>it's still rpi zero edition
>mfw there's no fixed header for /sbg/
Previous thread: >>51535846
First for gay sex
>>51541887
So the only way to get internet on this thing is through the usb port? I'm still buying one, can't beat $5, but still...
reposting from old thread
>get one of these
>a solar panel
>a battery pack
cheap solar powered FTP server here I come
>>51541923
yeah
but don't forget you need a micro USB OTG port
since this thing only has two mUSB ports, one for power other for devices
>>51541923
what do you plan on doing with it? i have a project i'm using a pi2 for, but i'm trying to think of something i could do with one if these
>normie alert
Should I use rpi as my mobile 4chan browser?
>>51541946
Yeah, I already got all the peripherals, besides the wireless/ethernet adapter. Oh, and mini HDMI. :/
>>51541969
I have no idea, I just want one. I already have a few Linux machines, so this is just something cool to have. Can't pass up $5, right?
>>51541936
How big would your solar panel and battery pack have to be to ensure 24/7 operation?
>>51542276
yeah
>>51542276
wouldn't imagine it'd need to be big, try /diy/ pi threads
Where can you get the Magpi magazine? I live in the South next to a bunch of hicks and I doubt anyone would have picked these up. barnes and noble maybe?
So where can I find a micro-USB to Ethernet adapter?
>>51542580
>micro-USB to Ethernet
You'll need a micro USB to USB, and then an USB network card.
>>51542580
for?
>>51542611
>>51542615
Let me rephrase the question:
How do I connect a Pi Zero to a network for less then the cost of the actual device?
>>51542629
http://www.ebay.com/itm/291454136830?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>51542643
That thing has no antenna, must be a scam.
>>51542643
>>51542680
eh, they work, but I've always had power issues when trying to get them to work with my RPi B
>>51542643
I think I have one of those and the older kernels didn't have drivers for it.
>>51542501
Closed today
does it fit into a dildo?
originally planned on using an esp8266 but there's something hot about running linux in your ass
>>51542907
I mean, it's smaller than a playing card, so, yeah?
>>51541887
Fuck wasting time on this shit
Where the hell is my Pi with sata already?
>>51543020
>>>/OrangePi/
>>>/BananaPi/
>>51543075
Call me when they have a tenth of the dev support that the Pi has
>>51543085
man, you really are a cunt aren't
also your waifu is shit
>>51543095
>your
you're
>>51543095
Go fuck yourself
My waifu is objectively better than yours
>>51543125
your waifu is a slut lmao
>>51543130
>your
>>51543095
>your
>>51543130
Literally wrong. Sorry pal
>>51543147
hahaha sorry, but whatever keeps you alive
just know that your waifu is a literal slut and doesn't really care about you
>>51543169
Must be hard going through life being wrong all the time. How do you manage to do it?
>>51543177
Your denial is pretty strong, I just hope you don't kill you'reself when you come to grips with reality
>>51543198
You might've had a point if you were right all this time
Shame you weren't though
>>51543216
Keep being in denial, because recent scientific studies back up my claim that your waifu is garbage
>>51543226
On the contrary, there have been many studies proving that my waifu a best, done by top specialists to boot
>>51543237
Sorry, but your waifu's slut friends don't count, mine are from CERN though
>>51543121
you are waifu is shit
nice bait faggot
>>51542643
that's really impressive if it works.
The last external wifi thing I got was an ExpressCard. This thing is tiny.
>>51543414
It's nothing.
There are even MicroSD cards with wifi
I've got a Raspberry Pi A+
What's the cheapest way to get internet, mouse and keyboard?
Isn't any random PC with no expansion cards a "single board" computer?
Would the pi zero support a usb hub
>>51542086
No, use a cellphone instead
>>51543824
why wouldn't it lmao
Do you think most people will be using tiny "single board" PC's in our lifetime as their primary computer?
Imagine 50 years from now we just have Pi Zero-looking motherboards and storage devices connected to it the size of micro-sd's and you use this machine to play 2055's latest and greatest AAA video games.
>>51544362
No.
But maybe we get a revival of home computer style pcs where the computer is in the keyboard or the monitor.
How does the $5 pi compare to the orange pi pc?
These devices are for integrated devices like the pi mame cabinet or digital signage. If you want to network get an A or A+.
>>51542907
Fucking dying man.
Yeah it will fit, but what about power, video and audio out and peripherals?
Can I use this to watch sunb-HD video files?
