AMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT
AMD has been finished since 2013
AMDFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>implying you would want AMD to finish while inside you
r PC
Is this about video games?
Lol gay kids
>>51487870
Alright now run OpenGL calculations on both cards and tell me which is faster.
>>51487978
This is /v/ logic. They're also the dumbest board on 4chan. Lower than /b/.
/v/ has some of the dumbest people on the planet, they mostly don't know anything about computer hardware, either.
>>51487965
>browsing a Japanese Anime board.
Lel feggit
>>51488004
This is actually true most of the time.
>>51487978
>OpenGL
>AMD
Sorry lad. Nvidia's OpenGL performance under blows AMD off. 950 outperforms Fury under linux.
>>51488088
Think he meant to type OpenCL, that's what happens when you shitpost too fast.
>1920x1080
What is this 2008?
Come back with some 4k tests op
>>51488160
>AMD
>4k
cheeky monkey
>>51487870
What else is new?
>>51488110
Why run OpenCL when CUDA literally gets 4x the performance?
>>51488160
>playing at placebo resolutions
They came out with this cool thing called anti-aliasing like 15 years ago.
>>51487870
bbb b bb but muh zen! at least 40% faster! intelfags running scared! 16 core apus! 14/16nm fin fett!!! HB MOTHERFUCKING M MEMORY ALL OVER THE PLACE!!!! INNOVATION!!!!
AMD is pretty much done for good.
They lost 20% market shares to Nvidia compared to last year's season.
This is simply not sustainable. This company doesn't make any profit at all.
>>51488344
Arent AMDs remaining marketshare those bitcoin miners
>tfw i buy AMD every time i build something for a client
>tfw i go AMD every time i upgrade
>tfw i never had a single problem with it and strangely enough i have 20% to 25% more fps than what reviewers say i should have
Right now im using Nvidia in my main computer just for shadowplay, but it makes laggy records and i have weird 1 sec freezes on some games since the last driver upgrade i did.
>>51488597
same here. have always worked well for me and people i've built pcs for.
>>51488597
Why not use any recording software that uses VCE, or better yet Quick Sync and put your integrated GPU to use?
>>51488642
Unfortunately it's not fake.
>>51488672
Oh wow, just checked other benchmarks of BF4 and it matches up. Always thought Battlefield run quite well on lower cards and when I saw this I thought someone was trying to shill.
Though this is obviously a troll thread due to cherrypicked graphs...
>>51488763
Yeah I was actually surprised to see BF4 have such poor framerates on that test for the lower tier cards, even on ultra. I have a 380 and on ultra in non-multiplayer settings it usually hovers between 60-70 at 1080p.
That article is super depressing though. I seriously wish I bought a 390 or something different, just couldn't fit anything better in my case at that time. I mean the 390 and the 970 curbstomp all of these cards for just a little bit more money.
>>51487870
The card is strangely limited by its power budget.
Go to the CCC, turn it up (what everyone should do anyway), and enjoy 10-15% better performance, without even overclocking.
I still want to know just what the fuck AMD was thinking there. Did they really HAVE to keep the 190W TPD of the 380 at all costs?
>>51489063
I would guess yes, they do to keep numbers sane. Otherwise you just have a card thats nearly as thirsty as a 290 but nowhere near as fast.
>>51489395
That's bullshit.
Just because you turn up the power limit by 50% does not mean the card will consume 50% more power. It just prevents throttling. Realistically I'd say it increases power consumption by 10-15% under full GPU load for 10-15% more performance.
>>51489479
To add a bit more explanation: the card averages around 170W under a heavy gaming load, but will only peak to 190W, then do a full stop and throttle down clock speeds.
If you increase the power budget, it will peak above 190W, and average power consumption will be closer to 190W under full load.
>>51489479
The point is upping power limits lets it potentially do that and thats easy to spin into "hurr durr nuclear reactor" as many reviewers are all kinds of retards.
