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>>51361726
fuck anime
:^)
Can someone tell me what category (bassy, v-shaped, neutral, etc) pic related is in? It's the one I currently have and I want to use it as a reference when I want looking for new headphone or earplug.
How does a TurtleBeach® Earforce® PX22™ compare to the usual /g/ approved headphones? (I got it as a gift from a gaymer friend.)
>there are people on this board who pay hundreds for headphones that sound only marginally better than 7506s.
MDR-7506 is the absolute best value for money in full-size headphones.
The rate of diminishing returns peaks at MDR-7506 and flattens out immediately afterward.
>>51384441
>>51384441
soundmagic e10
>>51384466
Nah, there's stuff like SR-850 that rapes it value-for-money wise.
>>51384491
aren't those a cheap clone of AKG k240?
>>51384501
It's a rebranded HD681 which is modeled after the K240, but they sound different, the HD681/SR-850 is brighter and more neutral, might be too bright for some, but the sound is very even from bass to treble, more even than MDR-V6/MDR-7506. And it has velour pads, also $35.
What would be the best headphones to get on a 20-30ish bucks budget?
Looking for something cheap and my main focus is lasting, I've been using Sony MDRZX100 and they've lasted me for like 3 years.
I'm mainly gonna use them on my regular desktop, i've had a lot of somewhat cheap, then somewhat expensive headphones but they always end up with one side not working at all.
I don't care about anything else but that it's between or below that price range and that it's somewhat lasting, on top of having a non complete shit quality.
Thanks in advance
>>51384522
I read somewhere that the HD681 sounded like a PS1000 or HD800. Is that true? Or does the Takstar HI2050 sound more like a DT880/HD800? I also saw that other post saying the HD668B is a DT990.
Anyone here listen to HBR1.com?
>>51384563
Haven't heard the PS1000, but HD800 and HD681 sound drastically different. The HD681 is more neutral and has a more accurate upper midrange, the HD681 is brighter however whereas the HD800 has a peak at 6kHz.
HI2050 doesn't sound like DT880 despite having a similar look, it's a bit bass focused and treble focuses but not as bright as the DT880.
>>51384559
Do you mind open headphones?
>>51384632
I don't mind
Best IEM for around 150 kangaroos?
>>51384717
SE215 at Minidisc. Exactly $149 right now.
>>51384747
>>51384717
Don't listen to this nerd, ATH-IM70 destroys the SE215 in sound quality and is $129 at headphones.com.au
>>51384407
>>51384466
KANSHA!
>>51384617
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
>>51384717
FAD Heaven II from addictedtoaudio
Best in ears in europe for about 200€?
>>51384765
Not him but I'm considering getting the IM50s. Is it worth spending the extra amount for the 70s or is just getting the 50s good enough?
>>51384717
Etymotic Research HF5.
>>51384979
they cost $220 aussie everywhere
>>51384861
IM50 and IM70 is just like m50x to m70x.
>>51385001
Fuck I thought it'd be the same price as the SE215 as they were the two rivals with high isolation at the 100 USD price point.
Ridin' round Texas in a Lexus with a Florida license plate
>>51384773
Feel free to prove me wrong instead of claiming that I have no idea what I'm talking about.
>>51385128
>implying the HD800 is not bright
>actually implying the HI2050 is not as bright as the DT880 when it's about as bright as the DT990
it's like you don't know what bright even means
>>51385168
I never implied that. Your comprehension is that of a grade schooler. Also the HD800 has the controversial 6kHz peak that I mentioned.
Got measurements of the HI2050? Because I heard it as having more bass and less treble than the DT880 with side by side listening. I got a good seal too.
>>51385208
>Also the HD800 has the controversial 6kHz peak that I mentioned.
yes, that doesn't make it not bright. consider learning english before expecting others to follow your retarded thought process.
>>51384365
Are ATH ANC9 any good? I want some serious isolation and I mostly listen to ASMR and new age/ambient /chillout music. I'm kind of a basshead, too, I love my m50.
Thinking of grabbing some hd 800's and a wa7 to drive them
>>51385230
I never implied that it wasn't bright.
Jesus, you're so fucking salty whenever someone mentions your precious DT880.
I'm considering purchasing the dt990 250 pro's, I'd mainly be using them with a dac but I'd like to use them with my phone as well. does anyone know a good portable amp
>>51385276
what are your previous headphones/earphones?
>>51385281
why are you bringing up the DT880?
>the HD681 is --brighter-- however """""""""""""""""""""""""whereas""""""""""""""""""""""""" the HD800 has a peak at 6kHz.
stay in school, kid
>>51385276
>woo audio
>>51385296
Because everyone knows who you are you stupid fucking Beyer shill.
You literally lack experience in trying out headphones. Nobody takes you seriously.
>>51385341
>says the kid
>>51385351
Pic and timestamp of headphone collection to disprove that you're the beyershill.