>>51544702
>power
thinking of 2 small round lifepo4 cells, should fit if i stack them
>video audio out
the only output will be the vibrator hooked onto the gpios
>peripherals
yeah it needs wlan or bluetooth for remote control, could be a difficult fit if i also need an usb-microusb adapter
I still use my Rpi2 everyday to watch rips and stream youtube.
They should work out a deal to get Amazon, Googly Play and iTunes rentals to work on it. Then it'd be a legitimate Android/Apple TV killer.
>>51544920
>They should work out a deal ... Googly Play and iTunes
>Android/Apple TV killer.
So they should work with Applel and Google to kill off Applel's and Google's products?
>>51544958
look man I'm high I didn't think this through don't harsh my buzz
I'm thinking of making a smartphone controlled robot, should I use an Arduino Uno or a Raspberry Pi?
>>51545090
Neither.
Use an ESP8266.
Do usb hubs work on raspberry pi?
>>51541923
All micro boards are network through USB controller
This thing is deceptively cheap, it's better to just buy a orangepi because you're going to be spending roughly the same cash to get all the peripherals on the pi zero.
I wouldn't even know what to do with a pi zero, maybe use it as the brains for my rc plane?
Just went to an electronics store for an unrelated offer
>Pre-order the RPi Zero now!
>Only 15 euros!
Fuck those guys.
>>51545954
forgot pic of orangepi
42bucks with shipping and shit
http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/NEW-orange-pi-plus-Allwinner-A31s-Dual-Core-1GB-RAM-Open-source-development-board/1553371_32248189300.html
Can someone tell me everything I need to buy for basic use? I think I'll run a FTP server, maybe a portable PC. (Raspberry Pi Zero)
>>51545976
Get this if you want to do low-level i/o
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-free-shipping-BeagleBone-AM3359-development-network-architecture-A8-China-BB-Black-card-LINUX/1555099739.html
>>51545954
Can you put an ehternet port on the RPI zero?
Because am thinking of buying a ton to make a distributed system.
>>51545580
The oDroid C1 and Minnowboard are not.
>>51545580
The original Pi's have an ethernet slot built right into them, that's what I was referring to.
>>51542276
Say it draws 0.2A at 5V, that's 1W of power needed.
Say you're a random point near the middle of America (idk), you've got a solar flux of about 125 W/M^2 (Look up solar flux maps for your area). If the solar panel is 15% efficient, you'll need about 6.7W of energy on the panel to get 1W out.
You'll want it to work day or night, so double the power requirements (store it in a cap, or a Li Ion battery?), 13.4W needed on the panel. Therefore, X^2 * 125 = 13.4, A solar panel about 30cm by 30cm.
Seems maybe a little high, but I haven't time to check it atm
>>51545976
Why not spend $8 more and get the plus 2 with double the memory?
>>51546168
>>51546256
Jesus fuck. Just buy an A+. It comes with Ethernet.
>>51546532
A+ is not $5
Hey guys
I know nothing about single board computers, but with Black Friday coming along, i though about buying one. What do you guys recomend? i'd prefer something that is easy to use, since im a pleb in this area.
>>51546459
Expensive though. Get what y you pay for
>>51546532
No it doesn't
>>51546532
This >>51546576
>1GHz ARM
>512MB SDRAM
> 5bux
I could buy like 200 of those and use the cluster for model calculation.
>>51546631
Many of them are really good, depends on how much money you have. I suggest getting the Raspberry Pi 2 B, because it's the most powerful from the raspberry family. If you're really low on money, the A+ is decent and the newest Raspberry zero is insanely fucking cheap at 5$. Don't go for the clones models like the banana pi, orange pi or spin offs like odroid, cudie or beagle bone because those require more knowledge and manual work. The raspberry pi is a great choice for a starter because of it's huge and friendly community.
Anyone have experience with nerves?
>>51541936
wouldn't you fuck up the battery by constantly charging it with a solar panel
>>51546764
>beaglebone
>pi clone/spin off
fuck you
>>51546803
just use a small lead battery, they can take that pretty well
whats better for a NAS/homeserver:
a SoC with gigabit ethernet + sata
or a microATX custom built x86 machine?
basically, is it worth it spending more to get the full freedom of x86 + a ton of SATA pots.
>>51546804
Whoops, I guess I never took time to look at the history of SBC.
>>51546168
Please, I'm new to this whole thing
this is infuriating.
where are the single board devices which can run bsd and have wifi, off a sd card slot? beagles and soekrises and kin are too overfeatured (and expensive!) for my application and the rpi is a blob nightmare.
this SoC-du-jour disposable unupgradeable blobby crap hardware is ruinous.
