Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
It has bleeding edge packages, it is user friendly and in the same time stable enough for average desktop. Even Linus Torvalds use this distro.
>>51533215
>bleeding edge
Arch here, ur a faget
fedora isnt bad, but I still prefer arch.
>>51533225
Fedora is pretty close to upstream desu senpai
>>51533215
give me that anime girl
The name, please change the name
>>51533413
Why are you such a perv anon-kun?
>>51533215
>Why aren't you using Fedora /g/?
But I am! And I'm absolutely loving it.
The binary Nvidia driver doesn't work with xorg 1.8 in Fedora 23, and I don't want to downgrade.
AMD drivers don't work without manually patching.
>>51533215
I just use whatever distro fits my needs. I like Debian stable, because it's easy to use, doesn't break often, and it's mostly free software.
>The binary Nvidia driver doesn't work with xorg 1.8 in Fedora 23
Nvidia for Xorg 1.18 was actually released few days ago dude, check out RPMfusion page.
>>51533215
Because Debian testing is the best desktop distro that was or ever will be.
Mostly I just like Debian's repos. No messing about with 3rd party repos, everything I ever wanted is in there.
>hurr durr testing isn't a real distro
Suck my dick commie
Because it comes with malware
>>51533914
get a load of this autist
>Implying I'm not
dnf is the best package manager I've ever used.
>>51534572
I'm interested in why you think that. My only complaint with it is that it's terribly slow. It hasn't ever fucked me over like apt has, but I don't think it scores points for that because basically every other package manager does better dependency resolution than apt.
I dunno. Apart from it's nice readable output (another thing apt falls short at) I don't see what's so great about it. check-update is annoyingly pointless since it grabs the repos whenever you issue a command whether you want it to or not, and doing so is way too slow.
I suppose it's probably not dnf's fault, actually, it's their repo server, but still.
Bleeding and broken
Arch bleeds but works
How does Fedora compare to Arch in terms of bleeding-edgeness?
Is that how it looks stock-ish? That's nice looking.
>>51533215
Because I prefer slackware
>>51534747
Looks like your standard Gnome with a few simple modifications to me.
>>51533215
what gnome theme is that OP?
>>51533215
Annoying package distribution system.
There's some software I frequently use still stuck in the RPMfusion wishlist
http://rpmfusion.org/Wishlist
>>51534702
Fedora bleeds like a woman
Arch bleeds like Jesus
>>51533215
But I am
I use it. The name keeps meme-spewing tards away from the user base, and installing anything is usually straightforward except for fucking mpv. Of course I only use it for streaming, so I can just use VLC anyway.
>>51535048
This is the shit that makes me laugh. Fedora users so often say "it just works... except for X" where X is something I can apt install on Debian and it really will just work.
Y'all motherfuckers need Debian.
I don't want to keep updating to a new release every three seconds.
Because I use openSUSE tumbleweed for my rolling release.
>>51535048
su -c 'dnf install --nogpgcheck http://surfernsk.ru/repo/fc22/noarch/surfernsk-fedora-release-21-3.noarch.rpm'
dnf install mpv
>>51535074
Debian "just works" except you have to download a separate deb file to be able to use wifi drivers, extract them with dpkg, put them on a usb drive, pray to Odin the install will actually detect them, then when you're installed you apt-get mpv, only to realize you don't have the OSD because the version in Debians repos is 2 years old.
I installed it a week ago and I really like it. Will probably be my distro of choice for a few years.
What does /g/ think of Boxes?
>>51535318
What advantage tumbleweed have, that Arch don't have?
>>51533215
>It has bleeding edge packages
i was a neet once too
>>51535012
lol
>>51533215
>wanting to use concentrated cancer: the distribution
>>51535318
>>51538161
>rolling release
>not using superior systemd-less void
>>51533225
Fedora isn't as bleeding edge as Arch, but DESU even Arch isn't that bleeding edge. Often waiting weeks on end for really significant projects to get added to the repo.
any opensuse 42 anons here?
>>51538212
If you're not using AUR, you're not using arch.
If anything Fedora is the visionary of all distros. Even Debianfags and Archfags bow down for SystemD. Now in Fedora Rawhide it is using Wayland as default, all hail Lennart Pottering!
This thread has a dangerous lack of gentoo installation.
Install Gentoo.
