Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners
If you are serious about switching to Linux, use it exclusively for 2 weeks, avoid windows dual booting for that period of time, or you are likely to start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to linux as your new home and working on making it feel comfortable
You can safely experience installation process and the basic usage through a virtual machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33sFFhgkWk
>Recommended for Beginners:
Mint, Xubuntu, openSUSE
>Learn to RTFM - Read The Friendly Manual
man <insert command here>
>Resources:
/r/linux4noobs
/r/linuxquestions
/r/unixporn
http://explainshell.com/
http://www.server-world.info/en/
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtK75qxsQaMLZSo7KL-PmiRarU7hrpnwK
Can anyone give me a quick reply to this:
I just installed linux in hyper v (VM program for windows) how do I get it to stop running the install ISO, and start running what I installed?
>>51360292
unmount the iso used for install?
>>51360292
remove the iso from the menu
>>51360306
>>51360309
I'm not seeing an option listed for unmounting the ISO, it might be deeper nested somewhere.. I'll try looking thanks.
>>51360199
>fedora users are teenagers
>>51360330
idk hyper v, but presumably you told it a location of an iso to do the install, yes?
Sorry for bothering you chaps, but I have a question. I am using Debian with XFCe and the WM, Thunar, that comes with it. Now, browsing image files is terribad. The WM doesn't remember settings for individual folders, just uses what I configure for everything. Also, uploading images is to 4chan is a pain due to the selection window in pic related. Is there anything that does this good, as in, like the windows WM? I would like to have the option to set views per folder, and be able to change views in the selection window as well.
>>51360354
I think I found the setting to fix it. Thanks guys.
>>51360199
>manjaro not a child distro
>>51360443
>arch
>gentoo
>same tier
what do you expect?
>>51360398
uploading is more practical if you open thunar and drag the files to your quick reply box. what do you mean it's terribad? what doesn't work for you?
>>51360479
...
I explained the lack of features in my post. That is what makes it terribad. It feels like it is from the 90s, without a configurable selection window.
>>51360414
I thought this was /flt/
>>51360533
>I thought this was /flt/
What is unfriendly about a simple and direct answer?
>>51360154
Ok, so is there no way to boot to windows from grb command line or are internet people incapable of helping
Linux bootloader fucked up during update
>how can i get in to windows for now
>Run grub-update from linux cd
>Run fixmbr on your windows cd
Like ffs, there has to be a way, but i never found it... Gave up and installed windows 10 over my 7 + Linux boot...
>inb4 just use the media dipshit
Didn't have access to do so at the time, didn't wanna download a 1GB ISO to fix a bootloader
>>51360533
you can change all the settings with keyboard shortcuts, why would you want folder-specific settings?
the selection windows is calles gtk-file-chooser and you can either use another one and go through tzhe process of patching your browser or you could use one window with thunar to drag a picture to the upload box like everyone else. i actually did the same back in windows because it was faster and more practical imo. if this is too much for you you could use KDE.
I'm aware that there are many linux distros that route traffic through the TOR network by default, does this genuinely increase my anonymity or does it just mean that I'll end up under scrutiny rather than the default mass data collection? Second to that, will this cause potentially illegal traffic to be routed through my network?
>>51360443
manjaro just works, it does not need 10 hours of finding out what you miss like arch
or 100 hours of compiling like gentoo
>>51360764
I only know of two, maybe three.
It's not magic, if you don't understand what it's doing then you should maybe not use it at all.
Normally the default would be to run as a client, so you're not even routing. It helps the network to be a relay node though, or better yet an exit.
How could we know if you'd be under extra scrutiny? Tor project seems to think the solution to this would be to route everything over tor all the time so that they don't know the difference between what you're doing. Also, in a system where they may be collecting everything always, what does extra scrutiny mean?
>>51360858
so does *buntu, debian, fedora, opensuse... manjaro is shit and it doesn't have a real use.
>>51360858
Wait for the heavy breathing Arch fags to appear and shower knowledge on your ass while you are probably gone and doing something productive
What distro should I run in my home server? I tried Ubantoo server but I wanted to try something else. I use it for Plex, nfs and torrents.
>>51360925
Counting: 1 already, wow
>>51360398
https://gist.github.com/ahodesuka
apply those patches to gtk2 and glib packages.
>>51360943
centOS or debian
>>51360943
centos
debian
recent opensuse leap if you want something more up to date
See here
>>51360870
>>51360199
Fixed
>>51361041
Answered in that thread.
>>51360943
RHEL, CentOS, SUSE, Debian.
>>51360398
>Xfeces
Found your problem.