>>51489520
True. Many reviewer present Furmark numbers as maximum power consumption numbers, when in fact all that number tell you is how much thermal headroom the card has for overclocking. It has no relation to any real usage scenarios ever.
>>51489554
Furmark is so retarded for testing purposes it makes my brain hurt - especially given AMD and Nvidia write code into their drivers specifically to throttle early during furmark (though iirc Nvidia is more aggressive about it) as it can - and will - kill cards even at stock due to the insane load.
Then again most of /g/ doesn't understand how power consumption works either and the stupid charts most review sites use only further compound the problem. Funnily enough tom'shardware has some pretty good kit to get accurate measurements and not some silly kill-a-watt metre and guesstimating backwards based upon the listed TDP of other components.
>>51488388
them and apple
>>51489606
Yeah, Tom's Hardware does the best power consumption measurements, and they have the best tools. Particularly the German team, but their measurements don't always make it into the English reviews, those guys just use the simple old method, and sometimes use the data from the German team.
We need an idealised workload, like Prime95, for GPUs. They're actually working on GPU support, I wonder if it'll be any good for stress testing. It would still be an unrealistically high load, but not an artificial one like Linpack or Furmark.
>>51489796
The german team was the first one to call Nvidia on their 145w TDP bullshit for the 970.
>>51488664
This, you can crossfire pretty much anything amd together
>>51489836
In their tests in general the Nvidia cards don't consume substantially less power than AMD cards. What little power they use less is easily explained with cutting down features on the cards.
>AMD damage control
The GTX980 up to date has been the most power efficient card ever.
You can run that card with a good 400W PSU.
>>51487870
normiefield 4
Next year, their market shares will decrease to 10%
>>51490164
>he's never been to /bfg/
Anything but normies.
I buy AMD cuz I'm a poorfag. I know they aren't as good but they are run good for your money.
>>51490220
I haven't, only big game I might play is fallout 4 or mgs.. maybe.. need a new card..
>>51487891
>since 2013
Try 2008.
>>51487870
So.. why the 970 is above the 390 on an AMD Gaming evolved title? Nvidia drivers have improved since BF4 launched or something?
OH NO I CAN'T PLAY MY DUDEBRO SHIT AT 120FPS!!!
THE END IS NEAR
Retard.
>>51487870
>i want nvidia to be a monopoly
>I want to buy a graphics card for thousands of dollas with almost no improvements
>>51487870
>using origin
>>51488183
Perhaps he should try 3.5K?
>>51490396
Because when you see Gaming Evolved logo appear in a game it means: "This game will run fine on both brands, the fps amount depends on real card power and optimisation" unlike Goyworks that is like: "BUY OUR NEW CARDS IF YOU DON'T WANT CRIPPLED PERFORMANCE KEK!".
So in this case we can say that the gtx960 and 970 are a better choice for 1080p, if you don't mind about fueling an evil company
somewhat related; all fanboyism aside, if my 7950s can run 1440p on a 1080p panel with VSR well enough, does that translate to real world 1440p monitor performance? And where are the crossfire benchmarks for OP?
>supporting jews
>>51489796
>>51489836
>>51489836
"Stupid unrealistic industry standard tests. These guys who do this for a living have no idea how any of this works better then me! Good thing we have Tom's Fucking Hardware for real tests."
>Source: The said nVidia sucks.
>>51490617
AMD reaped what they sowed.
http://vrworld.com/2013/03/06/tomb-raider-amd-touts-tressfx-hair-as-nvidia-apologizes-for-poor-experience/
>AMD tries to be cute by releasing tressfx making Nvidia cards run like shit and withholding the optimizations for months
>Nvidia launches Gameworks which does the same thing but for every game
>>51490702
>amd runs like this: the image
just one of the reasons i will never buy another piece of amd hardware.
>380x, a card that can run for $40-$60 more, barely outperforms the 960, which /g/ always shat on for being a bad deal
Definitely upgrading to the 960 when I get the chance.
