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Web development edition.

Old Thread >>52833238

>IRC Channel
#/g/wdg @ irc.rizon.net
Web client: https://www.rizon.net/chat

>Learning material
https://www.codecademy.com/
https://www.bento.io/
https://programming-motherfucker.com/
https://github.com/vhf/free-programming-books/blob/master/free-programming-books.md
https://www.theodinproject.com/

>Frontend development
https://github.com/dypsilon/frontend-dev-bookmarks

>Backend development
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_application_frameworks

>Useful tools
https://pastebin.com/q5nB1Npt/
https://libraries.io/ - Discover new open source libraries, modules and frameworks and keep track of ones you depend upon.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web - Guides for HTML, CSS, JS, Web APIs & more.

>NEET guide to web dev employment
https://pastebin.com/4YeJAUbT/
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Those jobs like lionbridge or whatever in the quakeroats pastebin.

Are they actually decent? I would love to do that for work if I can get 40 hours a week out of it and they dont do random layoffs.
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>>52868693
bumping.

How do get into this distributed meme? I want to have a cluster of 3 machines running the same array of containers in docker, I can get networking and shit working fine using swarm.

My problems start at the application layer, using Go I want a fast KV store for exchanging shit like sessions within the cluster, but it's now clear that none of the bindings really support redis's "cluster" mode, using haproxy seems retarded since i'll just have a single point of failure again(i mean i could run it on the cluster but then how do i distribute the requests and data? still can't use cluster mode due to no "MOVE" support, using replicas as hot spares with sentinal only makes things more complicated).

Ideas?
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>>52867030
glad you figured it yourself, somehow longer to do but easier to memorize.

As an other anon said, you don't have to put www. before. http:// is enough.

I make that mistake often when I began web dev, it makes me smile that you are doing the same.
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Should I sign up for cloudflare?
I mean I already have valid certificate, what else would their free plan offer?
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Anybody have any experience with these books? Thinking about picking them up.
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>>52869447
this book looks fantastic
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In light of recent news about GitHub, what's a good alternative that people use?
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Looking into getting into front end development.
Can someone give me a quick run down between the main frameworks (Angular, React, and Ember, from what I understand) and the major differences between them? And if one is better to start with.
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>>52869759
TFS

fuck freetards.
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Do any of you work professionally as a webdev? I do and I'm just curious how many here do as well.
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>>52869792
http://whichcatisyourjavascriptframework.com/

>>52869812
graduated in september, not working yet but will do in a couple months
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Does anyone have experience or information on working in Europe? I would love to move out there once I graduate even if its just for a year.

Do european firms look for western coders? Are there any sites that specialize in it?

I don't even care about the pay, I just think it would be such an amazing experience.
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>>52869906
europe is western you dumbcuck
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>>52869918
only west germany you uneducated swine
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>>52869918

North america, fuck off you pedantic cuck
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>>52869906
define europe please
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>>52869759
your own?
someone suggested a few days ago making your own by running git --bare...
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>>52869963
you mean US and Canada?
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>>52869759
If you don't care about the "social" aspect,
Bitbucket. Private repos are free as long as you don't have more than 5 collaborators (in all repos combined, that is). Collaborators as in "people with Bitbucket account with access to repo", not "commit authors".
Alternatively, GitLab (especially since you can host your own instance, if you want).
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>>52870014

Its that continent that starts with EU and ends in ROPE

Does anyone have some real advice? I'm Serbian, live in Canada, visit my sister every in France and travel through neighbouring countries almost yearly; I know europe I just misspoke. If you guys want to stop being pedantic 13 year olds I'd apprechiate some actual insight.

>>52869759

Install gitlab ce on a vps and just host your own or you dont even need github, you can still have a remote repository without the visual interface.
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>>52870082
Which will allow me to show projects to potential employers?

Some fucking dickhead got every mobile IP in this area banned. Fuck.
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>>52870178
CAZZIN LET'S GO BAWLING
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>>52870178
Well we are really open in Europe but we don't like sociopathic fucks like you. If you want advices, start by being more friendly.
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>>52869812
I do.
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What are some things that people who work in web dev might know that outsiders don't? What surprised you when first getting into the field?

Posted from my MacBook Pro®
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kissing max .. are you here, based anon?

I am haeving problems. I installed my theme, started added pages, the whole shebang. The thing is, when I try to clutter up my homepage with widgets, the ones on the Themeforest site don't seem to be here.

I also have them on the .psd file that came with it, listed as "icon boxes". Pic related.

I would like to add some to my new WP site, with any random icons that look like pic related, the "Powerful Admin" thing. What do?
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What's the simplest (most minimal!) way to make page where I can send a curl POST request to to upload files.

I'm currently using some python cgi script I wrote but it's really slow
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Why can't I activate the third box?
What am I doing wrong?
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>>52871136
I have changed the second one to activate-step-3, still doesnt work
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>>52871136
aren't you missing a button?
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>>52871136
how do you activate your third one?
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>>52871330
No, but it was the JS that caused the problem. Thanks anyway anon
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How can I live update my pages with PHP?

Getting real tired of refreshes.
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>>52871452
Back in my days i'd tell you to google AJAX, but in todays hipster bullshit world you probably have to use something.js with a .io homepage
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>>52871452
>How can I live update my pages with PHP?
You can't.

A php script is executed only once when the user makes an HTTP request.