>>51546913
you speak gay
>>51546642
The odroid is $35. That's not expensive.
>>51545954
i agree with your assessment. I think they would have had a real winner if they ditched the fucking micro USB port for power and use a two pin header instead. I would have also liked to have seen solder pads for 4 USB ports, and a gig of ram.
I bet they'll make a 'RPI Zero+' to compensate for the deficiencies. As for a use, I'd like to see someone use this as a base for a quadcopter controller.
>>51546665
Ok buy the zero and Nigger rig the fuck out of it to get a shitty cluster.
Or buy 3 C1s and get a cluster with decent capabilities for $100. Or buy 3 orange pi plus 2s and get a really capable cluster for $150.
>>51546711
They're not $5 if you plan on networking them. Then you end up with shitty plug in networking which is almost as bad as not having networking.
>>51546847
In arm you can get an odroid C1 for $35 and use a USB drive. Its got a real network port so speeds are decent.
For $50 you can get an orange pi plus 2 with a real SATA port and decent network and 2GB DDR3 memory and quad core 1.6ghz cpu.
For $120 you can get a minnowboard that has a couple of x64 cores (not arm) and real network and real Sata.
A regular computer would be better but you'd have to get an expensive avoton board to come near the power usage.
Hey, is it a good idea to use a single board computer to host a simple web site?
>>51547215
thanks anon!
>>51547265
No because a cheapo VPS would do the same thing but better and wouldn't rely on your home internet connection being up. Not to mention it would be against the ToS of every residential ISP so they might give you the boot if they catch you.
>>51547084
Ok then, how would you go about networking.
>>51542680
I keep a radio like that (not that specific one, but that size) plugged into my laptop and never had any connectivity issues
>>51547084
Yeah because $7 is so different from $5
>>51547471
ESP8266
Just buy a wifi dongle for $3 if you want networking, why do you need ethernet?
>>51542907
>>51544797
>just making a remote control vibrating dildo
>not combining it with something to sense the user's heart rate and setting it up to cut the power if they are getting to aroused and having a girl wear it under a chastity belt for a day
Just imagine how she'd be at the end of the day.
>>51541969
RetroPi
>>51547961
I thought more about running a web server on it and letting strangers choose the vibration.
>>51541887
how can it effectively collect dust if it's so small?
>>51548083
That works too, I thought you were just going to use a regular remote.
>>51541887
>tfw the HDMI port has Ethernet but you still can't use it like a normal Ethernet port
>>51548215
>HDMI port has Ethernet
what?
explain
>>51548271
HDMI is essentially DVI with Ethernet in a single cable
>>51547598
>ESP8266
Thats actually kinda nice.
Could this handle 10-bit video?
The only reason I'd really need a SoC is for making a budget animu NAS/HTPC, and if I were to buy one it'd need to handle 1080p video without trouble.
>>51548336
No, it's not. HDMI is DVI-D that can carry audio.
>>51549176
>DVI can't carry audio
>DVI-D isn't DVI
>HDMI doesn't carry Ethernet
>>51549146
No, it's way too weak to decode 1080p shit in software and the video core doesn't support 10bit video.
10bit anime encodes are usually shit anyway
>>51549146
no pi can handle 10bit, you'd have to download deadfish/bakedfish which comes out like, 10 minutes after the original fansub/horriblesub goes up.
>>51549239
nearly every anime encode is 10-bit nowadays
>>51549469
yes and most of all anime encodes are shit
>>51549482
way better than they used to be
only downside to 10-bit is that your toaster is too shitty to use it
>>51549496
my toaster runs it fine
my gripe is that a lot of retards target the same file sizes, negating the whole point of encoding in 10bit in the first place, which is more efficient compression
>>51547471
Don't network it. It's not setup for.that. Use them for mame cabinets or like an arduino.
>>51547598
>ESP8266
Nigger rigged to fuck. Gotcha. You're basically checking the box for network. Low cost SBC networking generally isn't performant but you're suggesting to make it barely functional.
>>51549558
just look at it as better quality for the same file size
>>51541887
is this scam?
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/witi-board-open-extensible-router-nas-platform#/story
>2x sata
>3.0 usb
>router linux
>/b//n/g
>check out seems weird
>>51549615
it doesn't work like that
10bit doesn't do shit for 1gb 20 minutes episodes,
quality gain only really comes out at smaller files
>>51549667
pretty sure there will be a noticeable quality difference if you encode something as a 300 MB 8-bit compared to a 300 MB 10-bit
>>51549706
yes, that doesn't disagree with anything I said
>>51542086
>4G AKA LTE
>>51549639
That seems like a lot of hardware for the money.