>>51361218
that's even worse.
>>51361400
it's absolutely perfect and you know it.
>>51360925
none of them have AUR
Stupid question, but how do I change the login wallpaper on bunsenlabs (crunchbang)? and how do I configure it so that it automatically enters my username on the login screen?
>>51361459
AUR is shit anyway. it's just as insecure as PPA.
>>51361459
Yeah but manjaro is shit.
Not even the aur can save manjaro
>>51361497
Sure thing buddy
>>51361497
and fuck PPA
>>51360154
Hey guys, looking for a lightweight distro that's easy on cpu for my laptop, mostly just for web browsing, any suggestions?
>>51361497
>AUR is shit anyway.
This is why noobuntu fags should never be taken seriously
>>51361541
lubuntu is good for beginners
>>51361541
Lubuntu (might lack features due minimalism) Ubuntu MATE or Xubuntu.
Are Illustrator and InDesign still unusable on linux?
I tried it a while ago and I couldn't get the thing to open without giving me an error about reinstalling it (error 16).
>>51361541
LXLE
>>51361566
I hope so, the less adobe the better, imo.
>>51361544
you assume that I use ubuntu because i hate both the AUR and PPA? what's wrong with you? are you defending malware?
>>51361665
>Aur
>Malware
[Citation Needed]
>>51361218
>>51361504
Counting: 2
Angry arch fags are highly amusing
>>51361468
Is #! any good anon? How is it different to debian?
>>51361218
whats the point with the guy with the pipe?
>>51361696
Boy you're bad a counting
>>51361705
Well I have never used stock debian, but I really like it. If you want a really minimal OS/DE then definitiely try it out. I am sure you could just install openbox onto debian but Bunsenlabs makes the configuration much easier.
>>51361729
S A L T Y
A
L
T
Y
>>51361696
>>51360953
Get some ice, faggot
>>51361719
Which one
>>51361745
How about the packages? I just read in their website that they maintain their own repos, does that mean that #! has newer packages? Or an updated kernel? The thing I dislike of debian is being so outdated.
>>51360199
>>51361218
They're both wrong, Slackware needs to be under Dobbs
>>51361774
both , i assume that older one have some logic but the other one i dont get
>>51361674
anyone can upload their shit to the AUR you think everything there is audited?
>>51361778
debian testing is great. not unstable at all.
>>51361802
you are suppose to read pkgfile
but AUR is not about security, same as PPA are not
its about comfort
if package has 100 votes, you can feel pretty safe about it
>>51361822
I never understood debian . If its called Testing isnt it unstable by default? I mean its testing for stability right?
>>51361802
Nobody can upload shit to the AUR, the aur is a repo of makepkg files, nothing else.
which btw you need to manually download, read and compile.
Is pretty simple, if the pkgfile points to a some random shitty domain instead of whatever the fuck upstream is, you just don't use it.
>>51361778
The kernal is old (3.16). About the packages, there seems to be wide option available with the provided repositories. Like I said I can't really compare it to debian since I have never used it. Oh and it is based off of debian jessie
Do I have to have buy a whole other HDD to dual boot if my existing one has an MBR table on it already?
>>51361853
99% of AUR users don't read pkgfiles and just type yaourt and press enter a few times
>>51361861
not if you have free space
>>51361875
yaourt is not in the Arch repo, in fact is not even supported, this is not manjaro, you twat.
>>51361840
debian has 3 "phases": stable(for servers and old people), testing (for normal users) and unstable (for users that like bleeding-edge and are not afraid of fixing stuff)
>>51361861
You should, dual booting on one drive almost always leads to some kind of problems that are a pain in the ass to fix
>>51361840
Being unstable compared to Debian Stable isn't saying very much.
>>51361840
Did you read https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-choosing.en.html?
>>51361875
lol mfw it all comes to the same kind of people no matter what OS , just like in windows next next next finnish ....
>>51361875
Yaourt promts you to read and edit the pkgfile.
>>51361875
>The AUR is shit because people are retards
Nice argument fagtron, you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.
Also >>51361875
>>51361911
honestly I didn't , and I thank you all for your time, especially anon >>51361892
>>51361886
I could only make 2 more partitions. Which means no swap or no separate root/home parts. Both options suck.
>>51361856
Right. I'll check it out. Thanks, anon.
>>51361822
But their website says the security team does not focus on testing. That along has kept me away from stretch. I also read that the kernel is usually outdated compared to stable! Are you a stretch user? Are these things true? I mean, surely testing can't be really unsecure right?