>>51385364
pic and timestamp of headphone collection to disprove that you're the beyershill
Is there anything better for under $400?
>>51385392
Sadly no.
Those 20 year old bad boys have yet to be dethroned at their price point.
>>51385286
>what are your previous headphones/earphones?
I currently use the ATH-AD900x when I'm at home. Absolutely love the airy highs, and the comfort is phenomenal so the HD 800 just seems like a natural progression for me.
For IEMs I use the SE215k (mainly for isolation for commuting on the train)
>>51385321
Any other suggestions? I am very open to the idea of getting a solid state amp, mainly because I live in Australia and it's way too fucking hot already. Considered the mayflower O2 dac/amp combo but I'm sceptical that it would be able to drive the HD 800s
>>51385392
I'd take entry stax over it personally.
>>51385392
DT880, no veil too
>>51385584
No veil, instead you get recessed upper midrange and inaccurate peaky high frequencies.
Beyerdynamic's only good headphones are DT150 and DT250.
>>51385584
HD600 does not have veil. They're both different. DT880 was made 35 years ago and behaves like a electrostatic with no mids. The best under $400 is a electrostatic.
>>51385639
>HD600 does not have veil
yes, it does
>>51385639
>it's old therefor it's bad
lmao
hd600 started in the early 90s, dt880 in the late 80s, literally no difference
i dont get it, the beyerdynamic headphones were always a good pick around here until some dipshit showed up and talks shit about them constantly. where did this guy come from?
>>51385684
sennheiser hired them out
>>51385639
>The best is an electrostatic.
Isn't it always.
>>51385639
which elecrostat are you speaking of kind sir?
>>51385684
Some dude got sennheisers and the veil got him going, cognitive dissonance all over the place.
>>51385696
any used stax or koss headphone set
>>51385639
The notion that the DT880 has no mids (particularly the upper midrange where they do have a little dip) is about as valid a claim as the hd600 being too elevated in the lower mids
>>51385719
DT880 is basically a carbon copy of the HD800 FR wise, and nobody will say a word about them lacking mids, shit's pretty kek to be honest, family
>>51385736
well technically it's the other way round since Sennheiser clearly realized it was a step up from their lesser offerings
Personally I prefer the Beyerdynamics as opposed to the Sennheisers because while the Sennheisers have great quality sound it's so neutral that it doesn't impress as much as the Bryerdynamics. Not knocking Sennheisers because I think they're really good, I just think that for most of the large influx of HiFi consumers the Beyerdynamics will be more what they're looking for because their signature is flashier and more 'fun.'
>>51385392
Fidelio x2
>>51385761
oh man this guys back already
i think beyers are better but this guys gotta have autism for real or something
gonna buy a Sennheiser CX-300 II but im voncerned because people complain about poor build quality
alternative options?
>>51385639
Nah, the HD600 destroys everything under $400 even used STAX.
It's the most neutral solution.
>>51385802
vsonic vsd3 is gud but has even much more worse build quality
>>51385812
JBL Everest 700 Elite are $299 and destroy the HD600, get out with your objectively colored trash
>>51385831
Prove it with diffuse field equalized measurements.
>>51385872
I don't need to, they're self-calibrating
Just kill yourself with your colored veiled trash Sennheiser shill
Just to set the record straight.
>>51385884
>self calibrating to unknown parameters
HD600 is still better than your low fidelity DT880 trash, kid.
>>51385903
Nobody mentioned the DT880 you retarded shill. Give up on trying to push your colored garbage as 'neutral'
Holy shit Sennshills are not only severely retarded but just unbearable
>>51385920
HD600 is still the most accurate full-sized headphone in production. It's funny how you continue to deny this.
Everyone knows you're the butthurt DT880 shill by your posting style.
You're here 24/7 shitposting, get a job and lose your virginity, kid.
>>51385945
>ad hominem
>changing of goalposts
Another $0.81 deposited, Rajeev
Everest 700 Elite > Veiled shit
>>51385956
>Everest 700 Elite > Veiled shit
Prove it with measurements you fucking permavirgin.
>>51385945
Most veiled headphone in production *
>>51385969
It's calibrated to your ears, dumbass.
Unlike the shitty HD600 which not only have $20 chink-tier driver matching, you're basing the HD600's fidelity purely on measurements of a -specific- model on a dummy head which is 100% guaranteed to have a different earshape to you.
Just give it up already, shill
>>51385990
Calibrated to what?
I'm not shilling, just posting the facts.
There is still no full-sized headphone in production that is more neutral.
Feel free to tell me one that more neutral with reliable data to back it up and I'll buy it right now and post a screenshot of my order as proof.
