>How to request purchase advice:
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>Earphones /g/uide:
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>Previous thread:
>>51346415
First for 0.0 N on headphones that can bend its metal headband
First for highest fidelity headphones in production aka HD600.
First for low fidelity trash.
>>51361726
>inb4 bait is taken
>>51361726
Looking for portables. Have the opportunity for either the DT770 (250ohm) or the Able Planet NC1050b, ATH-M50, or UE6000. Which should I go with? I'd want something that will last a while, and something I can trade up from at a later time.
>>51361726
First for the best IEM's available, even better than the piston 3's, search on ali express lads.
KZ ED9
daily reminder that buying $1500 headphones doesn't make you have better taste in music
>>51363921
Those back ports means one thing: no isolation whatsoever.
>>51364405
>>51361800
>hd 600
>not hd 800, 700, 650, X2 or k702
lel
>>51364916
>shilling dt880s
Hello /hpg/!
I'm getting an O2/ODAC soon and need a nice picture to have engraved on the top of it but can't find anything I really like in my folders. Post one for me! must be 600~ppi and b&w or greyscale
[spoiler]memes welcome[/spoiler]
>>51365078
Would like to pick up a combined DAC/amp for myself sometime soon, as my motherboard's output buzzes. $50 or under. USB preferred.
>>51365447
hifimediy sabre dac
>>51364933
>the only one he didn't talked about
are you drunk?
>>51365613
hd800 = dt880 you dumb cunt
>>51364466
I use them In my house as i'm not a headphone guy, they have better isolation than the piston 3's and they have less cable noise/rub than the p3's due to having a rubber outer casing. they are incredible for the money.
>>51365624
>1k bucks = 200 bucks
>>51365652
>price = relevant
>>51365655
there are a few ways of understand that, and all make price relevant you idiot.
Either you are implying that HD800 is the same shit as DT800 or worse, in which case one offers the same quality for $800 less, which means it's retarded to pay more.
Or the most expensive one is better, in which case something that is shit in comparison costs much less, so people shouldn't be bored to spend that amount, instead they should save money unless they actually can afford the better choice, which also makes valure relevant.
Some times your shitposting shits on itself you know.
>>51365753
they have very similar responses but the hd800 is worse because it's brighter and harsher thus more fatiguing
if you know absolutely fuck all about headphones why are you even here? fuck off
So is Koss PortaPro bad now? I don't see it in that rec $200 under list, although it's temp so I don't know. Here's this just in case.
>$50 Flexible
>US
>standard 3.5
>closed preferred but don't matter
>I found the Koss PortaPro pretty comfy, somewhere around there I guess
>bassy
>I had a Koss PortaPro and I liked it but it was too fragile with the wiring.
>>51365776
That's my point you idiot, stop ruining your own shitposting, it's embarrassing.
>>51365821
???
fuck off already you absolute dumbass
>>51365776
>Hd800 worse than the dt880
Have you ever actually heard them? Seriously?
Kekekekek
>>51365833
wow, you are green, you can't even shitpost right, lurk more.
>>51365861
>being so uninformed you think more expensive = better
ignorance is bliss i suppose
>>51365613
>>51365624
>>51365652
>>51365655
>>51365753
>>51365776
>>51365821
>>51365833
>>51365861
>>51365867
>>51365870
>>51365882
pls stop fighting and bumping this thread with more useless posts everybody knows that dt880 was made in 1980's to copy electrostatic headphones and the hd800 copied the beyerdynamic sound signature and improved upon it
so just buy a sr-007/sr-009, he90/he1060 headphone if you want neutral or hd600 if you want natural
>>51365870
Nope, I absolutely don't think that, I've just listened extensively to both models and know which one I think is better
>>51365885
Sorry mum, you're right
>>51365885
>making it more ear-rape is improving upon it
lolno, maybe with the new reivison but current hd800 are shit
>>51365890
>opinions
i have also listened to both but i'm not delusional enough to think my or anyone elses subjective opinions mean shit. graphs clearly indicate the hd800 being much brighter and harsher than the dt880 which they are
>>51365904
Oh they are definitely harsh but it only takes a little eqing to help them become an amazing headphone, apart from that the 800 is better in every way
>>51365933
both headphones can be EQ'd
the hd800 however are not even close to being worth their asking price, while the dt880 can be had for a measly $150
>>51365946
the 990 is on sale at amazon for $150
is that a better buy?
>>51365991
i believe there's still a deal on 990 pros for $120 on adorama
>>51365946
Maybe not with the price but is there another headphone out there that can do what the 800 does? In terms of detail, imaging and soundstage
>>51366064
>detail, imaging and soundstage
not even gonna get started on this shit but every speakerfag on the planet just cringed and then laughed at you at you implying soundstage in headphones
did i fell for a meme /hpg/?
>>51366220
anon...
