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it's for gayming and may become my first build. What do you think? Suggestions? Substitutions? Is the cpu powerful?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/raggedstag/saved/#view=BRgqqs
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Oh and I'll buy my own case fans.
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And one last thing, budget is below $1100
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- Buy and i5 for gaymen
- Asrock is trash, get Asus or Gigabyte
- If it's for gaymen you want at least 8GB RAM
- You don't need to buy windows, just pirate it
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>>51391501
Not into pirating OSs. I torrent music all the time but I'd rather just pay a little bit.
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>>51391501
Is the i7 helpful in photoshop?
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>>51391613
yeah, you're into being a sucker.
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>>51391613
buy a key on reddit, much much cheaper, you can can get that glorious Windows 10 Enterprise for $50
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>>51393203
Mm ok what would I upgrade with the extra 45?
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>4GB means 4GB
is that some kind of jab at Nvidia?
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>>51393203
Why buy a key? It's exactly the same as pirating, but you pay some kek for the privlige? Pirate & use Daz loader
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>>51393250
Yes
Even though theres really not a difference
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>>51393250
Yes. The released that promo image when the 3.5 fiasco came to light
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>>51390956
>4gb means 4gb
top kek m9
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>>51393279
The memory speeds beg to differ
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>>51390956
>Entry level
That can mean a lot of things.

Also...
>Permission denied.
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>>51393336
Oh shit
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>>51393386
>i7 non-K with Z87 (overclocking) motherboard
>3.5 GB meme 970
>the worst Corsair PSU in history
>DVDRW in 2015
>buying win 10

Yes, I'll take the J U S T with a side of FUCK MY SHIT UP, senpai.
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>>51393430
OK I removed the DVD drive, you're right. However what mobile would you suggest? And do I need an i7 for ultra 1080p 60fps and heavy photoshop?
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M8 u might want a graphics card
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>>51393386
>Entry level
>Crap build

ishygddt
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>>51393475
>And do I need an i7 for ultra 1080p 60fps

That has much more to with GPU than with CPU

You don't need a $300 CPU for gaming, a $200 i5 would be enough. Hell even the $120 i3 4170 is great for gaming, but that would probably not be the best combo for a 970

Dunno about photoshop
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>>51393475
>i7 for photoshop

Do you even know how photoshop works?
See attached pic. PS will use your card for acceleration. Buying a i7 for PS or games wont do you any better then a i5 and if it does it wont by much. Also how the fuck you going to have a 970 working hard and your graphic carp capped at 3.5 gaybytes?~?~? Why the fuck are you getting a 970. What ever its your build. I would get a i5 unlocked with a 390x. 8GB of video ram will handle what ever any game and photoshop trows at it.
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>>51393675
Nope, that helps.

>>51393669
That's why I'm here

>>51393674
i5 5690k it is.
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also note in the first paragraph PS is asking for a bigger amount of vram than regular ram. More vram is better and with the money you're saving get better ram than GSkill maybe Crucial, Klevv or Kingston . I bought Gskill and had to replace them also I do print and graphic work so trust me get some thing better thank gskill, PS will thank you.
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>>51393922
Cool, thanks. Is 1866mhz ram a meme?
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>>51391613
> having a buttdget
> not wanting to save 100 dollars

Why. If I can download more rams I'd do the same.
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>>51394086
Because it's a pain in the ass that affects you for years when you pirate some asshole's spyware-filled Windows
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>>51394111
This
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>>51394064
1600 is fine just get it from some one better thank gSkill. Also its ok to pay for your OS...but if you want to get past this see if any one of your family member has a dead windows 7 PC or laptop they are not using. get the windows 7 serial from it install and update to windows 10 for free. If not just get win10 and fuck all these guys in here.
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Best chipset for gaming, no over clocking?
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>>51394346

Keys for a laptop version of windows won't work on a desktop. Hell they won't even work on different laptops. OEM Windows is made specifically for its motherboard.

Not only will it not work, apparently it's also illegal
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>>51394499
16GB is more than you need but thats not a problem for that price.

