/build/ general,
there was no /build/ general,
this is the /build/ general,
BLACKED EDITION!!!!!!!
https://pcpartpicker.com
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
post deals and builds, because this is the /build/ general
not falling for the AMD meme, because all mATX boards are pemex trash.
does this look good?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6sV4cf
First time I create one, and actually going to make it for real(about time!), would appreciate any advise .
so far what I think I did right is the power supply, my teacher told me that to pick the correct power supply you need to add the watts that are going to be used, then add a extra 30%, so my total watts usage is 601w, so I wen with a 650 power supply gold, can anyone tell me if this is correct or maybe, just maybe is different when we talk about gaming computers?
also the motherboard, I am completely lost there, I just read some reviews and they say this one is pretty good for dual monitors.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RR9KvK
Looking at doing an upgrade to my desktop that I haven't touched in a couple years. Pic related is current build, parts list I'm looking at picking up.
Yay/nay?
Will anyone be doing a cyber monday gaming build? Or are you guys just buying parts as you come across them?
as they come babe
SSD's, HDD's, mice, and quite a few video cards went on sale early today. Most deals have settled but they were pretty good.
waiting on the processors, PSU's, and MONITORSSS next.
if you see something nice, just take it.
>>51556504
reply 4u>>51556560
Fuck.
Any hope of anything on this list going on sale?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8wPRcf
I'm worried that I'm too late and I missed out.
>Newegg's site is being slammed with traffic
>All the deals I wanted are probably gone by now
Help
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GR7wdC
I can't decide between ssd's
I already have a graphics card so I don't need that, otherwise does this look pretty solid?
Is this a good build for $700?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XnmL3C
How mandatory is an i5 for gaming these days?
What games will really punish me if I go with an i3 4170?
>>51557915
If you're getting a 2 core and focusing on single core performance, you might as well get a Pentium G3258 (dual core Haswell refresh, lacks the i3's hyperthreading but is unlocked so you can overclock the fuck out of it).
Looking for build advice.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hmGjdC
I did good on the CPU, mobo, and GPU, right? (GPU is $10 cheaper on Newegg with rebate, not listed on pcpartpicker for some reason).
Pretty sure I need to replace my PSU, both due to wattage and lacking an 8-pin PCIe power connector.
Should I reuse the RAM from my old build or pick up some faster RAM while DDR3 prices are still cheap?
>>51557915
>>51558010
what is the middleground between a 4170 and the typically recommended i5?
what sort of shit can i run with a gtx 960 and a 4170?
>>51558285
4170 is the best price/perf i3
Any last words before I pull the trigger /g/
850W is for future crossfire
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/msVBkL
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Helel/saved/4M6WGX
What do you guys think about this?
help me out, wandering wizards;
MSI s1150 Z97 PC Mate
or
Asrock Intel 1150 Socket B85 ANNIVERSARY Chipset MB
As I can see, the only difference is number of sata3 ports, z97 is only 5€ more expensive and I'll be pairing it with i5-4460.
I'm aware I won't be overclocking this cpu, so it's only a matter of other features.
thanks!
>>51559474
hah, I'm considering the same motherboard
>>51560323
seems like a decent pick... you had any feedback elsewhere?
>>51560429
hmm
>>51556056
first build ever
>>51556085
>960
Get a 380 or 380x m8. 960 a shit
first build, I think it's alright? appreciate feedback
>>51561105
Get the 380 4GB or the 380X. Both a lot better than the 960.
>>51561132
I thought AMD had bad drivers?
>>51561148
They dont. Check benchmarks. The 380 beats the 960 in every game.
G3258 or A10-7850K? The pentium looks to be better at single thread tasks, but I'm unsure if buying a dual core is a bad move, but the overclocking seems like good fun...
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HQDJcf
Please help, I have no idea wtf I'm doing.
Is this looking ok so far? I need help with picking a CPU cooler and case, and any other changes you guys recommend. The only thing I won't change is the Power Supply since I got a spare one of these around.
Pls halp.
>>51561209
G3258.
Why? you have way more options to upgrade.
>>51561209
A10
Is this build ok?
I can spare another ~£50 to knock a few parts up a tier if it helps.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/nWbwdC
i5 - 4690k
R9 390X
Cheers.
How's this for my vidya gaeming needs?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/y73rK8
Already got a machine that's four years old, but it's starting to show it's age and it can't run the games I'd like to get 60fps with on 1080p.
>>51562778
Change the Seagate for a WD Black.
Why? not for the seagate meme, but WD black have better performance than Seagate HDDs.
Everything looks perfect other than that.
If you want better overclocking temperatures you can replace the 212 EVO with a NH-U12S for better cooling.
>>51562898
Cheers mate, Appreciate it.
I know it's a bother, can someone give some recommendations/pointers on how to spend around 1000 on Black Friday to build a PC?
Hey, this is the thread I was looking for.
So I want to purchase a gift for myself for Christmas and thought I'd do so now since parts would be cheaper around Black Friday/Cyber Monday. I've done a little research, and I would like a second opinion on everything. So, here's my build so far.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/BdWfQ7
What should I change? I'm mostly going to be emulating/gaming on it, but, I might be doing some video editing as well on it. I'm not 100% sure at the moment, but, I don't mind planning ahead. What would you guys change? I'm not afraid to spend another few hundred dollars if quality is guaranteed.