>>51489606
>as it can - and will - kill cards even at stock due to the insane load.
nope. only if the card is already defective or a terrible design making it prone to failure regardless of what software is run on it.
>>51488212
>g sync
>freesync
Had me cracking up
>>51490547
The thing about that is, when nVidia cards are thousands of dollars, someone else will come along and say
"Hey, I can hire up old AMD people, recruit some disgruntled nVidia types, put out decent cards for less and curb stomp them."
AMD's replacement isn't going to pop up over night, but if nVidia abuses monopoly someone WILL step up to undercut them.
>>51490845
A wise plan if the only game you'll ever play is BF4.
How about looking up the games you're likely to play yourself?
There's one rule of benchmarks on /g/ and that's: They're all cherrypicked by fanboys. All of them.
>>51487870
Will AMD ever win a benchmark?
Ever?
FUCKING EVER?
>>51490352
Try 1997.
>>51490547
>buying inferior product just to hinder a company going bankrupt
That's not how capitalism works.
![perfrel_1920_1080[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PwPkvGd.png "perfrel_1920_1080[1].png")
>>51490972
Unlikely
>>51487965
>lol gay kids
Confirmed underage, an actual /g/ user would use the term man child
>>51488225
higher resolutions are less performance expensive than higher anti-aliasing.
>>51490777
Gameworks came out before TressFX
Nvidia reaped what they sowed.
>>51491024
>inferior product
it's only inferior if you don't look at the price
>>51487926
l-lewd
>>51488160
for alot of people yes,steam also backs this with data
Can you trust benchmarks?
>1080p
nice res faggot
>>51487978
I'm an AMD fan but it's obviously going to be nvidia
AMD can't do opengl drivers for shit
>>51487870
IT'S OVER NVIDIA IS FINISHED
>>51487870
>Playing bad console games with overpriced video cards
its like getting cancer and AIDs at the same time
>>51488212
>Why run OpenCL when CUDA literally gets 4x the performance?
That's a lie lmao
>>51490904
>AMD's replacement isn't going to pop up over night, but if nVidia abuses monopoly someone WILL step up to undercut them.
No they won't, because there's such a massive fucking entry barrier. It's even higher than CPUs.
>>51487870
Yeah sure let's use a single game benchmark.
OP confirmed for retard.
Dont want to support Nvidia but their high end shits on AMD high end
and since I am poor I need high end so I dont need to update.
so nvidia it is
>>51492550
Their best bet would be licensing some powervr designs and starting there
>>51493188
>and since I am poor I need high end so I dont need to update.
But that's literally retarded
It's always better to buy mid-end so you can update sooner.
>>51493235
>Buy mid end.
>need to upgrade
>buy some high end nvidia and overclock it if shit happens
>works
IME.
>>51493258
Thing is gpu market changes so fast you cannot truly "future proof" yourself so why spend so much money on a gpu that seemingly won't have much dx12 benefits. Especially when 16/14nm is knocking on the door.
>>51493312
i have extra money now for pc.
>>51493258
>>buy some high end nvidia and overclock it if shit happens
>be outclassed by a midrange card a year-2 later
>>51493374
980TI had very good results as a stock in 1440p.
and overclocks better than Fury X even with the recent driver+voltage unlock.
>>51493427
Fury x is a meme with pump whine.
I would get a Fury and unlock it's shader units instead if I went the AMD route.
>> value
>>51493427
doesn't matter honestly
companies are going 14nm next gen
>>51493534
16nm for Nvidia Pascal
14nm for AMD the radeon group VP confirmed there would be 2 new gpus in 2016 using that process.
>>51493534
>now doesn't matter.
ok it matters to me.
>>51493441
i unlocked some amd i had years back and it didnt really end well
>>51493559
>2 new gpus in 2016 using that process.
but what about the ones that are partially defective so they use them on cheaper cards?