That being said you can use JavaScript to make HTTP requests from the front end and then change the page HTML when you receive data.

Google AJAX.
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How can I make the boxes appear next to each other on smaller devices? I tried display: inline; but that did not solve anything... The nav is placed inside <ul> </ul>
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>>52871897
FLEXBOX
F L E X B O X
FLEX
BOX
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>>52869906
European web dev here. I work in Northern Europe.

It might be hard to find a job here as a foreign without speaking the local language. Even though in every medium to large company all the documentation and code is in English they're a bit hesitant to hire foreign people that don't speak the language. That's because even if the official language is English people tend communicate in the local language whenever they can. It isn't impossible to find work but makes it harder. If you're already living there it becomes easier, living abroad, especially outside Europe, and not knowing the language will make finding a job really hard. That's because all of EU is a single region without the need for visas when it comes to finding new workers.

My company just got rid of all our Indian codemonkeys and has been hiring new local devs. And I've heard a lot of similar stories during the last couple of years.

Having lived in multiple places around the US and EU I'd take Europe over the US in a heartbeat, even with the current developments. But I'll not go deeper into the reasons here as it would need it's own thread.
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>>52871897

Or, if you don't want to use flex, float left/right.
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>>52870617

can anyone help?

how do I get the icons? no coding bc i'm an eejit
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How come all MVC frameworks suck balls except ASP.NET MVC?
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>>52871911
>>52871974
>use flexbox
>make lovely page layout
>test it in internet explorer
>have to redo the whole thing using floats.
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>>52872090
Rails is alright m8.
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>>52872135
>i still support deprected software
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>>52871911
>>52871974
Thanks!
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>>52872172

not him, but

>having a choice either way

Do you even work in the industry? I've luckily convinced our team lead to switch to flexbox with js fallbacks, but unless you're running the show, you do what you're told.
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>>52872160
But that means dealing with Ruby and gems.
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>>52872135
Should have used Bootstrap papi
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>>52872090
lol
perhaps you got used to the framework that sucks balls the most :)
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>>52871996

tldr i should have just read the documentation
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What screen width/height cut offs should I be using for displaying a site in mobile/desktop view?
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>>52872216
Yes I work in the industry. And I understand that you do what you're told if you aren't running the show. However you can highly influence what you need to do by picking a place that has policies that actually me sense.

We had dropped IE9 support ages ago and IE10 was dropped right after MS dropped it's support.

>>52872364
When your design starts looking bad you create a new breakpoint. We can't tell you which sizes you should have your breakpoints at if we can't see your design.
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>>52869906
I worked in Berlin, english was spoken in the office. The pay wasn't that great, but it was cheap to live there. Germans are much more formal about degrees, experience, and specialisation. I'd recommend it.
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>>52872090
> .NET
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>>52872226
But they're retardedly easy to deal with.
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shit i fucked up so bad

i changed the general settings on WP, removed the /wp/ from the end of the URL, now the site is dead

i think i moved the root

shit shit shit
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best way to center the nav like this?
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Seriously what's the goddamn point of Angular if you know about design patterns already and aren't a complete imbecile when it comes to writing modular scripts?
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>>52869447
I checked it out at my college library and I can honestly say it's a great resource. It really develops the way you approach a problem. It made me understand the way javascript is much more computational than jquery
for dom traversal and manipulation.
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>>52871957
>northern europe

Which county specifically?
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A good php book for someone who only knows html and css ?
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>>52874329
you want to learn programming in general, or just php?
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Let's say I'm creating a css/html page of a restaurant menu like in the pic. How could I make the dots/ellipsis on a webpage mimic what they're doing in the pic? Can it be done through pure css/html or do I need javascript/jquery. What do I Google to learn more about this?
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>>52874329
>there are people who actually read books in order to learn PHP

If you know HTML and CSS, you should learn Javascript next, since that's the scripting language that the browser runs. If you want to continue into web development you'll need to have some understanding of Javascript. Plus you can use it for server-side scripting if you learn to use Node.js

Javascript is also an excellent and powerful programming language and anyone who denies this simple fact is a moron who can't use it.
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>>52873699
unordered list and use padding-left/padding-right on the list items? put the image in its own div so the padding of "vita gioielli" and "trollbeads" would space it out accordingly? (im just a noob so i could be COMPLETELY wrong.)
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where can I learn how to open up my homemade webserver to the internet?
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>>52874975
why can't you literally make dots ......... in a different font so they are bigger but still
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>>52874329
O'Reily's Learning PHP Design Patterns is very good for an introduction to OOP. You may need to do like a codeacademy thing for PHP to get your bearings first tho.
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>>52875045
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>>52875045
because i'm not creating a fixed width page. sorry, i should have mentioned that.
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>>52875108
just use a 4x4x4 column grid system? Use floats? I'm not sure what your problem is.
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>>52875108
Calculate the width and add the dots using javascript ?
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>>52875125
uhhh. let me put it this way:

"item ............................ $price" on a small screen display like an old smartphone.

now i open the webpage on a 4k monitor.
"item ..................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... $price"

the number of ellipses need to be dynamically generated for a given viewport size.
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>>52875130
okay, so i would do it with javascript -- that answers my question, thanks. i wasn't sure if there was some sort functionality in CSS that could do it.
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I've been teaching myself for 6 months. I made a portfolio site with a bunch of projects, mostly JavaScript, HTML and CSS stuff: Little games like Tic-Tac-Toe, a Chrome search & replace extension, some pages that call APIs, etc.

