GRAPHICS CARD GENERAL
AMD is for the people
>gameworks
>>51354054
NVIDIA SHILLING GENERAL*
Fixed that for you op.
>>51354103
Mad amd poorfag detected
>>51354054
Unfortunately true. Nvidia brought a new generation, AMD brought only rebrands and the Fury. So we have the same old cards sold for 120 € more and people still tell Nvidia is jewing.
3.5 is shit, 960 also, but AMD doesn't do anything better. I would look into Furys if they had 8 GB, but not 4, 6-8 is perfect for my resolution.
Currently sitting on a Titan X and waiting for Pascal.
>>51354079
Yeah that great, exclusive feature to nvidia that is just another bullet point under their large repertoire?
>>51354145
He doesn't want the truth.
380(X) = 280X with reduced memory bus (WTF??!!!)
390(X) = 290(X) OC Tri-X 8 GB
Pro tip: Get the old 8GB Tri-X as long as you can. Otherwise go Nvidia.
>official Linux support
This is where I stopped reading
>>51354213
That's how AMD is though. They release 2 new cards and a bunch of rebrands priced more competitively. They can't afford the r&d budget that nvidia has.
It's unfortunate, but that's just how it is at the moment. Things might change soon though, they've certainly improved massively on their drivers.
Also their cards might be rebrands, but they are certainly priced very competitively. I've seen 4gb r9 380s go for $175, for example.
And the 380x isn't a rebrand.
>>51354276
And you're saying that Nvidia don't do this?
>>51354303
Never said that.
Gtx 670 was rebranded as 760.
Gtx 680 was rebranded as 770.
Gt 640 was rebranded as 730.
Gt 520 was rebranded as 610.
Both sides do it, but AMD uses an architecture much longer than nvidia.
During the lifetime of GCN, we've had keppler and Maxwell, and we're going to have Pascal too.
Personally I lean towards AMD when buying my gpu but that's mainly because they tend to perform better or the same for less money.
Hd 7970 vs gtx 680
R9 290x vs gtx 780
R9 390 vs 970
Why do people buy AMD when they always perform worse and are nothing but problems when it comes to gaming which is what they are meant for? they look nice in paper they have amazing specs but they perform like crap in gaming.
Buying what work best is best for the consumer buying AMD makes no sense, if you really believe AMD will ever catch up to Nvidia you are delusional, the best thing that could happen is AMD going under and someone else buying the Radeon division probably Realtek.
If you own a Nvidia card you would know that they are bottlenecked by the memory width and the only reason why Nvidia does this is because there is no reason to improve over this because even when AMD plays catch up Nvidia can sill be laid back about it.
At this point, if you are buying and shilling for nvidia, you are supporting a monopoly in the graphics card business. Nvidia already fuck over their own customers with gameworks and shit, how do you think it will be if amd becomes anymore irrelevant?
>>51354438
Because performance isn't black and white you dipshit. Not everybody wastes their salary on a gaymen-PC
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2883752/components-graphics/tested-nvidia-geforce-and-amd-radeon-graphics-cards-for-every-budget.html?page=8
>>51354103
>>51354503
>Not everybody wastes their salary on a gaymen-PC
And then you proceed to link a article about wasting money on a PC.
Is this the logic used by AMD buyers?
>buying from anti-consumer companies
>>51354530
Are you unfamiliar with the term "budget"?
>>51354555
Read >>51354438 again.
>>51354598
Are you all out of arguments since you're starting with the redundancy already, as if someone missed something?
>>51354617
Read >>51354438.
>>51354438
>Buying what work best is best for the consumer.
So then why buy Nvidia?
I got a 670 instead of a 7950 and I now regret it so much. Nvidia is crippling my gpu with tessellation for placebo effects, and the 7950 has an extra gb of vram than my 670.
Coming from a hd 5870 to a gtx 670, I regret trying nvidia. My next upgrade will be r9 400 series.
Fuck nvidia.
>>51354054
This image is so shit. The original C vs. C++ one is so much better and you ruined it.
>>51354669
>Nvidia is crippling my gpu with tessellation for placebo effects
Yes lets blame the nvidia boogeyman amd can't do wrong ddespite the fact that this is almost 2016 and they can't into tellessation properly tottaly nvidia's fault.
>>51354669
By your logic we should be blaming AMD for Nvida's cards not being able to run DX12 games properly.
>>51354687
One does not remember Crysis 2.
Newfag :^)
>>51354714
Reminds me again but wasn't that part of the engine and there was no work around?
People on the beyond3d forums talked about this and turns out the news about tessellation used in the whole word were exaggerated as fuck, they actually did some in deep investigation about this problem and they came to the conclusion despite the water being tessellated it don't gets rendered if the plane isn't been seen by the player so it really didn't impacted performance that hard.