You're Good to Go!
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>>51394572
Thanks for the info anon, this I did not know.
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Can I build a PC for £1020 that will be able to play new-gen games like Fallout4 at max settings?
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>>51394665
Well come on
1080p? What framerate are you aiming for?
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>>51394698
1080p, and 50-60average. futureproof for 5 years minimum
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>>51394754
Pshh for that much you'll have trouble.
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>>51394768
I might have £1200 by the end of january next year, would this cut it?
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>>51394782
I don't K of man I think you may be looking at a 980
If it weren't for the future proof length a 970 and my build (op) would do.
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>>51394815
OP build says permission denied for some reason.
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>>51390956
I'd suggest an r9 390 and not the 970. Look up comparison videos and you'll see. Also an I-5 should work just fine or even better than the I-7
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>>51394855
Latest screenshot is mine. The link was shit anyway.
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OK for everybody to know, THIS IS ME, OP >>51394499

This is my most refined build.
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>>51393129
If you need ht get a xeon.
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>>51393317
>19.88GB/s

People still buy this bullshit card?
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>>51394924
I have no idea why.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=udXCusTnRsY


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9cKZiJw6Pk
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>>51394924
You bet. No fucking clue why
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R9 390 seems scary though becuase muh drivers and optimization

Maybe /g/ is just getting to me.

Anyone have personal experience w8th the 390 that they can share without shilling AMD?
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>>51395016
Amd drivers are fine. Just don't use the beta if you're gonna be a beta
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Is modularity in PSUs that important?
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>>51395241
not if you can manage cables worth a damn
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>>51395016
What's your current gpu?
I went from a hd5870 to gtx 670 and I regret it.
Not because it's nvidia, but because i used to play on high settings on the 5870, but on the gtx670 with ultra settings I'm getting the same fps.
Can barely notice the difference between high and ultra...

If you want to consider the 390, it has plenty vram so that won't be a bottleneck for a while, but AMD cards don't do tessellation as well as nvidia. But you do get the tessellation slider.
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>>51395016
I have 2x AMD MSI 7950s for 4 years no driver problems.
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>>51395272
>tessellation
Rigged by nvidia Gayworks
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>>51395292
If AMD had more tessellation units like Maxwell, they would perform much better with gameworks.
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>>51395272
Current gpu is whatever they stick in a ps4...
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What's the best mid tower below 120?
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http://slickdeals.net/f/8256759-hp-envy-750xt-desktop-i7-4790-12gb-ddr3-2tb-hdd-geforce-gtx-980ti-936-after-90-rebate-free-s-h
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>>51396674
>12gb
why is this even a thing?

>they mixed two 2gb sticks with two 4gb sticks of ram
lel.
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>>51396729
i dunno, but you can't really beat this deal
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>>51394499
remove shitty CX PSU

investing on a good PSU is one of the best things you can do.
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>>51393279

GCN 1.1 (hawaii)'s memory system actually performs worse due to the lack of compression. you can actually store more inside the 970's gimped memory than in the 290's 4gb of memory, which is why AMD only sells 8gb versions now.
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Go on Amazon:
>50$ k380 case
>50$ intel socket mobo
>200-250$ Xeon CPU(don't fall for the i7/i5 meme)
>60$ 4GBx2 RAM
>150$ gtx 950
>50$ cheap WD HDD
>25$ chinese cheap PSU

Yes, I'm a magician. Also remember: PC has free games.
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>>51400091
I'd say spend an extra $10 and get an r9 380 from newegg.
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This is my first build too.

Critique me. Tell me where I fucked up, senpaitachi.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DZ6dLk
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>>51400575
Your SSD is very small, it may only support the OS and not much else. If that's the only reasons for using the SSD then that's fine, just store everything else on the HDD.

I think some equipment comes with it's own thermal paste. You don't need to buy it separately. You can always get some from the local parts shop if you need some.

Otherwise, you're good. I'm spending about the same for the same quality: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/hzBJK8
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>>51400717
Why'd you choose that cooler?
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>>51394111
>Not downloading an official ISO from digital river years ago and saving it on your external hard drive
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Is an FX 6300 CPU a good match with a GTX 960?

I can't wait until you guys fuck my shit up for asking
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>>51400922
Because the 212 evo isn't compatible with the case I want, and I don't want to an AIO or water-cooled system for this build.
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>>51400992
>using AMD cpus

Come on man get an i3 if your budget is that tight.
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what's a good intel motherboard if I don't plan on SLI or overclocking?

I'm guessing that if I don't bother with that pretty much everything goes, but I wonder if someone has a good recommendation.
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Is this the shitty build thread?

Looking to make a fuckaround/HTPC/console replacement build for <$500. I got this ITX case for free, so I figured why not.

How's this look?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qzbDYJ

It seems that a blower model doesn't exist for the 370 or 380, and I'd rather not give nVidia any more of my shekels.
I'll probably drill vent holes for the GPU using a drill press in the machine shop.
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>>51401065
>I'll probably drill vent holes for the GPU using a drill press in the machine shop.

is that

is that a good idea
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>>51401080
Why wouldn't it be? The top panel is removable, and it's made of aluminum. Should be easy to machine a nice hole pattern for extra airflow.