It seems like most jobs are in PHP, WordPress, and HTML/CSS, but the best ones are JS frameworks and back-end stuff. I like algorithmic coding, but my understanding of how the back-end works is still weak.

Any suggestions on what I should focus on learning and what kinds of work I should aim for?
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>>52875034
you need to open ports in your router, to "route" them to your web server
HOWEVER, this is not the right way to do what you want to do. use a dedicated web server, you can get one for cheap or even for free (amazon, google's app engine free, heroku, openshift, etc)

if you want to learn more about this, I'd suggest asking in >>>/g/flt or in >>>/g/sqt . sadly, there is no networking thread anymore...
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>>52875034
You need to open port 80 in router.
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>>52875278
do you know some programming language?
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>>52874975
Here you go.

http://codepen.io/anon/pen/jWQLLe
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>>52875408
Only JS. I did the CodeCademy tutorials on Python, SQL, etc., but that barely counts. I did all the JS algorithm puzzles on CodeCademy, Free Code Camp, and some other sites, and used it in all my projects.
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>>52875278
Here's a good guide of what you should learn if you're looking to get into webdev.

https://coggle.it/diagram/52e97f8c5a143de239005d1b/56212c4e4c505e0045c0d3bda59b77e5977c2c9bd40f3fd0b451bdcf8da4aa52

The guy who made this has a good youtube channel, the links go there.
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I know all the stuff I need to make a website but it still looks like shit. Any ideas?

Also, where can I learn about making responsive design without something like bootstrap, or should I Just import bootstrap's grid system every time?
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>>52875487
thanks, i'll read through it.
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>>52875545
Thanks. Should i continue down the front end path or go for back end next? I want to do it all eventually but what's the best strategy for a good job soon?
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>>52875005
I see you. But I'm guessing it would be better done by aligning everything (the <ul>) centrally with margins separating them, and in the middle of the list the image will be there with it's own set of padding/margins.
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>>52875798
I dunno dude. Pick whichever one you like the best.

By the way you don't need to know every single thing on that diagram to be employable.

Here's a video where the guy explains the diagram.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pB0WvcxTbCA
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>>52875488
then why the hell do you want to learn PHP? learn node.js, it's a bit convoluted, but at least it's not PHP, with all the bad things it implies
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>>52875278
>be me
>decide to do webdev professionally 6 months ago after faffing around with it as a hobby for years
>decide to focus on Javascript frameworks like Angular, React and Node.js
>proceed to learn lots, fill in the gaps in my knowledge
>bang out a couple of example projects and slap them on my github
>start looking for a job just before Christmas
>live in the North of England
>not exactly silicon valley
>all jobs are fucking PHP and ASP.NET.
>apply for the PHP ones because I kinda know PHP.
>get plenty of interviews
>end up having successful interview
>Its not even PHP, the guy wants me to learn Ruby on Rails
>learn RoR it for about a week
>can just about throw together a simple example application
>have another interview for apparently the only Node.js job in the region
>end up getting the job and getting paid more than I was expecting.

It's been an adventure

So learn what you're interested in, someone will probably pay you to do it. Enthusiasm and knowledge about a thing that you're interested in is going to be better in an interview than "I learned PHP because there's a lot of jobs going".

But really just learn anything, once you can program using one language you can easily transfer to another. If you end up having to take a PHP job its not the end of the world.
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>>52876015
Following your footsteps soon. Im pretty excited.
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>>52872135
>build site
>cross compatibility is tight as fuck
>breezing through tests
>time for IE
>site looks like someone just opened up their anus and shat into my eyeballs

thanks IE : ___ )
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>>52876015
>>apply for the PHP ones because I kinda know PHP.
>>get plenty of interviews
>>end up having successful interview
>>Its not even PHP, the guy wants me to learn Ruby on Rails
sad state of the industry tbqh
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>>52876015
>be me

stopped right there
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>>52870433
That web programming is way more complicated than systems programming.
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>>52876015
>So learn what you're interested in, someone will probably pay you to do it. Enthusiasm and knowledge about a thing that you're interested in is going to be better in an interview than "I learned PHP because there's a lot of jobs going".
I reached the same thought a while ago. Good for you, Anon.
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so i'm in the middle of a very VERY awful web development program at my university. i've been basically teaching myself everything from the start. i can do basic personal/company sites with only html and css and some of them use a random bit of php or js here or there. i want to move on to something a bit more complex.

http://simpleradar.com/

i have seen LOTS of sites that are basically the same as this one and i want to learn to create it from scratch.

where should i even start?
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>>52876839
just FYI
that site wasn't built from scratch at all, literally just copied and pasted.

images aren't even optimized either
jesus christ what a mess

get good at js basically
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>>52876966
i figured that because i have seen a lot like them.

i'm just kind of wanting to know about the large functional parts of it i should learn about, like making a link that goes to a certain scroll point, etc
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>>52869447
This and his CSS book are both really good.
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How do I change all buttons in a web form that match a specific ID in C#?
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>take day off planning to learn new framework
>get sick
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So have to build a eCommerce site for a uni project, looking to code the theme etc from scratch, maybe using something like skeleton, need to probably learn some JS etc.

