I fell for the meme
>>51583962
What meme? SSD's work great. Fuck mechanical HDD's.
>>51583962
>no moving parts
>2015 prices
This is reason enough
Depends. Using SSDs alone is fucktarded. But an HGST HDD + small SSD is perfection.
>>51584053
>Using SSDs alone is fucktarded
Why?
>>51583962
So did I but I have no regrets
>>51584065
Spontaneous rapid NAND failure.
Or maybe because hdd's for mass storage are still fuck tons cheaper than ssd's duh
>>51584053
Retard. Just use a small SSD for the OS and tapes for maximum storage per dollar.
>>51584053
>HGST
>not WD black
gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8 and comiser8
>>51584053
>>51584107
Why do these anime collecting fucks always assume everyone else needs 10TBs of storage space
>>51584065
Because they have built in obsolescence
>>51584125
where
>>51583962
Same. I should've gotten an SSD earlier, only bought one this year.
I'll never fall for /g/'s memes again.
>>51584065
Because you can still buy a 2TB HDD for less than $100 right now and SSDs are only beneficial for a 128-256GB OS partition to help speed up vydia/program loading times and system boot up times. They are not meant to be used for storage of movies and tv shows since those things can take up over 1TB of storage space.
At least for right now using only an SSD alone is a really bad investment. Things may change as prices for SSDs keep dropping though, I can accept that.
>>51584147
its gone already i bought them all fucccboi
>>51583962
>OP fishes for people to reassure him he's not a retard for not getting an SSD
how's that dick taste?
>>51584121
You idiot, Hitachi drives are significantly better than wd, they have a significantly smaller failure rate as well
>>51584107
>Spontaneous rapid NAND failure.
Epic meme, /b/ro. SSDs are way more reliable than HDDs. Unless you bought some Kingston dogshit, your SSD will run reliably for years. Meanwhile HDDs just shit the bed randomly whenever the fuck they want.
HDDs cannot be trusted.
>>51584126
You don't rip blu rays of your favorite shows and movies on your pc? Are you that pleb?
>>51584178
>watching media
pleb, ebooks take no space
>>51583962
>"SSD is a meme" meme
>>51584121
hgst have the lowest hdd failure rate out there you mongoloid.
>>51584205
>""SSD is a meme" meme" meme
>>51584198
>ebooks
This pleb doesn't have a wall of books in his garage next to his Lambo
>>51584166
proofs?
out of the 437 laptops i deployed 3 years ago and manage break/fix for the only ones ive had issues with are the HGSTs and Seagates. none of the WD blacks have come to my bench with the exception of one in a machine that was ran over.
>>51584198
Sounds like your life sucks man. Just reading books every day like a machine sounds horrible.
>>51584222
>"""SSD is a meme" meme" meme" meme
>>51584234
What's the difference from watching media all day?
>>51584209
>>51584114
Are you really storing petabytes of data? Or is this a hot new meme?
>>51584265
>>51584230
https://www.backblaze.com/blog/hard-drive-reliability-stats-for-q2-2015/
>>51584244
uhg tits? Maybe they are the same thing but I could never get into reading after watching game of thrones and house md
>>51584285
interesting. looking at the list of the drive m/ns they have the black series isnt on there at all, only wd reds and wd blues. i wonder if there's another source floating around that runs/tests those en masse
>>51584277
It would make a nice meme. Start recommending people to get a small SSD for the OS and tapes for storage in build threads.
>>51584237
>""""SSD is a meme" meme" meme" meme" meme
>>51584337
Don't worry kid. Not everyone can be an intellectual ;)
>>51583962
calling ssds a meme is a meme
>buy a SSD
>realize I have to go through reinstalling Windows 7 again and I might lose my stuff
I hope the meme is worth it
>>51584285
It's shit.
Just get enterprise drives or drives with a 5 year warranty and you'll be fine. Pulling drives out of cheap ass externals and putting them in a 24/7 server is completely fucking retarded, let alone using the "results" as "data"
>>51584364
lol are you projecting?...