I'll only do that if the temperatures are bad (which I sort of expect them to be)
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>>51401065
If you are going to have a lot of game and movies I would ditch the SSD for a single large hard drive you could probably get a 3TB HDD on sale.
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>>51390956
8 cores means 8 cores amirite
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How good is the i3 4170 for gaming? It's only two cores and no overclock but is that really necessary if I just want to play games, browse the internets and do some light image editing?

I want to know if it's good because it's mega cheap and my budget is kinda tight

Also would it bottleneck a 960 or R9 380, or even a 380X which I may consider getting if it's not too expensive
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>>51402966
> I "just" want to play games

That's one of the more demanding tasks for a PC (depending on the game), so why "just"?
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Gigabyte R9 280X OC Rev.2 WindForce
or
Sapphire R9 280X Vapor-X?
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>>51390956
>>>/v/
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>>51403877

this is about a PC build

take your comment to trash.
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>>51391613

Typically the most seeded torrent is safe, read the comments. Install via USB.

Alternatively buy a key. Don't buy a copy like that though...
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>>51403877
>Computer hardware is definitely not technology
I see you are new here.
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>>51399927

Thats not what the compression technology is about anon - its there to ease bandwidth constraints, not actually store more data (see also: tonga and fiji using the same tech).
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>>51402966
This except I wanna do ligght audio/ music shit. Pls help a hopeless newfag out
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>>51403965
>>51403990
Games are for children
>>>/v/eddit
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>>51390956
hello, Danilo
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how did I do ?
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>>51404244
my old build
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>>51394111
What the fuck are you even doing here
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>>51404256
holy shit that's terrible
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>>51390956


CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($259.86 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-L9x65 33.8 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-SLI ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Trident X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2400 Memory ($55.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card ($217.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $864.57
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http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/wRyTK8

How do you think this one will do mates? I am looking for something to replace my laptop since it can't play games for shit. Will buy everything from Mindfactory and I will buy the case from my own country.
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>>51404269
it was great 6 years ago
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>>51404348

I think he meant cable management and the overall look of the build is shite.
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>>51404308

looks good but i'd get a 960 imo. also may want to get a more powerful PSU for upgrade purposes down the road. 350 is a little low.
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>>51404271
Stop pushing that garbage ricer gSkill brand
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>>51404355
Who cares what a computer looks like inside? It's a fucking computer, the parts all look the same and they all look boring. Messy wires make it easier to change parts, and cases with windows are for homosexuals.
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>>51404373

A 960 would be great, but the 860K is a bit of a bottleneck so it's kind of dumb getting a 960 since more and more games today use CPU power, same reason I don't get the G3258, two cores is just not enough. I am wondering if I even need the 950 over the 750Ti. As for the PSU, I guess I could go for a 450W, but I don't think it will be much of a difference in upgradability, since they both have 6-pin connectors and rarely will a card with a single 6-pin require more than 350W.

>>51404384
Airflow and ease of replacing stuff, cleaning it.
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>>51404355
I had just pulled out a malfunctioning gtx8800
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>>51393475
PS isn't that intensive, I do some, I make some images for posting on /g/ and I have an i5 3470 and GTX 970
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>>51404415

for ~100 more you could change the mobo to accomodate an fx-6300 (which won't bottleneck it) with a gtx960. psu's aren't expensive so it's better to get more than you need simply because if you DO want to upgrade later, you'll have to buy another one for anything more powerful.
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>>51404499

Thing is I already have a main gaming PC at home with a 4790K and a 970, this is something to have in my dorm and play games at medium on 1080p.
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>>51404195
Hello George.
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>>51400992
You get an AMD CPU only if you're into OC olympics, or you got a steady supply of nitrogen in-house.

Biggest issue with AMD is that a lot of the things out in the market simply do not use the many cores that AMD gives you, so buying even a 6-core FX, let alone a 8-core, will not help you. There's a reason why Intel dedicated to consumers 2-core 2-threads, 4-core 4-threads and 4-core 8-threads.
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>>51391501

I would even start to argue 8gb is not even good enough for gaymen anymore
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Help, I have a budget of $2500 for a PC+4k monitor
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/qZdYsY
Is this good?
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>>51404557
Really? That setup ugly gets you medium? On what games and what framerate?
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>>51404727

No, the 970 gets me high-ultimate (I mix setting a lot, textures and occlusion are always on the highest) on 1440p at 60fps.