>built first gamin pc
>find out I can't use my old vga monitor
>order an hdmi cable to use with my tv that said "HDTV" on the box
>don't check to be sure it has an hdmi port first because I'm a retard
>day before it arrives unhook everything from tv to dust and move it and find out it doesn't
>currently waiting on a dvi to vga adapter to arrive
>brother lets me hook it up to his tv via hdmi to make sure everything is working
>hdd not detected in bios
>not detected in windows setup either
>read I should feel vibration when it's powered
>feeling nothing but figure it might be too subtle for me to notice or maybe one of the psu plugs is out or somethin
>try every sata port, a different cable and every psu connector
>nada
>dig out a barely-used generic 250gb hdd I got off ebay for my Xbox 360 forever ago and plug it in to the psu
>noticable vibration
Gonna format and use the 360 hdd till I get this replaced, guess I'll have to pay the return shipping. Everything else is working as far as I can tell except some red cathodes I've also got to send back.
It's all gonna be worth it in the end, right?
I will gladly take any advice as I have no idea I'm doing.
Acer Predator 27 144hz Gsync IPS+2x6TB WD reds for 1200 European Funnycurrencies
>>51563693
Throw in some poptarts
>>51563545
Skylake is a ripoff. You could save $50-60 on an LGA1150 motherboard alone (even more if you don't want memory overclocking support), plus a bit more on DDR3 RAM. Then you can get the very similar Haswell Refresh i5-4690K for $210 (within 5% of the 6600K's performance per clock), get an Xeon E3-1231V3 for about the same price (hyperthreading, 2 extra megabytes of L3 cache, but slightly slower, can't be overclocked, and has no integrated graphics), or upgrade to the i7-4790K for $300 (hyperthreading, 2 extra megabytes of L3 cache, and factory clocked 0.5ghz faster).
Or if you really want to go high end, you can go for the Haswell-E i7-5820K, an unlocked 6-core CPU with 15 megabytes of L3 cache that costs $375 and requires DDR4 RAM and more expensive motherboards.
But Skylake is a retarded choice no matter which end of the market you're on.
>>51563693
See above.
>>51563863
Hey, could you take a step back, I'm just really new to this and don't understand what you're saying. I really only have what I've read from other people, and I saw a lot of people on the web go on about how skylake is fantastic, but, I may be mistaken.
Could you explain a bit better about how those options are better? I understand price, but, how much performance am I gaining/losing by using those parts instead? Doesn't the 5820k have less ghz? I hate to be naive, but, I assume if that was higher it would be better. I apologize, this is something I am really new to.
Bamboo vs Jenkins faggots go
>>51564026
Alright, I'll try to explain some stuff.
The most important difference between CPU generations is the performance per clock cycle, which can come from improvements in design and/or the manufacturing process. In other words, if you have a 3GHz chip from one generation, and a similar 3GHz chip from the next generation, how much better performance does the newer one have? In the case of Haswell to Skylake, the answer given by most benchmarks is "about 5% better." That certainly would not be worth upgrading over if you already had a Haswell build, but since (presumably) you're on an older machine right now, it's a bit more complicated as to which is the better choice.
Clock speed is indeed a factor in performance, but you can only directly compare clock speed between identical parts. For instance, 10+ years ago 3GHz Pentium 4s were common chips, yet a 2GHz Core 2 Duo from a few years later would run circles around them.
So, taking the 3.3GHz Haswell-E 5820K, yes it's clocked at a lower speed than, say, a 4GHz i7-4790K. As such, it might be slower at single threaded applications like some games (i.e. those that only use a single core at a time). However, if you're using a multi-threaded application that can take advantage of as many cores as you can throw at it (like a video editor), then the gains from having 2 extra cores will far outweigh the gains from running 2 less cores at a lower clock speed.
Even better, the Haswell-E parts are unlocked, meaning that they can be overclocked as far as your cooling system can take them. If you do so (voiding your warranty), you can have the best of both worlds, 6 cores at 4GHz+ speeds.
(cont)
got mg279q, gsync version costs nearly 300e .more wtf? is it worth it i got nvid gpu
>>51564026
>>51564404
(cont)
Hyperthreading is something that confuses a lot of people. First you need to understand what a core is.
You can think of a core as like an independent processor on your CPU. Each core can work on its own task (or thread) by itself. Some of the hardware on the CPU is shared between all the cores, but much of it is owned by individual cores. On a non-hyperthreaded CPU, that is.
On a hyperthreaded CPU, 2 tasks (or threads) are assigned to each core, but only one can be executing at any given time. Why would you want this? Because RAM is slow. There is a huge delay between when a core requests data from RAM and when it gets that data. Modern CPU design is all about trying to find ways to get work done while when a core must inevitably wait for some data to be retrieved from RAM. And hyperthreading is one of those solutions. When one thread is waiting on RAM, the other thread can make full use of the core. Then when it inevitably needs to wait, it passes control back to the other thread.
The upshot is that in many scenarios, hyperthreading gives you a significant performance advantage when running highly multithreaded programs or a large variety of disparate programs; not anywhere near as much as having twice the number of cores, but still significant. It's definitely a feature you want, but sadly, part of Intel's market segmentation strategy is to disable hyperthreading on i5 CPUs.
(cont)
>>51564404
>>51564520
Wisdom man, pls just build me a PC on partpicker under 1000 plox?