>>51362006
tsting usually is a few weeks older than unstable and has tested packages for these weeks. kernel version is 4.2.0 at the moment and therefore more up-to-date than stable. i use testing and i haven't really ran into any issues.
>>51360154
whats the difference between a windows executable file and a linux binary file?
I tried getting a windows game to run using WINE but it didn't work.
just installed M&B Warband on xubuntu. But i won't launch. It says preparing to launch. then it changes to running then syncing. But the game never comes up. This only happens on M&B cause i can launch Don't starve
Hi /flt/, I'm in need of your help again.
I've just received an Asus A6000, which has the following primary specs:
-Pentium M 760 processor
-512 MB of DDR2 533 MHz RAM
-60 GB HDD (I think it's 5400 RPM, because it's really slow when it comes to accessing files in XP)
I'd like to make it usuable again with a basic Kingston SSD, and adding 2 GBs of RAM instead of 512 MB.
My question is: what kind of distro should I use? What'd be the best choice for it? It'd be used for simple surfing, reading news, etc (nothing serious).
>>51362068
maybe trying it with PlayOnLinux? You can install different versions of Wine, and can install patches too (it made GW2 work like charm with the patched Wine version I've downloaded with POL).
>>51362063
Oh great, the kernel is updated! I'll guess I'll be moving to stretch then. Btw, what DE are you using? is KDE 5 been ported to testing yet?
I got a multiple part 7z (file.7z.001, file.7z.002, file.7z.003, etc.)
how do I merge them or unzip them all at once?
using manjaro
>>51362092
Lubuntu or LXLE would be best. You'll definitely need the RAM upgrade if you want to run Chrome/Firefox and even then they'll run pretty slow because of that ancient mobile CPU. It will definitely work though.
>>51362118
I'm using XFCE. it is: https://skitterman.wordpress.com/2015/07/31/plasma-5-kde-in-testing/
>>51362218
Great, thanks anon.
>>51360199
My order was:
1. Debian
2. Some distro based on slackware
3. Many types of puppy linux, Knoppix
4. OpenSuse, along with the top ~20 distros on distrowatch
5. Back to pupylinux and other flash drive distros
6. Linux Mint, ubuntu, debian
I started with Debian when I bought a used laptop from a university surplus store when I was 7, and I had no idea about the difference between PPC and x86. Debian was the only distro I could get to work well on the orange transparent clamshell laptop I bought.
I had windows on my desktop from when I had a 98 machine, then an ME machine, then an XP machine, then an XP machine that had an upgrade to Vista. After I upgraded to Vista I started hating windows, and someone visiting my church gave me a Knoppix CD. After that I removed Vista and installed many kinds of GNU/Linux, mainly using opensuse. I had almost 30 distros on one hdd.
I only went back to Windows when I got into gaming a few years later, but I kept using GNU/Linux on mobile devices. Now I am trying to switch over to vt-d emulation for games, and I got a eyefinity 6 card to get my 5 monitor setup working on linux.
>>51360199
As someone who has tried every single one of these distros for at least a month in the last couple of years, I can confirm this image is accurate.
I recommend Debian stable or testing to most people I know. The installer is rock solid (although it takes forever) and gives you the option of whatever DE you want. There's pretty much no reason to use anything else unless you want the AUR, in which case go with Manjaro, or better yet, use Architect to install Arch.
>>51361944
>I could only make 2 more partitions. Which means no swap or no separate root/home parts. Both options suck.
huh? swap partition is the old way
now the good way is swap file
and same goes for separate root/home
for desktop it puts you to choice that can fuck you up later, what if /tmp will need to go big for something, what if too much root and not enough home
single partition master race and use rsync to backup your home before reinstall, that gives you same shit as separate home
>>51362303
>apt
>>51362177
Thanks Anon! I also thought the same. I use Xubuntu on my PC, I wanted to install that, but on a second thought, I didn't really believe that it'd have been lightweight enough for that ancient machine.
>>51362334
I've never had any issue with it and I've been using Debian for almost ten years before I started distro hopping because I wanted to try out other distros.
Came back to Debian and I have no reason to switch ever again as far as I'm concerned.
I want to install a linux that's user-friendly, but will also be a great tool to TEACH myself linux more in-depth. I have tried over 25 distros via installing/live-usb/virtual box, but some experienced user input would be appreciated.
I have mostly used Manjaro, Xubuntu, and debian. I enjoy tinkering a bit - I want to learn - and maybe move into something more "involved" once I feel comfortable. However, I get frustrated when things *should* work, but I have to battle with the computer to sort things out. You know what I mean. Also, I'd like a distro that is tolerant to being off-the-net for stretches of time, so updating frequently might be a problem.
