it , I'll just continue to use the Windows 8 bootloader.
>>51600787
How is KDE5? Last time I used it, it was far from polished and had more UI inconsistencies than Windows 10.
>>51600916
More bloated than unity, only DE i know that has a 10 second load screen before you get to a desktop.
What's the lightest Linux Distro?
>>51600916
Right now it sucks.
KDE spinoff of Fedora 23 feels like early beta version.
>>51600916
Mate and Xfce, fuck the rest.
>>51600969
Damn small linux/puppy linux probably
>>51596275
Laughed audibly.Receiving glares.
>>51600969
Take a look at http://tinycorelinux.net/
>>51597113
Try using the Wiki next time.
So I tried installing Damn Small Linux on an old Win 98 Hardware to mess around and after the disc loads, I get a "Signal out of Range" notification on my monitor. What causes that?
Look mom I posted it again.
>>51600749
umask
>>51601402
lel
Got Arch Linux installed on my laptop. So... Uh... Hi!
>>51601402
>>51601556
Don't forget this
>>51601806
Manjaro is a league of its own