>>51354704
Please expand on that.
>>51354745
What about random objects subjected to extreme tessellation like road blocks?
>>51354747
DX12 and Vulkan are based on Mantle which is designed with AMD architecture in mind and if trying to run it on a Nvidia card would be a disaster, this is the same reason why Nvidia didn't adopted Mantle, because AMD won't allow them to modify it despite offering it to them so it would actually run worse than DX11 if they adopted it.
>>51354213
>280/380/x all beat 960 at better price
>290/x/390 beat 970 at better or same price
>fury gets fucked by 980ti on 1080 and equalizes on 4k
Only nvidia advantage is the highest end, which they strategically released just before AMD's new imperfect architecture to fuck with AMD.
>>51354762
Same as the water I was going to include it in my post but I figured just covering the water which people claimed was the actually performance hog would be enough to demonstrate my point.
>>51354779
But why use so much tessellation on a concrete road block no one will notice?
There are much more noticeable things to tessellate...
>>51354794
Engine limitations.
You guys are not realising that Nvidia is cancer for PC gaming
>>51354811
>Every Console has AMD hardware
>Consoles are holding back PC gaming as a whole
>Suddenly it's Nvidia's fault.
You people are crazy, bad in the coconut.
>>51354805
Then why tessellate it to begin with?
My old hd5870 can not handle tessellation well at all, so i know this would just kill my gpu, even though it's still performing competitively overall.
75-85fps battlefield 4 high settings 1080p.
>>51354827
There was no workaround I believe you better go to beyond3d and search for that thread and read it since I can't remember.
>>51354054
> Linux official support.
Fuck you OP. Fuck you.
>>51354841
I searched but all I found was a bunch of forums about people bitching about it.
Any chance you can link me?
>>51354811
>Nvidia works with devs
>Most ground breaking physics engines wouldn't exist without Nvidia
Without NvidiaFlex for Killing Floor 2 I'd kill myself.
>>51354054
Who Intel onboard graphics master race here?
>>51354825
> consoles are limited due to MS and Sony, more you invest= better hardware
> gameworks shill, limiting PC gaming due to it being patented and not open source like TressFX AMD's technology
> gameworks technology is not backward compatible, buy new cards every year
> over pricing cards
I can go all day
>>51354883
Nvidia pays them that is gameworks, working with them to degrade performance on AMD us faggotry
>>51354054
So do Titan cards become outdated when the new cards come out? Or do only new Titans outperform the previous generation's Titan?
Looking to build a new PC soon. Should I wait until the next generation of cards come out?
>>51354362
Are those rebrands usually cheaper?
>>51354936
>gameworks technology is not backward compatible
but it is?
>>51354974
Pretty sure a 680 would cost more than a 770?
The card went from high end to mid range.
>>51354936
>not open source like TressFX AMD's technology
You can't even read the source let alone it be open source,
Where did you get this information? as a matter of fact most AMD only features are also closed down.
They are free to use but not open source as you claim.
>>51354992
>>51355007
Now go to the AMD SDK website and see what the license agrement says, which is what matters in the end.
you have been shilled by the amd is open source crew
>>51355007
This
NvidiaFags
This thread is filled with Nvidia shills who don't know shit, gtfo from this thread kids
>>51355015
https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2015/05/12/tressfx-hair-cross-platform-and-v20
Go on, have a read.
>>51354983
I think he means it runs like shit on old gen cards.
My gtx 670 is still powerful enough for every game i play maxed out, but i doubt it can handle gameworks.
>>51355064
AMD TressFX is as open source as Nvidia GameWorks.
https://developer.nvidia.com/gameworks-sdk-eula
https://developer.nvidia.com/what-is-gameworks
Did the disastrous fermi fires cause nvidia to step their game up or did amd get complacent?
>>51354992
Pretty much this. Gamework features relies heavily on shaders/tessellation so there's no perceptible performance hit on Nvidia cards.
AMD suffering just happens to be a byproduct of poor tessellation because architectural differences of GCN. AMD is trying to fight back with their own proprietary features that uses raw gpu power but they're all resource hogs and reduce the fps dramatically.
>>51354054
I have an AMD card and I'm poor. Which Nvidia one should I use instead
>>51355345
Depends on budget
Different prices have AMD better for price/performance, different have Nvidia
>>51355207
Bs test
No proof
>>51355207
>no perceptible performance hit on Nvidia cards.
sure. try to play witcher 3 with the original settings on something like a 970. the only purpose of gameworks is to artificially lower FPS so people buy new cards earlier due to the psychologic effect "oh shit i cant max it out anymore"
>>51355434
Best case would be 200 AUD but I can go to $300 if needed
>>51355518
That's what happens when you have unrealistic expectations of a mid range product. There's a reason why a 980 ti cost $650 and a 970 cost $250.