Is there any way to make an AP out of a PI? my router is a POS and it draws a lot of power, it'd be cool if i could just use one of these fucks instead.
>>51549913
whats with this /threads?
where is OP
>>51549946
Over here
What do you want?
>>51549201
so dvi can emulate hdmi
that still doesnt mean that plain dvi can carry audio
also how does hdmi ethernet turn into hdmi audio?
>>51543085
welcome to linux fag
is just a driver and kernel
>>51549913
It's possible to do whatever you want. Whether you can is the problem.
>>51549146
no
I don't think most decoders can handle 1080p 10 bit
and even decently high end socs can't candle it without some sort of hardware acceleration
>>51549639
>$70 for all that
well
the nearest Intel NUC is $100 http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KR0QHXW/
the nearest SBC is $75 http://ameridroid.com/products/odroid-xu4
Incidentally, the board being crowdfunded runs the MIPS32 architecture, rather than the more common ARM architecture, and has 256MB of RAM instead of the more common 512MB-1GB of RAM.
So basically they've cheaped it out enough that you pretty much can only use it as a dedicated router and nothing else.
Sounds about right to me.
>>51542086
>rpi
>mobile
just use your cell phone or a tablet
having to carry a screen around with you defeats the whole point
>>51549746
>10bit doesn't do shit
>quality gain only really comes out at smaller files
it completely invalidates everything you've said
>>51550019
router + 4Tb NAS, and low traffic mail server or web sounds good.
Is a big router btw, not a vlan switch
Is this or 2 banana pro, I'll read more and buy next year
>>51546913
I'm hoping for PC Engines to eventually get into this single computer board market. They had been using AMD embedded chips for their Alix and recent apu boards. An x86 single board computer running AMD's embedded SoCs with a decent GPU would be more suitable for a low powered desktop.
>>51546478
The zero is around 2-4W
What's the sbc with the best Gpu besides Nvidia's? I want to build and run OpenCV on it. Raspi has shit Gpu performance. Nvidia is bloody expensive.
>>51549913
>AP
Yep. Google is your friend now, anon. Good luck.
>>51549975
>that still doesnt mean that plain dvi can carry audio
But plain DVI can carry audio.
>also how does hdmi ethernet turn into hdmi audio?
What does HDMI ethernet have to do with HDMI audio?
>>51549585
>barely functional
For what I'd use this board for an ESP8266 would work fine
>>51542643
I got these two a while back, they work fine
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Ralink-Mini-PC-wifi-adapter-150M-USB-WiFi-antenna-Wireless-Computer-Network-Card-802-11n-g/32297948213.html
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Pcs-Ralink-5dB-150Mbps-Mini-USB-WIFI-Adapter-Router-Wireless-Network-Card-LAN-With-Antenna-For/32414581393.html
>No network interface.
>No proper power interface. (Really? I have to power it through a dinky microUSB? Faggotry)
>No USB-A interface, only micro-OTG.
>BUT IT HAS AN HDMI PORT!
What the fuck were the priorities on this abhorrent piece of shit?
>>51552452
Make it as small and as easy to use as possible?
>>51552452
Did you happen to notice how it's less than half the size of the other models?
>>51552539
>easy
>No network interface
>Power interface is microUSB
>No non-OTG USB interface.
>Yet, it decides that an HDMI port is vital.
This thing has nothing of actual value to a proper embedded system.
>>51552556
>This thing has nothing of actual value to a proper embedded system.
Don't buy it then? Ignore it?
>>51551314
>But plain DVI can carry audio.
It largely depends on the device and that's going from DVI to HDMI. It's not something standard.
>>51552617
I seem to remember an old ATI graphics card I had could do audio over DVI, but you had to have a special adapter that was a pain in the arse to get.
>>51552556
>This thing has nothing of actual value to a proper embedded system.
You left out the 40 GPIO pins, baka.
>>51550019
>Incidentally, the board being crowdfunded runs the MIPS32 architecture, rather than the more common ARM architecture, and has 256MB of RAM instead of the more common 512MB-1GB of RAM.
The CI40?
I was pretty hyped when I heard there was going to be a CI20 successor with SMT but the 550MHz clock with 256MB RAM is a little offputting. I might still pick one up though
Hey /sbg/, what's the cheapest board with USB, ethernet, and enough guts to run a print server over SMB?
>>51552814
Don't know how much is needed to run a print server, but the Orange Pi starts at about $15 and has a quad core 1.2 Ghz processor and 1 GB of RAM.