Heres the conundrum. How hard is it to code a backend for ecomerce and integrate it with something nice and secure like paypal or something? I know a bit of python and have messed with flask, but It's still pretty nerve wracking. Its gonna be used by a client for their actual business, so it needs to be easy to use and pretty good.

Should I code the entire backend or just find a package that I can design the frontend for. Any suggestions? Its a 400 hour project, including all the reports etc so would I even have the time considering I know pretty much no JS?
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>>52878917
Also, should I just code a backend so that I can keep it and use it in future projects as a bit of a "turnkey" solution to this problem? Or am I overthinking this massively? I'm almost completely on my own tutor wise.
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>>52878917
Google is your friend. If it's going to be used by a client, i recommend django as it is naturally secure and much more mature. There are several django ecommerce packages as well.
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>>52876015

>be like you 2 years ago.
>decided to do webdev after deciding that my current career path will lead me to eventual suicide.
>only wanted to do javascript and HTML5
>made some intranet examples and posted them on my portfolio on my website
>week later got a job offer as a entry level dev in IT
>first week, didnt touch any web... ended up inheriting an old fucking SharePoint 07 platform
>learned ASP / C# / PowerShell in 2 weeks.
>then pulled into other projects, doing NodeJS, Python, SCCM and Puppet automation, Orchestrator, OpenStack.
>demand more money and a title change after only working for 7 months, due to being full Systems Engineer DevOps role and not a webdev.
>Gets on salary x3 more pay.
>Puts goals this year, decom old SharePoint for SP16, New Citrix infrastructure, Skype for Business On-Prem, upgrade our primary SAN to 14 petabytes. .......and maybe do some webdev.

I need to take some time to get some certs, with my current background i could be making upwards of 160k if i had any education to show on my resume.
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>>52877015
>like making a link that goes to a certain scroll point
a basic example

 
<!-- yadda yadda -->
<a href="#theSpot">Head to the Spot</a>

<!-- lines and lines of yadda -->
<div id="theSpot">
<p> whatever </p>
</div>


Effectively, create anchor points (in the example above, it's noted by the "div id="theSpot"), and then wherever your link is, you just link to that id. That's the gist of it.
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>>52879118
So you think I should Opt to code it by hand?

In terms of making the site, should I get a static site up first and then build the backend, do it the other way around or just do it all at once? I'm a little lost on the "workflow" I should follow to make it all fit.
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>>52879172
wow, nice, congrats
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So I just started learning SQL, in the hopes of one day becoming a database technician, but really, IT scares me, I feel like I don't know enough ever, and really I just want to sit at an office, crank out work where I'm not under pressure constantly (previous job was fast food, now its a call center with back to back to back calls) and I can just enjoy making stuff and maintaing stuff. I don't want to be some hotshot, I just want like 40 to 60,000 a year so I don't have to worry. Is front end web dev good for this or will it be inevitably freelancing forever and not having any office-type groups where you're just on a team working?
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>>52879326
In anything data driven(like ecommerce), the data models should be the single source of truth. i.e., write the backend first. You don't have to build the payment architecture yourself, just use something like braintree.
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>>52879534

A good DBA is always a good commodity in IT that is a pretty sought after position to be filled. You can sit all day and manage and monitor SQL DBs run by several departments and tune and manage mission critical content, and right around your pay bracket too.

Even if you never touch a front end, sysadmins will still love you for keeping DBs clean, compacted, optimized, and not eat up Disk, or have bad queries result in expensive memory writes that burn off page.

Business Intelligence people will also suck your dick for keeping their Data fresh.
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>>52879172
What were these intranet examples?
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>>52879645

literally just simple templates of HTML pages in BS3 using a bit of jquery and javascript. It was designed to look at a corporate internal webpage. My employer liked it, thinking i was just going to build some fucking webpages.

I made the mistake of not asking "what are you currently using as an intranet now". When i got in the job and started my first week, they had this SharePoint 2007 and SharePoint 2003 environment that was just BEYOND me. I ended up teaching myself asp.net and C# to take over that system. That was my trial by fire intro into being a sysadmin and not a webdev.
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Beginner here, so I have this url

www.website.com/folder/image.png

how do I rewrite the url to

www.website.com/folder/[sha256 of image.png]

on windows iis7 here
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>>52879855

You can write your own encryption algo and host it on your webserver.

or you can use a tool online like this?
http://hash.online-convert.com/sha256-generator

then publish your newly encrypted file on your webserver.
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Any worth while tutorials for node?
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>>52873882
Lets put it this way. A lot of my colleagues have worked for a major mobile phone manufacturer that has stopped making phones but is still a huge player on the network side.
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Any PHP man in?

When I'm running XAMPP and my XMLHttpRequest Object readystate is stuck at one (i.e connection established), but wont hit two (request received) what does that indicate? Do I have to fuck around in PHP.ini?

Might also be because of the request header, im trying to upload a file but using form-encoded or whatever.

Tips? Call me a fucking idiort? I feel like one.
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>>52880203
oh sorry thread is die.
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>>52879602

Thats neat, I don't know how to break into that field of operation, like what the career path would be from foot in the door to working as a DBA or even under as a DBA.