>>51366220
>spending more on the source than headphones
>>51366323
theres still time, what do i swap for?
im literally not trolling im just bored so figured id make the office more fun
>>51366356
just don't buy one at all you probably don't need it, your motherboard should do fine unless it's from 2005
>>51366367
at work i use a docked thinkpad... i do have hq source:
np: Mogwai - Remurdered [06:25m/2946Kbps/44KHz/flac]
money isnt really too much of a thing, but is there a better matched headphone here im not aware of?
>>51366220
i actually think you avoided a lot of the meme bullshit you find on higher end schiit products, like the tube amps and r2r dacs.
k240 is also pretty solid, though you don't see many around
>>51366397
>hq source
my sides
v0/v2 mp3 is audible indifferent to flac
>>51366407
and i have functionally infinite disk space so why not ;)
Allo
>>51366415
may as well buy a yggy/ragnarok stack then
>>51366425
i mean, id like to point out the fact my solution was $90 and that is closer to $4000... its like you people live in a world of binary extremes. i just wanted a slightly nicer work experience from my sol republic v8s
>>51366220
just get the ATH-AD900X or beyer 990 pros
>>51366424
you know everyone hates your taste so do you just post that in every thread for shitsngiggles?
>>51366442
yes and the schiit fulla is not going to do anything unless there is something audibly wrong with the output from your dock/thinkpad
if you think dac/amps magically make products sound better, you're mistaken
>>51366469
wait, im inclined to believe you. then why do dac/amps exist if my laptop is sufficient?
>>51366463
i respect his waifu choice desu senpai and he got the audezes for a solid price
My ER-4PT Ear4pe earphones arrived from shipping. I'll give my first impressions on them later tonight even if I sound dumb. You don't have to listen to whatever I say but I'll give my honest opinions on it whether I like it or not.
I will not shill this at all. I only got it because I wanted an upgrade from my $40usd Etymotic EK5 that I got from amazon. My EK5's sound great for blocking out everything noisy outside. Plus these are uncomfortable so what's the point of shilling these if they sound flat and boring I think.
I'm not sure yet, so I'll try them right now. ebay and paypal says I paid $191.23usd for these using my ebay voucher two weeks ago. I think these will be my last audio related things I'll ever buy.
>>51366481
because audiophiles
>it's such an easy market when it's full of idiots who believe anything they're told
the only other reason would be that your source is actually crappy and there are still plenty of onboard solutions that sound like shit (which you don't have to be a trained listener to notice)
amps exist for headphones that are more difficult to drive and need more power than some onboard solutions can provide
>>51366481
Not him but hard to drive headphones/ bad on board noise
>>51366526
>>51366532
532 said what i was thinking, theyre 55ohm headphones that i bought... that wouldnt be improved by a dac or anything? im a luddite here so im genuinely retarded when it comes to this. i dont for a second doubt it will 'work,' but will there be any palpable difference between dac/onboard with those phones?
>>51366469
It actually may not be loud enough. Consider that if you have an output impedance 20 ohms or higher, the k240 becomes quieter than the hd600.
>>51364916
but hd600 has superior fidelity when compared with all of those headphones
>>51365885
there are no measurements of the new Orpheus, hd600 is still the most neutral choice today except for er-4
>>51366612
output impedance on decent realtek solutions are ~2ohm these days
>>51366503
That's a delicious flat response there.
>>51365885
Oh and SR-009 and SR-007 aren't neutral, just correcting the misinformation on your post.
>>51366631
that's directly out of the chip, but in reality they have resistance after the chip to stabilize the output. You will probably have a shit load more, possibly 80 ohms, maybe 50 or 35 ohms if you are lucky, and 20 ohms if you are really really lucky.
>>51366688
uh no, that's measured at the output
>>51366688
Source because mine is dead flat when load testing with RMAA on BA IEMs.
>>51365139
Sorry anon I can't use this, I'm Jewish :/
>>51365171
What's this? Beyer's frequency response chart?
>>51365779
pls respondo
>>51366713
>Sorry anon I can't use this, I'm Jewish :/
What's that have to do with anything? :^)
>>51366688
np: Taylor Swift - All You Had to Do Was Stay [03:11m/3033Kbps/96KHz/flac]
still interesting in this discussion, i havent been compelled to cancel the order yet so it looks like i'm gonna meme it up
>>51366960
>96KHz
>>51367058
can you show me any tests showing the 96khz sounds worse than 44
>>51367109
can you show me any evidence that 96khz sounds audibly superior to 44.1khz which covers the entire human hearing spectrum
>>51367155
i can't, but if i live in a world with infinite space i'll take a placebo which costs me nothing.
unusued harddrive space is wasted harddrive space.
>>51367199
if you have such a varying range in sample rates of audio you're going to get some up/downsampling ruining audio fidelity unless you properly configure a resampler
>>51367231
im genuinely retarded so what does that mean? is this a physical layer issue with my hardware, or a software encoder/decoder thing? i dont have anything over 96khz
>>51365779
>I had a Koss PortaPro and I liked it but it was too fragile with the wiring.