I'm getting a new laptop soon, and am thinking of starting with Xubuntu as my first full-time linux:
1 - will I be able to learn linux on this distro, or will it be too spoon-fed?
2 - this distro has no privacy leaks to Canonical, does it?
I do like a rock solid machine, so maybe I should just jump in with debian? I've read it can be about the same complexity as Arch, so maybe I should learn via Manjaro and procede to Arch eventually? Updating might be a problem as I travel, so a rolling release might be a poor choice...
Also, I support the principle of FOSS, so again, maybe debian is a good target...? I managed ok with it before, so maybe I should just start there? Or stick with Xubuntu at first?
I'm just having a hard time figuring out what the best entry-point is for me. As I said, I've "test-drove" a bunch of distros, but a friendly nudge in the right direction would be great,
>>51362448
Debian stable should be perfect for you, you can wait 2 years and still update it.
>>51362448
Arch, gentoo, or linux-from-scratch if you want to learn how to use the CLI. I recommend Arch because it has a very indepth wiki for teaching yourself the basics.
Xubuntu isn't going to teach you how to use Linux, because in the end, if you're assuming that Linux is just the desktop environment or the shell, then you're mistaking the body of your car for the engine and the frame underneath it. The only way you'll ever learn how cars really work is to become a mechanic, which means getting under the hood, which means ditching the GUI completely and learning the command line.
The best way to do this is to just not even install a DE at all, and only install a window manager like Openbox or something similar, along with the X window server, for whenever you need to run a graphical program such as a web browser or something.
>>51362448
I got Arch vibe from you, you did your work (fucking hell 25 distros) and read and write detail shit
you obviously dont suffer from ADHD so that you would be unable to follow some guide...
http://www.linuxveda.com/2015/04/20/arch-linux-tutorial-manual/
but, theres one thing, if you go straight to arch, you wont get to really appreciate how great it is when you dont spend some time in inferior stuff
also beware what notebook you are getting, new stuff tends to not perform well first year on linux, debian probably gets skylake support in 2018
>>51362544
he can just compile 4.3 from source. he wants to learn so kernel versions should not be a concern.
I installed my first distro (Ubuntu Gnome) yesterday and for some reason my logitech speakers (and headphones as well) are not recognized in the preferences. internal sound is working, the soundcard seems to be recognized and I already checked alsamixer. any ideas?
>>51362544
krishna, stop linking people to your blogs instead of the actual Arch wiki
>>51362544
Why the fuck would anyway install arch from some 15 page blog guide? The wiki is up to date, concise and there for a reason.
What is /g/s preferred/ recommended live distro? I have an 8 GB flash drive and using it on recent hardware, so no size/ performance constraints. I just need something safe to boot into when I want to use my uni's worm infested network.
>>51362812
porteus
>>51362812
Tails
>>51362812
kali
I never used mp3 taging or whatever it is called for my mp3 collection
I always just placed them in correct folders and play folder, made playlist of folders and shit like that
I organized on the HDD
but seems that more and more players are pointed towards having mp3 library based on mp3 meta data...
what should I use in linux to fix my mp3 collection, to tag it?
can do it in windows too, if linux lack in this regard.
pls something intuitive, easy to use, not some command line no gui 3 functions written in C bullshit
>>51362926
>>51362943
what
>>51363013
puddletag can whip that in to shape in no time (practice on a sample batch first though)
>>51363039
kali linux
>>51363013
I use EasyTAG.
It's bloated as fuck but works everytime unlike other alternatives i tried
>>51363066
Kali has a specific purpose and that person did not specify any kind of need for that.
>>51363091
>something safe to boot into when I want to use my uni's worm infested network.
>>51363086
>>51363039
thnx
already dealing with puddletag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSOfhQ7UYW4
>>51363086
Fair enough but I've not found anything as flexible and powerful as puddletag on any OS. Use what you're comfortable with though.
>>51363106
Yes, that doesn't imply he needs to do pen testing or need any tor capabilities.
>>51363107
>Linunx
How do I get my android to run screenfetch?
>>51363039
Tails is good for security over an open air network.
>>51363163
If it doesn't work ootb it won't.
>>51363163
not sure if it works without any GNU. maybe screenfetch-c works? https://github.com/woodruffw/screenfetch-c
Ayeee, how do I create playlists, and sync songs/playlists to my iPhone? Using Ubuntu 14.
>>51363306
>iphone
>ubuntu
Suicide yourself™
>>51363318
>/flt/
>>51363521
epic
>>51363521
thats fuckin awesome
>>51363556
>using epic
>in the year 2015
?????