The PC I am planningo on myking for my dorm (>>51404308) I expect it to do medium at 1080p at 60fps.
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>>51404374
Corsair RAM best RAM
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upgrading from a laptop with a 630m.
i'm no good with hardware, how does this look? budget was 2300 euro
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>>51404708
>$2500
>crossfire Radeons
>a FX processor
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>>51404790
If I went Intel, I'd be stuck with an i5 and two 980/390Xs instead
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>>51404784
>buying windows
>buying windows 8.1

>why get wireless card
>why get sound card
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>>51404795
One i7 and 980ti maybe?
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>>51404795
But senpai, you get your FPS raped by the FX, try to scour more money and get a i5.
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There's no better thread in /g/ for this so.

Best laptops with 15-17" screens with resolutions larger than FHD?
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>>51404821
>one 980 Ti
And it'd still be worse for 4k
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2947547/components-graphics/amd-radeon-fury-crossfire-review-2-fast-2-furious.html
>>51404827
But how badly? If it's about 10%, then a $100 cost saving over an i5 would justify it.
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>>51404803
i'm not sure wether or not i'll stick to windows 10, that's why i'm buying 8.1 (i can still upgrade to 10 and later reinstall 8.1 if i don't like it).

wireless card is needed, since i'm moving around a lot (student) and not all places have ethernet. i don't like dongles.

so the soundcard not needed? is the onboard sound enough for a mediocre 5.1 setup?

thanks for your input
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>>51404849
Wait hold on so PC motherboards don't have onboard wifi?
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>>51404882
No?
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>>51404882

Some do, mainly the ITX ones. just buy a cheap dongle rather than a WiFi intergrated mobo desu fsm.
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>>51404838
MSI GT60 (3K/WQHD+)
Gigabyte P34/P35
Aorus X5

That's as much as I know, someone might be able to contribute more

>>51404848
It's more than 10%; I can't pinpoint a percentage, but it would be pretty noticeable.

>>51404849
IMO Windows 10 is a much better thing than 8.1. Yeah maybe you got used with the general stupid design of W8, but W10 brings you back to the days when you still had a Start button. Only reason I'm not upgrading to W10 from W7 is because I can't be bothered yet to reinstall Windows.

What mobo you got there has SupremeFX sound card already integrated, so you don't need another one.

If you need the wireless card, then it's understandable
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>>51405048
heard bad things about msi laptops will check the other 2
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>>51405048
thank you, i'll go without a sound card then.
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>>51404848

>But how badly? If it's about 10%, then a $100 cost saving over an i5 would justify it.

Instead of memes lets have some evidence - at 4k outside of a few games cpu basically does not matter - you are so colossally gpu bound.
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>>51405077
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dgdfgdg
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pppp
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>>51405058
Look also into MSI GS60, 4K IPS

Build quality is superior compared to the other mentioned before
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>>51405089

Not all of these are sli/crossfire but still it paints a cohesive picture.
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>>51405104
>>51405104
WQHD display would be enough, these all cost over 2.5k euros here and putting that much money on laptop, ehh.
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>>51405118
>sli titan x
jesus
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>>51405089
Wow cpu over clocking really does nothing for gaming. I didn't know.
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>>51405118
>SLI Titan X
I need a meme for "I have so much money it's overkill"
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>>51405155
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>>51405155
My friend is considering buying another one. He has one already.

need dat dere 60fps 4k experience I guess
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>>51405147

CPU overclocking helps a lot....at lower resolutions or very cpu bound scenarios.

>>51405155

I came across the video when googling around to prove to /g/ that just because reviewers like to use those monster intel chips they really aren't needed if one is trying to squeeze every shekel for 4k gaming.
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>>51405147
That happens because since times immemorial, GPUs >CPUs, that's why you need to dump most of the budget on graphics cards when you build. Processors are mainly to not bottleneck your build, eg. running SLI/Crossfire but I have an i3
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>>51402966

It's good but don't expect to max out CPU-heavy games, and you'll probably have to upgrade it way sooner than your GPU if you do get a 380x
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>>51405077
That's exactly what I thought when I chose the 8320E.

So is there anything else in my build that needs work? >>51404708
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>>51405301

Looks solid to me. Plenty of ram, a decent mobo for pushing the cpu (the 8320e is a great overclocker) and a suitable cooler.