>>51386018
There is still no full-sized headphone in production that is more veiled*
>>51386018
Show me right now evidence that the HD600 you have right now, or the ones I would potentially buy right now are the most neutral full-sized headphone
Show me the frequency response of them on MY ears, show me that the driver matching is impeccable
Oh wait, you can't? Fuck off Rajeev
>Headphones are tuned on a finely calibrated, standardized fixture to meet our target sound profile – but our heads are not finely tuned, calibrated fixtures so the sound we actually hear is different from the designed curve due to variations in how the headphones fit on each of us, meaning most people do not hear the target sound of the headphone. Harman's TruNote auto calibration technology is a patented algorithm that calibrates the sound of the headphone to each individual by measuring the unique fit of the headphone to the user. The system automatically adjusts the sound of the headphone, creating a personalized equalization that restores the sound of headphone to the design target. The headphone sound is automatically personalized to each individual ensuring that they hear JBL sound as we engineered it to sound for better audio.
>JBL Sound
Into the trash it goes.
>>51386025
>>51386027
>posting with phone and PC
kek
>>51386042
>>51386042
>he's so butthurt that he thinks people are samefagging by using both a phone and computer at once
Literally assblasted
>>51386048
No shit, phone and PC are two different devices you kissless permavirgin 24/7 shitposter.
>>51386060
>can't check for samefag
So you're a shill AND a newfag?
>>51386067
>can't check for samefag
And you're here 24/7 shitposting?
>>51386083
You've been told to fuck off numerous times now shillposter/shitposter, why won't you just go back to r/headphones already
I can guarantee you'll have a better time selling your shitty veil simulators there
>>51386096
By you alone?
Stop pretending to be multiple posters.
I see you still haven't posting something more neutral than the HD600 that's full-sized and in production, looks like I won't be buying a headphone today ;_;
>>51386119
Stop pretending to be multiple posters
Lmao
>>51386119
Posted the JBL Everest 700 Elite numerous times now, keep hanging on to that samefag call there you adorable little newfag
Give me a call when the HD600 have acceptable channel matching and aren't colored shit, maybe I'll buy you your first beer
>>51386132
Fuck off wat.
>>51386133
But you have no proof that it's more neutral on a dummy head which simulates a human head but not a specific human's human head.
The HD600 is more neutral by default unless the the JBL is proven to be more neutral.
>>51386158
Lol yeah it's me, that other guy isn't me tho
>>51386158
>But you have no proof that it's more neutral on a dummy head which simulates a human head but not a specific human's human head.
>THE ABSOLUTE STATE OF THIS BACKPEDALLING AND CHANGING OF GOALPOSTS
The HD600 is not neutral at all and you can't prove anything with measurements of a single pair of HD600s when the JBLs calibrate to ANY situation to correct the frequency response.
Considering the fact that you're a retard(sennheiser shill) it's pretty clear you understand nothing about how EQ/calibration work
First for tomoko a qt
>>51386185
The iPhone and animals gave it away.
>>51386186
Again, the HD600 is the most neutral or closest to neutral to the diffuse field target curve of any full sized headphone in production today. Have a look at all the various measurements.
The JBL has to calibrate based on a specific target curve and parameters that are unknown.
Are you really this simple minded?
>>51386225
No, the specific models that were measured had those frequency responses. Considering how absolute garbage channel matching the HD600 have, you literally cannot guarantee any two models will sound the same (Almost guaranteed they won't)
Basically you have zero evidence of them being the 'closest' to neutral while there is evidence that every Everest 700 will sound the same to everybody. Not to mention how much the response of the HD600 will change just from how they sit on your head.
>>51386245
>No, the specific models that were measured had those frequency responses. Considering how absolute garbage channel matching the HD600 have, you literally cannot guarantee any two models will sound the same (Almost guaranteed they won't)
Your precious DT880 suffers from this too. But you like to cherry pick measurements to suit your arguments, the HD600 has acceptable channel matching, it's not top tier like AKG K702 but it's good.
>Basically you have zero evidence of them being the 'closest' to neutral while there is evidence that every Everest 700 will sound the same to everybody. Not to mention how much the response of the HD600 will change just from how they sit on your head.
But that doesn't make the JBL neutral, consistency and accuracy are two different things.
>>51386264
Who the fuck said anything about the DT880, again? Holy fuck you're so desperate LOL
HD600 channel matching is worse than garbage you faggot shill, don't even try to deny that.
>But that doesn't make the JBL neutral, consistency and accuracy are two different things.
>My JBL Headphones App: Get even more control and personalization of your listening experience with this free App. Through your mobile device, you can create custom EQ settings, and access all other headphone settings and features.
It sounds however the fuck you want it to sound you absolute retard
>>51386275
Everyone knows you're the butthurt DT880 shill.
>HD600 channel matching is worse than garbage you faggot shill, don't even try to deny that.
HD600 channel matching is shit to you because of one graph that makes it look bad.
>It sounds however the fuck you want it to sound you absolute retard
You can EQ any headphone with a parametric EQ. This is a moot point.