Web Dev still interests me, but I'm wondering if it would be consistently scrounging for work or if you'd hit a steady patch where you could work at a.. firm.. or whatever manages development teams. I'm the kind of person that needs consistency with jobs. But I don't wnat to be the guy, just another cog/grunt that pushes things along.
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>>52879602
What the fuck do Business Intelligence people do?
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Hey guys. Can anyone help. I'm making my first Wordpress site.

Whilst editing the site, I had [domain].com/wp as the "home" page. When I go to general settings and alter the Site URL to [domain].com, I get a 404 and have to manually re-change it back to [domain].com/wp in my phpAdminpanel in cpanel.

How can I fix this to [domain].com?
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>>52880307
I've never messed with it but typically these services default to something like an index page. If you don't change it entering www.domain.com won't return an actual page.
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Is it bad that my pages take 20ms to generate?
It's all because of fucking preg_replace being slow as shit
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>>52880323

that's right, when I do that it says 404 index.php file is missing.

how do I alter this? pls
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How do I force if I have some text in a li "Request a quote" when it reaches the page border I want the whole thing to start on a new line, rather than Quote goes on a new line, then "A" as it gets smaller.

Is there a way to force it to overflow as one element?
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>>52879855

I feel like, whatever you trying to do, is probably wrong.
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>>52879946
Generating a SHA256 of a file does not encrypt it.
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>>52880351
I've no clue to b h.
maybe create an index.php and just have it re-direct user to /wb or whatever
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>>52880368

Nevermind I am an idiot, thought it was already on inline-block.
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>>52868693
Is MVC a coorperate meme or is it actually useful?
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>>52880045
So sweden then.

I'm actually moving to stockholm in june, hoping to land a front end dev job at an agency there. What are my prospects as a UK born developer with 2.5 years experience and a foundation degree?
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>>52880958
Pretty good I'd say. It's easy to find jobs within EU as there's no need for visas or any other bureaucracy bs. All you need is a place to sleep at and you're set to start working. And Swedish companies aren't th afraid of hiring people who can't speak Swedish as they understand their language is a minority language and the work is done is English anyway. Germany and the France are the countries where you'll have the most problems finding work as someone who only speaks English.

Sweden is probably one of the best places on earth to live at. A bit less with all the yes sweden shit that's been going on but it's stopping and you can avoid most of the effects by not living in the immigrant infested areas. I'm also pretty sure the only social democrats that can into maths are in Sweden.

The pay won't be the same as in SV but neither is the cost of living.
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>>52869759
Never had a problem with bitbucket. Free private repos
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Are there any websites that help you partner up with someone for a project (paid, open source, startup, etc) ?

Not a freelancing site, but one where people post project ideas and they can team up to make it happen?
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>>52869812
Just left my job at a Web firm to do it full time from home with my own clients. It's pretty rad
>>
decided to use bootstrap for our app that will be used for some years

should i wait for 4 or go for 3?
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>>52881194
Go with 3. Bootstrap 4s been "on its way out" for months
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>>52875149
You can do this quite nicely in JavaScript with innerHTML (for writing the periods) and a for loop (to write the periods until a condition (the desired width) is met.)
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>>52880394
Trying to integrate something with my office file server that had no documentation, just doing a rough job while I try to contact the old developer.
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>>52881206
There is an alpha out, right? Its not even that much of a change.
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>>52881106
github I guess?
Hell if I know, I'd also would like some work while I am home workless
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>>52881195
Michael's tech support?
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>>52881265
I guess github would be the closest thing.

Someone make this into a thing please
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>>52881366
Been thinking of working on something like this. Anyone wanna team up to build the team up site
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>>52881399
There is three of us I think. We can all make some shitty websites and put them in our portfolios or something
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>>52881433
familiar with laravel?
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>>52881441
A .net developer sadly
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>>52881052
Thanks, it's good to know i won't be at a disadvantage for not knowing swedish (I intend to learn anyway).

Do you work at an agency or a larger company that sells SAAS? Does your company help with training its more junior developers? I want to get into reactjs
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>>52881445
Dang
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>>52880958
>nokia is swedish
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>>52881590
I thought it was Ericsson too
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>>52881476
Work for a bank. So it goes to your latter category.

As for the language you most likely won't need it for the job but knowing it makes everyday life much easier, even though most swedes speak great English.

>>52881590
>>52881605
It doesn't really matter. Both the countries are really similar and I've lived in both of them. Though if you can choose Sweden is the one where you want to be.
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I started to learn ruby and rails for some personal projects and im constantly asking myself where the fuck I have been in the past few years. It is so awesome jesus christ
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So how do I realize something like a game lobby in PHP?
Thought about making the lobby in a MySql DB in which you can check in and out. The problem would be to check if the dude is actually still in the lobby, something like sending a "pulse" every 15 seconds or so and cleaning up with a cronjob. But that sounds incredible clunky.
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>>52881820
Been wanting to learn ror but I can make the same stuff in php super quick and haven't gotten the damn time to learn new stuff
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>>52881863
when I looked into this a while ago it was recommended to use sockets. Not sure but worth looking into
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>>52881891
Ohhh I didnt even know PHP supported that. Thats nice, thats probably a viable solution. Thanks.
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I've been offered not one job, but two!
And I don't mean like, an interview, they've both asked when I'll start.

