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Why are the Core 2 CPUs the best CPUs ever?
They are still great today, even if they are soon to be 8 years old!
Apparently people care more about low power draw and operating temps than raw speed.
It's not a bad thing tho.
It just means computers have become a mature technology and your computer no longer becomes horrifically outdated after 2 years.
Core2 Duo was the jump Intel needed to kill off AMD.
They're shit because 2GB DDR2 ram sticks are expensive.
>>51423228
>implying you need more than 2GB of ram
Just add an ssd and add a 4GB swap.
Runs flawlessly.
>>51423256
If you're getting an SSD you might as well get the RAM.
>>51423265
maybe you're right
2GB of laptop ddr2 ram is only $20.
I wouldn't suggest getting more than that tho.
>>51423282
>tho.
Difficult to take advice from retards.
Libreboot and trisquel is lightning on my Thinkpad x200. Love it.
>>51423256
>swap on ssd
>>51423308
shut up senpai
Nehalem is 7 years old and far more relevant.
>>51423228
And shitty now.
>You never need more than 4GB RAM
C2Ds were great but now they are becoming obsolete. You can still use them for light office but thats it. Another problem of old chipsets is the compability, it won't support USB3, PCI3 or SATA3 out of the box. I'm running a system like that myself, the SATA3 PCI works, but it gets bottlenecked from the PCI 1.0 interface.
>>51423337
>muh write cycles
>better disable built-in filesystem features like atime and diratime just so i can save those valuable write cycles!!
why did you even buy an SSD?
tfw i sold my core2quad q8200 pc to a friend yesterday
already miss it
but i enjoy my i5 6500 (actually 6400 because im poor)
>>51423337
>not using swap on ssd
what's the point?
>>51423370
They're only becoming obsolete because of RAM.
If you managed to get 8GB on a core2 system, you can do a Xeon LGA771 to 775 mod and keep it kicking quite hard.
On my main PC I've been cutting windows 7 down, removing services to free up just small amounts of RAM because newer games just don't work with less than 8GB for some reason.
Even on lowest settings- they're simply just programmed to use more than 4GB of RAM. So they do so much swapping you have to measure it in frames per minute. 10 frames a minute isn't that bad, huh?
>>51423381
Same reason I bought new tires for my car.
I take the bus everywhere so I don't have to wear them out.
Still use Pentium m and I still think it works just fine
>>51423339
Nehalem a shit. It runs too hot.
>>51423450
i miss my pentium m thinkpad
it worked wonderfully, until you wanted to browse modern JS heavy websites or even watch 10-bit video, the audio would go out of sync and become unwatchable.
Also, I couldn't open more than 2 youtube tabs without crashing the browser.
my dad's q6600 pc exploded the other day, made him a new one with an i3-4170.
>>51423256
>>implying you need more than 2GB ram
Are you by any chance the turbo autist saying that win2k is still usable as a main OS?
they great when you didn't own 4th or 5th gen core i processor..
core 2 is just shit..
>>51423738
It's perfectly fine for light usage as long as it's never EVER connected to the internet.
core 2 quads > core 2 duos
those were the shit mang
>Building a facebook/word processor machine on the cheap for a friend that does not have much money.
>Pick up a Optiplex 755 for literally $40 bucks on ebay and add RAM and a new HDD for next to nothing.
>Find that the Core 2 Duo E8400 is literally like $7 bucks on ebay and runs twice as fast as the one in the machine.
>Runs everything like a charm.
You would be surprised how cheap you can get a PC for someone nowadays, especially if you look at the Core 2 Duos. Hell, they were originally looking at spending $800 bucks on a all-in-one, but I got that for them for literally $100 bucks (They already had a monitor)
>>51423118
'sup
>>51423758
It is still usable for word processing but
>compatibility issues
>driver issues
>getting instanly keked when connected to the internet due to exploits, etc.
I don't really consider it as a potential main-OS when it wouldn't even be enough for a facebook machine. Just get xp if you want something old.
>>51423384
> Core 2 Quad Q8200 + GT 610
> $0 master race
I use it for a Netflix and console emulator in the living room. Good stuff.
>>51423825
I'd install puppy if I needed security and a lightweight modern system in all seriousness. Fuck Windows
>>51423807
post your core 2s
>>51423825
>getting instanly keked when connected to the internet due to exploits
Actually, I think it's so old and deprecated that the exploits aren't around anymore for the most part....
It could be more secure than running WinXP for instance.
But yeah, it's still pretty shit.
I'm literally in the middle of putting a Q6700 and my old P45 board into a brand new case. "home server" and shit (fancy name for "it runs an rsync script and seeds my torrents")
>>51423869
This is a joke right.