>>51386299
>Everyone knows you're the butthurt DT880 shill.
No it seems you're the only retard under that impression
>HD600 channel matching is shit to you because of one graph that makes it look bad.
Just like you base all your claims of their neutrality on a few graphs LOL
>You can EQ any headphone with a parametric EQ. This is a moot point.
It's funny because I can say with 100% certainty that you wouldn't know your way around even the most basic EQ for your shitheisers, especially considering the fact that you don't have a measurement for your specific model. Another fantastic backpedal there.
>>51386307
Pic and timestamp of headphone collection.
Also there's tons of graphs proving the HD600's accuracy.
I know how to use sinegen and APO, but the HD600 is listenable in stock form unlike trash like the DT880 which need to boost the recessed mids and reduce the nasty peaky treble.
Why is hpg full of so many frustrated, autistic, neck-bearded virgins /g/?
>>51386332
I'm starting to really believe you're the HD600 shill who literally gets BTFO'd every single thread and STILL posts his bullshit.
Like you've already made it clear you know nothing about headphones or EQ for that matter.
>sinegen
>actually thinking your hearing is accurate enough for a proper EQ
Adorable, again.
How can I make my headphones not crush on my jaw (under the ears) so much? Had them for like 2 days but I can't wear them longer than 30 mins without the burning sensation.
>>51386359
bend the headband?
Friendly reminder that the JBL Everest 700 Elite (Or AKG N90Q if you really want to pay that premium for some shiny gold) are objectively the most accurate full-sized headphones in production
>>51386345
>changing your punctuation habits
Sinegen is useful for peaks and dips outside the upper midrange area. You can easily hear common flaws like MDR-V6's 200Hz dip with it.
You are the one that knows nothing when you got BTFO'd yesterday for claiming the ER-4S wasn't neutral.
You try to sound knowledgeable about discussions but you don't know the basics of how our ears work and target curves.
>>51384701
Not the guy who asked the question but get the Takstar HI2050. Amazing comfort, build quality, and sound for only 35 dollars. You can pick them up on aliexpress for that price.
>>51386380
>>51386380
>Sinegen is useful for peaks and dips outside the upper midrange area
It's not useful for making the HD600 non-colored
>you got BTFO'd yesterday for claiming the ER-4S wasn't neutral.
What?
>>51386380
>You try to sound knowledgeable about discussions but you don't know the basics of how our ears work and target curves.
Apparently you don't either since you keep trying to push the idea that the HD600 are neutral
>>51386372
Prove it and I'll buy it right away and post a screenshot of my order info. I'll even put it raw and leave my name.
>>51386397
TruNote technology
>>51386380
>changing your punctuation habits
Lol I missed this last post but holy fuck you're autistic, get some sun kid
>>51386387
Your claim was 'the most basic EQ for your shithiesers', why are you implying that it was going to make it dead-neutral? Are you that mentally retarded?
Sinegen is a useful tool when EQing especially with a listener that knows how to listen.
I'm not pushing that HD600 is neutral, but it is the most neutral full-sized headphone in production, there's non-production headphones that are more neutral, there's the ER-4S/B, etc.
>>51386401
Nice proof you got there, faggot.
>>51386380
>>51386345
Post what equipment you own with a timestamp so we can see who is making bias claims after reading a frequency response graph. If you don't post, it's probably safe to assume that you are making bias claims without actually listening to the headphones yourself - I mean you have time to shitpost on hpg all day
>>51386436
The Everest 700 Elite are calibrated and therefore are more accurate than the HD600 could ever be
>Nice proof you got there, faggot.
How about you prove YOUR pair of HD600s are the most neutral in production
>>51386449
>it's calibrated to unknown parameters therefore it must be neutral
kek, you sure are delusional.
>>51386445
Pretty sure it's been established that the HD600 shill does not own HD600s nor any of the headphones he shit talks or brings up to fuel some sort of brand rivalry (DT880, X2, K7XX)
What /hpg/ think about momentum 2.0?
Nobody wins unless they post their own photos of their own headphones. But IMO this brand rivalry thing is funny to watch. I like seeing new posts pop up every minute. *eats popcorn*
>>51386473
Overpriced, get 1.0.
>>51386473
Been asking about them too. Bad isolation is what I've heard.
>>51386473
Overpriced
Form over function
Overpriced
Looks nice
>>51386504
it would be really awesome if everyone had a place to go locally where they could hear them all
>>51386506
It's sold at the same price in my place.
>>51386519
Shillheiser isn't a meme m8. I want to know the sound signature. Especially it always really overpriced in my place.
>>51386560
wher are you from
>>51386567
Shithole in SEA
>>51386608
Be glad you weren't born in Africa or some shit. At least you have the luxury to own high-end headphones.
Heard of Jaben?