>>51583962
HAHAHAHA MEMES! XDDD lmao SSDs are such a great MEME like OMG hahaha I am literally lmfao'ing right now at this epicness!!! :DD Easily the top meme of 2015, like who had the time to come up with it?? Whoever did it had to be amazing because this meme is just great! :DDDD
I fucking love MEEMS! xDDD
>>51584363
>le randum xD inception meme
>>51583997
>>51584022
There right tho
>>51584419
>le "le randum xD inception meme" meme
>>51583962
Only poorfags claim SSDs are a meme anyways, so don't feel bad. Congratulations on joining the rest of us in 2015
I have one of those Plextor mSATA drives as my boot and software drive, while I use a few HDDs for other bullshit
Boot times are a tad faster than having an HDD as a boot drive with shit on it, problem is I don't restart my computer or turn it off enough for it to matter to me. Software also doesn't have a noticeable difference in launching compared to using HDD
SSDs are good for laptops
>>51584364
>kid
>;)
God you make me cringe.
Seriously, who reads on a monitor if you have access to real books? Use storage space for god-res movies, huge loads of music, games.
>>51584434
le le "le randum xD inception meme" meme meme
>>51584479
>What is a smartphone
I really hope people don't actually read on a computer monitor.
>>51584363
>"""""SSD is a meme" meme" meme" meme" meme" meme
>>51584482
>le "le "le "le randum xD inception meme" meme" meme" meme
>>51584479
>who reads on a monitor if you have access to real books?
you use an e-reader doofus
Can anyone educate me the price history of SSD?
It's capacity and price back in 2010 and expectation 3 years from now.
>>51584505
Read again. I read on paper books.
>>51584512
an e-reader is a monitor...
>>51584384
>not installing linux
>>51584479
>god-res
And you make me cringe anon
>>51584509
>le "le "le "le "le randum xD inception meme" meme" meme" meme " meme
>>51584515
Pretty sure I bought a 128GB SSD for $130 in 2010 or 2011.
>>51584523
Do you also use $1,000+ DACs to listen to music? Dam you're so cool and not super autistic anon :^)
>>51584468
SSDs are also good for videogames that are constantly having to load. Like most RPGs.
I miss Chaikaposting.
>>51584537
I would, senpai but I want to play video games on my computer.
>>51584556
>reading books is autistic
Burn this fucking board to the ground. It's all we deserve.
>>51584172
It was an obvious joke, stupid.
>>51584533
In the same sense that any display is one but that's not what people refer to when they say monitor. No one calls a fucking e-reader display a monitor.
>>51584515
Storage capacity was low and prices were high. They also had very high failure rates for all brands except maybe Intel. The high failure rate is almost completely gone in most brands now.
>>51584554
Thanks
I'll just be waiting 5 years before I jump into SSD tech for the 1TB version at that price
>>51584577
no, we can preserve /g/ if we try hard. The first step is to burn this autistic faggot and crucify his charred body
>>51584610
So Intel & probably Samsung would be the only good picks?
>>51584554
What brand? It might have been one with a huge failure rate like OCZ or was actually flash storage and not even an SSD.
i fell too
i hope this shit worth it /g/
>>51584577
Reading paper books is autistic not reading ebooks. Get with the times grandpa.
>>51584639
the reddragon mouse is. youll like it anon.
>>51584633
Crucial M3. I use it as a boot drive in my gaming rig today actually. I used to use it in my ThinkPads before I got a rMBP.
>>51584639
>16400 DPI
W E W L A D
E
W
L
A
D
>>51584631
If you were buying back in 2010 you would want to get Intel because every brand I think including Samsung had high failure rates.
>>51584639
it's not
you dun goofed
for anyone who wants to fucking know and cant understand what /g/ is trying to say here
get a 100gb SSD and install an OS on it, then buy a 1tb HDD and put all your other shit on that, and do not use the SSD as storage or risk fucking the drive after a few years of use.
>>51584343
I wonder if we'll ever come full circle and tapes will become cool in that retro/hipster vein again. Maybe it's time to start investing in ancient computer equipment for huge returns in the next 10-15 years.
But people want to have fast loading times in their games too
We are greedy anon
>>51584663
I trusted on the reviews, but i still have my doubts about that brand.
>>51584677
I know the DPI thing is just a marketing tool. I only care about the prog side buttons.