There were early tests done showing it becoming vulnerable within 10 minutes in some cases.
>>51423851
My brother gave an old PC to this little zulu girl he looked after and installed Puppy on it. Basically this 5 year old girl who knows nothing about computers and Windows plays mini games on her old ass puppy PC, happy as can be.
>>51423939
This makes me smile.
>>51423851
Puppy is really good for old systems but I didn't want to mention a distro since this was about win2k at the beginning.
>>51423904
shit, I remember connecting a W2K box (directly) to the internet in like 2005, it was pwned within half an hour.
I believe any router firewall/NAT will stop that stuff though. I have an unpatched XP VM, and between virtualbox's NAT and my router firewall nothing's happened to it. Then again that's just one application that needs to see the internet (and doesn't need incoming connections), and I do no browsing on it.
>>51423975
right. I've never used puppy anyways.
>>51423853
I have one too.
>>51423118
phenom2 > C2D
>>51424433
No shit.
Both are fucking tanks.
PowerPC 970MP (dual core G5 CPU)
Core2 Duo level performance with a superior architecture
>>51423476
Nehalem is fucking great kill yourself. It being too hot doesn't stop it from overclocking 1GHz+.
>>51424573
I had an old ibook G4 and it was pretty speedy except once it got it connected to the net.
Tiger looked nice.
>>51423853
>>51424623
This. I like this. Keep doing this.
>>51424614
Tiger's one of my favourite versions of OS X. I still use my PowerBook and eMac for browsing and other tasks, you just need NoScript or uBlock
>>51424573
>superior architecture
it was such a goddamned housefire that Apple had to watercool them. Even GTX 480s and Prescott P4s didn't need that.
>>51424695
My 970MPs (1 core/CPU active) don't even hit 60ºC under full load with air cooling. The liquid cooling was for a silent computer.
>>51423370
>light office
nigger we use pentium 4's for 'light office' use at work.c2d can do more than just that. it can do everything it could do when it was top of the line and then some.
>>51423118
I have a 2005 computer with a single core computer. Should I buy a Core2Duo on Ebay to boost it ? It has a shitty integrated graphics and each time I want to watch a video, the CPU is at 100%.
I use another computer for daily use btw.
>>51424828
2005 might not be able to take a C2D even if it's 775 (which it might well not be, 478 was more common then)
Q6600 here, 8GB DDR2 RAM, GTX 750Ti
100% fine as a light gaming machine
>>51424848
how light?
>>51424848
might as well use gtx 200 series, too much bottleneck
>>51424857
The most recent games I am playing are GTA 4 and ETS
>>51424866
That entirely depends on the game
>>51424847
Fug, you're right, I need to check the compatibility list.
The mobo isn't that bad. I'm able to run it with 2 GB * 2 sticks of RAM.
>>51424641
leddit xD
>>51424866
He might be in a prebuilt.
Not all games are that CPU dependent, either. And you can always crank AA to utilize leftover GPU.. 16X SSAA and you could probably start to chop League.
>>51424828
Check the compatibility list of your mainboard
If it's a shitty OEM one, still try to check it, but you're probably fucked anyway
>>51424937
It's a prebuilt.
I also probably need to change the thermal paste. That thing is almost 10 years old.
Why dont they make powerpc's anymore? Were they inferior to x86?
>>51424883
>>51424936
well that is total bullshit since i have exactly the same cpu and ram and tried multiple games with multiple gpus (220, 460, 660) with the same results.
>>51423337
you're probably also moving programs to HDDs because of muh P/E cycles
>>51425024
>Were they inferior to x86?
They could not keep up an the last generation really sucked
>>51425024
Apple was promising unrealistic clockrates IBM couldn't deliver in the desired timeframe, G5s were too power hungry and hot for laptop use (the issue was fixed but by the time a company came forward with a worthy CPU Apple was already working with Intel on the transition) and some speculate IBM didn't deliver just because they wanted out of the consumer market, same with how they sold the ThinkPad and ThinkStation lines to Lenovo.
>>51425042
Good joke
I also have a 220 and there are miles between it and anything recent
>>51423409
>Xeon LGA771 to 775 mod
mah nigga
>mfw notching the Xeon-CPU instead of removing the tabs of the socket
>>51425074
I've got an AIO with a 775 socket, even if I kill it it'd be comical while it lasted to have a Xeon in it
>>51423118
Core 2 duo are garbage. Old AMD CPUs still work fine. But intel strugles with flash and other shit. even a E8400 is a serious bottleneck for some games.