>>51386621
There are many audio store in my place. But all of it located in capital city. Jaben is one of them. Many of its product are overpriced because of beaucrats. HD600 nearly priced $500 in my place
>>51386675
Just visit them and try out the headphones, then buy it somewhere else. They are quite persistent so prepare an excuse beforehand when they try to sell you shit.
>>51385421
HD800 is not hard to drive, O2 is more than enough. "hd800 is very amp-picky" meme is just audiofools that try to reduce brightness and don't know how to use digital eq
All you fucking faggots sperging over the most neutral full sized headphone in production could at least provide some measurements of them. Everyone knows how HD 600 measures but that JBL seems interesting if the technology works. I want to see it in action, measured.
>>51385421
I use HD 800s with ODAC+O2 and with 1x gain. It gets uncomfortably loud and O2 is an excellent amp. You'll be fine.
>>51385421
Unless you have literally infinite money, don't spend more than $200 on an amp/dac. Even the HD 800s. People like to talk about pairings, but value wise,a $10k amp isn't going to make you weap at it's beauty.
>>51386675
Internet order everything.
>>51386876
It's more fun to build amps anyway.
>>51386473
its on sale at amazon right now if you still want it
$250
>>51384365
Hey /hpg/, I'm looking for something a bit specific. I have ATH AD900X and love them for 99% of use cases, however I'd also like a pair of headphones that can be used to properly listen to and play bass guitar. So, basically headphones that can go all the way down to a low B string and portray it properly, that's 31Hz. The 900x, being bass light, are less than ideal. I'd just plug them into my audio interface, it delivers clean audio (a really high quality DAC) but doesn't have an amazing amp in it (my audio technica sound totally fine but they're also easy to drive).
So, extremely good and accurate bass response all the way down to 30Hz, otherwise as flat and analytical as possible, relatively easy to drive, open or closed doesn't matter (but I suppose closed will be better for the bass response), budget maybe around 200 bucks, if you can convince me that I need to spend more it can easily stretch to 500, after that it would start to hurt a little.
Thanks in advance.
>>51387331
dt770 80ohm
>>51387331
MDR 7506
Something something pros in the industry use it
>>51387439
>rolled off bass
inb4 measurements don't reflect how bassy they are meme
>>51387407
>>51387439
PJB H-850 seem to be exactly made for bass players, I k ow their amps but I didn't even know that they made headphones. Hmm, the DT 770 also have great reviews, can anyone comment on the accuracy in the very low frequencies?
>>51387331
HE400i
>>51387407
>>51387439
Good job recommending headphones with colored bass when he asked for the exact opposite.
>>51387512
Ouch, that is pretty close to my limit in terms of price honestly. So you'd not recommend the Sony or Beyerdynamic that the other 2 posted?
>>51387539
No, they're both colored in the bass and closed, but you obviously don't mind them being closed anyway so check out Mad Dog instead.
>>51387539
ignore the shitposting 'audiophile'
the sony and beyer are both extensively used by professionals in studios and in music recording, they're basically staples
>>51387570
The only thing I really care about is the proper portrayal of the low B and the rest of the bass spectrum. 30Hz is hard to achieve, even for some big cabinets, but as long as that sounds fine and the rest sounds relatively neutral I think I'd be happy with it.
>>51387539
Guy has a point but you need headphones with bass extension low enough to play the lowest notes and preferably without much coloration. I don't know what the lowest note is but the recommended HE-400i achieves that better than the others mentioned as its response is basically flat. While that is preferred, you'd probably do just fine with something else too. The MDR-7056 does have quite significant roll off in the bass so that might not be a good option. Beyer has extension but also coloration. It's a better option out of the two. DT880 might be good too. It rolls off but not by a huge amount.
>>51387947
The lowest note would be an open B string in my case, 31Hz. I'm not talking about pure rumble that is barely audible, this is still in the realms of actual tone. If the 770 pro can deal with that and sound mostly accurate across the board I guess that would be fine. The Hifiman is literally 3x the cost, I think I can deal with a bit of coloration as long as it can actually portray the sound properly and doesn't just fart out below 40Hz. I'm not doing any high-end audio produciton, this is still mostly a hobby for me.
Also, I assume my audio interface (Roland Duo Capture Ex) shouldn't have any real issue driving the 80Ohm version? Seriously, this stuff needs to be standardized at some point, this is super confusing for people who have little experience with these types of things.
>>51387331
Tascam TH-02
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/TeacCTH02.pdf
Keep in mind that it used to be $15 a month ago I guess. It sounds worse than $100 headphones but it does the job.
>>51388031
Thanks for the tip, but anything <200 bucks is totally within budget. There's no need to go extra cheap.
1) Fidelio X2 from mobo : around 280 €
2) Starlux HD 681 EVO + external/dedicated sound card : around 80 €
Choose one.