>>51537922
>WiFi FUD
>Debian stable meme
Actually, if you're normal, you just install it with one of the non-free images and use Debian testing. Or stop being so autistic about the OSD.
fedup has pretty consistently created problems for me. I use it, but I will move back to Debian as soon as Gnome 3.16 is in stable. So...2023 or so.
>>51533215
>proprietary drivers
gay man
>>51538584
You're already using an unstable distro so why not just use Debian testing or sid now? fedup and the 6 month life cycle in general are more reasons why I dislike Fedora. I know you don't _have_ to upgrade with each new release, but like most of you I have autism that prevents me from not upgrading on release day.
I just use Debian testing knowing I never have to reinstall unless something goes wrong. (Which hasn't happened for me in nearly ten years.)
The release cycle is atrocious. I'm using Debian because I want to install and not worry about random updates fucking the whole system.
Buggy as shit, no thanks.
>>51538629
fedup has been replaced, it's done with dnf now
>>51538678
Are the repos still empty?
>>51538750
Which repos is most important to you?
>>51533215
because you redhats shills are annoying
>>51538678
Oh I didn't know that, cool.
>>51533215
Because I doubt its package manager gives as many options and is as flexible as gentoo.
>>51538912
*as portage, woops.
>>51533215
I used it as my main distro for about 6 months, it's very good, but I switched to Antergos and the rolling release is something I find very useful
>>51533533
Who is he?
>>51533914
Red Hat releases malware? do you even understand software that is bad in any linux environment. There is not viruses, malware.. There is only scripts which make the system open ports and use functional software.
Open source remote desktop programs, installed by a script. Bammmm. Not a virus nor malware.
>>51535978
You don't even need that. Assuming you have rpmfusion (and everyone does):
dnf install --releasever=22 --nogpgcheck mpv
No issues at all.
people who use Dock to Dash should kill themselves
>>51539990
Dock to Dash is the greatest extension senpai
Because I'm noob and don't care about updates. I use Linux Mint because justwerks
>>51540030
You're nullifying one of the few great ideas that the gnome shell implements. Autohiding and constantly visible docks are retarded.
I've tried in the past. No drivers for wifi or realtek nic. I understand wifi, but realtek nic?
> It has bleeding edge packages
Why are you posting negative things as if were positive?
>>51540361
>>>51540030
> You're nullifying one of the
> few great ideas that the gnome
> shell implements.
Gnome shell had no great ideas.
>>51540361
Retarded in the rob pike sense of you being able to make them sound bad in a 300 word essay of unfounded bullshit despite reality.
I'm actually seriously considering a move to Fedora from Xubuntu because it's going to move to Wayland at some point, which is looking like it will be the next X11.
Not sure about not having PPAs though, that shit could suck. I don't know why Fedora doesn't somehow become PPA-compatible. PPAs fucking rock, I use so many.
>>51541957
Wayland is a protocol
The next X11 would be a generic wayland compositor that provided RDP but did not manage the windows, relying on a script or program to manage them through the interfaces it provided.
The #1 mistake linux users will make is treating wayland like X and making a million different compositors for all their special snowflake window management needs instead of using a common configurable one.
>>51533215
Yum is really, really bad. I'd be using Fedora over Arch if Pacman wasn't just so much nicer.
>>51541957
>considering a move
>Wayland
>looking like it will be the next X11
>not having PPAs though
>why Fedora doesn't somehow
>I use so many
maybe you should try windows 10; it was made specifically for people like you
>>51541989
>Wayland is a protocol
just like X11
>>51542073
Really? I didn't know they have PPAs on Windows now.
p.s. you're a faget
>>51542046
>yum
Depreciated. No longer exists in fedora as of 22.
>>51542096
You have to be 18 or older to post on 4chan.
>>51533215
> shills fedora
> uses rpm for packages
>>>/out/
Linux devs really need to name their programs better.
Windows has more compatibility for the things I do, such as photoshop, Sony vegas, and playing games on steam.
>>51539080
more like she
>>51542096
X11 is a program and the name of the RDP-like protocol it serves
Wayland is just a protocol. It's a library, not an executable.
Because I'm using debian.
>>51533215
Why would you use the proprietary nvidia drivers?
They are still incompatible with Wayland, no?
>>51542468
Yes, they are. And so are the catalyst and AMDGPU drivers.
>>51542398
>Wayland is just a protocol
just like X11
>>51542498
>I am clinically braindead
>>51542488
Really, since when? I read that they are working on it still, even for the latest 358 beta drivers.