I'm a sucker for the Define R5 but a case is a case is a case to a point.
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>>51402966
>>51404062
I'd recommend getting a cheap i5 instead, having 4 real cores will go a long way in gaming these days. And most games are console adapted anyway so there are just a few exclusive PC games that need heavy CPU power as a result of that. Its mostly one or dual core, or quad core if you like Frostbite based games.

Last time I checked though the difference between the Pentium series and the i3 series isn't that great when it comes to gaming. So I would rather take a Pentium over the i3.


As for the light image/audio/music editing. Non of those are that demanding and shouldn't be a problem. Unless you work on 4K displays wth 8K image sizes or do hour long audio file editing it shouldn't be a problem. Don't go any lower than 8GB of ram though, 16GB is recommended just in case its every needed.
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http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/QmMdLk

how does this bag of shit look? Im going to hold on to see how much the 380x costs in the UK because the 390 puts me a little over budget and is a bit overkill for my needs anyway. Just not sure if the motherboard/case are okay and whether ill get away with a stock cpu cooler?
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>>51405445
by not sure about the motherboard im saying can i just get something much cheaper, im not really sure what makes a good or bad motherboard.
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>>51405445

>overclocking on a stock cooler

That is why you bought the K chip no? Get a cpu cooler that can actually take it.
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>>51405445
SSD is good if you want only Windows on it, but I don't see anything else to keep games on it. Windows and essential programs will consume about 60 gigs, you got what, 20-30 left. You install Fallout 4, there goes your storage.

Mobo imo could be cheaper, look into Gigabyte
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>>51390956
get an intel 5960x and dual sli nvidia 980ti
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>>51405472
I bought it with overclocking in the future a possibility but i guess youre right, cpu coolers seem cheap so i might as well get one now.

>>51405473
I have another HD that will go in with it so general files will go on that and OS/a couple of programs will go on the SSD.
Theres a Gigabyte one for a bit less but its micro ATX, whats the difference other than less pci slots.. is that the only difference?
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>>51405507
I guess you didn't see my budget post.
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>>51405530
Pretty much, if you don't intend on adding other things requiring PCIe, that would suffice.
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>>51400091
>chinese cheap PSU
Enjoy your house fire, damaged components and random crashes.
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Some price seems like it shot up ylby 50 dollars overnight.
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>>51403862
Vapor-x
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>>51404244
>CX psu
>970 kek card

You fucked up
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Nvidia is leading in research and development, they work directly together with all the leading innovative software firms and implement it in their hardware.

AMD is both lacking behind with their CPUs and GPUs. Especially their CPUs.
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>>51404244
What the fuck do you need so much power for?
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>>51405899
>i5
>970
>so much power

That's a standard mid-range gaming build. "So much power" would be more like a Haswell-E chip with at least a 980ti/fury x
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http://choosemypc.net/build/?budget=1100&oc=false&options=
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>>51405968
No I mean why did you/he buy a 750 watt psu
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>>51391613
C
U
C
K
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>>51406760
Nice meme
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>>51400091
Don't cheap out on the psu, seriously it's the only component that will destroy other hardware if it fails.
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>>51406865
What's the best brand for psu? Or could you even point me towards a specific 500-550 watt psu that's good?
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[PCPartPicker part list](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/3znJK8)

**CPU** | [Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80662i56600k) | €276.94 @ Mindfactory
**CPU Cooler** | [Thermalright HR-02 Rev.A(BW) 73.6 CFM CPU Cooler](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/thermalright-cpu-cooler-hro2revabw) | €48.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Motherboard** | [ASRock Z170 Extreme4+ ATX LGA1151 Motherboard](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z170extreme4) | €167.15 @ Mindfactory
**Memory** | [G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f42666c15d16gvr) | €123.58 @ Mindfactory
**Storage** | [Crucial MX200 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/crucial-internal-hard-drive-ct250mx200ssd1) | €95.23 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Storage** | [Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) | €52.29 @ Mindfactory
**Video Card** | [Palit GeForce GTX 980 4GB Super JetStream Video Card](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/palit-video-card-ne5x980h14g22042j) | €549.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
**Case** | [Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcadefr5bk) | €107.79 @ Mindfactory
**Power Supply** | [Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cp9020090na) |-
**Optical Drive** | [Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-optical-drive-sh224dbbebe) |-
**Monitor** | [BenQ XL2411Z 144Hz 24.0" Monitor](http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/benq-monitor-xl2411z) | €291.72 @ Mindfactory

Total €1713.59

I cant decide between the evga gtx 980, the palit gtx 980 or the sapphire r9 fury tri-x. Any help?
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>>51406923
A 980 is better for 1080p than the Fury as of right now, but I guarantee you that the Fury will age better in the long run.
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Is a 390x overkill for 1080p ultra 60fps on AAA titles?
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>>51406950
What does better mean?
120FPS instead of 110FPS?
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>>51406982
Yes for all except GTA V and Fallout 4.
>>51406988
Better means
>HBM vs GDDR5 bandwidth
>more compute cores
The hardware on the Fury is better, its just the drivers and DX11 implementation that's holding it back. DX12 is a different story, so that the Fury has an inherent advantage over the 980 due to its more powerful chip and higher memory bandwidth.