Old build:
GA-MA770-DS3
6GB of DDR2 RAM (nah not kidding here)
Phenom II x4 955 BE
Radeon 6850HD
My budget can give me:
Asus H81 PLUS
8GB of DDR3 RAM
i5 4460
r9 380 (2GB version cause it's 150€ and goddamn that's like 100€ cheaper than the 4GB)
Is it going to be noticeable enough? I know people struggle to get shit at ultra settings, crazy resolutions and decent framerates and all but I just really wanna play the games coming out
>>51564563
Not him but go to logicalincrements.
Any chance 6600k's will be back in stock on Amazon (for Prime) on mon/tues? Newegg is $20 more and my case won't be here until friday anyway.
>>51564404
>>51564520
(cont)
Related to the "RAM is really slow" problem, we have caches. Caches are chunks of extremely fast (but expensive) memory that exist on the CPU itself, transparently storing fast copies of data in RAM. Modern software engineering is all about designing software so that as much of the data you're working on remains in cache at all times, so that you minimize the amount of times that a core is stuck waiting for hundreds of cycles to load data in from RAM.
There are multiple levels of cache in any CPU; usually there is a small amount of L1 cache per core, a bit more L2 cache per core, and a large amount of (slower to access) L3 cache shared by all the cores. Usually, across CPUs of the same generation, the amount of L1 and L2 cache per core is fixed, while the amount of L3 cache varies.
So another important thing to evaluate when comparing CPUs is the amount of L3 cache, and the amount of L3 cache per core. More cache means less wasted time waiting on RAM, and thus better performance.
(cont)
So putting it all together, you have:
Haswell i5-4690K, 3.5ghz overclockable, 4 cores no hyperthreading, 6MB L3 cache or 1.5MB per core
Haswell i7-4790K, 4ghz overclockable, 4 cores with 8 threads /w hyperthreading, 8MB L3 cache or 2MB per core
Haswell-E i7-5820K, 3.3ghz overclockable, 6 cores with 12 thread /w hyperthreading, 15MB L3 cache or 2.5MB per core
Skylake i5-6600K, identical specs to the 4690K but 5% per clock performance gain and a lot more expensive
Skylake i7-6700K, identical specs to the 4790K but 5% per clock performance gain and a lot more expensive
In other words, you should either realize you don't care that much about performance and save a ton of money for a tiny performance loss with the i5-4690K, pay roughly the same while getting better performance with the i7-4790K, or pay more while getting the closest thing to a "future proofed" CPU on the market with the i7-5820K.
>>51564563
Teach a man to fish and he'll be fed for life.
Build a man a PC and fuck you nigga I spent like half an hour writing this shit, build your own PC.
>>51564404
>>51564520
>>51564732
>>51564757
Thanks Anon! This is exactly what I wanted to know. This is really new to me, so this type of information is the kind I wanted to know. Thanks a lot!
>>51564839
No prob, dude.
I don't even use 4chan these days but I popped in here looking for Black Friday deals and decided to help. Seeing someone eager to learn restores a tiny bit of my faith in this place.
>>51564732
Aye bruh imma,
let you finish,
but before you do,
please someone suggest me a good mATX mobo.
Ive already purchased the graphics, ram, ssd, and processor.
Please :DDDDD>>51556085
>>51563863
>>51564404
>>51564520
>>51564732
>>51564757
Really well put together anon, thanks for laying that out
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KYL9kL
Anything I should change up?
Not sure if I want to spend extra money on the i7. Is there any reason to get it? How important would "hyperthreading" be to me?
Though I am thinking of throwing out the 2TB for a 1TB. I don't trust drives larger than 1TB usually.
As for the case I'm not so sure if I want to go with the cool master. Apparently it's really good. But I'm also thinking of these two.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA68V2CX7228
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139021
Also
>inb4 throw out the optical drive
>>51564404
>>51564520
>>51564732
>>51564757
That's a lot of good info for people. Good job there anon.
>>51565144
>How important would "hyperthreading" be to me?
What are you going to use your PC for?
Get a Z97 motherboard.
A 2TB WD Black maybe.
QUICK WHAT IS A GOOD mATX MOBO???????
>i3 4170
>GTX 960
INB4 GET A 380, IT'S TOO LATE FÁM
>>51565191
Gayman
Art programs
Probably about it for now.
I'll look both into that mobo and HDD. Thanks for the suggestions anon.
>>51565260
>Games
From almost nothing to counterproductive.
>Art programs
Really useful.
How much do you plan to spend on the motherboard? because there are usually 3 options for cheap Z97 motherboards.
Buy now or wait for Monday???
>>51565307
Buy now.
Also buy on monday, but mostly buy now.
>>51565322
Specially buy now if the offer its under 30% the usual price.
If the discount isn't that big, wait for monday.
I feel retarded for asking this but
DDR4 RAM I'm ordering says X99 in the description. It should work on a Z170 motherboard, correct?
what the best CPU for gaming?
>>51565367
Any i5.
>>51565367
The answer is always I5.
Low budget? I5-4460.
High budget? I5-4690K.
>That face
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/KjyqjX
Please help.
>290 vs 390
Is the extra 4 gigs of memory worth the extra $100?
>>51565388
>>51565392
why not i7?
assuming you dont care about money
>>51565398
>That build
The fuck were you thinking anon?
Get a 212 EVO, you have no idea what chose about HSF.
You cant overclock at all in that motherboard, you got a unlocked CPU for a reason, get a Z97 Motherboard or change your CPU.
Also its a shit motherboard for a I5, specially talking about a unlocked I5.
RAM somewhat expensive but RAM is RAM.
Get a better case, but that one will do.