>>51584717
good idea anon
this guy is why i get all my marketing advice about computers from /g/
>>51584509
>>51584545
>>51584482
>>51584434
>>51584419
>>51584363
>>51584237
>>51584222
>>51584205
You are all such faggots.
>>51584053
>>51584166
>>51584209
>>51584285
>falling for the backblaze meme
W E W L A D
E
W
L
A
D
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html
>>51584674
Intel was the only truly trusted brand but it sounds like you found a good deal. I remember SSDs being more than 2 dollars per GB everywhere not long ago.
>>51584735
the thing i like about the reddragon line (i have the step below the one in your cart) is the texture of the mouse keys isnt a flat one, theres a bit of grip to it. youll find yourself accidentally hitting the DPI key while using the mouse if you use a palmrest grip but other than that theyre pretty solid.
>>51584735
could have gotten a razor for a lower price with same buttons iirc
>>51584735
but laser sensors a shit
>>51584776
It was actually a bit more since I bought it in person instead of online. I'm pretty sure it was 2011 and the price was roughly around $1/gb
Also it was a Crucial M4, not M3. Sorry
>>51584132
elaborate?
>>51584799
He's autistic.
>>51584799
An SDD will die after so many read/write no matter what. It says it right on the box and you're just buying this up like you've no care in the world that you'll be stuck in a cycle rebuying them again and again and again with your data getting wiped each time
how are hybrid HDD-SSD combos? is it worth the $15 more dollars to a $50 1TB 7200 RPM drive to get 8GB of SSD cache built in?
>>51584774
Feels good to have Seagate while people here falling for the meme
>>51584829
do not buy a hybrid drive ever. their fail rates from any brand are asinine.
>>51583997
It's true. They really make a difference when you do alot at once.
I am not sure about other brands but the samsung 850 evo works very well when vitalizing 5 VMs which are also indenting with virtual machines.
>>51584812
oh lol. that's what you're talking about
yeah it'll die, after a really really long fucking time
>>51584829
No. Just buy an HDD+SSD. SSHDs are garbage. You'd be spending $15 more for 8GB of "ssd cache" (which you don't get to decide what goes there) instead of spending ~$40 more and buying a 120GB straight SSD. Not worth it.
>>51584812
They fail to read only.
>>51584829
There's no point to hybrid drives. Just get an SSD.
>>51584812
hence why
>SSD for OS
>other data on HDD
and really if you dont care about the speed boost an SSD gives you then buy a 1tb seagate HDD and install everything on that
>>51584785
>Razer
>$70 (seventy) for the Naga
Nah
>>>51584786
Whatever, i'm not very autistic about high precision movements and all that shit.
I only want it for playing my korean grinding simulators better.
>>51584812
I'd rather have a set date that's a long fucking time away than a drive that has absolutely no guarantee at all because of moving parts. This argument is just plain stupid because HDDs deteriorate just by reading a file, while an SSD only wears under writes. HDDs will fail much earlier than SSDs because of this + moving parts.
>>51584812
>says the guy buying storage with moving parts that can literally fail 1 month into using it
>>51584906
ah shit must have been something else that was cheaper lol
>>51584907
modern HDDs have quite a low fail rate, meaning you can use them for 15-20+ years if you want.
not saying you can use an SSD that long but at least with a HDD you dont have to worry every time you write something to it.
>>51584812
SSDs don't have a set amount of reads f.am. Only writes.
>>51584930
Electricity is a moving part and your SSD still has that
>>51584125
What site is this? The UI is unfamiliar.
>>51584951
not saying you can't* use an SSD that long
>>51584951
You do realize modern SSDs have withstood wear tests for up to petabytes of data, right?
To the all retards in this thread arguing about SSD's dying due to too excess wear.
Do you realize how much data you actually have to WRITE per day just to see the drive start giving reallocated sectors?
For example the EVO series are rated at 75-150 TBW.
That's 4-8 years respectively of writing 50GB every single day.
>>51584951
>15-20 years
You have to be trolling. Enterprise class mechanical drives don't even last that long. They're only warrantied for 5 years max.
When a mechanical drive fails you're fucked. When an SSD fails you can usually still read the data.
>>51584962
Your mom is a moving part and my D still had that
Congratz?
But seriously this thread smells of 'call it a meme' meme.