Muh Phenom 2 X4 is way better for modern applications than my E8400.
>>51425042
Turn off VSYNC.
>>51425110
>Muh Phenom 2 X4 is way better for modern applications than my E8400.
Well, one is a quad core while the other only has 2 cores.
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>>51423228
Can use ddr3 too.
>>51423370
Can get usb and sata pcie adapters.
They can be great value chips though, can pick them up dirt cheap
>>51423118
Hi
>>51425110
>comparison with a quad core to a dual
>Muh quad core AMD is better
>Intel suckz
I'm an AMD supporter, but come on.
>>51425123
>tfw I found a Phenom II x6 prebuilt with 2x2GB DDR3 memory and a 1TB HDD on the side of the road around the release of Bulldozer
Best part was that I had an AM3+ motherboard with 4GB RAM lying around that I was going to pick up an 8350 for, so I just popped in the Phenom II, got double the RAM I planned, and got a free terabyte of storage
>>51425151
>RAM 443MHz@CL6
>actually slower latency than 400MHz@CL5
this makes me sad.
>>51425192
not fast but this is 2 stic by 4Gb ddr2
Still working just fine for gaming and shit.
>>51425250
put a xeon in there asap
http://www.delidded.com/lga-771-to-775-adapter/
>>51424641
Numix ftw
People using a core 2 duo, why don't you upgrade to a core 2 quad? Can pick them up cheap as chips and you'll have a quad core instead of dual core.
>>51425309
Do they have the same socket and all ? Is it a drop-in replacement ?
>>51425435
>same socket
yes
>drop-in replacement
often but not always, check your mobo compatibility list. If it doesn't support newer chips you may or may not be able to remedy this with a BIOS upgrade.
>>51425478
Thanks, i'll look into it.
is there a big difference between a core 2 quad and a i3? btw im really poor
Perfectly fine. And it can max out the only game i play (Dota2).
>>51425578
>everyday shit
nah
>vidya gaems
There is, but the C2Q will do fine, you'll probably want to upgrade something else first if dollars are scarce.
>>51423337
The swap on an ssd running from a core 2 system is going to be just as slow as swap on a hdd. They still use sata2 busses which at the time made ssds pointless for speed until sata3 rolled around.
>>51425821
I tossed an SSD in my iMac with SATA II and it was a huge upgrade over the HDD
>>51425821
you still get the no rotational latency or seek time benefits. which is a much bigger thing than raw sequential transfer rate anyway.
I've got two Core 2 Quads, but no mobo to use them in :(.
My current mobo is LGA775, but doesn't have Core 2 Quad support. I have a mediocre Pentium Dual in it, someday I'll buy a used mobo and turn this pc into a media center or something. Someday.
>>51424623
hello brother
>>51425754
Pretty sure a c2q would trade blows with an i3 in most modern games simply because it has more cores.
Especially if the c2q is overclocked.
just works
>>51423228
g41 combo board, ddr3 and ddr2 compatible.
still using it with a 771 xeon 5460, ddr3 and ssd
Works fine.
>>51426320 >>51423853
Stupid question here.
How do you do that and will it work in any distro?
>>51426465
Stay the fuck away from g41.
I have a q9550 and I can't push the fsb higher than 340.
That's not even a 100mhz overclock, something like 60 or 70mhz.
And it's the chipset, not the cpu.
>>51426472
utility called screenfetch
>will it work in any distro?
It even works on Windows >>51423807
>>51426541
With CygWin.
>>51426541
Ah, it's something I have to install.
I typing it into terminal on my Fedora install and it wouldn't work ;_;
Thanks anon
>>51426520
I know, can't overclock but that's what i have so it doesn't make sense to get another 775 board, but man, I would love to overclock this xeon
>>51425250
beat this
>>51426783
Ah, sorry.
Yeah I'm using msi g41 mobo, but if I can find something better like p45 for cheap I'd be really happy.
That 70mhz overclock increased my min fps in unigine from ~16 fps to ~18 fps, so I'm pretty sure a decent overclock would be very noticeable.
>>51426627
Well, screenfetch is a bash script, so you need bash.
But a binary of bash compiled for Windows will work.
>>51423118
>build brother a PC out of old spare parts
>460, core 2 quad
>thing runs OK
>upgrade it to a 760
>thing runs like a beast
>plays bf4 at medium
I bought an E8400 few months ago, now thinking about the 775 to 771 mod. Already sent e-mail to some sellers.