>>51362119
please help
I started using xubuntu for a few days now and I customized it to my needs so far. Shit's cool.
If and when I jump to something like arch or fedora, what am I going to have to do myself as opposed to whatever's already done in a newbie distro?
>>51361541
>distro
whatever
>wm
lxde
>>51363306
>>51363358
ask here https://www.apple.com/uk/support/
If you got an iphone you just deserve it.
More seriously, try : Rhythmbox, Banshee or gtkPod. They should be able to do the job.
else read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/IPod
>>51362119
>>51363618
just extract the first one, same as any other os, it will automatically extract your pirated shit from the other files
>>51363602
>awesome
are you a 13 year old from 1993 in california?
>>51363618
>>51363645
>uk
Disgusting.
Recently trying out debian and I really like it. It respects muh freedomz, which is really neato.
ATM just using it in a VM, but at some point I will need to install it on my laptop (macbook pro). Not sure how much of a pain in my butthole it will be installing all of the drivers. Anyone have any experience in this arena ?
Also I'm thinking of creating a shell script which installs and configures everything the way I have it in my VM right now. Is that sufficient, or should I look into some kind of config management tool like puppet or ansible ? Do people actually do that for their personal machines ?
>>51360199
Debian is no doubt superior to Arch. But I like Arch, it's fun.
Anyone got links on guide on how to rice on Linux like what I see in the desktop threads?
>>51363808
>Macbook pro
Once you get it running, it should just werk.
If you really wanted, you could clone your entire VM's drive into a partition on your macbook, then update grub from the live cd, and that should work.
>>51363763
I'm not even from UK. Just wanted to link to something you could read
>>51363840
read the sticky
read the wiki
check the archwiki for help
check websites and documentation that talks about your DE/WM
ask on the desktop thread.
>>51363892
What sticky, what wiki
>>51360398
>WM, Thunar
The window manager for XFCE is XFWM. Thunar is a file manager.
Is slackware beginner-friendly?
>>51364012
No, it's for grumpy old grandpas who don't trust package managers because they used to be a bit shit in 1992.
>>51363652
but I already tried that and it didn't work
>>51364012
Slackware was my first distro. But that was back in like 1996 when there was nothing better.
>>51363013
I just use rhythmbox directly since it's my music player.
>>51363163
>newfags can't screenfetch
>>51363953
kill yourself
>>51360616
>didn't wanna download a 1GB ISO to fix a bootloader
>7+ Linux boot
What the fuck, are you on dialup or something? Makes no sense to lose all your data because you can't wait like 20 minutes to download something that would help you fix your fuckup. Also, how do you install 7 different Linuxen and have no install media?
>>51364082
>friendly linux thread
>friendly
>>51364175
This is 4chan hun, if you want a hug go to reddit
>>51364175
http://wiki.installgentoo.com/
>>51364184
you're saying that makes it okay to blatantly lie?
>hun
but im not a girl so....
>>51364210
this, it's the best
also just come to the desktop thread and you'll learn
>>51364277
Who's lying, dear?
>>51364277
No, you are not a girl.
Girls have photos of their boobs with timestamps, posted on >>>/s/ and linked in this thread.
How long is your penis?
I have an ASUS X550JX, which comes with a windows recovery partition, which I left intact so I could dual-boot later. However, now when I try to use the key to activate it (F9 on startup), it activates grub. Can I change it so that F9 doesn't activate grub, or otherwise boot that partition? (It doesn't register in the BIOS)
>>51364304
I feel this post violates our code of conduct
I move to dismiss your honor
>>51364366
Nice penis you got there, senpai
>>51363840
>on linux
depends on your distro and wm m8
>>51364366
>>>reddit/r/LGBT
>>51364366
>code of conduct
This isn't reddit.
>>51362334
pretty much the single thing that brings down debian
out of date packages, aptitude and dependency problems.
>>51361899
If you don't have much of a clue how bootloaders work, perhaps.
Can somebody post the updated (!) /g/ recommended software pic please?
Ty
>>51364427
>>>/rules/
>>51364623
>>>/being this naive/
So I've been using Mint for like 3 months. How do I know when I'm ready to move on?
>>51363953
kek read the /g/ sticky at the top for starters
>>51364670
If you don't need to then don't.
>>51364670
I dunno bro, only you can know that. Play with some other distros in a VM and decide whether or not it's worth switching.
>>51364670
When you feel an incredible urge to install gentoo.
Why do I get this feeling Gentoo is just a meme and it is crap compared to Arch?