But DX12 is entirely dependent on the people who make the games, so Maxwell might have some staying power early in DX12's implementation because more of the market already own Maxwell-based cards than GCN. That gives developers more of an incentive to optimize their game around Maxwell's hardware than GCN, at least until Pascal comes out, in which Maxwell will be truly fucked over.
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How shitty is this build, keeping in mind Canadian prices are ridiculous
>http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/q32LGX
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>>51407061
OK.
Is the palit gtx 980 superjetstream better or the evga gtx 980 superclocked acx 2.0?
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>>51407144
Whichever's cheaper. Price is pretty much the only real difference behind video cards these days.
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>>51407075
Yeah man its pretty shit
>xeon
>980 for 1080p
>aoc monitor
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>>51407153
One last question: Should I go for 1440p 60Hz or 1080p 144Hz ?
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>>51407169
Whats wrong with a Xeon? It's literally an i7 with no overclocking. I'm not looking to overclock anyway. The 980 thing is a valid point, but I'm looking for 1080p ultra for the next couple years, and what's wrong with a AOC monitor?
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>>51407075
>http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/q32LGX
>xeon, but no ECC-capable RAM and motherboard
>1080p 60Hz monitor with a 980
>overkill PSU over a more efficient one

>>51407196
FPS and twitch games? 1080p 144Hz, you're not going to be able to enjoy the higher resolution if you're into fast-paced games
Anything else slower paced, 1440p is the way to go.
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>>51407216
thank you for helping me out
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>>51407216
It's not for a server build or anything, I want an i7 but don't have the money, and a xeon is basically an i7 with no overclocking. Plus, the 980 is perfect for 1080p ultra for the next couple years. Do you have a batter suggestion on a PSU? I just went for the cheapest one from a reputable brand
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>>51407208
Aoc is a little ghetto and you won't eat much use out of a 980 if your monitor is 60hz. It is at least ips.
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Please rate/recommend alternatives for kawaii mini build. Just wanna play vidya games 2bh.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpsbj0OoeNo
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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/YJ7BCJ

Looking to use it for gaming and some video editing. Looked online that AMD and Intel processors only make a couple frames difference so I went with the cheaper one.

This is my first build so please be gentle /g/
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Build for €750 max (not including monitor, etc) for 1080p gaming, go
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>>51407397
If you want to do literally any video editing, you at least need a more powerful AMD CPU or any Intel CPU, the APU you have is great for a simple media center or something of the like, but it wont hold up to the kinds of things you want to do, I'd reccomend at least an 8320 or above. Sorta along that point, get a R9 390 over the 970, it has better frame rates in almost every game, as well as an 8gb frame buffer, so it will be much better suited to hardware accelerated video editing/rendering. Besides that, your SSD is a little small, and if that's your only storage, you're going to regret it.
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I have an OLD i5-2310, if I get a new GPU say as GTX960 will my gramps CPU bottleneck it?
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>>51407404
It's 10 € over, but it's an amazing build for 1080p gaming
>http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hVcrK8
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>>51407463

Not this guy but on that note, what specs from a CPU tell you that said CPU is going to bottleneck a graphics card?
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Am I the only one here who's got the Fury X instead of stupud gtx 980ti? I mean in 1080 the gtx is better but fury shines in 4k
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>>51407513

Yeah but 760 bongs is almost 1100 yuros man.
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>>51407524
This
Someone smart enough please answer
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>>51407290
lads?
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>>51407441
Thanks for the tips, anon
Any requirements on the motherboard or is a cheap one ok?
As for the SSD I'm getting a 1TB HDD with it for storage so no issue there
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>>51407524
>>51407577
No decent CPU from the last 6-7 years will bottleneck a new graphics card. Jay from JayzTwoCents did a pretty good video on the subject imo
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAgpvWc4VBM
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>>51407608
Thanks, I'll spend what I would have on a CPU and mobo on hookers and blow
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>>51407585
Yeah, a cheap one is alright, I'd personally recommend a good motherboard, as it's kinda the base of your system, but you should be okay, just make sure the mobo you're getting has a PCI-E slot, whether it's gen 2 or gen 3 doesn't really matter though
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>>51407629
Good man
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>>51407608