>>51426914
thats pretty bad considering my 770 and 4690k run bf4 on ultra @ 2560x1440
and on high for 60 fps
>>51426950
thats pretty good for spare parts
i've been using this badboy every single day since 2009
there's no big difference in speed compared to the new computers, except for gaming of course
>>51426978
No it's not.
That's what I get on my q9550 and hd 5870 at 1080p.
A 760 on that cpu should give 50+ fps on ultra. My i5 2500 and gtx 670 gives me 80fps.
>>51427008
Throw in an ssd and it'll be faster than most new computers you can buy prebuilt at a reasonable price.
>>51427062
I take that back, I play on high settings, not medium.
>>51426844
>1920x1440
what crt?
>>51425151
MA NIGGA ME2
@3.6
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>>51427131
yes, currently i'm on LCD at 1440x900 75Hz
>>51423118
because they are good enough
nobody really needs the newest stuff
all the shills on /g/ just tell you that
>tfw Q8300, 8GB of 800Mhz DDR2 and R7 260x all for free
>still able to play new games
>perfect support "out of the box" on every linux distro
>system also runs as a hackintosh flawlessly
now if only I could get a sandy bridge i5 system for free I wouldn't have to upgrade till 2025 at this rate.
>>51427292
>tfw I have no face
>>51427170
Meant to say "which", not "what" :P So which CRT were you using?
775 to 771 is a wonderful thing. I used an E5450 for mine, rather than one of the X series. The X5450 ran about 6C hotter at idle, and 12C hotter at load.
>>51423337
>>51423409
this. i can't believe how well lga 775 is holding up thanks to the xeon mod. got my e5450 running at 3.69ghz and it's still performing really well. at this rate i'll only be upgrading if my poor motherboard gives out.
I'm still running an unoverclocked E8500
I got 4GB of DDR2 RAM at 4-4-4-12 800hz, an SSD and a GTX 560Ti
I'm also using a silent but not particularly efficient ARCTIC Freezer 7 Pro Rev. 2 cooler
I hear this particular C0 revision isn't as overclockable as others. How far do you think I could OC it? Should I even bother?
I overclocked my core 2 duo 8600 to 3.60 GHz. It was running on stock around 2.30 ghz.
>>51428605
I has an E8400 wolfdale that did 4.2
>>51428605
you'll get a bigger boost if you do the xeon mod. all wolfdale cpus overclock really well though. my old e8400 (it was an e0 though) could do 3.6 at less than stock voltage.
>>51428629
You must have used some serious cooling and I doubt that would be stable for day to day use.
>>51428653
What is the xeon mod?
>>51428666
check the link here
>>51425263
the e5450 is a good one to get. it's nearly identical to the q9650 but has lower TDP. here are some e8400 vs e5450 benchmarks i took, both cpus were at the same speeds, only difference was the extra 2 cores.
>>51428666
>>51428653
Nvm I googled it. I think OC-ing my E8500 is still a better idea given that they go for under 20 bucks now. Even if I fry it I can replace it, didn't realize how dirt cheap they are.
>>51428754
you're not going to fry it unless you do something dumb like increase the voltage excessively and needlessly. but if you're not very familiar with overclocking it might be a good idea to practice on the e8500. the wolfdales really do overclock well.
>>51428654
I had an XP120 on top of it. I forget what fan. though it wasn't exactly quiet
>>51423338
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>>51428770
I found a X5450 bundled with the 771to775 adaptor, thermal paste, bios update and phone assistance from a guy who's done several of these mods for about 55$. Should I go for it?
>>51423118
I feel old. Core i7 is what's inside my computer currently
>>51428933
baka desu, senpai
>>51428954
it'd be cheaper if you do it yourself. also the x5450 had much higher tdp. if you go the e5450 route try to get a slmmb chip which is basically the e0 to slanq's c0.
>>51429133
to expand on this point, you're going to have to operate on your socket with a razor blade anyway. might as well just plan everything yourself using the info on the delidded website.
Hey guise hows this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pT9Hcf
>>51423118
Not sure what you're talking about. A modern quad core has twice the single core performance, quadruple the multi-core performance and consumes slightly less power on top of it.
>>51423220
That was all Sandy Bridge.
>>51429223
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Xkt2P6
Did a little tweaking for you, this should perform a little better in general, especially once overclocked.
>>51423179
This.
Get a C2D+4GB RAM+SSD and congrats, your 8 year computer run as fast as most computers from 2 years ago. At least for normal daily usage.
>>51423179
I foresee this will change pretty dramatically with the advent of VR. Both CPU and GPU manufacturers will need to step their game up to deliver what we now consider normal graphics at 90+ fps. At least for the enthusiast and gamer crowd.