>arch has a fucking extensive documentation about almost anything you'll ever need to face
>>51364730
No idea anon, you would be very wrong.
I'm a noob who installed arch few days ago and thought everything will just werk
now for no reason after gdm login everything freezes
happens with gnome and also with i3
but it works when choosing "GNOME on Wayland"
and idea how to fix this?
it probably has something to do with xserver right?
>>51364730
>never looked at gentoo documentations
Gentoo goes deeper in some objects documentation wise, i'd enjoyed reading gentoo docs for various software / hardware.
>>51364730
Gentoo is marginally more stable and doesn't use systemd
That's about it, and hell I don't care about systemd
>>51364780
plus a superior package manager
>>51364780
>the systemD meme
My thoughts, exactly.
Should I ever give a chance to Sabayon? I'm stupid regarding Linux, by the way.
>>51364708
Underrated post
>>51364730
>Gentoo is crap compared to Arch
>>51363808
>Is that sufficient, or should I look into some kind of config management tool like puppet or ansible ?
puppet standalone would be good for this but it's overkill. Unless you're really meticulous it's unnecessary. Configuring a new install really only takes a few commands, most of the time spent doing it is figuring out what you want, some is spent figuring out how to do it, and very little is spent actually doing it. Puppet will remember how to do it for you just as well as a text file or writing it down with pen&paper would.
I'd recommend setting up a script for some basics or even just taking notes in a file. You can tar up your config files save those too if you wanted.
Administration was done by pretty simple shellscripts for decades just because it's so easy and quick.
>>51364858
Don't bother, if you want to go towards gentoo then try calculate first or just jump in to gentoo, it's easy enough if you have the time. Otherwise just stick to regular, more stable, binary distros, that's all sabayon is.
>>51364770
>Arch
>gdm
>Wayland
The cancer is overwhelming.
>>51364803
>USE flags
>compiling
>not shit
>>51364925
>I've never installed gentoo and have no idea how much better portage is so I'll meme a lot instead
>>51364925
IMO compiling isn't so bad, just let it run overnight if you need to compile Firefox or something. The kernel is another story. The configuration tool is a confusing and clunky piece of shit and having to dig through millions of options finding the ones you need is annoying. So annoying that you may as well use genkernel, so you may as well use Arch.
>>51364963
>what is kergen
>what is make localmodconfig
>what is using nconfig in the process of genkernel and unselecting a bunch of crap you definitely don't need
>>51365017
epic post m8, bet you mom's really proud
I've been trying to use get macchanger to work for over an hour because of an assignment. No matter how much I try to shut my wlan1 down with "ifconfig wlan1 down" or airmon-ng or whatever, each time I try to change my mac it says "Interface up". What the fuck am I supposed to do here?
>>51365211
sudo ip link set wlan1 down
alternatively post output of sudo ip link
>>51365245
Hm, no dice. ip didn't output anything, I didn't see a verbose option in the manual either.
>>51365284
Wait a sec, I'm retarded. I'll post ip link output soon
>>51365284
are you using anything like NetworkManager because that can be a pain
also if ip doesnt have output something's wrong.
try ip link show? Make sure you have root rights
>>51364359
Samefag here. Help please?
>>51364359
>>51365348
i would focus your efforts on getting Grub to boot your backup partition because its gonna be a pain to install a new boot manager
>>51365329
Phew, got my laptop network running again
I remember seeing networkmanager somewhere, at least "apropos networkmanager" comes up with results
Here's the output of sudo ip link:1: lo: <LOOPBACK,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 65536 qdisc noqueue state UNKNOWN mode DEFAULT group default
link/loopback 00:00:00:00:00:00 brd 00:00:00:00:00:00
2: eth0: <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc pfifo_fast state DOWN mode DEFAULT group default qlen 1000
link/ether 8c:89:a5:a7:1a:6d brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
3: wlan1: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state UP mode DORMANT group default qlen 1000
link/ether b8:03:05:2c:51:4b brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
>>51365456
what distro are you running
>>51365464
Kali for this assignment. It's been a pain in the ass compared to xubuntu IMO
>>51365464
>>51365515
Oh, should probably mention the laptop is a couple of years old MSI. I suppose it shouldn't be the cause of my problems.
>>51365515
i have no idea what kali uses for service management so maybe you should kill it manually.
Anyway disable NetworkManager,
use sudo ip link set wlan1 down,
verify its down with sudo ip link
>>51365547
Thanks, I'll try that.