So who do I ditch?
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So what does /wdg/ think of muh architecture? number of sites/services is going to be around 40, sessions are persisted through the cluster using redis replicas in ro mode, writes go back to the master where the primary database is.
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>>52882017
Pick whichever pays better
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>>52882017
Dont do this >>52882275

Look at both the jobs. Then create pros/cons lists of both of them, somehow go through those and pick the one which seems better.

For example I'd rather get paid a bit less if it means that I'll get to have flexible hours, some paid holidays and no dress code. Ain't nobody gonna survive in corporate hell.
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What job should I aim to get if I want to work remotely? I want to be a digital nomad and be able to work anywhere in the world with an internet connection. I'm currently studying accountancy and was considering a change.

I am willing to study new skills in my spare time in the evenings and weekends, there are so many online resources of high quality nowadays the internet has really opened it up.
>>
So I have an angular app, and my friend built a page for me using jQuery and all these weird javascript libraries. I told him to use angular but I guess he chose not to.

The page loads fine if you serve it by itself, but once you put it into the angular app everything is broken. A lot of the javascript doesn't load correctly, random elements are hidden, and some CSS doesn't load.

Anyone have an idea why this is happening?
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>>52882526
Are you lazy loading the scripts or just adding them to the page?
Maybe they are conflicting with each other.
Maybe you dont even have jquery loaded?
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>>52882561
>>52882526
No, wait fuck this.
Go to stackoverflow and make a normal question like a normal person and they will help you.
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>>52882572
okay well thanks anyways anon
>>
what web development framework should I learn? What is the most popular?
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>>52882837
I'm going to develop a simple project in PHP and I want it to be my first project using a framework, I heard symfony was quite good.
What does /g/ recommend?
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>>52869759
what recent news about github?
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>>52883021
http://www.businessinsider.com/github-identity-crisis-2016-2

I wasn't aware either, but it only took me 20 seconds to find out you sloth.
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>>52882837
It literally comes down to personal preference. I prefer Node.js and Express or Koa, Javascript is extremely popular and its nice not having a context-switch penalty when changing languages between front and backend.

Ruby on Rails is nice. Python and Django or Flask are nice.

PHP is old but quite ubiquitous, still used a lot and has decent frameworks like Laravel and Symphony.

ASP.NET is also still around and people use it.

So fuck it, pick one that you like. They're all very capable.
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>>52883254
I like how that article completely glosses over the SJW diversity bullshit that is actually making people leave.
>>
Fugg.

All the hipsters are trying to turn in their awful web design degrees to be devs.

Get the jobs now while they are hot.
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>>52883254

Why does that affect anyone here?
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>>52883021
it was doing just fine as a community resource.

shareholders want to corporatize it to make more profit.
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>>52883600
>implying I even have a degree
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>>52883618
>>52883596

Ahh ok, but If I plan on using it as a place to store my code for employers to view, that doesn't really effect me does it, its the community that has gone to pot.

Also fuck me that image
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>>52882017
would pick logi, would be more relax and fun
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>>52883596
It's hip to be racist and sexist against white males.
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>>52883663
Well if you ever do publish something that gains popularity, expect a boatload of useless nu-male tumblr vultures to pick through your code and submit issues because they were triggered by code comments or variable names.

https://github.com/letsencrypt/acme-spec/issues/1
https://github.com/apple/swift/pull/165
https://github.com/django/django/pull/2692
https://github.com/Alir3z4/django-base64field/issues/8
https://github.com/wooorm/alex/issues/62
https://github.com/bmuller/gender_detector/pull/14
https://github.com/NARKOZ/hacker-scripts/issues/14
https://github.com/nodejs/node/issues/3721
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>>52883663
>its the community that has gone to pot.
That is a company diversity meeting.

That is literally github employees.
>>
Are people getting jobs from job sites or are they just spamming their resume/portfolio to hr departments?
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>>52883721

Wow. I didn't realise it was that bad.
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>>52883748
I had plenty of recruiters calling me after I put my resume on a job site.

There are some IT specialist job boards, I recommend sticking to them rather than using fucking Monster.
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>>52883618
I have 4 repos so far (and other people here probably a lot more than 4) and they're all on GitHub. It's easy to use and I cant be assed to change to a new one and have to update everything else in accordance
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>>52883715
holy shit*


* i mean "holy crap" :))))))))))
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>>52883715

Do these people commenting have jobs? I genuinely find this worrying that I am training for an industry where I will HATE everyone around me.

I am not /pol/ tier but I don't want to be fired for racism because I said "Some of the biggest barriers to progress are white women" is stupid.
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New to media queries (and everything really) here.

I want to have a section split into half and stack on top of each other when the page gets to a certain width, I am currently using the Skeleton boilerplate and the full width screen is two 6 column divs next to eachother.

My issue is the boilerplate wants to keep a 12 column width at all times when I want it to split when the screen is under a certain size.
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>>52883914
You're entering an industry predominantly populated by nerds, guys who are known for having shitty social skills, being unable to enforce their boundaries, and generally being passive betas.

These tendencies are naturally going to lead to some of them becoming nu-male white knights, and lead to other undesirable things in the industry's culture. Such as working ridiculously long hours because people simply don't know how to say no:
>http://www.daedtech.com/the-beggar-ceo-and-sucker-culture/

If anything we need reasonable people like you to counteract this tidalwave of bullshit.
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I want to make quick money. I'm thinking to learn Flash/AS3 and make little flash games to get sponsored by Armorgames and Kongregate and such. I know, it's inferior to HTML5/JS, but I really like ArmorGames' sponsorship program and they only accept Flash. Just one flat sponsorship check and that's it, no relying on ad revenue or views or anything.