Running two x5450's pinmodded to run 1600fsb @ 3.8ghz, 32gb 800mhz ecc fb ddr2, 750ti @ 1400mhz, and a chink 32gb ssd.
300$ for everything but the gpu, 410 with.
Pick up a dual socket 771 and pinmod overclock them. Ecc ddr2 is cheap as fuck. It's a hell of a space heater though.
>>51430016
The Core 2 Octa dream is real.
I'm running this on an Asus P5Q board.
Help me OC this bad boy to 3.8 (which I was led to believe is a good stable 1:1 ratio)
Do I just change the bus speed to 400 and give it more juice (1.325 V was recommended)
The performance gap between C2Ds and more recent Intel CPUs might not be that remarkable, but the newer ones are definitely more energy efficient and require less cooling. This is especially good for mobile devices such as laptops and tablets, but also for silent and minimalistic desktop setups and HTPCs. I recently bought an i5 Intel NUC which is mounted behind my monitor and I have to really struggle to make it let out any kind of audible noiser.
>>51424433
>>51424507
Q6600 was the original king. Phenom II x4 didn't come out until later, but I will agree with this.
>>51424695
85C is the max acceptable temp, I believe, for PPC 970. Almost all of Intel's CPUs these days are rated up to 100C. Obviously, you wouldn't want either of these to approach max, but this silly house fire meme was created by people who never used a G5 machine a day in their life.
showing its age, but it's sitll chuggin'
>>51432394
Compiling must have taken ages.
Still running like a beast.
Too bad my Radeon HD3870 died and had to replace it with this shitty Nvidia.
>>51432710
I'd wager still less than a day.
If it's even possible, would this C2D to Xeon mod be recommended on a laptop? I'd have to pull it out first to even see if it has a compatible chipset. Or just look up the model. But off principal, would such a modification be recommended for fun?
>>51423118
They really are
>>51432760
Laptop C2Ds use a different socket
>>51429607
>advent of vr
>thinking vr won't flop harder than 3d
>>51432791
Thought that it might. Oh well, thanks anyway.
C2D is still the tits, though. Dad was able to upgrade his shitty old single core laptop with a mobile C2D and now the damned thing is going to last forever.
>>51432837
You can't use a Xeon but there are laptop Core2 Quads
>>51432848
My bad, forgot about that option. I'll look into it. Latitude E4200 with 5GB DDR3 is already pretty peppy. The current C2D gets hot as shit, though, so that's my concern.
>>51432885
Make sure it's not soldered, the C2D in my Latitude XT2 is BGA mounted but other machines use things such as socket P
>>51432926
Forum says it's soldered. Foiled again. Maybe I've got other laptops sitting around that I can mess with. I doubt they're worth it.
>>51432980
Yeah keep in mind that there's also going to be more heat for the laptop to draw off the CPU so you're going to want a laptop with a decent cooling system and make sure to clean it while you've got it open
>C2D five fucking bucks a pop at goodwill
>775 motherboards $5-25
You can build a useful utility box for next to nothing with the things. I fucking love them.
>>51433056
My local Goodwill has P4 shitboxes with 80GB HDDs and 512MB RAM priced at $60-$70
It seems to me that CPU power is not as a significant requirement nowadays, as it used to be in the past.
C2D is getting outdated for other reasons, but it can still perform good enough for the vast majority of tasks, except gaming.
But what's surprising is that an i5-2500K (Nearly 5 years old) can still run most modern games with a strong video card on decent settings.
I think the CPU progress has been stalled, and it's unfortunate that no one has challenged intel to the push the limits more.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk
>>51433062
Overpriced, mine had identical barebones with newer Conroe Celerons for $20. I should have bought more than one.
I am posting from a 3.0GHz P4 right now though, it needs new DDR RAM and I had to buy an AGP 7600GS for it recently. I can't decide whether to finish bringing it back up to standard or switching over to the compact Celeron/HD5450 altogether, as it is finally showing its age with things like video decoding and handling large webpages. But I originally wanted to use it as an HTPC so the idea of building a whole new C2D from reclaimed parts for dirt fucking cheap was enticing.
tl;dr goodwill has too much of my money.
>>51433110
>I think the CPU progress has been stalled
No, the progress has just shifted from trying to get more GHz, to get the CPUs more efficient and run cooler.
>>51433141
Yeah you are probably right, thinking about the mobile and tablet space, way more research in that area nowadays.
>>51433169
x64 in mobile devices when
I'd like to have the eventual possibility of installing full desktop OS on a phone.
BESIDES nigger-rigging '95 or '98 to work in DOSbox.