Is there one with a good sound output?
I want to make a nice music box, and hell, the size and price of the zero makes me want to turn one into a MP3 player, I'd just need to slap a battery on it, but Pis have terrible PWM sound outputs, and I don't quite feel like having to spend extra money on USB/GPIB sound cards.
What are my options if I want better sound than a fucking Game Boy?
>>51550963
>>51550963
Wikipedia states ~160mA, but it's not cited, I'd suspect it'd be around RPi1 specs, so that's about 200mA (1W), if it was 4W, it'd need to draw 800mA, which is nearly double the Pi B's current draw of 500mA.
I'd be very surprised if it drew more than 400mA
![xBPI-M3interface.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Rl8WboL86I[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/f1uhsB7.jpg "xBPI-M3interface.jpg.pagespeed.ic.Rl8WboL86I[1].jpg")
Does anyone own the Banana Pi-M3? It sounds preddy gud for a NAS. How's the OS support?
Is there a raspberrypi-like system based on x86 instead?
>>51553347
Something like this maybe?
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/802007522/up-intel-x5-z8300-board-in-a-raspberry-pi2-form-fa
>>51553347
Look at Intel's SBCs like the Galileo
>>51543725
If it has RAM on the motherboard, yes.
But how often do you see that in a normal computer? RAM is always a second board on normal PCs
>>51546803
you could probably add a toggle between the solar panel and battery then just keep an eye on battery levels and when it gets low charge it
>>51546874
Ftp server is easy.
Mains-mUSB (old phone charger)
USB otg adapter
USB hub
USB storage
USB ethernet/wifi dingle
And a mSD card for the OS
>>51543125
>>51543147
>>51543169
>>51543177
Shut the fuck up. God, bunch of pussy ass niggas fighting over waifus. Get out of the cave for once and try having sex with real human being.
>>51545009
Its cool bruh. Enjoy the buzz. Plus, rpi is already a great alternative to android and apple products. Cheaper if not better.
>>51553907
Wikipedia even calls blade servers single-board computers and I've nevver seen one that had the ram solderd on the board.
>>51554105
There are also hubs that directly connect to microusb
I wish the Pi Zero had an ethernet port instead of that mini HDMI.
>>51554440
Or just wifi. You could build it into an exsisting monitor, add one of these wireless keyboard/trackpad combos and have a standalone terminal.
>>51554470
It's so low-power that I don't think it'd work well as a desktop, it'd be much better as a headless server you only ssh into.
Have anyone installed Kali on rPi zero yet?
>>51554574
It could make a neat emergency backup desktop:
>Computer blows because you fucked up the water cooling install
>Able to continue watching Chinese cartoons and shitposting while you wait for new parts to arrive
>>51554574
I think it would be okay-ish for office stuff.
>>51554612
That's what your smartphone is for
>>51554951
that has a shit os though
>>51554951
>plugging your harddrive, keyboard and HDMI screen on your phone
What kind of phone do you have?
>>51554965
>>51554981
>Able to continue watching Chinese cartoons and shitposting while you wait for new parts to arrive
You don't need your riced-out gentoo install nor a harddrive, keyboard and HDMI screen for that.
>>51555011
But I do.
how about this:
>>51555185
did anyone try yet?
>>51555227
Depends if a driver is available for Raspbian
>>51554612
Provided you have a mini HDMI adapter, a mini USB to USB hub, an USB to ethernet adapter or a USB wifi dongle, a big enough micro SD or an external HDD…
The Pi Zero is useless unless you also want to buy a bunch of adapters, which completely destroys its purpose as a 5$ desktop computer.
>>51555011
I certainly need my harddrive to read the chinese cartoons that are on it. Accessorily, I'll need to watch it on a TV screen because I don't quite like being arched over a 5 inch screen.
>>51550917
>>51553347
The Intel Galileo is x86 and the Intel minnowboard is x64.
>>51546826
>>51554057
>>51546803
You are out of reality. If you charge your lion only to 80-90% it could be on power 24/7. Google it tards
>>51555782
the galileo is literally an arduino though, feels like running an OS on it is just a waste
>>51551334
>For what I'd use this board for an ESP8266 would work fine
You dumb fuck, we were talking about clustering and use as a SAN. Your shit use and shit component doesn't fill that role for $3. If you want to build a cluster stick with a model that comes with network. If you want to detract attention from your microphallus go ahead and nigger rig some $8 components to build a terrible product that will be shit to use for anything.