>>51584468
SSDs give a boost in system responsiveness on any system. You're just too stupid to notice it.
>Anime pic
Explains it all
>>51584022
Better performance for less energy use.
>8 watt for a spinning disk (Average) input/output
At 28.4 cents AUD per watt and X it by 7 years = $17.04 a year X 10 years = $170
Green hard drives 6watts (Western digital green label) = $12.8 a year x 10 years = $128
Samsung SSD 850 ev0
4.7 watts are max input/output is 10 a year x 10 years $100
People run more then one disk so double it.
Convert to your currency but this is compiled by an aussie faf.
>>51584707
>risk fucking the drive after a few years of use.
It's 2015. Not 2009.
>>51584384
>reinstalling to switch drive
Well, you CAN, and if you don't maintain your Windows 7 install well... I guess go ahead.
Or you could clone it after appropriately resizing the partitions.
Go pirate Acronis.
>>51585046
>Owning a single HDD or SDD for $10 years
>>51585046
>10 years
Lol
>>51584157
Yeah but I run heavy input/output applications and I run VMs.What good is having storage if it cannot keep up with the workload presented?
Gaming for one is improved by ssds since it has a very fast access time and the data is not spread across the disk like your mums leg is all day, everyday.
I for one love the very low latency between fail-over between to EXSI hosts.
>>51585061
You mean like the main and only argument of HDD owners?
>>51585046
Yeah I fucked up. Not the maths but by saying 7 years... Sorry guys.
it is per year by 10 years.
>>51585061
Not including the costs.
If you raid your disks then perhaps running SSDs will be cost effective in large scale.
I fell for it as well, OP. I fell for it hard
>>51585140
God damn those are nice prices
Was this a BF deal?
>>51585074
I could not include the time you save using the SSDs. From boot to shutdown.
It can says 3 years a year but running a SSD and so add that to the savings.
You can also have level heat meaning cooling is reduced. There is more then what I worked out in simple running costs.
>>51584848
Got any general proof to back that up? For all SSHDs across all brands? They fail at the same rate as their HDD counterparts
>>51584865
>>51584899
Say I don't want or can't get an SSD. Why should I get a high capacity HDD over a high capacity SSHD?
>>51585155
>Say I don't want or can't get an SSD
Well then you're probably not being reasonable.
>>51585151
ye maan, where were you?
>>51584222
>milhouse
>>51585155
>Got any general proof to back that up? For all SSHDs across all brands? They fail at the same rate as their HDD counterparts
That is true. Not only do the disk used the SSD part as a buffer but the caching software fails and sectors die young. The life is the same as a normal disk but with a slight speed increase. However i'd just buy an ssd and then use raid 1TB risks together.
That is what I am doing right now in fact.
850 EVO/PRO for S.O and gaymes and WD BLACK for storage
Best combination
Prove me wrong
>>51585155
Because they have much higher failure rates and don't really do much better than regulars.
Been using SSD's as boot disks for years, with something like windows 8 you don't notice the difference, but having to use VM's/spindle based boot disks on some devices jesus fuck, you forget how lucky you are.
>>51584994
That's entirely possible, which is why you shouldn't use something like the EVO series (or PLUS/Ultra Sandisk SSDs) for a system drive.
For everything else though, they're perfect.
>I have a a Samsung 850EVO 500GB as my music drive...
>>51584225
This looks shopped, pixels, etc
>>51585151
The EVO was even cheaper than that.
>>51585206
This post is just so fucking backwards I don't know where to begin.
>>51585187
Tapes have a higher memory per dollar capacity than hard drives. You're proven wrong.
>>51585197
>based boot disks on some devices jesus fuck, you forget how lucky you are.
Fuck oath. Currently running vsphere stuff to prac for the vsphere 6 test. I am happy I brought this SSD.
>>51585187
2x WD Blue EZEX in raid0 are cheaper, faster and more reliable than a single WD Black.
>Yes, a 2disk raid0 is more reliable than a single WD Black, the failure rates on those drives are terrible.
>>51585206
>which is why you shouldn't use something like the EVO series (or PLUS/Ultra Sandisk SSDs) for a system drive.
>I have a a Samsung 850EVO 500GB as my music drive...
u fukin wat m8?
