Who /ramdisk/ here?
>Installed Fallout 4 on it, because loading times were still bad even on SSD
>up time
I just woke up, okay?
Gentoo
>mfw
>>51404543
Will we get to a point where we have permanent 64 or 128gb ramdisks that just save and load from a hdd during shutdown?
Seems very doable, so why don't high end comps do that?
>>51404576
>ramdisks that just save and load from a hdd during shutdown
that's what mine does. using Gilisoft Ramdisk, saves to .img, saves on shutdown and mounts on startup, and I have set it to write any changes to .img every 10 minutes.
>>51404576
What is the fucking point. The OS uses unused memory as a disk cache. If you want an entire folder in memory just scan over all the files reading them, it'll take just as long as loading a ram disk image, except won't be in the way when applications actually need to use RAM, and you're not forced to do it to boot up.
Ramdisks are the fucking future!
Still sucks ass a 32 gig config costs like $200+. I hope prices abate soon.
>>51404543
>64gb ram for literally playing games
wow what a fucking waste.
not runig winshit vm on ramdisk xD
dual cards hd7970 and intel so no problemo. linux uses intel, vm uses hd7970 with drivers
>>51405163
>for literally playing games
I use my computer for more than games, mainly for work, but now that I have a few days off... games.
>>51405163
>slightly more expensive than an SSD
>Much faster than an SSD
I do not see the issue here.
>>51405090
this.
>>51405251
also.
>>51405163
calm down weev
What would be nice is a motherboard with native ramdisk support. For example some 10000 mAh battery that keeps the memory running so even if power gets cut out, it still retains everything and you don't have to load anything.
>>51404543
Too bad Fallout 4 is a pizza shit.
>>51405341
SSDs nullify this problem though. Just save ram disk image to an SSD and load that every time you boot. SSDs can transfer an unrealistic 32GB ram disk image to RAM in a minute or two.
>>51405379
op here, my ramdisk image is also on my SSD
I should put Minecraft on a RamDisk
>2015
>not using a cachedisk
>tfw RAM is still 7-10$/GB
What the fuck is going on? I can literally buy a 256GB SSD for almost $100 but I can barely buy 16GB of RAM with that. FUCK.
>>51406414
Something having to do with factory fires.
>>51406098
>cachedisk
how do I into cachedisk?
8gb + xubungles here
I do android development with android shitio
Is there anything to be gained by me setting up a ramdisk?
>>51404672
It's not about how fast you get it into the ram, it's how quickly you can manipulate large amounts of data without having to pull and push from the hard drive while manipulating it.
>when applications need to use the ram
The applications are totally inside ram at this point, and are more directly read from and written to.
The ram interface is at least an order of magnitude faster than the most capable ssd interface, whether sata3.0 or pci-e
>>51406719
that was a tremendous lie.
companies like amazon and shitheads at newegg have literally, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of ramsticks, but they all agreed to drastically increase the price, becuase why not?
and thus we have the stupidly over priced hardware of today.
>>51404576
>one block of ram becomes corrupt
>say goodbye to all your work
>having to waits twenty minutes between shutdown and power on
toppest kek, at least use an SSD...
>>51404543
Has Bethesda mentioned anything about this? Waiting 10 seconds between every cell on a SSD is ridiculous.
>>51406098
you mean a caching ssd?
or how about those solutions that either cache or raid ramdisk and ssd?
>>51407550
>RAM corruption
>2015
What kind of ram are you buying?
Inb4 muh "cosmic rays are real and present danger"
>>51407601
outdated shit engine
Won't all your data be wiped out if the power gets cut off?
>>51408444
>trips
check'd
see >>51404644
>>51407483
Once files are in the disk cache then they are entirely in RAM. After that the only disk operations required are fully buffered writes (i.e. they happen in the background and don't block the application).
>>51408883
Disk cache /= system ram
You'd still be exchanging data between the hard drive and ram before and after computations, and that takes more time than just keeping all data on the system ram, which is what a ram drive does
>>51409319
But the disk cache is in RAM? Just like a ram disk is in RAM.
Once it's in RAM (i.e. has been read and not pushed back out yet) you no longer have to read it again. It takes zero more time than a ram disk, but it's a less retarded way of doing things for anything not 100% temporary.
Unless you're running Windows XP, your operating system isn't retarded, and using a ram disk for speed is pointless memejerking.
>>51405414
You're literally braindead
Experiment time!$ time cat /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/* > /dev/null
real 0m4.262s
user 0m0.012s
sys 0m0.472s
$ time cat /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/* > /dev/null
real 0m0.473s
user 0m0.016s
sys 0m0.204s
Wow, it's like my operating system magically put the files in some kind of invisible "ram disk" after the first time I read them!$ sudo mount -o size=512M -t tmpfs none ./memedisk
$ sudo chown me:me memedisk/
$ sudo cp /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/* memedisk/
$ time cat memedisk/* > /dev/null
real 0m0.452s
user 0m0.000s
sys 0m0.212s
Damn look at those epic ricer speed gainz on my memedisk. Sure glad I'm not letting my RAM go to "waste" and filling it up with memedisks so that pesky, untrustworthy operating system disk cache doesn't try and speed things up on its own.
>>51409764
>me:me
>>51404543
>implying that a ram disk will help fallout 4's shit tier load times
>shutting down your computer when you go to bed
>>51410039
>Shutting down your computer ever
Most desktops waste like 1$ worth of electricity a month if left idle 24/7 but turned on.
>>51410113
oh no im loosing 6 sheckles every month how will i ever afford this?
>>51410159
meant year not month
>>51410172
Stop exaggerating. Even an idle desktop (assuming a modern haswell/skylake i3/i5) wastes ~10 watts with the screen off. That's a whopping 1 dollar each month of wasted electricity. I guess that's still not a lot though.
>>51409508
Disk cache is not in system ram, it is on a small ram chip inside the hard drive.
When data is sent from the hard drive to system ram, the same communication route is used whether the data is coming from the spinning disk or the cache.
The cache only improves transfer speed incrementally because the disk doesn't move when the desired data is already in cache. However, the data must still be sent from the cache to system ram in order for it to be processed.
>>51410242
how is that exaggeration?
say im away from my computer for 50% of the time. that would be only 6 sheckles a year
>>51409764
Holy shit, I'm in tears!
>toppestofkeks.png
Hat's off too you, anon.
ITT: /g/ doesn't know what disk caches and ram disks are
>>51410956
You forgot to attach genricsmugloli.jpg
>>51404543
How much does your PC cost
and what do you do with it?
>>51411047
2K€
CG Work.
>>51411001
32GB RAM here
RAM Disk all day