What's the most economic set to make a stand-alone video surveillance system with a rPi Zero? I thought something like this:
rPi Zero / 5$
USB+RJ Hub / ~10$
SG 2TB HDD / ~70$
USB Box for HDD / ~20$
USB Cameras / ~15$ each
USB 10m Cables / ~10$
RJ 10m Cable / ~10$
C14 Power Cable Adapter Hub / ~10$
Small UPS / ~40$
Total: ~215$ (2x USB Cameras + 2x 10m USB Cable and 1x 10m RJ Cable) /
Make it ~250$ with shipping and taxes. Opinions? are there better choices?
>>51555896
Yes you kekold.
RPi 2B
Ethernet cable
Tiny servo if you want camera to spin
chink USB webcam
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mek raspboory bai streem vidya thru ethranit cabol tu campoter zat wil sev faile on horddrove
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enjay
>>51555927
but I don't wanna keep my PC on 24/7 just so the rPi can record to HDD, that's why I wanted to make a stand-alone system, HDD included.
Though I already got a good UPS now that I think about it and the C14 adapter Hub I use for TV/printer etc has still many free slots, I might just keep using this. That would make the cost around ~200$ all included instead of 250$ I guess.
>>51551314
>>51548215
>>51548271
>>51548336
all 3 of these comments said hdmi Ethernet
>>51555979
>not having a home server
>being this plebe
MY KEKOLD, JUST GET A CHINK WEBCAM, A 10 METER USB EXTENDER AND AN EXTERNAL WESTERN DIGITAL HDD, WHY DO YOU HAVE TO OVER-ENGINEER THINGS?!?!?! IT'S JUST A CAMERA GODDAMIT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>51555927
>>51545954
>brains for my rc plane
shit no. use arduino at worst for that. better some plain atmel or pic. what the fuck is happening to all the developers? why would you use a full blown linux to do some easy control stuff? unless it's some highly complex drone any microcontroller will do.
Always wanted to start out with the RPi and stumbled over an offer for a starter kit that would cost me 45 euros due to Black Friday:
https://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90629661/raspberry-pi-2-starter-kit-b.asp
Are those extra components good for the price or rubbish?
>>51556036
>home server
for_what_purpose.jpg do you understand what "stand-alone" means?
>>51556038
Please express yourself... can I reduce the costs? I don't want an external USB HDD for a simple reason: it's more expensive than USB Box + Internal HDD.
>>51556170 (cont)
>Please express yourself... can I reduce the costs? I don't want an external USB HDD for a simple reason: it's more expensive than USB Box + Internal HDD.
Never mind, I thought >>51556038 was quoting my post.
>$5 computer
Tell me why I should get this. I'm not really planning to tinker with it and build some kind of embedded system, but the thought of a tiny $5, fully functioning computer intrigues me.
Could this be good for an HTPC?
>>51556266
should be okay
it won't be able to play more exotic shit like hi10bit though, since you're limited to what the hardware can decode
one nice thing about the Pis (and many other sbcs) is that they come with CEC, so you can control it through your tv remote (as long as your tv isn't garbage)
>>51555927
wait.. why the fuck would I need a RPi 2B in the first place? couldn't I just connect the "camira" directly to the "campoter" with a longer usb cable? you're kinda retarded.
>>51541887
Why is a teensy still more dollars than this
>tfw no sbc with good stereo output
>>51556520
to get money from retards that can't even manage to use a bare avr
>>51556544
>not pulling the digital audio from HDMI and use a DAC of your choice
>>51555896
http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/3g-gsm-ip-camera.html
>http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Two-way-audio-indoor-wifi-3g_60247687762.html?spm=a2700.7724857.29.135.d3pc5x
>http://www.amazon.com/Pi-Banana-Mainboard-Cortex-A7-Dual-core-ARMv7-A/dp/B00RD86QPA
>>SG 2TB HDD / ~70$
>http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/new-100-original-xiaomi-power-bank_60298915571.html?spm=a2700.7724838.30.60.xih43b
check hdd power source and UPS better option
>>51556601
>sbc are super cool, they do everything!
>once you've paid $50 in extra accessories and have a ton of shit dangling from it
Okay.
>>51556591
It's still like 3 doll hairs per chip though
>>51542907
>You were born just in time to fit a computer inside of a hollowed-out butt plug
>When someone asks you if you pulled your R simulation results out of your ass you will finally be able to answer yes
>>51556266
Spec wise, it has similar grunt to the original Pi, and my original Model B works great with OSMC/Kodi
I'm picking a few up for this purpose, and making my old Pi into a central file server for all my TVs
>>51556695
or
>once you paid $50 extra for a sbc that has decent stereo sound
just stfu man
Are there any SBCs that can output 4K?