Get a 620~650 PSU.
>>51565438
Minimal performance increase over a I5.
Games don't like Hyperthreading.
Other than that they are great.
>>51565293
Is it only useful for programs like Photoshop? Are free ones like one called Krita still make use of it? Will the i7 get in the way of my gaymen?
Around the 150s? 200 at the most. How expensive do they go?
Is this shit any good?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=13-128-716
Ive asked 3 times gotten no response and I'm the one who made this thread lol.
Guys please,
>>51565493
http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-games
Some information about hyperthreading in gaming that I've read up on. Final answer seems to be that it won't really effect your gaming that much in the long run.
Unless you live in an oven, which then you might want to buy some good fans.
>>51565493
Yes, Yes, Not really.
Around $130 (GA-Z97X-UD3H) to $220(ASUS Z97-PRO).
Just get a GA-Z97X-UD5H, perfect for overclocking for $190.
Lower? MSI Z97 GAMING for $150
Cheaper? ASUS Z97-A for $140.
>>51565352
>>51565352
Anyone? Wanna order the rest of my build tonight.
>>51565584
Name of RAM?
It should.
>>51565554
is. fine ok?
>>51565474
>The fuck were you thinking anon?
I don't actually know what I'm doing, just trying to follow what people are saying.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/8k9tzy
Is this better? I'll gladly take any more advice, case-wise or anything really. Thanks.
I looked over peoples' builds and logical increments, first desktop build of all time I have no idea what I'm really doing.
My goal was for ~1.3k and it'll last me awhile
>>51565608
Gskill ripjaws 4 family, probably gonna go with this one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231876
>>51565642
Looks great, but why a locked I7?
I have absolutely no idea what I'm picking, it's just cheap and sounds way better than my GeForce GTX 760 and whatever the hell I have for a cooler.
>>51565659
Oh yeah you're right, I could upgrade to "K" for 20 bucks more. Thanks though
>>51565635
MSI Z97 its not a great overclocking Motherobard, get a GA-Z97X-UD3H/ASUS Z97-A.
Then your build will be perfect.
>>51565677
Forgot this thing:
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JWzHnQ
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2mF4cf First build I've ever bought, spent 694 in total including an Ethernet cable. Does it look good?
Great. Just fucking great. The fucking $25 off $200 coupon expired just as I decided on a mobo.
Fuck you.
Fuck.
>>51565699
And the fucken premier trial also ended
Fuck me fuck me e fuck ene emenenenehcjcnxneucjcmechckme
>>51565558
It gets kind of hot here, but I have A/C so I'm probably good.
>>51565568
$220 isn't that bad, but I'll look into all of them and see what will work. Thanks for the help anon.
Anything about the cases though? I did hear this specific Coolmaster is pretty good. Though the Corsair is smaller and doesn't seem half bad itself. Not as many fans it seems. The "be quiet" seems pretty nifty. I'm hoping it is rather quiet. Though it's still a somewhat big case. Just never heard about it, and only has six reviews. I just happen to come across it.
>>51565568
Oh yeah, thanks for that info for the i7 on the programs. I'll take it into more consideration since I plan to do a lot more work in them.
>>51565438
Overkill
>>51565727
Cases are easy to chose.
Does your motherboard fit?
Does your videocard?
Removable hard drives?
Long?
Does it look good for you?
Get that one.
Corsair XXXR series, and HAF series are great, the HAF 932 will be perfect for you.
Is it true temperature reads run high in bios? Getting 55 C idle on my cpu and it's worrying me a bit. Read that they can run hotter in bios because there's no power saving stuff going.
Can't set it up with an OS and Speccy for what I guess would be a better read till a few days from now.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/JfpKvK
Four years old at this point, anything I should focus on? Wasn't too informed when I made this. Haven't been doing anything particularly stressing enough to warrant an i7, but I guess that's a matter of time.
>>51565690
Thanks.
Just in case though, if I were to attempt to save money, and go for an non overclocked CPU, what CPU and mobo would be a good choice?
>>51565814
55°C idle is just fine, worry when you go over 65°C idle.
Normal temperatures for an AMD CPU.
>>51565790
I'll stick with the 932 then, thanks anon. I better put an order on it before it's sale goes off. Then again, not sure if it will go back on Monday.
You only NEED a 4GB GPU if you're using multiple monitors or playing at huge resolutions, right? Or it is that outdated info?
>>51565851
I5-4460 and a GA-Z97X-UD3H.
All I5 are pretty much the same.
>>51565876
I Would buy now and worry later.
Specially if something is 30% Off the usual price.
>>51565554
its a motherboard. does it have the right cpu socket? does it have the ports you want? thats literally all there is to it
>>51565893
Thanks. I take it I should avoid skylake?
>>51565928
To update a old build you have? No.
For building a computer from scratch? Its a good idea to take it in consideration, maybe new stuff out the 1151 socket will be more powerful, but nobody knows.
Alright crew, what should I upgrade?
>8350 @ 4.6
>asus cross hair v formula-z
>295x2
>16gb ram
I was thinking of jumping to Skylake or x99, but I could also add another 290x, psu isn't an issue. What's best? I don't do any rendering or production with computer, I do stream and typically have a lot of shit open in the background though
>>51565957
>To update a old build you have?
And with that i mean a recent Build, (Haswell I5 and a Z97 Motherboard), there is no point, a huge investment of money for a minimal upgrade right now.