Doesn't Koss have a lifetime warranty?
>>51367301
does the lifetime warranty cover the headphones being broken into pieces?
>>51367450
yes
>>51367786
i thought this smelled like shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poRtzb11W58
and then
http://www.head-fi.org/t/182064/koss-lifetime-warranty
seems legit
>>51367786
Oh neat, well I'm just going to get that fixed then. Thanks anon.
fiio x1 or the cheapest cowon? I think its called audio9+ or some shit
>>51366503
What's the deal w/ Etymotic IEMs having such a low high frequency response cutoff? I mean, who can't hear above 15khz?
VSD1S for 35 on amazon, been wanting a replacement for my broken cx300s. Is it a nice replacement?
Here's my first impressions of my ER-4PT. This is my first day of owning it. ER-4PT's treble sounds the best when used with the big foam tips, glider tips are horrible. ER-4PT's are more clearer sounding than a dull and boring Etymotic EK5. The ER-4PT's are still very uncomfortable with either foam or tri-flange tips as of right now. So tough it out and get used to them. They block out everything noisy outside, I dislike this because I need open back headphones to hear my pet or outside.
They do not sound like HD800's or HD600's. I think ER-4PT's closely sounds like the SR-009 that I auditioned with the Oppo HA-1 amp, I'm not sure please tell me if I'm wrong (headphones sound better than tiny little earphones sound like imaging). The ER-4PT's bass is not here and extended like my HE-400i like I cannot for my life hear bass guitars or low notes loudly on these ER-4PT's. While using this with the tri-flange tips it'll give you a false sense of volume perceieved loudness and can maybe potentially trick you into listening to loud volumes.
HD600 and ER-4PT are the most enjoyable and more laid back headphone or earphones I own. I think my SRS-2170 still sounds the best with sweet vocals. CD900ST is just a tool for vocals and my HD600 beats it but CD900ST's vocals sounds more forward than everything. What I'm talking about here is using these for anime or whatever.
I don't really recommend the ER-4PT because there's a lot more negatives. Like the false sense of volume perceived loudness if used with the tri-flange tips, the cable noise because the cable's too thick when using it with tri-flange tips. And the treble is not as loud which I prefer. All of these negatives can be fixed by using the big foam tips supplied.
Build quality of the earphone housing itself is very delicate. You can step on a Etymotic EK5 with your foot and no problems. Please don't do the same to the ER-4PT or it's broken.
>>51368895
I can hear up till 17kHz or 18kHz. It's better with foam tips.
>>51369014
Oh no. I got confused which amp the SR-009 came with. I think it was the SRM-007t MK2 amp. Please forget about whatever I said about that Oppo amp.
HD800 still sounds great. I didn't talk about it in my post above because I only use it for music and that's all. HD800 has better imaging and headstage than everything I own, that's why it's worth keeping. Soundstage doesn't exist and it sounds the same on all headphones to me. The HD600 still sounds mono'ish maybe because it has a smaller headstage feel. If there's any questions or something I mentioned please correct me. I don't wanna post anymore today.
>>51369014
>I can hear up till 17kHz or 18kHz. It's better with foam tips.
That's reasonable, as with a typical audio file the lower frequencies will mask anything above 18k pretty much entirely. I was more referring to their cheaper models which advertise a frequency extension to 15khz. Just seems weird.
Also, with the ER-4PT frequency response chart you posted, it looks like there is a pretty significant bump at about 3k. To me that seems incredibly silly, as our ears emphasize that frequency range as well, and a bump that big if implemented on a GEQ would sound really harsh and awful. Do you notice it?
What's a recommended step up from HD598s? I'd especially appreciate an improvement when it comes to bass but otherwise I don't have any major complaints with my current headphones.
>>51369318
I think that's the raw measured data. Like if you can look on innerfidelity and see it. And I'm not to be trusted on whatever I say. I just say my honest opinions on all positives and negatives. If people want to hate on me do whatever you want, I'm just here to express if I hate the stuff I own or not. I never shill, just chill. I dislike posting too many times.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/EtymoticER4PT.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SennheiserHD600.pdf
ER-4PT has better mids than this
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/VSonicVS05.pdf
But I'm still thinking the Etymotic ER-4PT is way overpriced for what it is. It used to be very cheap a long time ago isn't it? These earphones do not image instrument separation at all well and it's still uncomfortable if you don't need noise-isolation. I don't think it's on par with nice tier headphones like Stax or HD800. I think this ER-4PT is a little bit worser than this HD600. I'm not sure, I'll give it some more time because this is my first day having the ER-4PT.
I also forgot to mention about the ER-4P to ER-4S adapter. I'll give my full opinions on them another day. I have no idea what's the difference right now. I'm still confused.
>>51369412
ER-4S has more treble and it's more neutral according to the diffuse field target.