Not necessarily talking about video, because I also had photos in mind.
>>51556967
maybe with a sophisticated gpio hack, but I don't think the hdmi port is hdmi2
>>51541887
Does this have enough power to run pirate box? or a torrent box?
And does previous projects on the previous modules work with this one?
>>51557239
As far as I know anything that works on other RPis should work on the zero, only problem is getting adapters so you can connect it to usb or the internet.
>>51541887
Can you run a hard-real time OS in RPi?
Any suggestions/resources?
I want to build a flight control computer.
>>51557549
you would be better off with an arduino.
I don't know about gpio timings, but I can't imagine they would be better than an arduino's
Any idea where I can actually buy the Pi Zero for $5 in America? I can't find it. I found some $30 kit bundles, but I just want the $5 mainboard.
>>51557549
>>51557628
Oh this sounds similar to the problem with trying to get an RPi to run some Neopixels.
>Wouldn't it be fun to add bright, beautiful NeoPixels to your Raspberry Pi project? However NeoPixels, and the WS2811/2812 LEDs that make them up, require a data signal with very specific timing to work correctly. Because the Raspberry Pi runs a multi-tasking Linux operating system it doesn't have real-time control over its GPIO pins and can't easily drive NeoPixels. Typically a small microcontroller like a Trinket or Teensy can be used to communicate with the Raspberry Pi and generate the NeoPixel data signal.
More info here https://learn.adafruit.com/neopixels-on-raspberry-pi/overview
>>51557628
or get a beaglebone, which has prus for real-time stuff
>>51557628
>>51557695
That's probably right.
I could fit the main control loop in an arduino (they sell nanos for 3$ on ebay ) and I could use a RPi zero for encrypting comms, telemetry, sending sensor data etc.
>>51541969
I run my Discord server bot from it
>records all messages
>records times users come-go offline
>does some simple stats stuff
>planning on adding music playing in future
>>51557978
>Discord
Fuckin lol
>>51557978
>Discord
topkuck
ur
a
this
kek
desu
senpai
>>51558003
>>51558082
haha this meme is nice and fresh. I'll be sure to be more concerned in the future that Discord is selling my game tactics to Microsoft or Google
>>51557434
>problem is getting adapters so you can connect it to usb or the internet.
I don't think it was designed with connectivity in mind though.
But shouldn't an micro USB OTG cable, and powered USB hub should do the trick?
My concern is about the pins, The RPi0 makes a great pirate radio device but the missing pin that act as an antenna shouldn't this make a problem?
And what is the power usage? 5V volts?
Since I have an old flashlight key chain that have a solar panel.
>>51556591
Teensy uses an STM mcu, not avr. It's much more of a pain in the ass to get an ARM dev environment up and running from the bare chip than avr. Teensy is well worth it.
>>51558719
only the v3
I think v2 are still the more popular ones
But yeah for M4's you'll probably want a board, don't think they even come in DIP
>>51558719
>>51558719
>Teensy uses an STM mcu, not avr.
>STM
Just to be that asshole.
STM refers to "ST Microcontroller" where ST is a vendor for said microcontrollers.
ST is not the vendor behind the chip in the Teensy, that would be Freescale.
The term you're thinking of is likely that it's an ARM Cortex-M3 architecture chip.
>>51556917
Which is what I'm searching for you fucking retard. I'm waiting for a suggestion now.
>>51558885
wandboard
has digital stereo out through toslink - can't get better than that
>>51558973
That's a bit overkill but very nice too, thanks anon.
>>51556092
>use arduino at worst for that.
The standard Arduino's have VERY little memory that you can't even properly implement a kallman filter without butchering everything
>>51546803
lipo/li-ion batteries don't care about being charged 24/7
in fact it's better for them instead of doing a charge-discharge cycle.
>>51552556
>>No network interface
True, should have put on one honestly.
>>Power interface is microUSB
Fuck you faggot, it's the best power interface for small devices because it's goddamn popular.
>>No non-OTG USB interface.
I'm fairly certain that's it's a normal USB interface with a microusb plug.
>>51558876
So the same as the Arduino Leonardo or one of many dev boards with the cortext m3
>"raspberry pi zero: the $5 computer"
>it's like $25 on the retailer they link to
>adapters and shit for the mini ports will put it over the cost of one of the raspberries
fuck
>>51560201
That's what happens, dude.
I've had humanitarian thoughts before and realized that this very situation would happen. I genuinely feel like they aren't selling the Raspberry Pi for profit. They're basically making them to cost with very little mark-up at all and the fucking vultures are coming out and buying them all up. This is how the market works.