How many watts should my power supply be if im planning on getting a 980 ti and one day will get another one
>>51556085
>i3
>z97 board
Pick one. You can't overclock an i3 and unless you're planning on getting an i5 or i7 in the future you're better off with an H97 board.
>>51565999
Post the rest of your build.
Should be a 650W PSU atleast, and a 750W recommended.
>>51565999
760 is how i sli run titan x
>>51557713
>FX CPU at the end of its lifespan, zen soon
Either get Haswell or skylake now or wait till zen.
>r9 290
Pony up for a 290x and it'll be good.
I got one of these laying around a: OCZ (lel ded company) ModXStream Pro 700W.
Is this an acceptable Power Supply and reason for me to skip a new one or will I live in constant fear that it will explode any second?
What's the best PC Case you can get for around 100 dollars? I want it to be minimal and black, i don't want any of that "gamer" look bullshit
>>51566127
HAF 912, $60.
>>51566127
the Carbide cases from Corsair. High quality and minimalist.
>>51566138
One that doesn't look like shit on the inside plz. I'd also like to be able to see my components
>>51566127
Fractal design define s
>>51566182
Hey, you asked for a good looking case but never specified what part of the case.
Also i consider looking inside your case "Gaming" Like.
Enthoon Pro is what you are looking for, $90.
Is this acceptable?
>>51566224
No, PSU its not enough, get a 620~650W PSU.
If you could raise your budget for a better motherboard would be nice.
Never, but never cheap out in your PSU and motherboard.
>>51566239
Fair enough, could you recommend a more appropriate PSU and mobo?
>>51566220
How's the M version of it? A full tower would just be too much for me
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/zKn8D3
How is this now?
>tfw it's more expensive now
Welp.
>>51565893
I would, but I already spent a lot of money earlier.
Help
>>51566263
EVGA GS 650W for $80.
GA-Z97X-UD3H, even if you don't plan in overclocking, you should also get a I5-4690K for $30 more.
Getting a good CPU and motherboard should be more important than the GPU, since they are easy to replace unlike the CPU and the motherboard.
>>51566296
what u need senpai
i3 4170 or i5 4460 for gaming?
>>51566330
I5-4460, huge difference in performance.
>>51566315
>GA-Z97X-UD3H
Any major difference between that and Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H-BK?
Thank you!
>>51566343
Same motherboard, just different color and more popular and usually slightly cheaper.
>>51566359
Thanks for all your help.
Going to transfer i7 920 + r9 280x build from old Antec 900 to a Define R5. Cable management was absolutely haram and hopefully it gets better. Also, coped a Sandisk Ultra 2 480GB for 150 Syrupdollars.
>>51565886
Help would be appreciated
How'd I do? Spent about 700.
So ah, are Seagate drives safe? Or do they really die in droves randomly?
>>51566421
Great.
How does 1080p look on a 21.5" monitor?
>>51566459
3TB are the ones with problems, 1TB ones have always been fine, just a reason to shitpost.
There is nothing wrong with getting a WD Blue HDD just for the placebo effect but WD Black are superior to Seagate HDDs.
>>51566483
Just perfect.
>>51566496
W-what about 2TB Seagate?
>>51566316
If this GPU is good/cheap enough or should I get a 960 or 970 instead.
Also I just randomly picked a cooler I'm not sure if it's actually good or not.
>>51566512
Fine too.
Like i told you if it worries you that much get a HSGT or a WD HDD.
>>51566517
Yes, 960 is great if you are on a budget too.
Yes, its the perfect HDD for any build, unless you do moderate to intense overclocking, in that case you should get another HSF.
>>51566535
I would, but I'm already over my budget so I gotta skim on something.
At least they do have a warranty...
>>51565886
>>51566414
Well for multiple monitors without gaming you don't need such a high amount of VRAM but if your trying to do three monitor gaming then yea a high amount of VRAM would be almost essential. But any GPU you would need to even power such high resolutions would come with the amount of VRAM you need anyway.
>>51566548
Anon, you never cheap out on a PC build, you will always get the feeling that you are not satissfied with what you bought and keep telling to yourself
>What if i...
Just buy it, worry later, its something you will use 24/7 for sure so dont cheap out.
The only parts you can ever cheap on is GPU, Case and mouse and keyboard.
>>51566535
I think I'll go with that 960 and this cooler, thanks Anon.
Any reason why I should skip 970? Or there is little to none difference?
>>51566690
>>51566535
>HDD
HSF i mean.
Man i didn't sleep today for keeping track of the deals.
>>51566690
Too expensive.
Either go for a 960 or go for a 980Ti.
Same thing why you don't get a 950.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/instancism/saved/Hg4LrH
r8 and h8
Should I get an aftermarket cooler if I get the $200 dollar 290?
H-here I-I go!
I don't need to change anything, right? This is fine? Halp.
>>51566868
Looks great.
>>51566888
Thanks, in trips I trust.
Goodbye money.
Looking to make a gaming PC with a ton of memory, and I want to keep it around the $1000 mark, but no higher than $1300. Already have mouse, monitor, keyboard, and Internet connection (wifi), so I'm good on that.
Games I currently play: Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas, Skyrim, The Elder Scrolls Online, Fallout 4.
Any recommendations based on the games I play?
I need help with my budget build.
I managed to jam a GTX 970 in it, but don't know if its overkill. I would much rather get a 380 or something, i won't be gaming in 1440
>>51567092
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/D7Gxpg
>>51567033
Forgot to mention, my monitor's 1600x900.