>>51387331
Fidelio X2 grants the best bass for around 280 € and it's super easy to drive and it's open.
>>51388030
Yes it can drive those well.
>>51388043
Tascam TH-02's still sound good. Only problem is that it's very uncomfy. If you have flat ears it's a must buy. I don't know what else headphones extend all the way low. This was my post last month https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/thread/S50943648#p50944800
I did it. I have my end-game headphone after years of searching. this will be the longest wait ever but I need to get a new amp soon. I'm sure my schiit magni can't power this
>>51388030
>shouldn't have any real issue driving
>this stuff needs to be standardized at some point
Power and impedance stuff was an IEC standard (IEC 60268-7), and was later abandoned for a good reason.
Basically, almost all old headphone outputs were modified speaker amp outputs, and the easiest and laziest way to do this is to stick a big fat resistor in between the output and the headphone. The lazy way made it into the IEC standard, but we have real headphone circuits now. Also why Beyer recommends 600 ohm headphones for serious work: it is least affected by lazy impedance decisions.
I think they still do something like that with a lot of cheap interfaces, but the resistor values aren't as large and the outputs are much weaker than speaker amps.
>>51388147
>have my end-game
>but I need to get a new
Anon, I have bad news for you.
>>51388097
Alright, it's on the list with the DT 770 pro for now. Is it balanced/neutral or does it follow a particular sound signature? As I said, accurate portrayal is more important that just subjective "good" sound in this case. Also, 30Hz. That's how deep it needs to go. Excellent mid-bass doesn't work for me if it craps out below 40Hz.
>>51388147
It depends on how loud you listen to everything. Are you a loud listener like above 110db? Because you would have to turn the volume control all the way maxed. O2 has a lower noise floor if you know what I mean. Your Magni or a new O2 should be sufficient unless you believe in head-fi tier expensive amps.
http://www.audiobot9000.com/match/sennheiser/hd-800/with/schiit/magni
>>51388155
I'm aware, but speakers work so nice and easy at 4-16 Ohm, and that's it. Easy serial and parallel connections of similar impedances. It's still really confusing for beginners why headphones range from 16-600+ Ohm, even if it doesn't make a huge difference nowadays.
I own Sennheiser 300 CX or something. Cost about 40 euros 3-4 years ago.
They don't fucking break.
I have had them ripped out of my ears when the wire got tangled to barbell/dumbell, the wire has gotten stuck to zippers of my hoodies multiple times. I have walked over them accidentally, my friend's cat has chewn on them etc.
My point is they fucking last.
Are there any in ear headphones of slightly higher audio quality in the 100-120 price range that can handle being raped?
>>51388167
It's not neutral, but it's balanced. Its colour has a slight V-shape, but the mids aren't recessed (at least for me). X2 is great for any bass frequence, really.
>>51388202
2 ohm is getting around housefire tier, but it's quicker to talk about the speaker's current draw than a full explanation of voltage division and basic electrical theory for someone who just wanted something nice. I do agree with that.
>>51388237
ATH-IM line. Excellent build.
>>51388281
>ATH-IM line.
How is the sound quality in them in comparison to Sennheiser CXs in general? Mine Sennheiser sound.. full? except for the bass which is little bit lost/isn't as relevant in their sound.
>>51388301
If I remember right, pretty much every Sennheiser in-ear was very bass heavy.
IM50 and 70 are most similar sounding to the CX, but I think it will be a bit less bass and an improved mid and highs.
>>51388331
>Every in-ear SH is bass heavy.
Wow, I would say the opposite after using Sennheiser in-ears exclusively for years - lol
They must not have lot of bass if they have less than Sennheisers then. I don't have nothing but my personal experience to offer but they aren't really bass heavy.
Thanks anyway, I'll check them in the shop next time I go there and probably buy them.
>23th
>>51388971
unreal...that he-400i price is insane
poorfag atm, old headphones died, found some Sennheiser HD 201 for 20% off
yes/no ?
>>51389084
no
>>51388971
That upsets me. I own a HE-400i with the normal connectors that's so unfair I hate Hifiman! I'm not interested in the HE-560 because that's HD800 prices.
I hope nobody here gets a HE-400i. I paid full retail for mine and that is so unfair. Do not get HE-400i it has bad build quality. If you want it. Buy it. But after a month you'll notice the build quality. It doesn't feel quality made. Get a HD600 or whatever.
>>51389084
Tascam TH-02 with HM5 pads or KSC75 with Partsexpress headband will sound better than that.
>>51389220
>get a HD 600 to feel the build quality
Cheap brittle plastic is the new build quality.
>>51389220
I never had any issues with my He-400i. the only noticeable thing for me is the scratches on the headphone adjustment thing. I don't care about the connectors, it only got loose on me like once after hundreds of hours of use
>>51389669
How much did you pay for yours? And are you also jealous?