Also C2D stuff is kind of dead due to stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ftwY6s4WQ8
For $100 you can get a similar type of system now, which uses a fraction of the power and is new.
If you want a based old fag setup look into old Dell 690 workstations. These things came with dual CPU Xeon motherboads and supported Xeon quads with the proper bios. A pair of Xeon quads on Ebay will run you between $20-$50 depending on model. On top of that they use cheap as hell ECC DDR2 memory but better yet it runs in quad channel so you actually get damn good bandwith. The boards support 128Gb of memory with an expansion board. They also come with either 750w or 1000w power supplies.
You can find them all ready to go with 2 dual Core Xeons for about $150. Throw in another $35 for a pair of Xeon quad cores and you've got a pretty sweet setup.
Added bonus is that it will also double as a space heater.
>>51433189
>Added bonus is that it will also double as a space heater.
>still use a P4 and two newish AMDs
I think it might actually get cooler for me.
>>51423118
boot this game
>>51432808
If you think VR is like the 3D gimmick then you clearly know nothing about it.
>>51430313
Well I managed to juice it up to 3.8 Ghz which is 400 FSB and thus 1:1 ratio with the DRAM. Running Prime95 now to see how it holds up but it looks good so far and temps are around 51-53 during a game benchmark and maxed out at 61 with Prime95.
>>51433210
Later core2s have SSE 4.0
>>51433331
hello brother
>>51433110
Silicon is on its last leg. The smaller transistors become, the more they have to worry about current leakage. It's becoming more and more expensive to jump to a smaller process node and less and less beneficial. This is why we aren't seeing a very big speed jump from year to year anymore. People are having to make architectural improvements and think outside the box to get better performance. They're talking about replacing silicone with graphene semiconductors, but that's still a long way off.
>>51433408
Hey, how come you chose 405? Seems like a weird number to pick when 400 is a 1:1 ratio with 800 Mhz RAM. I'm guessing you have that OCd as well.
>>51433408
>>51433331
hello normies
>>51433110
A lot of modern games are poorly coded (especially indie Unity engine ones) or in the case of a lot of triple As purposely bloat themselves because they get money from nvidia/amd so they can continue to sell top of the line cards.
I think VR might actually spark a real race though, because seeing your waifu on 16k displays at 90+ frames is gonna need a lot of juice.
>>51433540
sup fag
The only thing i dont like aside from the gpu is that is does not let me overclock
>>51433526
desu i had no idea what i was doing
>>51433694
Heh ok. Might want to look into those RAM timings. I think regular DDR2 800 MHz has like 5-5-5-15.
lol /g/ hipsters and poorfags never fail to amaze me
>>51423220
AMD killed themselves with the shitty bulldozer architecture
>>51433738
What do you use your computer for Mr. moneybags?
>>51423118
>Why are the Core 2 CPUs the best CPUs ever?
>Picture of Core 2 Due
You mean the Core 2 Quad right?
>>51423282
2gb of RAM isn't enough to browse nowadays
>>51433840
Except for Stallman. He just wgets the html files and reads them.
>>51423370
My company just spent 1 million dollars buying refurbed core 2 duo PC's for our indian office, cause we dont need all that shit for office workers.
Before that they were using a mishmash of pentium 3 and 4 XP boxes for 11 years. Now they got Windows 7 and that's good for atleast another decade or two.
>>51433757
>Literally broken Phenom 1
>Phenom II that only managed the IPC of the budget 4MB Yorkfields in a Lynnfield world
>Athlon II that had barely more IPC than the Athlon 64 X2 which came out 4 years earlier.
They were having problems before Faildozer.
>>51423476
Seems to run just fine at 4.4Ghz with an air cooler everyone and their mother uses to handle >150w tdp
>>51432808
Anon-chan, it's not a meme. It will still suck like phones because of the shitty input method. (touch screens suck, Kinect like tracking also sucks)
>>51423853
not on core 2 machine now but have a C2Q desktop and C2D thinkpad
core 2 cpus are still good imo
E8400 in my server and SU9300 in my laptop. Both take ddr3 exclusively.
Both machines have a ssd and they are just as fast as brand new machines for everything that I use them for. I just wish the laptop had sata3 instead of sata2. And a higher resolution screen. But hey, for a 7 year old laptop, it is awesome.
>>51423118
I still have two of them up and going, not as my main machine though.
Upgraded from my Core 2 Quad Q6600 G0 last week to a 6600k. Experience no difference.