IMO ER-4S has the best treble I've heard on headphones but it's not perfect but closest to a speaker like response.
I don't know shit about headphones, can someone please explain the differences between the dt990 pro and dt990 premium models?
>>51369938
clamping force (less clamp on premium), cable (coiled pro or straight premium), visual design, extra impedance offerings (32 and 600 ohm models available with premium)
>>51369938
pros have coiled cables and clamp more, headbands can bend if you didn't know
premiums look very cool and newer than the pros that still look like vintage beyers from 1980's
>>51369961
>>51369951
thanks for the answers, I do like the way the premiums look but not enough to justify the huge difference in price and I plan on getting the 250ohm model so that doesn't matter to me either.
>>51370019
https://slickdeals.net/f/8242713-beyerdynamic-dt-990-pro-250ohms-open-headphones-120-after-30-rebate-free-shipping
in case you're in the US
>>51370019
I wonder how vintage 1985 DT990s or 1980 DT880s measures against their newer headphones.
HD668B sounds like a DT990 if you didn't know and is more cheaper. But the Superlux might have more distortion and could sound worse.
>>51370061
I believe Ken Rockwell prefers his vintage 990s to HD800s because they're not as harsh. I imagine as they were intended to in the first place, they follow the DF curve much better than current iterations
>>51370061
Just saw an one on ebay. It's been recabled but that's to be expected with their age. I'd probably bid on it if they weren't asking almost $175 with shipping.
So apparently the HE-560 are going to have the new 2.5mm TRS connector soon, cool
whenever I walk around with in-ear, no matter how expensive, I can EAR the cable bumping around and making A LOT of noise.
Sometimes it's even louder than the music itself and annoys me to no end.
What can I do?
>>51370340
give up on life tbhfam
>>51370340
Get ones that go around the back of your ear and/or just do that for the ones you already have (depends on the shape).
Hey, everyone! I'm planning on getting a pair of Audeze LCD2 Pre-fazor and was wondering which amp/dac solution I should go far, I'm currently looking at two options, The Aune X1S and the O2+ODAC combo rev B, they both have the same bells and whistles I want and I've heard that the Aune X1S complements the LCD2s quite well but was worried that it wouldn't power them properly enough and the O2+ODAC seems nice and all but it doesn't have as many inputs and outputs and it doesn't look as nice but it can power the LCD2s plenty fine. Which one should I go for?
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question.
Can I get some feedback on the Audio-Technica ATH-MSR7GM? Also, are these even better if I get a Sound Blaster and/or Magni and Modi?
All help needed.
>>51370459
They're planars so they basically act as a resistive load on any amp. So you can pretty much drive them with anything. You can even jack them directly into regular speaker amps.
>>51370571
Seriously? So different amps won't sound different on them? Cause I've heard of people not having powerful enough amps to drive them even though those amps can drive other 70Ohm headphones. (portable amps in particular)
>>51370628
The point is they're not touchy feely like dynamics when you look at output impedance and such on an amp. But they're pretty low sensitivity by nature. Just buy some cheap 70-80's solid state set and you're good to go.
>>51370671
Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate your help. :)
Got the Sprite with the codeine, half dead but I look clean.
>>51370803
everything is fucking shit
>>51370813
How so?
>>51370803
I swear to god not even furries like animals
I bet they just do it to piss off people
grats: it works
>>51370486
Anybody?
>>51370853
I love animals, got a cat and looking to get a dog next.
>>51370915
muh musachio
Will running RCA connected equipment like speakers through a 3.5mm port via an adapter result in a difference of sound quality? And also vice versa? I kinda don't want to spend extra on a DAC with rca ports.
>>51361726
Any type of headphone more expensive than pic related is placebo in terms of sound quality and comfort. Best case scenario the improvement you get for the money is not worth the price. Prove me wrong!
Protip: You can't!
>>51370961
Man, I wish that was the case. Tried a pair of SE846(my brother's) wasn't impressed in comparison to my Fidelio X2s until I actually noticed how bad my X2s sound and now I can't stand them, my beloved X2s were shat on by pair of fucking earphones. If it was as easy as being placebo then it would save a lot of people a lot of money. Also, have you considered that people might want to pay for the build quality? There's more to a pair of headphones than just sound quality.
>>51371110
>wasnt impressed with them until i realized how bad my x2s sound
so you thought your x2s were good until you realized they were bad, which happened after you were unimpressed with his earphones and had an epiphany later that they were actually good and your x2s were shit?
can i have your brothers email? i just want to ask him if you have any official mental issues
>>51371110
That is true, have you ever had the takstars in hand? The build quality is ridiculous for the price point. From cable to everything they seem really sturdy and like they would stand the test of time. The build quality argument kinda fades when you consider people are buying Hifiman headphones. Sure you may want a differently designed earpiece. But does design justify spending 200$ instead of 35?
>>51371148
Well, I wasn't impressed by the HD600s when I had the X2s so there's that.