>>51585225
I'm not implying you should be using a HDD for a system disk if that's what your thinking.
System drive is going to get lots of page file writes, so it should be a better class of SSD (Samsung 840/850PRO, Intel SSDs, Sandisk Extreme, etc)
The 'value' range SSDs aren't a good fit for system drives as it's entirely possible to actually write 50-100GB a day to the page file.
>>51585187
>gaymes
Why does /g/ have this complex built up around videogames? I haven't been here for long but I feel like some of you resent the fact that so many people only give a shit about computers insofar as it affects their vidya gayming.
Not directed at you in particular, just something I've noticed.
>>51585231
What? you have a single point of failure with both. No redundancy with the raid and a single disk with the black.
Come back when you use raid 1 or 5. Then claim reliable.
>I bet you use software raiding...
>>51585253
>swapping
>>51585206
Why the fuck are you using an SSD to store music?
>>51585255
Umm people play games?
Some games do need constant input/output with SSDs are good for.
Having consistent disk speed at high access speeds allows games to be smooth.
>>51584963
jet.com
>>51585166
Maybe I do not want two local disks. I want one single, high capacity one that is not prohibitively expensive or complicated to set up.
Besides, I could just add an SSD later and do the same shit you are talking about but with a SSD+SSHD combo rather than SSD+HDD
>>51585189
prove to me that they have higher failure rates than HDDs. And they oftentimes make things load up at 99% the speed that SSDs do; they're just not consistent about it
>>51585270
With a HDD sometimes the bits do not arrive fast enough and the sound is distorted. For example when listening to Adele's "Hello" in my HDD the "Hello" in the chorus is regularly distorted to a sort of "Hella"
>>51585285
>maybe I do not want two local disks
If it's really that big of a deal to you then buy your shit SSHD. Nobody here is going to convince you otherwise, clearly.
>>51585270
The HDD that was storing my music was close to death (SMART warnings out the wazoo)
And honestly, I was sick of having to move the data around to to disks failing simply because of the load/unload count.
An SSD isn't going to fail because of my aggressive power management.
>>51585290
>what is a cache
>>51585231
>raid 0 for storage
>>51585253
>it's entirely possible to actually write 50-100GB a day to the page file.
I'm sorry about your 1GB of system memory.
>>51585225
Maybe you should have enable swap so shit to go bidirectional to your brain and this post.
Know you have ram which is full and a hard disk that is not being used to swap.
>>51585253
>to the page file
What fucking page file? Do you not have 8+ GB of memory in 2015?
>>51585347
Nobody fucking uses swap. It's 2015 for God's sake!
Using SSD for the indentation of 5 machines with 2 VM in it.
>>51585359
Retard. ALL SYSTEMS USE SWAP. THEY USE IT FOR THE SPEED OF LAUNCHING APPLICATIONS....
Learn to program, to the processes of computing, learning how cpu information in placed from disk > ram > cpu > < ram < disk.
Wether you use it for ram aid it is used whether you like it or not. Not having it simply means your system will not manage tasks as efficient as it would if it was on.
Also if you own a SSD use swap you retard. It is fast, will not take to much shit up and might improve your system by a shit fold of cunt whit up.
>>51584157
>Because you can still buy a 2TB HDD
Doesn't matter if you won't actually use that much. I got one of those Sandisk 480 GB SSDs that were $110 a few days ago and am in the process of reinstalling all my shit on it right now. I was originally looking at a ~256 GB SSD + a 1TB HDD for my other shit, but then I realized I have less than 100 GB of shit that wasn't Windows, Linux, or games, so it just didn't make sense for me to have an SSD + an HDD.
>>51585428
Nothing's getting swapped because I don't run out of RAM you dipshit
>>51585428
Sorry but I don't have this problem as I never use all my RAM.
>>51585440
Maybe read up on what swap is how it works, what it is supplicated for other then fucking ram aid dumb cunt.
>>51585471
I don't even have any space allocated for swap. Literally 0. Take the L man.
>>51585471
>Not using your ssd as ram.
Why?
>>51585471
https://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/5.2/Deployment_Guide/s1-swap-what-is.html
>>51585493
CentOS > computer science how?