>>51365547
Damn. Same result as I got with ifconfig. It says wlan1 is down, and I killed everything with "airmon-ng check kill". Took eth0 down too just to be sure. Still when I try to do "macchanger --mac 11:11:11:11:11:11 wlan1" it tells me interface is busy.
I'm pretty much bummed at this point.
>>51365648
>>51365547
Holy shit.
As per https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?2000-Trouble-with-macchanger/etc/init.d/networking stopsolved the problem. I'll still have to figure out how to resume after this, but at least I managed to stop it.
Is systemd to blame here?
>>51360199
What is this puppy-headed distro called?
>>51365721
>puppy
>linux
Puppy linux, surprise surprise
>>51365384
Any ideas how/where to start?
So I'm trying to get grub to boot my custom kernel. It rungrub-mkconfigandupdate-gruband both appear to work fine. However, on boot I get a kernel panic with this:kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0, 0)
Just as a guess, I'm imagining that grub doesn't have all the info it needs on my kernel. Anything I should look for specifically?
>>51360154
I have a question about dual-booting.
Currently, I have three drives: one SSD for Debian, one HDD used exclusively for storing moives and ebooks, and another SSD that's basically unused.
I want to install Windows on the unused SSD and dual boot for reasons (full disclosure: my girlfriend wants me to play Planetside 2 with her and that game only comes with Windows client).
Since I'm going to be using the Windows drive for that gayme and nothing else, I don't particularly care about any potential data loss for that drive.
Is it possible to do something like
>hibernate from Debian
>reboot to Windows and do the deed
>shut it down and reboot to Debian
>pick up from wherever I left off
without breaking something? I don't want Windows doing something stupid like automatically mounting my other disks and fucking them up irrevocably.
Using i3 on a ThinkPad here. How do I make i3 execute i3lock BEFORE going to sleepmode when lid is closed? I tried looking it up but most of the results were for people who wanted one or the other, not both.
I created a Linux Mint USB around a day ago, its neat and all but i would like to save what i do.
How do i do it? should i just install it instead?
>>51365950
Nah, there's nothing to worry about if you unmount the storage drives before hibernating. If it's formatted ntfs or FAT Windows will probably try to mount it.
*Even if you leave it mounted it will probably be marked dirty and windows won't bother.
>>51365875
For those who care, I solved this. Your naming conventions for your bzImage when moving it to /boot/ are important. I'm not entirely sure, but I thinksudo make modules_install installtransfers your bzImage to /boot/. When I used ll on /boot/ there was a kernel image I did not manually put there that matched the size and timestamp of my manually moved version. When I tried to boot it with GRUB2 it worked (almost) perfectly. It booted, which is what I wanted. With a few errors but I think they're fairly minor.
Hi /flt/
I tried to install Debian as a dual-boot to my Microsoft Surface a couple of months ago, but it was way too proprietary for it to work properly.
I asked my friend, who's massively into making all his stuff run on free software, and he referred me to a list of sold-free modified thinkpads from various websites endorsed by the fsf.
https://www.fsf.org/resources/hw/endorsement/respects-your-freedom
They all look pretty good to me, especially the Taurinus X200 (as it's a little cheaper for me with the poor exchange rate for AUD lately). Do you think I should buy one for an intro to linux? I'm thinking I should use it to get a feel for the system, then learn the command line, then switch my distros for the experience (and because I like ricing). What do you think?
>>51365875
>kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable
the
>kernel panic
means that it loads your kernel from /boot fine and then panics afterwards (because it can't mount /). This is what will happen if you don't include the right driver for your drive, for example
>>51366173
>make modules_install install
make is what compiles everything (through makefile magic)
make modules_install installs all of the modules you compiled into /usr/lib
make install literally just copies your bzImage (from /usr/src/linux/arch/x86_64/boot/ or whatever is appropriate) to /boot, but renames it with version info and should rename the already existing kernels with the same name as .old. Also copies /usr/src/linux/System.map which maps addresses to modules and is necessary to be in /boot
It sounds like you mightve been accidentally booting into an older compiled kernel or some other previously existing kernel which was panicking, but the final one you made booted fine?
>>51365719
I haven't used kali but that looks like a pretty normal rc script. Systemd will always(?) use NetworkManager afaik, seeing as they were developed by the same guy. So I'm going to guess it's your fault for not knowing your system!
Try taking a peek at the file so you can tell us what it is and I hope to god you can figure out from/etc/init.d/networking stophow to start, restart, reload, or status it
>>51364175
>>51364277
when you can't read a sticky and check the /g/ wiki, yeah just kill yourlself. Friendly thread or not, being this retarded should not be permitted. And if you're trolling, it's also not permitted.