Anyone know any good Flash development tools for Linux? They seem mostly made just for Windows, except for qflash which is out of date and won't compile.
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>>52884105
>I'm thinking to learn Flash/AS3
>Armorgames and Kongregate
Wow... welcome to 2005. Flash is literally deader than dead

Why not make html5/javascript games, wrap them in a simple webview, and slap them up on mobile app stores? Get ad revenue or charge for premium versions that remove the ads
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>>52884105
didn't you get the memo? flash is dead, all hail based html5
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>>52884105
>They seem mostly made just for Windows
try wine or a vm
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>>52884105
If you want actual money then you should be browsing those websites to rip of the best ideas.

Helicopter, Crush the Castle etc
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>>52884105
Then go with HTML5 on Kongregate and suggest Armor (like probably a lot of people) to accept HTML5. They will have to eventually.
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>>52884105
>>52884284
Also, http://developers.armorgames.com/
>2015-09-09 17:48:46
>Introducing HTML5 Support!
>We are introducing HTML5 support to Armor Games. You can now upload your HTML5 games in zip format. We expect an index.html file at the root of the zip file, no more than 500MB post-extraction, and no more than 1000 files. Please let us know if you have any questions. We look forward to your creativity adapted to

(yes, it cuts off like that)
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What's the current javascript meme framework?
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>>52884361
For front end? AngularJS or still JQuery

Backend is Koa or Nodal.
>>
What's a good HTML5 responsive theme to use for Wordpress? Something with all the bells and whistles.

Don't mind a paid version.
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>>52884361
Unfortunately, not Parenscript
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>>52884361
ReactJS is the new angularJS meme
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>>52884193
Because the ArmorGames business model is fucking solid. You submit your game in one swf file, if they like it they give you a 1 to 3 thousand dollar check and stick their logo on it, maybe ask you to include some armorgames-only content. That much money for a week or two is a really good deal, no matter how "dead" the media form is.

And because you get your money in one flat payment, you don't need to care if anyone uses it afterwards.
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>>52884272
I know. I haven't ruled out doing that, though I'd like to make a couple original games to satisfy my artistic tastes as well. I'm thinking pretty basic metroidvania type platformers or LttP clones, those are always good games if the art and maps are well done.
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>>52884541
So you're going from
>I want to learn flash
to
>I will bang out a high-quality game in 1-2 weeks and receive a $3000 check, and I will do this without spending years practising making Flash games.

I used to make flash games back in 2003 and posted them on Newgrounds. If you think that you can bang out a decent game in 1-2 weeks, and have someone pay you thousands of dollars for it, then you're going to be bitterly disappointed.

A better path to money is to get a job. Spend 1-2 years learning programming, focus on a specific language, get hired as a junior developer, get like $35k-50k per year.
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>>52884661
Agreed with this.

6 months of making a game for 3k is a terrible plan.
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Anyone with a real simple trick to prevent from scrolling? I don't want overflow:hidden, i need to really block the scroll bar (when activating a button).

This is for my menu, when i clik on the menu button, an overlay takes over.
js/css
>>
What is some /hacker/ tier music to listen to while coding? I've been listening to The Downward Spiral while learning lately and it's just great. Makes me feel like a true hackerman.
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how the fuck do I into asp.net MVC?

How do I even a simple web page? All the tutorial are just all about muh models and scaffolding but I just want to show a web page right now and I have no idea how half this shit works
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>>52884814
I like new retro personally

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY1s9SmrQRE&list=RDDY1s9SmrQRE
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>>52884929
>I don't want to learn how this thing works
>How do I make it work?

Just do PHP if you're too stupid to learn.
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>>52884934
I have Carpenter Brut all over my Spotify. Good stuff.
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>>52885073
Its a playlist with other similar stuff
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>>52884929
Yeah, Tyrone, seconding >>52884953. MVC might be a bit too much for you at this point.
If you just want a single web page to rep your hood an' sheeeeiiiit, PHP might be a better choice; or even just static HTML. JS might give you some interactivity without developing this whole complex scary backend, leave dat shit to us, crackaz and chinks.

Gnomesayin'?
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>>52884812
Uh, what?

Probably just container what I want to show z-index of a billion and then set that container to fixed when button is pushed.
>>
>>52883652
This
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>>52883600
>having a web design degree
christ what a waste.
>>
>>52885223
don't hack it

just append to the scroll event and fire event.preventDefault() when a variable is set...
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>>52880507
MVC is good because separating logic and UI stuff is good. If you can do that without MVC then MVC is worthless. You should learn it anyway if you're planning on doing web development with more people than yourself. ("Knowing it" but not having experience isn't good enough.)
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>>52884027

Any help here greatly appreciated.
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>>52884814
juno reactor
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>>52884027
jsfiddle / jsbin or didnt happened
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>>52886238

Am I meant to include the Skeleton CSS file in that?
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>>52884814