>>51585493
http://www.slideshare.net/HamedMSanogo/hotswapping-from-band-aid-to-effective-solution-part-1-of-2
>>51585506
Windows is "computer science"?
Lmfao
>>51585506
Okay Rajeet, since you are so clearly educated in this subject, please explain to the class what swap space is and how it is used. Preferably in non-broken English.
>>51585519
What the fuck does hotswapping have to do with anything, Sanjeeb?
>>51585519
Ahahahaha
>>51585521
One, it was original used for the purpose of aid support. Running out of memory space which is then sent to the disk to use up as VMram.
The new purpose used by modern application is that if memory space is reserved by a application and the CPU bus is currently being used by a single node process then the disk will be contacted to see if the SCSI controller on it will process the information.
It no longer applies to memory aid. It applies to application processing. It can speed up mission critical applications. If you has a ssd it will surely improved critical applicable nodes.
>>51585428
Some of us don't shove bloat onto our RAM and abuse the virtual page model.
Barring vidya, 8 GB is enough to never use swap, and if you have memory demands past that, the app really ought to be scaling on the basis of limited, not infinite memory.
>>51585566
What, and no source? Come on Rajeet, you should know this. You gotta have a source, my man.
ffs I paid $70 shipped for a Crucial 250gb and then shitty OCZ Trion went on sale for $50
>>51584384
just clone it
>>51585585
Yes you do. Running anything in java or C is bloated with padding code. In fact using those two languages allows exploits in memory to in fact those applications. Memory leaks also apply to most of microsoft 10 OS applications.
In linux is also is compiled into C compilers in the CPU terminal. So you are using a C based emulator to execute code from CPU to disk > to ram.
Bloatware everywhere.
>>51584225
he doesnt have enough fuel units
>>51585586
I send it in a url mate.
>>51585493
http://www.slideshare.net/HamedMSanogo/hotswapping-from-band-aid-to-effective-solution-part-1-of-2
>>51585663
Oh my fucking god, hotswapping is NOT swapping, you idiot
>talos principle on ssd
>5 second loading times
>get used to this
>get new laptop, recycle ssd
>clone ssd to an hdd
>load times increase to 30 seconds
>on a 7200rpm drive
ree
>>51583962
mjam mjam ssd is a meme mjam mjam
they increase the performance on a huge amount depending what you're doing with it.
fuck these poor retards that just can't effort a proper ssd because they don't work and will not take use of it because they're just browsing on 4pleb.
i'm working all day on an intel pcie ssd at work which is incredible fast.
also i work at home on videos and photos where my samsung pros saving ass by being multiple times faster than a decent hdd.
it works and it helps if you're not a unproductive piece of crap
>>51585671
Mate I having fucking shitting you cunts all this time and you tell me I am an idiot.
Fuck off you topic retards.
>>51585699
you posted a link to something that is totally fucking different. Hotswapping hardware is NOT memory swapping. Please fuck right off to your designated shitting street if you can't even stay on topic.
>>51585679
Come watch smallville with me. I once too what wasting my life with HDD no waste it with smallville.
>>51585714
>I started shit posting.
>People use the internet as knowledge
>I grabed the first result I could find in a documented formatted, since people want "citation"
Reguardless of what was in documented, I posted it as fact of whatever bullshit I could say.
Now you have read this post. I have almost wasted you time with this shit.
>Understand that everything I have said is complete bullshit.
>Fucking retard? (question)
>>51585756
>I was only pretending to be retarded
The post.
>>51585783
Haha. My thought however that is how it happened. I didn't even know it was related to swapping until some anon said it.
Well enjoy your wasted time.
>>51584125
Damn. I just bought the Kingston.
>>51585756
At least you confirmed that DESIGNATED programmers have no idea what they're doing.
>>51585783
Forgot to add that running applications means you have cancer
http://www.di.uniba.it/intint/people/papers/ijhcs-affect.pdf
>>51585644
>just clone it
LISTEN I AM NOT A DARK MATTER PHYSICIST.
>>51584225
what a retard, that garage isn't air conditioned and those books are going to be ruined. not that he reads them.
>>51585844
If you are implying I am a programmer then you are mistaking. I am exploit research. I simply inject random code lines into the emulator of INTEL chip code to see what it does.