>>51389677
I didn't pay full price and it was $340 from a headfi user in "excellent" condition. I'm not really jealous since more people get to experience these cans at a great price and hopefully put hifiman name out there. I could understand why you would be disappointed though.
>Budget
100€ (130€ hard limit)
>Location
Europe (I'll buy from amazon)
>Source
Smartphone
>Preferred type of headphone
In-ear
>Open or closed
Isolating
>Comfort level
High, possibly
>Preferred tonal balance
Anything is fine, as long as it's not extreme (I want bass, but I don't want to hear only bass)
>Preferred music
Rock, classical, jazz, EDM
>Past headphones
Cheap shit
>>51389826
Sony xba-100 I guess.
Beyer is not even trying anymore are they?
>>51390925
> not buying X2 or HD 600
>>51390925
Where can I learn to read these charts/how do the 'good' charts of these look?
Those headphhones are bad because the frequency seems to cut off at high ranges a lot?
>>51390979
>Those headphhones are bad because the frequency seems to cut off at high ranges a lot?
They are bad because of these two specific peaks which emphasizes brightness to an annoying degree.
>>51391026
How should a 'good' chart look in comparison?
>Budget
Under $100
>Location
USA (Amazon online)
>Source
Laptop and shite iPhone
>Preferred type of headphone
Full-sized?
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfortable for someone with glasses
>Preferred tonal balance
Equal? Bass is nice but no overload
>Preferred music
Electronic (Trance, DnB), 90's electronic, everything after that.
>Past headphones
Shitty Turtle Beach X12 that somehow lasted me for 5 years waow.
>>51391146
Starlux HD 681 EVO. Everyone says that they sound as good ad headphones which cost 7 times more.
>>51391287
And you didn't bother to check if it was actually true before recommending them.
>>51391093
Much smoother and flatter. Measurement systems have their own limitations.
What's the best resource on headphones? I want to make an informed decision myself before I buy.
daily reminder that i'm a huge faggot who thinks he's better than everyone else :^)
>>51391337
>smoother
That's a personal preference. As long as it stays close to neutral, it doesn't matter how jagged the FR is when you have to determine the fidelity.
How do AKG K7XX compare to Audio Technica ATH-AD900X? I've been interested in them because positive reviews but I fear they will sound too similar.
>>51391432
You need to have a baseline for any recommendation to work, whether a subjective review or a measurement of the device.
>>51391461
I don't see anything that isn't about personal preference.
Now we need to define close. "Jaggedness" is audible after a point that we have not established. Peaks stand out in listening, smoothing the response as you seem to imply is highly destructive wrt audible information.
Looking for headphones (with modmic) for gayming, ~130€ total with the modmic (50€).
Should I just get the Cloud? Should I?
Should I buy these from some dude on craigslist for $75, providing they are in tip top shape? He says he has the box and all accessories in great condition.
>>51391660
Yes. Good deal.
>>51388971
Alright, that 400i price is pretty tempting. I already own too many headphones. (SRH1540, DT1350, TMA-1,TMA-2,TMA 2 Guru, SHP9500, Trinity Audio Atlas, Xiaomi piston 2 & 3...)
Am i getting anything more by getting the 400i? Is it a decent upgrade from say the SRH1540 or SHP9500. I honestly feel like you hit diminishing returns after $300 so i don't know if the
400i are worth checking out. I could use a set of open cans to replace my SHP9500 but i definitely don't want redundancy.
>>51390622
I can't find reviews about this headphone. Is there anything more "mainstream" whose reliability has been proven? U don't want to spend 100€ for something that is likely to fall apart in some months.
Can anyone suggest me some really decent bluetooth headphones? I want it all noise cancelling, good sound quality, good build quality.
Sony MDR V6 / ATH MTH-30x / other recommendation below 100$
Music and Gaming
>>51391688
Largely the same as xba-10/c10.
>>51391704
I'm not sure that exists. At very least, nothing established
>>51391750
XPT100, m40x,
>>51391627
>"Jaggedness" is audible after a point
Pretty much anything that shows up on an FR chart is audible.
I'm just saying that A is better than B.
>>51391628
help, anyone?
>>51391026
>>51390925
Beyerdynamic is obsolete.
You know a company is shit when its flagship and most popular headphone (DT880) gets rekt by the HD558 for sound, durability, comfort, etc.
Complete headphone noob here. I'm looking for some in-ear buds that are decent quality for price, and can take some careless use. $30 limit.
Previously I was using those ~$8 black Monoprice buds with the fabric sleeved wires. Are those still the best? And what's the model number? I've lost it.
>>51391989
Well disregard. Found the pastebin in the OP.
Where to /cheap/ lads?
>Budget
$200-300
>Location
eastern europe
>Source
cowon d2, might be changed in future
>Preferred type of headphone
iem
>Comfort level
high
>isolation
very important
>Preferred tonal balance
neutral
>other
don't really like the idea of deep insertion
Is the MTH-50x a significant upgrade from the HD558, or is there a reason I would want to own both? If not what should I get?