>>51371160
you also have to imagine that to a lot of people, 35 and 200 dollars are neither a lot of money. nothing even needs to be justified, it's more like, "why not?"
but no, there is a difference. for example, i will only buy headphones with memory foam and a detachable cable
>>51371160
True but there are outliers in almost every category where it makes the generally good stuff look meh, just look at the O2+ODAC combo, made almost everything in its price point at the time look bad when in matter fact, it was just a really great DAC/AMP that was sold for low margins.
>>51371185
they still make most gear look bad at any price point.
there's a reason why the o2 is still used by a lot of people when doing headphone measurements
>>51371178
I imagine you can get pads with memory foam for the Takstars for a decent price. The cable is not detachable but i am slightly curious as to why you or anyone else would consider this to be an important advantage.
>>51371185
I have little experience with DAC/Amps but i remember reading up a comparison on Tomshardware between the on-board audio codec which is like $5, a sound card that is like $200 and two dacs that were priced at $500 and $2000. The headphonse used were HD800 and the only noticeable difference found between the lot was that the $5 on board was not as loud as the rest -5db specifically. The only think that made a difference was the format of the audio file, whether it was an standard MP3 or a Vinyl rip. Wonder how much truth that holds. The people testing it was an amateur audiophile and an enthusiast audiophile.
>>51371241
>The only think that made a difference was the format of the audio file, whether it was an standard MP3 or a Vinyl rip
no shit inferior vinyl rips are going to sound worse than objectively superior cd format
>>51371241
A removable cable is nice to have, it can save your ass if your headphones come with a shite cable or you want a cable of variable length(also, you can have multiple cables with multiple lengths and connectors for different occasions)
As for DAC/AMP, I'd say that the change in dac from 50 to >100 euros isn't noticeable at all, most of the difference comes from amps having less noise, different sound signatures themselves and being able to power headphones with high impedance.
>>51371207
True, the O2 is a great piece of hardware.
>>51371307
So what is the cheapest DAC you can recommend that justifies the investment. Also would it be worth to bother with one or will i see any noticeable improvement on the Takstars HI2050?
>>51368895
Driver breakup, possibly armature weight, general weakness of all balanced armatures. It's funny because MK5 has 20kHz extension.
>>51369318
>it looks like there is a pretty significant bump at about 3k. To me that seems incredibly silly, as our ears emphasize that frequency range as well
There's a little something you're missing, and this is that IEM listening de-emphasizes 3kHz. Think about how the ear applies equalization onto the incoming sound, and how canalphones disrupt that. Any flat spectrum sound measured at the eardrum is going to be boosted significantly in the upper mid, and this is measured on an eardrum simulator.
>>51371314
Well, with the exception of the LED.
>it has to be red
>>51371377
still better than blue at least
didn't somebody have an green LED on their one? i think it was mayflower
>>51371110
What's so bad about the X2's sound?
>>51371334
DAC/AMP or DAC only? Also, are you going moving from on board to dac/AMP or do you already have a pair? Honestly it's pretty hard to justify a DAC/AMP since you'd be spending more on the source but even if you pay like 90 bucks for DAC/AMP combo, you can still benefit from it down the line if you ever plan on upgrading cause the FiiO E10K, Micca Origen, Schiit Fulla and Monoprice DAC(it's a DAC and amp) are a combos that can be had for 75 to 105 dollars and are worth the price in my opinion.
>>51371438
Nothing, they're actually a great pair, they just sounded bad in comparison but that doesn't mean it's not without its flaws, I've noticed on my unit that there's a bit of an imbalance in channels in terms of frequency response and this is kind of a recurring issue with other people as well but other than that, they're pretty great in terms of sound and build quality for the price. Don't regret paying their full retail price.
>>51371478
Was interested in DAC only. I don't have a setup right now. As pathetic as it sounds i use some old Speakers that have a 3.5mm input to push my headphones as far as loudness goes past what the on-board would generate.
>>51371501
I honestly wouldn't recommend that, I'd recommend getting a DAC/AMP with an RCA preamp line out instead and hooking it up to your speakers and headphones , I highly doubt a 3.5 line out from an old pair of speakers is going to do your headphones justice when compared to a dedicated unit.
>>51371538
What dedicated solution then, would justify the price. Keep in mind that i am, in fact, poor :^)
>>51371556
There's one with pretty much nothing but a serial number for some absurdly low price.
Trying to google it as we speak, give me a couple of minutes.
>>51370697
If you don't want to get the vintage integrated amp, O2 is the better buy out of the two you were considering. Amp "complimenting" a pair of headphones is audiophile nonsense.
>>51371501
Don't get a DAC only if you want to use headphones. The output is the most important part in your signal chain after the headphones. A dedicated DAC usually has just a line level output which is not suitable for driving a load. They usually lack power and don't work at all with low impedance headphones.
bumping this>>51370946
>>51371582
Thanks!
What do you think of the ATH M50X at 129€ ?