>>51567117
Get a 620W PSU, 500W isnt enough for a 970.
>>51567151
Get a better monitor.
Check logicalincrements.
The never ending AMD vs NVIDIA debate. Which should I go for, /g/?
>>51567199
Get whatever is cheaper.
>>51556056
Thanks for linking to my site.
>>51566291
Wondering if there's something I could cheap out on or if I should just stick to all of this.
>>51567199
Is it worth buying a 970 over a 380 if i'm just going to be doing 720p gaming, maaybe 1080p late next year?
>>51567265
Kinda late falcon.
>>51567289
>720p
Everything will be overkill for it.
>>51567328
So should i just grab a 380/960 and upgrade when its time for next year's big boy cards?
>>51567328
I will try and be early for the next thread.
>>51567356
Well, next important threads should be this monday for cybermonday.
But its not really your fault because different timezones.
>>51567356
Any advice with >>51566868
I'm still hesitant to commit...
>>51567381
Yeah, I stayed up really late getting all the deals up on the blog, so I just woke up.
I will try and get it done even faster for Cyber Monday, but this sort of ultra-late-night work takes a heavy toll on the body :(
>>51567395
Everything is good. That mobo is particularly good, and is on a serious discount, so great choice. I would suggest a slightly better case, since there are tonnes of cases on sale right now.
>>51567485
Bro you're doing gods work, i've had your deal page opened up for 3 days straight.
Do you have high hopes for Monday?
>>51567501
>>51567501
I'll gladly take any case recommendations, don't really have a good idea how to judge them.
>>51567501
Sorry to ask this, but any suggestions on getting this any cheaper? >>51566291
Or should I just keep it as it is?
I'm planning a build around a Mini-ITX case I can keep on my desk and travel with, specifically the Cooler Master Elite 130.
I don't do much gaming but it's gotten to the point where the Quadro 1000M in my Thinkpad W520 is not able to even keep up with TF2 or Starcraft 2 on lowest settings at native resolution. I've already got a mouse, keyboard and a massive Viewsonic P815 monitor. I'd want to be able play the aforementioned games on high settings at 1800x1440 (76Hz). Since they're fairly old, I would imagine this is not hard to do. What does /build/ think of this:
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/gwbCHx
I'm planning to buy the OS and optical drive locally. My goal is to keep the base cost below 650 canuckbucks (~$480 USD).
>>51567567
Drop the BD player?
>>51567522
I am legally not allowed to discuss.
>>51567632
I'm hoping that means its going to be a good year, unlike last year
>>51567632
What's going on here? Do you get inside information from people cause your blog is great advertisement?
>>51563674
Yes man. It's a huge pain but the first post is amazing.
Falcon, do you have any plans to update screen list for other countries? having problems trying to find a cheap screen in mexico.
Infact, i don't have enough in my budget and i will have to use a CRT screen from 2007 with the build im buying.
>>51567691
This year's Black Friday sales have been very good for PC enthusiasts. Last year, there were few CPU and GPUs. This year, there is a flood of GPU sales, and some good CPUs too.
It is probably because everyone wants to clear their inventory in preparation for 14/16nm stuff, not because they "love us so much." But it is still a really good time to buy.
>>51567698
Registered as an affiliate with Newegg and Amazon. I do not know if every affiliate gets this, or if they really like me a lot!
>>51567782
Can I bother you for what's a decent case to get once more good sir?
>>51567782
Yeah with this nvidia/amd price drop I'm hoping to build a brand new PC, so I'm counting on you to guide me senpai
>>51567809
>>51567809
Corsair XXXr and HAF series are quite good.
>>51567809
Depends on your budget. Pic related are the best that have found so far on Newegg. Out of these, if I was buying, (this is a personal recommendation), I would look at these
Air 540 - Unique for factor
780T - Excellent all-rounder
NZXT S340 - Very classy
THOR V2 - GAMER GAMING GAMES! Also great cooling
Enthoo - My personal choice
Cases are a personal choice, so choose something that YOU like.
>>51567609
Might at this point, but I was thinking of burning some blu-rays. Might just wait on it instead.
>>51567892
Hey Falcon, quick question. What settings do you have the games set to when you quote framerates for a GPU?
>>51567892
Do you think this is a good holiday budget PC?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b83mwP
Shaving off some dollars for a better CPU is an option
>forgot to get 3 free months of NewEgg Premier
>now won't show up cause 5% covers it up
I could get one year free cause lol student, but I'm not so sure if I should or not. Is it worth it?
>>51568142
I'm mostly confused about the mobo, i'm planning on running multiple monitors at 720p.
Is the GPU overkill?
>>51566723
pls r8
>>51568184
Yes, reduce GPU budget and upgrade your Motherboard.
CPU is fine.
You might want to upgrade the PSU for something better, its not bad, its just not enough power.
>>51568216
Literally rec me any mobo.
I'm not overclocking, so I didn't know if I needed a Z97, and the H ones seemed to not have enough function.
Also, if I had a feminine penis, I would be all over you for what you do.
>>51568293
That you wont overclock doesn't mean you shouldn't get a Z97 motherboard.
GA-Z97X-UD3H is always a good option, doesn't matter if you are overclocking or not.
>>51566023
Could you suggest me one?
>>51568310
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HCfFvK
Alright, fixed.
Is it worth grabbing the 380, same price seemingly better performance, but i'm not at high res.
Also, is my CPU decent for years to come?