Anyway. read some linus rants as if he was talking about you.
>>51364481
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications
and use what you prefer.
>>51364770
have you removed a software or anything ? check that xorg is installed and that your config files are setted up correctly
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME#Graphically
>>51365950
you shouldn't have any troubles. Windows won't be able to mount it, and even if it tries, it will says (probably) that the /swap partition is currently being used I think.
Planetside 2 is listed in playonlinux. That means you should be able to install it and run it. You'll have to lower the graphic quality maybe, but it should run.
>>51360154
Literally just got a vm yesterday with Mint. So far it seems alright.
>>51366290
Generally, even unmodified thinkpads will work out of the box with most linux distros. The only hiccup you may have is getting the x-series tablets to rotate the screen when you go into tablet mode.
Ask for more info in >>51363557
>>51366096
If the usb install isn't specialized for Persistence, you'll have a hard time saving your stuff. A full installation might be right for you.
>>51366290
If you're looking to run linux on your Surface, /r/surfacelinux seems like the best gathering. Progress on the hardware is slow because driver development goes through the kernel.
If you want to use separate hardware, I recommend just using whatever you have lying around, or buying some cheap used stuff. Your Freedoms-loving friend might wear his fedora too tightly.
>>51366496
welcome!
I want to switch from Keepass to Pass, but I've never used GPG before. Anyone know of a good introduction to GPG?
>Unity
>Wifi disconnects every 60 seconds, pops up the password dialog
>Gnome
>Same, but once it disconnects it never reconnects
>KDE
>Sometimes works
>XFCE
>Sees wifi, refuses to connect at all
>Cinnamon
>Hit or miss
What the fuck you guys
I just want my laptop fucking to work
>>51366529
>>51366496
Yea, I just downloaded the "manual" they recommend, which it may help with some of the easier things and just to get a general feel of it.
>>51366592
i dont know why a DE would fuck with your wifi settings. sounds like you're trying on different distros
>>51366592
lxde
also let me guess, it's a broadcom card? it's pretty easy to swap em
>>51360199
Manjaro is comfy as fuck.
>>51366592
Drivers are in the kernel so maybe try a newer kernel.
>>51364359
>>51365384
Anyone know how I would go about this?
>>51366592
Try disabling or removing shit like NetworkManager and doing it manually with wpa_supplicant or wicd
is there a halfway decent alternative to curlftpfs yet? that shit is slow as hell for me.
>>51366772
wow how do I get my manjaro to look like that? mine looks like a shit version of linux mint
>>51362530
>ditching the GUI completely
>m'lady
>>51366772
What a fucking eyesore.
Also
>mangina
>le epic William Gibson
>>51366915
It is a shit version of linux mint, quite literally.
>>51366915
I installed the community version that comes with i3 and configured my i3 settings from there.
I'm using Firefox with a custom CSS script for the interface and the appchan x extension for 4chan set to the vim clone theme.
>>51366984
>quite literally
except not. at all
>>51366984
Since when the fuck is William Gibson a meme?
I've been on 4chan for 12 years and it's never once been mentioned outside of /lit/.
Maybe you should spend more time on reddit, kid.
>>51367044
cant believe you took that easy bait
>>51367070
>implying none of us read or know meme from other boards
>>51367044
except exactly
>>51367095
yeah I see how it's bait now. why are people trying to troll the flt? was it posted on /b/ or something
>>51366984
post your desktop then, le a e s t h e t i c
>>51367181
What do you want to see?
>>51367266
Not that guy, but your DE isn't any better desu senpai.
>>51367313
It's not an eyesore and stop pretending your not mr manjarofag faggit
>>51367367
totally epic brosef
>>51366984
>It is a shit version of linux mint, quite literally.
It has nothing to do with Mint, it's based on Arch. It's rolling release, has AUR, not made by the same people as Mint and so on. I guess they both start with the letter M and have green in them, but that's far from being literally Mint.
>>51367444
>It has nothing to do with Mint, it's based on Arch.
Wow you're really on the ball anon
>>51367466
What does that even mean?
>>51366008
still could use some help on this issue, tyvm
>>51366124
>>51366466
Thanks much for the help. I'll try and see if PlayonLinux's version of Planetside works before committing to the Windows route.
>>51367591
>Thanks much for the help. I'll try and see if PlayonLinux's version of Planetside works before committing to the Windows route.
sometimes the game doesn't works directly and you need to play a little with the wine version, or the settings of wine (windows set in windows 7 or xp compatible mode etc.) Nothing difficult to set up
>>51367506
Get on the ball