>>51371612
Speaking of which, what is your price range?
>>51371634
Rather embarrassed to admit but my price range is...the chepest thing worth buying and even that may be too expensive. Sucks being poor in Romania
>>51371648
I suppose it sucks being poor anywhere but when you're poor for my country's standard...well then.
>>51371648
Well, if you want a dirt cheap amp, it would be something like the ZHILAI H1, or the behringer UCA202.
But, if there's no noise from the audio out on your pc, there's no reason to waste money on a DAC.
Let alone your takstars, which should perform just fine without an amp.
>>51371681
The Zhailai looks nice and i can get it from aliexpress for 12 bucks where i usually get all of my shit from. Plus if it's no improvement 12 dollars is nothing to fret over. Thanks for the recommendation!
Anybody tried the Creative Aurvana Live! What I'm hearing seems to be that they're the best sounding headphones at that price point. I've got large ears though so if anybody with them could vouch for how comfortable they are (good or bad) I'd appreciate the input.
I had them from 2011 to some months ago after which the cord died. Used them while commuting 80% of the time and they did that job great. Would recommend to try out.
>>51371830
>>51371869
My ears are medium sized and I never once thought of comfort issues.
>>51371883
I guess I should throw out some dimensions - my ears are ~7.5cm from top of the ear to bottom of my ear lobe. My old headphones used to fit right around them without putting any pressure on them and that's what I'd love to get out of my next pair.
If you had the CAL handy I'd really appreciate it if you could measure the internal dimensions.
>>51371830
I have/had them. Wouldn't recommend.
Cable broke 2 times and you have to pay the shipping for fixing them...
I don't miss anything.
Buy an X2 and move to the next level. Why paying for an amp when you can have the best sound quality directly from your laptop?
>>51371110
If you think that earphones sound better than open headphones, there's only one reason: autism
>>51372202
Is that literally the best you could do? Call me names? I'm relaying my experience which was heavily biased towards my own headphones. These weren't earphones that I bought, I was actually very much against them at first and even when I heard them, I wanted to convince myself that my headphones were better but they weren't so that's that. Also, being open back headphones doesn't really say much about them in terms of sound quality, it just sets some expectations about how they'd usually sound.
>>51372202
Some IEMs sound absolutely phenomenal. They can achieve excellent fidelity and consistency regardless of the listener. SE846s are way too bassy for me but SE535s from Shure is pretty nice already.
>>51372202
Some IEM manage headstage better than headphone though in high-end class.
>>51366085
>being such a faggot
>>51372814
Prove it.
>>51372841
Can't prove soundstage anyway so easily, since it's all in your head.
What are some good/cheap IEMs with mic/controls since my apple earbuds died?
>>51373007
How cheap?
Regardless, try MEElectronics M6P. Pretty gud for a cheapo pair
>>51373111
$50 and under
I'm at a pretty happy place nowadays. Haven't had the urge to upgrade anything for a while.
What are the most comfy wireless headphones under 100€, /hpg/? I'm looking mostly for battery life and comfort, the Sony MDR-ZX330BT seem pretty good for 70 euros, do you guys know if they're decent? Have a gondola for your trouble
/hpg/.
I look towards the heavens and scream one question, and one question only.
Q701 or HD600?
I owned the HD600 for some time, and while I love them, the conductive spring in the right channel got fucked up and I have to return it. I can either refund and buy a Q701, or get a replacement HD600.
>>51374680
HD600.
>>51374720
Ellaboration would be nice, in terms of sound I mean.
I understand the mid and treble response is great on the HD600, but where it falls short is detailing.
Will I get a good tradeoff with the Q701? What will I lose and what will I gain?
>>51371351
>MK5
I ordered mine. But that 95dB sensitivity though, I hope it can reach acceptable volume levels with my smartphone.
>>51374735
Q701 has the tendency to provide a weak seal which results in weak bass.
It also has a large 2kHz spike, a large dip at 4kHz, then a peak at 7kHz.
It's not as neutral as the HD600 and it provides worse detailing since the treble response is strange.
If you want treble detail, get a DT880 which is bright but at least it isn't susceptible to bass roll-off. DT880 has recessed mids though, but I'd still pick it over the Q701 and its problems.
Else, just get another HD600, it can't be beat.
>>51374840
What about 400S and X2?
>>51374680
>conductive spring in the right channel got fucked up
Can't you order another from Sennheiser?
>>51374747
The treble extension only seems to apply with aftermarket tips.
>>51374854
HE400S is not as neutral as the HD600 sadly, it has weak upper midrange and the highs are peaky around 7kHz too.
X2 is V-shaped with strong upper bass and boosted treble.
Hi, in my country Takstar Pro 80 cost 85 euros, is it still worth it, or there other headphones i could find that are as good/better for same or possible cheaper?
>>51374735
>I understand the mid and treble response is great on the HD600, but where it falls short is detailing.