>>51568128
I tkae FPS data from TPU or Anand's, and TPU usually has settings on max/ultra.
>>51568142
>http://pcpartpicker.com/p/b83mwP
This is fine as is, if you are primarily gaming.
>>51568184
>i'm planning on running multiple monitors at 720p
Then it is overkill. FYI, I run 2x1440p screens on a single R9 290, which is more or less in the same performance tier as the 970. A 970 is huge overkill for 720, unless you are sure you will upgrade to 1080p soon.
And you should upgrade to 1080p. 1080p is ~$100 now, or even less with sales.
>>51568797
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/HCfFvK
I changed it a bit, is there an r9 card you'd recommend that won't add a lot to my price?
>>51568867
And yeah i will be upgrading to 1080p soon enough
>>51556056
Wanting to do my first build. All I have right now is my gaming laptop. It's going to cost me about 2k, keep in mind this is syrup money. Looking to make a really good gaming desktop. Hows this build?
Have you guys ever just built a computer up on pcpartpicker, got it all in the shopping cart, then looked at the price, and wondering if you really need it all?
Looking to do my first build and upgrade from a refurbished 2011 Optisan 3500 workstation
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/6FTpCJ
Thoughts or advance?
>>51556056
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/seinthebear/saved/jZHmP6
Any changes I should make?
Putting together a new build, haven't stayed up to date with shit. Leaning towards i5-4690K and an r9-390 (something in the $300 range, 390 seems more future proof).
Went through Falcon's blog, don't really know what to jump on. Might as well buy a case when they're cheap:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-LogicalIncrements.com%20Inc-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10440897&PID=5961731&SID=0
I don't know which mobo to get, except that it should probably be a Z97 since I'll be getting the 4690K. What's a good, cheapish mobo to get? Should I wait for monday? Should I get the i5-4690K from newegg while it's still discounted?
>>51568966
Yeah, what you gotta do tho is just buy 1 part and that forces you to buy the rest. Had I not bought the graphics card yesterday u probably wouldn't have bought the rest.
Here's my current computer, and here's the one I'm thinking of building.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jTH7Q7
After seeing the price, I'm not so sure I really need it. This one isn't really slowing down or anything. I guess it's just the thought. Anyone think I should just upgrade, go all out, or give it another year?
>>51565438
>that guy slowing down to stare at 0:13
>>51568926
More expensive than my i5 6600k build with 980 Ti
git gud
>>51569108
>First build
>Syrup money
>>51568926
Horrible. 6600. Z170. A H100i to cool that?! 850W? And the nail in the coffin, a 970. Please try again
>>51569208
...any advice then?
>>51569172
>>51569208
>Please try again
heh
>>51569228
Stop trying so hard and buy what you actually need. You're bottlenecking and spending on cooling that you don't need.
>>51569084
This happened to me too earlier this month, was thinking I'd just buy the gpu since it was a good deal then the rest later but I got hyped and bought everything over the next couple days.
>>51569134
>First build
Then I guess you'd better get to gitting gud.
>Syrup money
Kek.
Good luck buying anything that.
>>51569046
guys, any advice?
>>51569228
The Z170 board is a good start. The Prefix allows for overclocking. You'll be needing a 6600k chip if you really need the HyperThreading. If not, the i5-6500k is just as good for much less. Then the H100i looks more reasonable.
850W is massive. Look into 600W-650W. That's the sweet spot.
And everybody should know to stay away from the 970 by now, it's been out a while. A R9-390 will net you much better performance for less money.
>>51569244
My phone is mucking up, so I did. Sorry mum.
>>51569266
Yeah it forces you to go all in, which isn't a problem unless you're broke and don't actually need a new rig.
I got everything except the monitor and PSU, which I'll wait for Monday hopefully.
EXCITED
>>51569295
>i5-6500k
Thanks for the advice.
>>51569295
Why is everyone shilling the fucking 390 and 380????
Thr 960/970 are still good cards.
>>51569354
Because Maxwell is only good for 980 Ti now. The 3xx series is coming into it's own, and with updates it's going to surpass everything else by Nvidia outside of that card (and Titan, but honesty why buy a fucking Titan?) until Pascal. Fury, Fury X, and Nano are also good alternatives.
>>51569295
This is good advice. I'm know nothing about watercooling, but would 600-650W be enough?
Yes, stay away from the 970. At least in principal, it should not be bought. The fact that Nvidia knew there was a problem, and continues to sell it as a 4GB card when only the 3.5 GB are worthwhile is troublesome. They should have never allowed that last .5 GB to be accessible.
i5-6500k is kinda even with it's Haswell counterpart, but 1151 is the future, and Skylake is the only way to go with it for now. I don't really find them to be enough of an improvement over Haswell, but in two years the socket will definitely see some much better CPUs. Going with the i5-6500 is a good bet if you're not going to need HyperThreading. I got mine for $230. That's not a bad price, and they're supposed to be decent overclockers. I'm coming off of an old AMD quad from 2011, and the Skylake i5 is a fucking beast in comparison.
First time on /g/, don't know if I should post this here or make a new thread or whatever.
Anyway, I'm building a new pc and was wondering what windows to get. 7 or 10. I'm mainly concerned with game compatibility.
Fun fact, I was using vista to this day without problems but it's too outdated now, most things have no support for it and I run into problems with newer games and stuff.
>>51569615
I haven't had any problem with game compatibility with 7.