I've thought about building houses for people and making them basically free if I ever became a multi-billionaire, because I believe that housing shouldn't ever be something that people worry about, but I KNOW that if I ever did that then rich people would snatch up dozens upon dozens of them and then resell them for the actual market value. It would be hard to stop that from happening.
We're never going to be able to buy the Pi Zero for $5 until there is no demand for them.
>>51560359
are you 13 or just mentally retarded?
>>51560388
prove me wrong, friend. I bet even in jolly ol' England you'll be hard up to find that issue of MagPi magazine that includes a free Pi Zero. I bet you that scalpers went out and bought up all of the magazines and have begun reselling them.
>>51560417
It wasn't some one-time deal, retard.
They're producing more as we speak.
>>51560481
and, for $5,they are going to keep instantly selling out of supply. Sure, you might be able to snag one if you keep up with when they have inventory like a hawk, but if you're just occasionally going to their site here and there for one you're going to be met with "Sold Out" every time.
>>51560515
No, just no.
Stop being so stupid.
>>51560359
>I genuinely feel like they aren't selling the Raspberry Pi for profit.
They never was for profit. It was an education project to make affordable machines to be used in schools etc. They basically make them to break even.
>>51541887
openelec scroll mouse
anybody managed to fix that?
>>51555282
Is the PI zero marketed as $5 desktop computer?
>>51560515
CHIP is coming this monday, so the scalpers have another target
I got a email about it yesterday, funny thing is i went on here to see if any one was talking about it, this i saw this and im like damn!!! lol its way smaller. :'0
I wanna get a pi or arduino or something but I have no projects to do. Anyone have any cool project ideas?
>>51544362
>you use this machine to play 2055's latest and greatest AAA video games.
Or maybe they will just cram more of these into the size of standard PC.
If PCs for AAAs haven't changed size at all in the last 20 years, don't know why you think they will continue to shrink
>>51561121
I think we're beginning to plateau with graphics fidelity in video games. The next step in video games is to really flex the power of the cpu, making everything in a game have real-time physics.
On today's hardware, if you had a game where your hero had to fight 50+ enemies at once who all wore capes and loose cloth clothing that all sways dynamically because of wind on the battle field and from explosions from your fire spells or whatever, it would chug hard. There's no way your system could handle all that happening at once.
I do suspect we will be playing "AAA" top of the line advanced video games on small Pi Zero-type computers in 40-50 years. I honestly believe graphics cards we have today like the 980 ti being "good enough" for that, so with time of course it'll be trivialized, we're going to say the 980ti is "junk" in as early as 10 years, then we just need processors to evolutionary steps forward to account for the physics calculating needs.
>>51561895
More the next step would be to cram the power into a headset like the oculus rift. Then next would be to make it power efficient and self contained so it lasts long enough on battery power.
>>51558003
>>51558082
samefag
>>51556266
it's a tad faster than the very first Pi, and a decent bit smaller
biggest issue is the awful ports (if they targeted say, $7 instead of a nice round number like $5, they could have put a single ordinary USB port on, maybe even full size HDMI out on that budget, making the device immediately useful out of box without some adapters you need to buy yourself)
like every one of the Pi models, it'd be fine for that purpose, drop OSMC on it or whatever and be on your way, assuming your preferred video formats weren't too out of the ordinary
>>51556695
yeah, I hate this about single board machines
you end up with
>machine: $5-50 depending on what you want
>USB wifi adapter: ~$10 for a shit one, you can go cheaper but enjoy awful connection quality
>keyboard, mouse: $5-10 a piece for a plain, ordinary one
>USB hub: ~$7, could go cheaper
>OTG cables if using Pi Zero: like, $1-4 depending on where you look
>power cable: $5-8, could probably find one cheaper maybe
>HDMI cable: at least $3
>case maybe: however much you feel like spending
>32GB microSD: less than $10
it adds up pretty quickly
bought a Pi 2, came out to around $70 after getting everything+shipping (video cable, wifi, case, keyboard, mouse, usb hub)
probably could have skipped the hub, but it turns out that I kind of do need to plug like 6 things into it sometimes (controllers, USB sticks, etc)
>>51556092
we're at the point where it's cheap enough to overengineer these things
>>51541887
Can I use this bad boy as an HTPC?
I just want to be able to push files to it via the local network and play. How could I hook it up to a router?
>>51563858
You need an USB OTG cable + either an ethernet to usb adapter or wifi usb adapter.