![WP_20151115_23_06_42_Pro_LI[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AYWgdjt.jpg "WP_20151115_23_06_42_Pro_LI[1].jpg")
pls help
>>51434666
Did the same change about a month ago because my motherboard was flaking out and I feel the same way
>>51434666
I upgraded from an X2 5200+ to a Phenom II X4 940.
No difference.
Phenom II X4 940 ~ Q6600
So, we've established there's no difference between an X2 5200+ and an i5 6600k.
>>51434707
Well, I think the intel box is prettier than the AMD one, so there's that.
>>51434679
Does the website say it supports it?
Did you upgrade the BIOS?
>>51434722
no and yes =(
I have a qx9650 that I want to use. It's supported by the chipset, just not the system board. Machine had an option of coming with a q9650 I believe but not the qx.
>>51434679
Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 Processor (2.93-GHz, 3 MB L2 cache, 1066-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Duo E7600 Processor (3.06-GHz, 3 MB L2 cache, 1066-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Processor (3.0-GHz, 6 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 Processor (3.16-GHz, 6 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Duo E8600 Processor (3.33-GHz, 6 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Quad Processors:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Processor (2.66-GHz, 4 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9400 Processor (2.66-GHz, 6 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550 Processor (2.83-GHz, 12 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9650 Processor (3.0-GHz, 12 MB L2 cache, 1333-MHz FSB) X X
What did you try?
![WP_20151115_23_15_46_Pro_LI[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0poex4y.jpg "WP_20151115_23_15_46_Pro_LI[1].jpg")
>>51434742
didn't realize c2d was upside down. Scrapped the qx and I was really hoping it would work.
How do I bring my temps down? CQ40 laptop here.
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>>51434755
If you have a Q9650, it should make literally no difference.
>>51434791
I don't. Those are my only core 2 processors. For what I use it for, the qx would literally just increase my power consumption without actually giving me any benefits but I was hoping it would work because it would make reselling the machine a lot easier when I replace it with something a bit more efficient.
I thought the only difference was an unlocked multiplier (which doesn't mean shit on an oem board) so I figured it would work since the board supports the q9650.
>>51434827
E8400 rig shouldn't have a hard time selling, and the difference between that and a QX9650 is actually worth less than the quad alone. Those go for $100.
>>51434666
>>51434680
>>51434707
That would save me $500 for the year
>>51434865
I bought a new gfx and an ssd a year ago to upgrade the Q6600 machine. All was working fine.
Don't really know why I decided to spend 500 eurocoins on 6600k, mobo and ram.
You could try and buy a DDR3 motherboard for cheap, increasing RAM speed will help as well.
>>51434864
I don't actually know if the qx works though. The machine does post with it though so I guess that's something. I pulled it from a broken machine. I wouldn't be able to sell it as a "used" processor since I have no idea if it is actually fully functional.
As a side note, how much can I expect for an hp compaq pro 6000 with 2gb ddr3 ram (I might buy an extra 2 gigs for it after I remove my 8 gigs) with an E8400, bgn wifi card, 120 gb sata3 ssd, maybe an extra 1tb hard drive, windows 7 pro (or should I install 10 pro?), and a dvd rom drive?
>>51434969
Just hang onto it. Don't buy anything extra if you want to sell it. That's just retarded. Anything you could reuse in a newer machine hang on to. You would have to sell it without OS unless you intend to sell a $50 computer with a valid Windows 7 key.
>>51435020
I was going to keep one of the hard drives (currently has three including ssd). I have so many extra drives because I replace after a year or two and just reuse the old ones. I was also going to keep most of the ram for my new machine. It has four ram slots and is currently loaded with two 1 gigs and two 4 gigs. I figured it would be easier to sell with four gigs instead of two and I figured two 1 gig sticks would be dirt cheap on ebay or something. I have done zero research as of right now. I don't even know what I'm going to replace it with yet, I just know I'm going to replace it in the next few months since I use it as a file server and I would like some redundancy without buying even more drive bay adapters or just letting shit flop around in the case. It has a windows 7 pro oem sticker on it so it would have a legit copy of windows 7 pro or windows 10 pro.
It's been a good machine, I just want to be a little more serious about backing up my data and I also like to replace the hardware that I rely on regularly so I don't have to deal with unplanned outages.
This machine is made entirely of free or old products. Other than a sata power splitter and a 2x2.5 -> 3.5 drive bay adapter (both of which I'll keep when I sell it), I have spent $0 on this machine. The only cost is power.
>>51434969
The base system is worth around $80. With a SSD, maybe $120. Another 2G, $130 or so.
You could try to get more, but things start really getting compressed with C2Q/Phenom II/Lynnfield/Nehalem/Sandy Between $150 and $300.