Detailing is frequency response. HD 600 does better here than the X2 or HE-400S if that's what you are after.
>>51374854
If you don't like the flat, boring and deadly sound HD 600 provides, X2 is the best open headphone in that price range.
>>51374959
Or better than Q710, too.
Can't stop me /g/
>>51374945
>>51374967
>>51374959
What I'm looking for is basically a more detailed HD600. Same lush mids, but just more clarity and detail in treble.
I tried DT880s and they had abhorrent mids.
Are you all saying that there is no headphone that will give me this?
>>51374884
Are there measurements with Shure foam tips?
I have some of those somewhere...
>>51374980
>that orange accent
Cringe.
>>51374967
When does the flat is boring meme die? It's the opposite. Hearing everything crystal clear is nice af and if what you listen to on neutral setup sounds boring, it says more about the stuff you listen than the gear.
>>51374984
X2 offers great detail in bass as well as in treble (epsecially some percussions), but it has low mids.
>>51374984
Doesn't get much better than HD 600. EQ for the best fidelity.
>>51374980
note 4 bro...get the otterbox commuter. way better lookin than that shite
>>51374984
>abhorrent
I learned a new word today.
Anyway, I don't think it's possible to find what you're looking for. The HD600 already has plenty of detail, have you heard another headphone or loudspeaker that gives the impression of more detail?
>>51375030
>The HD600 already has plenty of detail
I listened to SR-009, HD800 and HD650 side by side once. While not the HD600 itself, the HD650 rendered every detail that the other two did, except it felt further back in the mix or lower volume. I'm sure the HD600 has some of the best detail retrieval because it's supposedly brighter.
>>51375071
Yes that's pretty close with the difference between HD 650 and HD 600. HD 650 has a warmer tone making the highs and upper mids play in a bit lower volume compared to bass frequencies. Your best bet is probably just get the HD 600 and do a precise EQ to fix the small-ish peaks and dips in the highs. In my subjective impression I think my HD 800 has better 'detail' than my HD 650 even if both are equalized to near flat response. Difference is small though and the larger difference in sound is the more open/airy feel of the HD 800 in this case. Could be part placebo, too. Frequency response is almost everything here and no headphone is perfectly flat. Thankfully, EQ can fix the problems even the best fidelity headphones have quite damn well.
if i get a laptop with bad audio quality and plug in an o2+odac will the audio be good
>>51375194
Yes
>>51375194
Yes because you're bypassing the audio with the ODAC's USB input.
>>51375194
Yes if your headphones are good. O2+ODAC makes sure it's not the hardware driving them limiting your setup's sound quality.
>>51375205
>>51375210
thought so, just making sure. thanks
>>51375001
>>51375025
Oh no I don't have le generic black phone case so cringy!
>>51375305
post pic of your face
>>51374984
Besides beating it into line with EQ, nothing is guaranteed. With HD600, a filter boosting around 6-8kHz can work.
>>51375001
Unfortunately not. The point seems that the stock Ety sleeves are causing interference in the response above 12-13kHz, which is my subjective impression compared to Star tips.
Shure foams seems slightly weaker in the extreme high treble than Star/Comply. Could be the insertion.
I won't blame you for not taking my impression seriously, but at very least you can always fall back on the Westone Star.
>>51375030
SHP9500 (which I also own) offers a tad better treble, I feel. Maybe slightly more pulled back mids and very lacking lowend, but clarity is a bit better I feel.
Seal is kinda shitty on it tho
>pay $40 and use Superlux HD 668B for about a year
>now have about $300
is upgrading actually worth it or will it be just diminishing returns from here on out?
>>51375493
No. As a matter of fact, diminishing returns REALLY start to kick in ABOVE 300.
What are you considering?
>>51375493
Definitely upgrades but it's diminishing returns from there. Those Superlux headphones are excellent for the price.
>>51375409
Do you use the foam or silicone Star tips?
I despise Comply for their durability.
>>51375493
Diminishing returns. the 668B is a really great value for money, a $300 headphone will be better but would not be better by a significant margin.
I have a $75 gift card from Best Buy. What could I possibly buy with it, especially since all of this black friday shit is kicking up?
>>51375514
>>51375519
>>51375541
>conflicting opinions
/hpg/ pls
>>51375581
The diminishing returns do start from there. The Superluxes measure really well. Past the 300 euro/dollar point is where the returns aren't really even there anymore. Just sidegrades almost no matter how much you spend. From Superluxes and up you do get noticeably better fidelity, comfort and build quality but it's quite obvious that the value is not quite the same even if it's individual.
>>51375661
fuck, maybe i'll just go buy some speakers. thanks m80
>>51375541
Silicone. Don't like Westone foams much.
Although I recently wrecked my favorite Star tip and am stuck with my slowly disintegrating Comply.
Is 50€ too much for the Superlux HD 681 EVO? I heard many people say that they sound great. Also do they leak sound? I'm looking for a new pair of heapdhone for a portable device (phone, music player) I can use during travels.