>>51392247
Do you really need to be spoonfed that much?
>>51392247
ath-m50x is a significant downgrade from anything, the m40x is better
What is the best in-ear headphone I can get that is has a similar shape to the Apple Earpods? I am using the Amazon headphones right now and I really like them, but surely there is something better that doesn't involve me earfucking myself every 30 minutes.
>>51392268
Yes please.
>>51392270
This doesn't seem real.
>>51391879
so there is literally no good bluetooth headphone set on the market?
is this literal garbage?
Bose SoundLink
http://amzn.com/B0117RGG8E
>>51392309
No.
Yes.
>>51392318
>>51392318
well fuck; I guess I'll never find a wireless solution for headphones that actually sound good :( I like to be disconnected to my device around the house
>>51392309
>>51392359
Sony MDR-1ADAC is decent.
400i>HD600
Why people get the HD600 is beyond me. Not only are you spending 399 for it you will also need an amp to drive them and at that point you can just get the 400i which run off anything and sound so much better.
>>51392508
you don't need an amp for the HD600
>>51392517
if you don't want them to sound like ass you do.
Which headphone (open prefered) has deep sub bass without being a bass head headphone?
>>51392527
You don't know what you're talking about
The 400i are much harder to drive than the HD600
>>51392531
Planars.
>>51392508
400i are colored dogshit.
>>51392564
This, you can't get truly enveloping bass on subtier dynamics. Planars are the better technology.
>>51392531
Pretty much the entire DTXXX.x line of headphones by Beyerdynamic. You got the DT770, DT880,DT990, and the DT1350.
>>51392606
>>51392564
Are the Fostex T50RP MK3 any good?
They seem pretty cheap.
>>51392634
>Pretty much the entire DTXXX.x line of headphones by Beyerdynamic. You got the DT770, DT880,DT990, and the DT1350.
I had the DT770,880 and 990, i dont like them.
The 990 is to sibilant.
DT770 is closed.
DT880 is good but i want something even better.
>>51392642
No, and they're not open either.
>>51392606
It isn't, though.
Planar bass memers need to head back to reddit.
>>51392668
>even better
Implying you can do better than the DT880s.
>>51392680
Are they any good ones for under 500€ which are not hifimans?
>>51392682
What are you basing this on? It's not just the bass, it's the instrument separation and detail that draws you in. Like many speakers in one.
>>51392694
Not for open.
Oppo PM-3 for closed.
>>51392700
Nice buzzwords, now back to Head-Fi.
>>51392694
MadDogs.
>>51392706
How much is the first "good" open one?
>>51392720
Nice lack of substantial evidence. Go back to coconut audio.
>>51392726
It's HE400i but if you don't want Hifiman, the first good open planar bass headphone would be LCD-2.
>>51392759
The 400i are the superior headphone. It's actually neutral and does everything the LCD-2 can and doesn't weigh like a brick.
I just got these in the mail from massdrop yesterday. I'm satisfied with my purchase, I think the mids are a little bit lacking, but I can't really judge because 99% of the music I listen to is at home on my 558s. Good $30 purchase.
>>51392750
There is literally no benefit to planars, only the end result matters: FR.
No matter what driver type is used.
People use all sorts of buzzwords to describe planar sound like being fast with no veil, yet when I heard them they were more veiled than HD650 because it had a similar bass tilt in the FR.
>>51392214
Guys? Is deep insertion the only way to go?
>>51392776
>400i
>neutral
>>51392789
>There is literally no benefit to planars, only the end result matters: FR.
Not him but planars are flat down to 20hz while dynamics exhibit roll-off far before that
WTF?
IS SOMEONE REALLY STUPID ENOUGH TO BUY THIS?
>>51392793
If you're sure you want a smoother treble response Etys are the obvious choice. Else FAD Heaven II, but it has peaky treble but it's shallow fit.
>>51392819
The bass extension hardly matters in real world listening. Pic related.
>>51392819
Yes and they don't get congested, when tracks get complex planars will play every single thing without getting congested. As if there were many speakers playing different things.
>>51392842
>The bass extension hardly matters in real world listening. Pic related.
>the sennheiser damage control is real
>>51392859
Enough with your head-fi bullshittery
>>51392842
>bass extension hardly matters
That's right, cause we can only hear down to 50hz!
Sennheiser shills will defend this.
>>51392869
It literally does not matter, at 30hz the output of both are roughly the same and the lcd-2 has a midrange rise too early
>>51392793
Ask that guy from CustomArt to make you a custom, maybe. You aren't going to havemuch luck outside EQ otherwisze.
>>51392819
Planars go to 5Hz, but the dynamic can still reach 20Hz well enough.