>unigine valley
>testing for cpu bottlenecks
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>>51407738
He uses BF4 as a later example, thats the only time the bottleneck really appears
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Anyone got mirrors to the windows 10 debloat pastebin? It had a copy of windows 10 enterprise too. The original link is dead.
Related http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2A5hcNau
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>>51407631
just one question on the r9 390
Cuz my current setup basically uses HDMI so do I have to get new cables or am I retarded
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is the asus h81m plus a good mobo?

will it let me use both an ssd and a hdd?
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>>51407977
As long as you only have 1 monitor connected with HDMI you'll be fine, otherwise you'll have to use displayport
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Hey guys, I need a replacement shitposting machine, since I've never built a computer before I just threw together random parts with my extreme low budget in mind.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/THR8GX

I'd want to upgrade certain things in the future when I'm less poor.
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What should I update first for better PC
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>>51408084

Define "in the future". Running without a dedicated gpu on an intel chip is doable but beyond shit-tier for anything graphical. For that look into AMD's apus - they absolutely slaughter intel's integrated graphics to offer a more balanced setup.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9307/the-kaveri-refresh-godavari-review-testing-amds-a10-7870k/5

>>51408164

Gpu -> ram -> cpu in that order.
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>>51408191
not my motherboard?
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>>51408200
>>51408191
Sorry troubling you, what GPU would you recommend? I was thinking of GTX970
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>>51408164
For general usage, SSD then RAM.
For games, GPU then RAM, and overclock the CPU.
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>>51408218

Well you'll be needing a new mobo anyway for a newer cpu.

As for gpu? Eh I prefer the 390 myself but it all depends on what resolution you are intending to play at, if you want ultra settings, 60fps minimum etc etc.
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>>51408191
Alright thanks, I'll add a cheap GPU then.
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>>51407290
so this is perfect in every way? cool.
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>>51408271
GTX970 wont work with my motherboard?
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Does it matter if my GPU is from ASUS, MSI or Gigabyte

or is it just pure branding shit
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>>51408292

It will.

Also: don't worry about pcie scaling, much, much faster cards than a 970 see marginal drops. What I would be more concerned about is having a psu upto the task.

>>51408354

Mostly each company slaps their own cooler on the same base pcb and fucks with clocks.
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Im a eurofag looking to complete his build this year while probably moving to the US next year. Do any of you know how this works with the power supply?
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>>51406793
nice meme saying nice meme kek
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>>51408354

some brands are sliiiightly better than others. Nothing significant though, so don't worry too much about it. Just make sure the brand you're buying isn't famous for making nuclear reactors or some shit

>>51408414

Get one that has enough watts for your combined CPU, GPU and everything and then some more.
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Good 1080p monitor for €200 max?
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How does this look
www.pccomponentes.com/pccly/9eB57291

I wasn't going to get a HDD because I already have a spare one that I could use but since 1TB is cheap as fuck I might consider it.

Also should I wait for the 380X? Is it going to really be worth the extra 50 or so bucks?
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>>51408725

Also I was looking at the prebuilts they make (they come without OS so it's not like they have five tons of bloatware) and I wonder who the fuck buys this
http://www.pccomponentes.com/pccom_battlebox_nvidia_i7_5930k_64gb_12tb_ssd480_3xtitanx.html
>three Titan Xs

Kinda overkill
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I'm thinking about buying a new cooler for my cpu since the one that came with it is really loud. I have an AMD Phenom II X4 970, my case is an Antec P182 SE.
The Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO should do the trick, but I also heard good things about the be quiet! pure rock, but it seems heavier and not as good at cooling?
Also, most of the pictures I'm seeing have the fan mounted on the front side, right on top of the ram. Can I just mount it on the rear side instead if there's no space?
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>>51408725

>2gb 960

See pic.

>>51408886

Those single tower 120mm coolers are basically all the same shit - the fan itself tends to be the deciding factor as they are al lrated to handle around 150w which is way beyond nearly every intel cpu in existence and above what an 8350 needs.

>Can I just mount it on the rear side instead if there's no space?

You can, but its retarded 9 times out of 10 as most cases are setup to have air flow from front to back. Putting the fan on the rear (as it were) means you've got it trying to suck in air the rear case fan is trying to exhaust. Even if you put the case fan to intake you might trap the hot air in the case as there tends to be a fairly large gap from front of case to the ram slots in most cases.
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I looked for those laptops posted here, resolutions higher than FHD.