>>51434884
That Q6600 is almost a decade old we all will upgrade eventually. It is just this thread made me feel better for not upgrading.
Celeron 1.7ghz 512mb
Pentium 4 630 3ghz 1GB
E5200 @ 3.75ghz/4.4ghz 4GB
i3 530 @ 4.2ghz 4GB
i5 3470 stock 4GB
i5 4690k @4.2GHZ 8GB
the e5200 system was my favourite by far, fucked about with overvolting and general tweaking so much. The current one is okay but theres no real noticable benefit for spending hours fine tuning
>>51435335
Why do you upgrade so frequently? I am curious for scientific reasons of course.
I used to upgrade yearly (AMD) because of some shit problem or another until I built my 4770k system and I see no reason to upgrade now or in the near future
>>51435176
>That Q6600 is almost a decade old
in 2000 when a 1GHz P3 or Athlon was cutting edge a decade-old CPU was a 386
in 2005 when P4s and 1st-gen A64s were hot, a decade-old CPU was a Pentium 133
and now our decade-old CPUs ain't hot stuff anymore but can still run with the current gen for a lot of everyday stuff
is the ride over?
>>51435439
Diminishing returns =(
Or bad competition. I'm not sure.
>>51435335
>spending hours fine tuning
spergfag...
>>51435476
It's a bit of both.
AMD can't keep up with Intel worth shit. Because of this, Intel has no reason to come up with anything bigger than minor 5-10% improvements to performance/power efficiency with each generation.
It's been like this since Sandy Bridge. The jump from Core 2 to 1st generation i7 was fucking huge, AMD couldn't come up with any decent competition for it.
Then came Sandy Bridge, and AMD still had nothing.
So far we've seen teeny tiny improvements with each generation since SB, and now AMD finally has Zen which might possibly maybe be a worthy competitor to Skylake.
Hopefully Zen is good enough to make Intel get off their asses and come up with something that's more than 5% faster than the current generation.
>>51435439
Change in focus. We have more than enough CPU power for everyday stuff. Now people want it in smaller form factors, with high power efficiency.
>>51435537
>AMD still had nothing
>8350 goes toe-to-toe with 2600k
>800x600benchmarks.jpg
m8...
>>51433909
>muh IPC
>>51423790
>"literally" every other word
>dollar sign and typing out "bucks"
Keep buying Intel exclusively, good goys. In a couple years we'll be paying $999 for 2 GHz quad-core Celerons.
>>51435705
AKA 6 months of an AMD power bill.
>>51423789
mah nigga ...it works for anything
gotta upgrade my gpu wit a r7 360 for muh games and im good for another 5 years (had a C2D E5800 clocked at 4Ghz for 5 years -upgraded mid year)
>>51435705
But muh nanometers...
>>51435422
This is over a 10 year period. The jumps from single to dual core, then ddr2 to 3 systems. I'd never had a quad core before the i5 so wanted to see what people were raving about. I switched from the 3470 to 4690k purely because I missed tinkering. Was it worth it? not really and haven't changed anything for a year or so now. New intel stuff just doesn't have the big performance jumps like the old days
>>51435566
still the most important thing
http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core2-Duo-E8500-vs-AMD-FX-8120
>Even the older Wolfdale C2D architecture is almost on par clock per clock with the AMD FX lineup.
TIP TOP KEK
You can't make this shit up
>>51423228
I got 4 sticks I'd basically throw at you for free.
>>51423228
this, try building a 775 rig now from scratch
>>51436537
>cpuboss
Why are you shilling this processors? Would it be better to buy an used C2Q9550 than a new and more expensive FX-6300?
>>51433840
I'm really liking this 2GB isn't enough for anything meme.
I have 20 open tabs in chrome right now with 2GB ram.
Install linux.
>>51433693
Almost forgot to add before I clocked out for the night, any decent motherboards I could replace it with? or perhaps getting an e3110/3120 would be a better option?
>>51423842
A fucking gt 610, TIL thats enough to run windows
I experience small freezes and my computer is a bit slow, is it the ram? or the cpu?
>>51439251
It's your OS
>>51439261
How so? i thought windows 7 was the best for now?
>>51439276
you thought wrong
>>51439506
What do i get then?
>>51439539
OpenBSD
>>51439539
debian gnu/linux
>>51439566
>>51439573
Can i install windows games?
>>51439608
i didn't think your low spec machine supported anything in the way of games, but, yes.
>>51439608
Yes, as long as they aren't using DirectX 10 or above.
If you have to use Windows though, 8.1 > 7.