>The stuff that removes your applications from the direct hardware access.
I should learn programming but I am completing network security engineering first.
>>51584774
HGST are built by WD anyways faggot
>>51584121
>muh gaymen hdd
>>51584996
Wait, holy shit really? If a SSD fails there's a chance of recovery?
>>51584515
I remember people talking about 64GB SSDs for $250 was a steal.
>>51585912
You can read the data so you can copy it to another storage device. If a HDD fails, then you are out of luck. SSDs are objectively better.
>>51585912
Unless you break the memory controller, yes
If you write to it once then only read from it, they can last pretty much forever. Far more reliable than Tapes. one day.
>>51585951
That's got to be the best thing I've ever been told about a SSD. I'm a patient motherfucker who can handle loading times and what not, but I'm paranoid as hell about losing my data.
>>51585261
Daily reminder that software raid>hardware raid
Also, he means that a WD Blue is twice as reliable as a WD Black, which is true
WD Blacks are for retard gaemurs
>>51585255
/v/ crossboarders
>>51586032
>software raid>hardware raid
Honestly? In what fucking universe?
>>51585912
>>51586021
Sort of. There's two main ways an SSD can die. One is it reaching the maximum number of writes/having failed nand. You can still read this and copy it to another drive before disposing of it or sending it in for replacement.
The other is the controller dying, which although much less likely than a HDD failing there's no real warning before your drive bites the dust.
Both of these things are going to be improving as the technology advances though unlike hard drives which are becoming more volatile as density/platters increase.
Also if you're really concerned with losing your data both Sandisk and Samsung make SSDs with a 10 year warrenty, they're marginally more expensive than non shit tier SSDs and are pretty your best bet other than tapes/dvds/a dickload of drives in raid.
>>51585041
>Y-you're just too stupid to notice!
Oh i've noticed the boost, it's just not any better than an HDD you autist
>hating anime on an anime imageboard
explains it all
>>51586261
Don't stop posting Chaika.
>>51586261
>Oh i've noticed the boost
Noticed the boost... compared to a HDD?
But it's not better than a HDD?
>>51586305
Not any better than and HDD, ie it's not a giant fucking impact on software opening
>>51586261
>an H
Is this an American thing?
>>51586315
>a HDD
>>51586312
You said you noticed the boost. What were using before you used the SSD? Tapes?
If you were using a HDD and noticed a boost then it means it's better than the HDD.
>>51586332
So because my computer goes to desktop 1 second faster or opens software 0.2 seconds faster it's better? One being something I don't do regularly and an other where I could give a shit how fast it opens
Family, stop trying to justify how SSDs are so much better than HDDs
>>51586368
Holy shit, you should type up the data you got on this. SSDs offer no meaningful improvement over HDD? We're all being scammed, this technology is useless!
>>51586368
Uhh yes. Higher performance means the component is better than the previous one.
There will never be a stupider group of people than anime posters.
>>51586368
>So because my computer goes to desktop 1 second faster or opens software 0.2 seconds faster
Curious as to how you measured these.
>>51586261
>>51586285
>>51586312
>>51586368
chaika is love
chaika is life
>>51586384
hey, if you've noticed it better go ahead and spend the money senpai :^)
>>51586388
>Uhh yes. Higher performance means the component is better than the previous one.
and longevity?
>getting mad at anime on a jesuit scripture council
No problem here, me too.
>>51584639
red dragon is a chink brand but they only get good reviews so pray they aren't all shills. samsung 850 evos and Intel 730s are the only SSDs I'd recommend so I'd say you made a good choice desu. just don't get kingshit
>>51586404
>and longevity?
SSDs last longer than HDDs now.
Suddenly, Chaika thread.
>>51586368
Random peru poster single handedly proves that Google, Facebook, Oracle and other companies were wrong to migrate data centers to SSDs using one simple trick.
>>51584906
http://flash.newegg.com/Product/0TP-0007-00026
Naga's are $44.99 here through Sunday.
They have their place.
As do HDDs, unless money is no object given the GB:price scope.
>>51584225
>tfw no lamborghini's in your lamborghini account
>>51584884
No they fail to write, and set themselves to a read-only state. Which means you can still retrieve your data.