Can i kill low impedance IEMs with a Objective2 Amp?
>>51373007
Mine died too this weak, orered soundmagic E30
What is the difference in the HD 600 and 650? How are the sound quality difference?
>>51376095
the headband color, dont buy sennheiser
>>51376095
They're both shit, but HD 600 is overpraised.
>>51376119
Calling it shit won't be convincing, elaborate
>>51376131
just waste your money and dont come back to cry
>>51376119
And there must be a reason why they are praised so highly
>>51376147
Looking to replace my ATH m50x cable .
Would there be a huge difference in sound quality from the cable I can buy off Audio Technica vs from Amazon?
Also, I found these. Are woven cables just as good as the regular cable?
>>51376170
Ridiculous, are you even trying. I've seen many headphone from brands that was broken
>>51375682
I mean it's up to you whether you see the worth in upgrading. I sure did but I can't say you get some mindblowing differences with new headphones.
>>51376044
Yes. Nothing to do with low impedance but low sensitivity. Just like you can kill any transuducer by pushing too much current into it. You'd be quite dumb to do so, especially if you are wearing them. Your eardrums will break long before the headphones.
>>51376095
HD 600 is close to neutral, HD 650 is warmer but not that far off from the HD 650. HD 600 seems like the better buy in most cases as it has higher fidelity and costs less.
>>51376194
Ignore the shitposting.
>>51376204
not that far off from the HD 600*
>>51376016
It leaks a lot, it's not ideal for traveling.
>>51376044
No.
>>51376095
HD650 has more bass and less highs.
>>51376170
There are broken headphones from every manufacturer, your point being?
>>51376184
No difference in sound quality.
>>51376147
In the spirit of /v/: artificial quality.
>>51361726
how are these?
http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRZX110AP-Series-Smartphone-Headset/dp/B00OUX6U6G/ref=dp_ob_title_ce
getting without mic
>>51376147
Because it's the most neutral full-sized headphone that money can buy today.
>>51376109
but my hd 439 is great senpai
Anyone had any experience with ATH-ANC9? I really need total noise cancellation and muh comfort and I heard these one are pretty sound
So I take it that HD600 is the logical upgrade from the MDR-V6 for a flat, neutral and detailed sound?
I just can't decide /hpg/:
>RHA MA-750
>Shure SE215
Which one?
>>51376396
>no response
Well fuck it, I ordered a HD600 on amazon.
Do you guys have any recommendations for "gimmicky" headphones?
Like the K550's which are fucking massive or the Skullcandy Crusher that actually vibrate along with the bass.
They don't necessarily need to be good, just have a gimmick like that.
So i'm new to this and i decided to buy K7XX's in the recend massdrop. is there a noticable difference in sound quality between expensive amps and cheap amps and what should i go for? and what happens if i don't buy one at all?
FAQ is ded
>>51363921
>KZ ED9
i was looking at piston 3s, do i pull the trigger on this?
>>51377568
The sennheisers have a gimmick for snapping.
Has anyone tried this or something similar?
I really like my AKG's but I have a separate gaymun headset just to be able to talk to people.
My biggest concern is if it's a mess and a hassle
>>51377777
Too much of a hassle for something you can achieve with a 5$ desktop mic, or even if you have an Android phone there are applications that can turn it into a mic. You just need a 3,5mm male to male cable which costs like a dollar.
I actually use that setup and it picks up the sound nicely even when my cellphone is resting on my desk.
>>51377830
Wow, I'm gonna look into those Android apps, thanks a lot.
i ended up buying a cheap $70 android phone instead of a flaghship. going to use that money for a new HD 800 for $870. This should last me for life right?
>>51377486
>Well fuck it, I ordered a HD600 on amazon
atleast you easily can send it back to amazon
Fidelio X2 or Superlux HD 681 EVO?
>>51377859
>>51376336
>>51377886
nigger ape
with what can i replace the pads of my Sony MDR-V6? i recall reading here some image about the topic
Are there any IEMs out there that sound like HiFiMan HE-400i's?
>>51377859
As long as you have good DAC/Amp, yeah.
>>51379355
>As long as you have good DAC/Amp, yeah.
;) surely the post-purchase rationalization of an expensive dac/amp setup will make the hd800 sound not like shit
>>51379374
Whether or not a headphone is shit is 100% subjective. You could say that the first generation Beats Solos are the best headphones ever for all I care.
>>51379410
and what does that have to do with a 'good dac/amp'
>>51361726
Hey /hpg/ i am looking to buy new headphones and i was thinking to bey Sony MDR-V55 is it any Comfortable because i use many hours
>>51379355
are HE-400is really good? i can get one used for $290
Best IEM's/earbuds/whatever you call them for like 40 or less that are relatively neutral? I had etymotics and loved them but they broke.
>>51379486
That's a steal but you probably have to replace the pads just like with any other used headphone.