The Matrix soundtrack.
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Noob here. How do I connect my css, js and jQuery pages to my html in Sublime? I know it has to do with the header tags but it seems like no matter what I try it doesn't work.
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How do I get the right div from acting like black to acting like red? I've tried wrapping everything in another div and specifying that div's width and doing other stuff but nothing I do works. Sorry for the stupid question; I feel like there's an obvious answer but I've been doing things for awhile I think should work and they don't.
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>>52886356
On the html page before the
</head>
tag you put:
<link rel="stylesheet" href="your_css_file.css">


Then at the bottom of the page just before the
</body>
tag put your Javascript:

Put jQuery on the page
<script type="text/javascript" src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-2.1.4.min.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Link your javascript file
<script type="text/javascript" src="your_javascript_file.js" charset="utf-8" /></script>


Or type the javascript on the page itself
<script type="text/javascript" charset="utf-8" />
console.log("fag");
</script>


This is pretty basic stuff. You should do some tutorials.
>>
Anyone have any recommendations for learning Cold Fusion?
>>
>>52886553
I think I just figured it out, I placed the 2nd div before the first and floated it to the right. I have some nonsense with absolute positioning going on in the left div though so after I did this there's some overlap. I'll probably just fiddle with margins until it makes sense.
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>>52886238

https://jsfiddle.net/85wbqrpd/

Ok, here it is recreated, don't worry about the odd logos above Phone, Email and Fbook, thats just because it doesn't have the webfont.

When you make the page smaller, one of the logos will go onto a new line, just before that point I want to force all the logos to go onto a new line under the links and address.

Edited link so its just the code and not collaborative version.
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>>52886889
Opinion acknowledged. I'd rather learn how those frameworks would accomplish this and apply it directly (because this is being done for learning purposes and fun anyway).
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>>52886713
Why would you?
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Social media retardo checking in.

I was given the task of generating a report that was just the number of unique Twitter users that were exposed to a set of tweets from 450+ different users.

These tweets weren't part of a campaign or anything, just random tweets.

I used their
/followers/ids
REST API endpoint to get the data, but there has to be a better way, right? The rate limiting there is insane.

People pointed me to twitter's analytics page, but I don't see how that helps me for the report I ran.
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>>52887015

semi-related but does anyone know if it's possible to archive someone's entire tweets?

Twitter doesn't allow you do to so, and only permits you to scroll bit-by-bit, meaning searching for a tweet from 2011 or whenever is tedious.

I wonder if somebody has written a script that download's someone's entire tweet history. It would be useful weapon in the cultural war against the progressive cuckolds that dominate social media.
>>
xpath is pretty neat
>>
Does anyone use Treehouse?
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>>52887490
seems like they screwed up their own website design
>>
>>52887490
No. But I thought Free Code Camp has a pretty okay curriculum for new learners.
>>
>>52887515
It's actually very intuitive.
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When designing a few sites with the intention if it being for a portfolio to get hired for a front end position, is it frowned upon to use a boilerplate like bootstrap.
>>
>>52887676
90% of them require you to use bootstrap or foundation so making at least one site with those frameworks will prove you know how to use them
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>>52887676
If you're a baker, and you're going to bake some bread to show that you can bake, in order to get hired as a baker... You don't build yourself an oven out of clay and stone, and cut wood with a stone hatchet to make the fire, and grind the flour from wheat that you grew yourself.

Use the tools that are available to you. Also look into making various JS frameworks like Angular and React.

You also don't need much, my github only has one or two example projects and I got hired. Fill your resume with buzzwords, and the names of languages, frameworks and libraries to get past the recruiters. I mean really, a recruiter might be looking for a "jQuery developer" and if you put "Javascript developer" on yoru resume, they won't understand the connection. There really are some clueless recruiters. Don't be afraid to spam buzzwords to tick all of their stupid boxes.
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>>52887833
where do you work mate (position/experience/etc)
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>>52887953
Just got hired. see >>52876015
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>>52872226
On the plus side, it seems easy and well documented and the hipster sjw crap left.
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>>52888285
Also it will prepare for the glorious Crystal.
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>>52881399
I'>>52881509
Lets just make it with Meteor. Literally the easiest to get it started.
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>>52886868
Add this to your stylesheet

@media (max-width: 750px) {
.six.columns{width:100%;}
}
>>
>>52868693
trying to install ruby on rails on debian 8 guest on a windows 7 host using his guide: https://github.com/rbenv/rbenv

when i run ruby i get "bash: ruby: command not found." what the fuck am i doing wrong, considering i followed the guide STEP FOR STEP. god fucking damnit do i hate this autistic piece of shit linux operating system.
>>
>>52886970

I am on a team that handles an internal company website that runs on Cold Fusion.

One of our plans is to convert it to PHP.
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How can I get my site to be more compressed? I feel like everything is stretched wide and I'm going for that more flowy, elongated look. I know I'm lacking content, so that could be part of the reason, but does anyone else have any ideas? general code critique?

http://cssdeck.com/labs/o0ym8dge
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>>52889078
justify your text and add some padding. divide your text into <p>aragraphs. But the layout is pretty fucked for a "compressed" vision of things
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Important POLL :

http://strawpoll.me/6774200

Pick one and justify.
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>>52889173
Just us Angular. If you don't understand, you should pick a new profession. hth
>>
I'm aiming to build a website that looks like link related

www.bambridgeaccountants.co.uk/

The source code tells me it was made using squarespace. But that's all I know.

I don't want to pay $25 bucks a month. Is there a theme like that site I can use? Thanks:)
>>
>>52889208
thanks for the tip
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