>>51584899
SSHD > HDD
For a 10% increase in price over a normal HDD, you get a HDD that is often as fast as a SSD with HDD-tier capacity. There are no downsides other than the price increase; it's exactly the same in terms of reliability as a regular HDD
>>51586582
>SSHD
Holy shit my sides
Implemented correctly maybe, but nothing commercial has been done as such.
>>51586582
Hi Linus.
>>51586582
Mate I own 3 SSHD. They are not as fast a single cored SSD. I mean you still have to wait for the disk to spin up. The SSD part is more like a buffer. We store most access files in it then once it is rescanned new files are then sent from the SSD to the disk and back.
It is a HDD with a buffer that may last 2 or 5 weeks.
Learn your shit you dumb cunt and buy a fucking ssd.
>>51586032
>software raid>hardware raid
Mate if you rely on software raid then gg to your files when the next errors happens.
At least with linux that error is not time soon. TO you window gay cunts. GG VERY SOON.
Is the san disk plus just a rebranded old ultra plus sold for cheaper?
>>51586670
>THREE
What the fuck
>>51585724
>Come watch smallville with me. I once too what wasting my life with HDD no waste it with smallville.
what
>>51584951
Why the fuck would you even want to own a hard drive for 15 years? They don't last nearly that long on average but I can't imagine anyone would want to use 15 year old hardware today unless they're in 3rd world-tier poverty.
I have yet to see any proof that an SSD is able to go into read only mode other than one Intel SSD in that endurance test. But after a reboot it was unreadable. So good luck getting your data off them if they go tits up.
>>51584576
play on linux
wine
desu kek senpai
>>51586670
this is the stupidest post in this whole thread. Everything you said was wrong, even your claim that you own 3 SSHDs is obviously false when you clearly don't know shit about them
>single cored SSD
>>51584774
>http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html
I knew that backblaze was a WD sonspered company and i knew thay got dives from the 2011 tsunami period i'm glade I was proven right thank you anon.
>>51585226
WHAT THE FUCK
WHY ARE THE DRIVES 5000 FUCKING DOLLARS
That settles it. I'm making SSD + Tape recc's a new meme.
>>51583962
me too lad.
>NZ prices are fucking high on everything
>see US prices
>cry.
https://www.mightyape.co.nz/Computers/Components/Hard-Drives/All
when will these prices go down i'm sick of this shit being jew'd for my money.
>>51583962
I fell for this. What I learned is ssds are really fucking picky To the settings. To get the true performance I had to make a huge RAM cache and 20% over-provisioning. This applies less to bigger drives but still.
>>51584053
Putting platter drives is any desktop or laptop is fuck traded at this point. Medium size SSD + small storage server (4 1tb drives in raid Z for 3tb fault tolerant storage) running freenas is the way to go
>>51587384
Forgot the pic, 128 version.
>>51585255
It's just neo-/g/
I used to play video games with /g/ and they were some of the better people out there.
Played PSO:BB with /v/ back in 2009 and some people from /g/ came in. /v/ was all drama, being faggots, and talking about how they wanted to be girls/take hormones. /g/ pops in quietly, and just plays the game as loli robutts. /v/ screams about pedos but /g/ just shuts up and fucking contributes to the team.
>>51584558
Chaika a best.
>>51587775
anime on paskaa
>>51586813
yeah in other words, a pure SSD.
You do know you can get core SSD. They are devices which process data like a CPU. Compresses data, processes its location and then send it to that sector.
I mean how retarded do you have to be to not consider these devices.
is this garbage? is there going to be anything better in the very near future?
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4973/sandforce-identifies-firmware-bug-causing-bsod-issue-fix-available-today
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4625/intel-testing-firmware-fix-for-ssd-320-8mb-power-bug
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8617/samsung-releases-firmware-update-to-fix-the-ssd-840-evo-read-performance-bug
http://techreport.com/review/27727/some-840-evos-still-vulnerable-to-read-speed-slowdowns
>SSD
>reliable
TOPPEST LELKEK
Feels good to be HDD-free
Is Kingston SSDNow v300 a good SSD?
It's really cheap right now compared to Samsung.
>>51584053
If I were to buy an SSD to add to an existing machine for this purpose what's the best way to transfer the OS to the SSD?