All so damn expensive
.
There are no good WQHD laptops from lower range of 1k euros?
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>>51408843
>three Titan Xs

someone who wants to play with 3 4k monitors at 120 fps

or someone who doesn't want to upgrade his 1080p60fps rig for the next 10 years
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>>51408972

Considering I come from a laptop with a 1GB 7670M, even a 2gb 960 will be a massive upgrade

Are modern games really that hungry for VRAM? I was stuck playing pre 2013 stuff on my toastertop so I don't know
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>>51409092
One Titan can't evne get 60fps in TW2 at WQHD.

doubt three could get 120 at 3x4k screens
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>>51409151

Given 2gb is actively hurting cards in the latest and greatest titles (especially if you overclock the gpu) a 2gb card is a bit silly. The 4gb 960 isn't much better wither due to other reasons when the 4gb 380 exists.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1888-evga-supersc-4gb-960-benchmark-vs-2gb

These guys should redo the test with a 380, but still it gives a rough guideline.
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>>51409211

once things like 4K become mainstream and 1080p becomes tiny and obsolete, will we stop calling 1080p "full HD"?
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>>51409282
I just use the term because people understand what I mean. Hopefully.
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>>51408972
Okay, thanks. I'll see if it will fit on top of the ram then.
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>>51409515

Unless your ram is a viable target for al-qaeda it will fit - most coolers don't hang far enough out to mess with the first (or even second) ram slot. Those that do are those huge twin-tower coolers like the noctua D15, cryorig R1 ultimate, silver arrow SB-E etc etc.
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>>51409151
You will most likely experience stuttering with HD texture games as well as performance drops when you enter new areas/rooms.

The R9 380 and GTX 960 are in a odd position though, they are powerfull enough to get bottlenecked by 2GB of vram but can't really take full use of 4GB.
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>>51391501
Asrock is not trash
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>>51404244
expect loud coil whine from 970
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>>51404384
"makes it easier" do you need to stop for a few breaths between changing parts? do you work up a bit of sweat changing a graphics card anon? a bit too much exertion? In future maybe just do one cable at a time with rests and rehydration between you fat ass.
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Dumb question incoming: can laptop RAM be used on a desktop? I know the sticks are different sizes but is there like an adapter or some shit?

Or would using sticks of different sizes and speeds (like 4gb 1600 and 3 gb 1300) cause trouble?
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>>51410578
No, it will not work.

Different sizes should not matter and speed, well, the slowest decides the speed of all the sticks.
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>>51410710

This is the part where some anon starts herping and derping about single vs dual channel ram.

This is the part where I lay some knowledge down before the previous event happens in some sort of educational paradox.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1349-ram-how-dual-channel-works-vs-single-channel
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>>51410852
Epic
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>>51393274
>Daz
>enjoy your malware
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>>51412613
>memeing
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>>51409649

asrock more like trashrock jej
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Get i5 on 1150 socket, don't go for 14nm crap though, they have only 6mb l2 cache. Buy a motherboard with dual channel for ram ddr3 and plenty of usb3. You need just 1 graphics card sot, the rest should be pcis. Get antec300 case with some akasa coolers. 750 watt corsair PSU. Graphics card should be at feast ati290. Throw some solid state drive. Re.ember that you will never crossfire over clock or water cool because otherwise you would not be posting this question
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Fuck my shit up /g/
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jcsrK8
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Mostly LogicalIncrements parts, can't go much higher on the budget. 1080p gaming, doesn't need to be super high settings, just enough to play modern games pretty well.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/FTk3P6
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I'm planning for the future, what's a good graphics card that will hold dual monitors at 1080p + gaming for the next 4 years?
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>>51414420
looks fine, personally I'd get a cheaper case and CPU cooler and put the money into getting a 980
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>>51414686
nothing looks wrong and a 380+4170 should be enough for 1080p on most games at medium-high settings, but 2gb of ram will be limiting at higher res/modding
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>>51414780
the card i picked is 4GB, unless i'm retarted
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>>51390956
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/gxzMsY

My friend made this build for me. I know shit about computers. Criticisms/suggestions?
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>>51414797
ah, so it is. I just assumed it was 2gb
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>>51414827
Actually really solid build... Just way more much wattage than you need.

You have a good friend anon
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>>51414932
Awesome, thanks for the answer. Also, I might upgrade within a year or two depending on how my financial situation looks, is the PSU enough or should i go smaller, like 500w and upgrade that with everything else?
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