>>51542544
Nvidia said they were working on wayland support over 3 years ago. Current status is that there's still 0 wayland status in sight.
>>51542584
Then what is he talking about?
>>51542523
Check your keyboard, there's a right angle bracket in front of your post. You might have a key stuck.
Because Ubuntu is better especially with its LTS releases.
>>51542667
If Ubuntu actually looked and worked like that it would be nice yes.
>>51542667
it's an official image from Ubuntu. So yeah, Unity 8 will look like that.
>>51533215
Kisses for Rika!
>>51542658
Lrn2read, fuckface.
>>51533856
this
>>51533619
It does work they updated it. Rpm fusion says that it does not work with fedora 23 but it does
>>51539779
That's an outdated version ohana. Step up your game.
>>51533215
>Gnome 3
Fucking idiot weeb
How do I get the screen tearing to stop in Fedora? It's the only thing keeping me from maining it. I've tried several fixes to no avail. I'm running a 960 4gb (lel) and a xeon.
>pls respond
>>51533215
Meme distro
Buggy as fuck
>>51538224
Hier
Bad font rendering.
Once I got used bohomir's patched infinality on Arch I can't use any distro without it.
>>51533856
Infinality isn't and Debian has the worst font rendering of any distro.
>>51538264
>Even Debianfags and Archfags bow down for SystemD
They really had no choice with all those redhat devs working on the kernel and infecting projects like gnome3.
>>51538224
Not openSUSE 42, but Tumbleweed here
>>51533215
bc its called fedora and i dont want people looking over my shoulder thinking i'm some reddit fag
>>51542667
Anyone know what mediaplayer is that?
>bleeding edge
Using arch. Pacman and arch repos > anything else
>user friendly
Who cares. That just makes life more annoying for me since they try to setup shit the way they think I want it.
>>>caring what others use
>>51533215
I am. It's great.
>>51542322
>linux devs
no
distro devs. Linux devs don't do much anymore.
>>51538224
I tried KDE version, but my toaster couldn't handle it. Came back to Arch+Openbox.
>>51542388
>he*
>>51547162
>Meme distro
You're a fucking meme.
>>51533215
Because I have two AMD GPUs.
systemd NSA backdoor? nothx
>>51550991
How the fuck can you keep a straight face on when you tell people about the gnome in your fedora?
GNOME a shit.
>>51533215
>can't enunciate "uses"
kill yourself
>>51533215
because m'lady
>>51533215
Fedora is okay, but I still prefer Ubuntu because of familiarity reasons. I don't know yum, I do know APT.
>>51551048
You're a retard if you haven't realized by now that you can easily replace the desktop environment on any Linux distro.
>>51533215
>implying i need any more edge
>not running based RHEL
I'm using elementary and it pretty much looks the same desu senpaitachi.
>>51537922
>you have to download a separate deb file to be able to use wifi drivers
'No'.
> apt-get mpv, only to realize you don't have the OSD
'No'.
Funny that Red Hat shills have to use lies to defend its shitty beta testbed distro.
I'm on Fedora right now and the package management is crap. I want to compile something and spend 30 minutes installing dev packages and hoping the repo contains an obscure dependency that it usually doesn't.
I tried to install vsxu and couldn't get the required dependencies.
On Trisquel this works great.
>>51533215
I don't like RPM-based distro...
>>51538912
gentoo give too many options, usually got lost int /etc/portage..
>>51542667
*Ubuntu GNOME is better
>>51547302
The sad thing is that Linux has better font rendering than windows but Fedor's ruins it.
>>51553738
>Buying Linux
>>51547312
>I can't read and also I'm fat
Okay. Well, if you bothered to read the docs you'd know that all you need to do is create (read: copy & paste) a .fonts.conf and log out. Infinality isn't required anymore.
God knows why it isn't there by default. Oh, and just for the record, Fedora has far shittier font rendering OOTB.
>>51551009
So? Just use KVM/Qemu if you need play gayms.
>>51533215
Because Debian is far superior.
>muh bleeding edge
so you got a barely tested, unstable OS. Congrats?
>muh redhat
how do you feel supporting a company that charges for an originally free OS?
>muh user friendly
The *buntus do that way better. Also, if you need something user-friendly you should stick to Windblows and MacfagOS.
>>51533215
I use gentoo
>>51538185
His post said nothing about Arch.