But I built a new PC last week, and getting it to behave under 7 was a pain in the ass. I did the free upgrade to 10 just be done with the issues. Every single part was completely compatible with 7, aside from my motherboard which had some niggling issues. I could have troubleshooted it and got it working, but I did not feel like it.
Take my anecdote for what it is. If I could give any advice, it's this; do whatever research you can on some of these newest parts. Make sure there's plenty of documentation of them running smoothly under 7 before you go with it. Otherwise it might just be easier to go with a newer OS.
I could use some help regarding motherboard and PSU.
I plan to overclock the CPU, will it be enough power for that, or should I go with 650?
Also, is the motherboard okay, or can you point me to a better one in roughly the same price range?
Would a closed loop watercooler for the CPU be better than a cpu fan? In noise as well as cooling capability
>>51569615
7 and 10 will run every game.
Regardless of the memes, Windows 10 isn't good and you should stick with 7.
This is my first time build one of these, so not to sure if this will be really good. My current specs are really shit and doesn't have anything that I currently need.
Just kept on delaying build my computer till now.
>>51570004
Do you plan on OCing that CPU, and GPU? Or do you plan to run watercooling with an OC? What about SLi?
Because that's one hell of a PSU, even for the 980 Ti. Though some of those 980 Ti's can be a hog. The EVGA Classified is a fat little piggy when it comes to power consumption.
could someone check if I can use this build for gaming (civ, fallout etc.) and arting (photoshop etc.)?
>https://www.caseking.de/pro-gamer-pc-konfigurator-sipc-903.html#p=dkb$y.dkcV@3dkdV@#dke$W#dkfV:7dkg6_0dkh6_1djS6!0dkk6_Vdkl$~YedL7)ydjT6!6dka(!5dki6_.dkj6_?dkm*?3dkn6.xdko6-5dkq6-Xdkp6-_Bcny8,Bcly87
>>51570054
Yes I do plan to overclock them eventually, but no plan to watercool. Never had any experience with it and don't want to get over my head with that.
I don't think i will be doing SLi, if I do, it will be way down the line.
As for the PSU, even when i was looking at it, I wasn't sure if it was too much. Just rather have a good PSU in the end that.
>>51570128
I don't know much about your PSU, but I know that EVGA Supernova G2's are top tier. I picked up a Gold model with 850W for $115.
If the one you picked is just as good, I'd stick with it for the Platinum rating. $124's a good price if it's a good PSU.
>>51568889
>>51568867
Build is fine. You can get a 380/960 for cheaper than that, if you look for a deal. Pic related.
Or am I too late? Is Black Friday over?
>>51570269
They are still on, I'm sitting here at 3:30 am building a theoretical pc in hopes for Monday.
I'm willing to shell out for the r9 390, just a bit worried of all the "crashes" and especially the heat of it.
The only sale one left is the Strix, which is the model I haven't heard good things about
>>51570380
go to the buildapcsales subreddit there are some nice deals on msi 390s
>>51570411
The promotion is over :(
>>51570516
I don't mean just for black friday, there are always deals
>>51570537
If Monday doesn't yield good deals I'll kill myself
Can you comment on the 380?
>>51570583
*390
Fuck AMD product names
>>51570102
someone?
>>51570583
I have a 390x but my friend just built a pc with a 6600k and an msi 390 and it runs great. nice and cool with plenty of performance.
>>51570102
bumping for answer
>>51571275
>K series
>Non OC mobo
Other than that, it is fine.
>no sleeper builds ITT
i am very disappointed
Is this mobo http://www.ebuyer.com/643025-asus-b85-pro-gamer-socket-1150-vga-dvi-hdmi-8-channel-audio-atx-b85-pro-gamer compatible with this? http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/8mM4cf
Any suggestions? I was thinking of getting a 240GB SanDisk SSD too.
>>51573217
i dont think you need 16GB friend
also
is there any place where i can save money? i dont what to buy something expensive when it's not really worth it. i think i did pretty well though.
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hqTpCJ
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hqTpCJ/by_merchant/
CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor ($159.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI H81M-P33 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($28.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.75 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 960 2GB SuperSC ACX 2.0+ Video Card ($149.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master N200 MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($27.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 430W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($8.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (64-bit) ($80.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $570.56
updated
>>51573456
I know but, muh sale.
>>51573484
i personally would get 8GB starting just to take down the starting price, then upgrade when you think you need it. that's just me though.
>>51573500
It's a mini itx, if I want more I'll have to sell the other which is a hassle over £19.
>>51573549
good point. other than that anon, seems good to me. im a poorfag jew so i always try to find ways to save muh shekels :^)
>>51573607
Save shekels buy not paying for windows.
rec me an atx case up to 100€ with side window and "something red", doesnt matter what
>>51573642
ya know, right after i posted it, i was like "do i /really/ need to buy windows" it's off now. but im planning on getting it somehow because my gayman
>>51567569
get the cooler master elite 110 instead, since you didn't choose a disk drive, that will get you better temps and it is more portable. it only takes slightly shorter gpus but you should be fine with most. it also looks MUCH better. scrap the amd and go for intel, you will regret buying that shit. for the games you mentioned, you should get a g3258 which might be dual core but overclockable and will give you much better performance. also, buy dual channel ram instead of 1 big stick, and dont go for 8gb, 4gb is more than enough until 800€ total, so buy 2x2. psu is way more watts than you need
Is using a tv as a monitor a bad idea if I'm only playing vidya and watching films?
why are people recommending haswell low budgets rather than skylake?