>>51493258
My hd 5870 still works fine though.
75-85fps battlefield 4 on high settings.
Silk rd.
90fps planetary annihilation.
Good card, solid investment.
>>51493628
No idea.
Might as well dump them to asus, their direct CU is always crap on radeon anyway.
>>51493646
i dont play battlefield but extremely good for you.
i wanted ot get amd card but those things doint really overclock for game use do they? at least not the one i looked, fury x
>tfw still have 6800
I guess that's all I need to play cs all day.
>>51493742
They do overclock, from my own experience they don't overclock as well as Maxwell gpus but you can still gain a decent amount of performance too.
As nvidia has gpu boost too, even from stock speed, you gain more with a 5% overclock on an AMD gpu than you would with a 5% overclock on a vidia gpu is something to consider as well.
The fury x is overclockable and now has unlocked voltage with sapphire utility, However as HBM is already pretty darn fast you don't gain much from overclocking it. And the core, does not overclock that much either.
>>51488344
How did this happen? Mining doesn't account for such a big market share.
>>51488344
why does nvidia even have such huge majority of market they only make good high end cards
>>51487891
This. the only reason they are still a thing is because of the fanboys
>>51492424
You its actually 3x not 4x sorry
>>51489693
And consoles
>>51493940
Because most people who gayme on pc aren't poor fag's
>what is 750ti
I need an information.
I have a 290 Dual-X OC for 239 europoordollars.
And a 380X for 260 coins.
Which one is the best value since the prices are so close?
>>51494219
290 is more FPS/Euro.
380X got all the new features, like Fiji.
>>51487870
Again? Whatever, until the next time.
>>51494333
I though Fiji was just the codename of the card?
It's interesting features?
>>51494393
True audio, eyefinity, freesync.
Fiji is the codename of the chip for the Fury.
The architecture is GCn 1.2 for 380/380x and GCN 1.1 for 390/390x.
>>51494219
>tfw 7790 HD since 2013
I will get a new one next year ... I hope.
>>51488388
GPU's haven't been relevant in bitcoin mining since early 2014
>>51489063
>Did they really HAVE to keep the 190W TPD of the 380 at all costs?
Yes, because muh memes
They thought they had to do the same damage control Nvidia had to do after Fermi
>>51490740
>Nvidia shill team shitposting
>>51488597
Honestly I think that most of the Nvidia hype has more to do with their whole branding and aesthetic, even though they're not really notably better.
>>51495824
I shit on nVidia fanboys just as much, but /g/ is AMD shill central.
>>51495765
I have a 6950 since 2011.
Share my pain.
>>51495880
At least it's a X900.
>>51493940
Topkek
They dominate the enterprise video cards, they dominate the notebook market, they dominate the low to middle tier video cards (750Ti to GTX970).
The highend tier market doesn't mean jackshit to be honest.
Otherwise AMD would dominate with the R9 390 with all the fanboys shilling around.
>290X 40 bucks higher than a 290 but I need to buy a new PSU for it
>280X just in the middle
This is exciting, but goddamn it's hard to choose.
>>51495952
Post PSU spec and get rekt by us.
>>51496003
Antec 520W bronze.
>>51496003
>muuh PSU
Any good 400Watt PSU can run a GTX980 with a good CPU.
Ofc, you cannot OC.
>>51496073
Why'd you buy Gaymen Graphics Card like GTX980 without OC possibility
>>51495895
7790 is barely worse than the 6870, which is almost exactly the same as the 5870 (all 9xx back then was reserved for dual gpu single cards)
>getting the best single GPU for $500 from 09 for $100-$150 two years ago
>still runs everything fine just fine @1080p in 2016
never again will there be a GPU so cost effective, so efficient, and with such amazing price to performance ratios.... why does life only get worse?
>>51496112
>why does life only get worse
J e v v s.
>>51496112
Well, mine is the Vapor-X version. I suppose I'm good at the moment.