290x
9
0
X
Seeing as how EVGA is having a big back stock sale, should I grab a 980 for $350? I'd be upgrading from a 560 ti and I really cannot stand to wait any longer for new tech.
>>51354516
The faggot on the right doesn't even know what a graphics card is or who is Nvidia.
Stale bait.
>2016
>Using desktops
>Using Nvidia/AMD
>Not Intel Iris Master Race
Stop feeding electricity to these power hungry monsters you call graphics cards. Further who the fuck carries around their desktop in this day and age when you spend most of your time outside the house travelling and attending meetings?
Amazon pls
I want a 4gb 380 please just discount it for black Friday already
Stop discounting the 2gb versions
>>51354276
>tfw 4gb r9 380s are always $300+ CAD, no sales ever
Gawd, this thread is cringe-worthy
If you're going to measure a card's performance based primarily on gaming, go complain about it on /vg/
Otherwise, how about a clear answer on which is better for Linux
>>51357986
Intel is best for Linux.
Steam uses Nvidia exclusively on their Linux based steam machines.
> tfw you know they haven't installed gentoo when they use nvidia cards
ayy lmao
>>51357738
My 560 Ti 1GB is holding me back in FO4
Why didn't I buy 2GB
>>51357779
Do you really think he doesn't know?
>>51355598
>That's what happens when you have unrealistic expectations of a mid range product. There's a reason why a 980 ti cost $650 and a 970 cost $250.
> 970 cost $250
If the 970 cost $250 it would be out of stock literally everywhere because muh SLI. Its $350-$400.
Utter technology pleb here: should I really buy a video card if I don't play games at all?
>>51360094
>tfw 660 2GB but I don't play games anymore
>>51360536
970 is always $290-$300 in the US now. Used are getting down to $260. http://www.evga.com/Products/ProductList.aspx?type=8 B stocks are $250 here.
>>51360536
>>51360700
What is that site?
>>51360094
You should definitely be getting better performance than my 6870. What settings are you using and what kind of FPS are you getting?
>>51360700
That's... that's a pretty good deal.
>>51360887
60, unless if it's a problematic area like Diamond City entrance and stuff
I want 2GB+ because this game has issue streaming textures, some objects are stuck at super low res textures.
>>51360887
>>51360921
I forgot to mention it's on 1280x720 windowed, medium preset, with bokeh, minus motion blur, god rays completely disabled.
>>51354054
tfw I just bought a Geforce GT 610 for my main computer
Internet, 1080p yify and HD footy stream's are all I need ;), ps4 for rare gaming, get at me.
>>51355345
Geforce 9800GT if you have the budget.
Any news of Radeon 380x ? IIRC it was supposed to be out today
So... 970 or R9 390?
>>51361034
3[spoiler]80[/spoiler]
>>51354438
>Radeon division probably Realtek
>chinks in charge of anything
They'll fuck it up even more
>>51360941
>>51360921
I get 50-60 usually @1600x900 on low. Dips when loading assets and while in Diamond City of course.
God Rays have to be disabled in the ini and the ini set to read only afterwards or the game will automatically set them back to low which will hurt your frames. Definitely wan to turn off vsync. An anon on /v/ is running a slightly OC'd 6870 and managed to squeeze ultra textures out of his, but what his framerate was, I couldn't tell you.
So anyone have an opinion on the 960 vs. the 380?
Or is that too situated strictly down fanboy lines?
Basically I don't have about 300 bucks, would prefer not to spend every sent of that, and don't want to need a new card next year anyway.
>>51361773
380X this Tuesday, bruh
>>51361882
Everyone on google says it doesn't officially exist but will probably come out last month
>>51362482
XFX and Gigabyte accidentally leaked the 380X existence last month on their website. It's rumored to come out this Tuesday.
My Nvidia driver took a shit and now I can't get windows to properly recognize the GPU (GeForce 755M). I've tried clearing and reinstalling multiple versions of the driver but nothing works. I've considered upgrading to windows 10 if there's a small chance that'll fix it.
You guys have any suggestions on how to fix this?
>>51360954
>i have one
>tfwit stutters at 1080p 60fps
>>51354238
>380(X) = 280X with reduced memory bus
The 380 is a 285 with higher Mhz.
The 380x is going to be the chip of the 285 but with all the shaders etc., plus a probably even higher Mhz.
But WHERE is the 380x? Goddamnit, AMD, you were supposed to reveal it today.
>>51354438
>>51354598
>>51354633
>Why do people buy AMD when they always perform worse and are nothing but problems when it comes to gaming which is what they are meant for?
What a stupid, stupid, stupid question. My HD 7870 says something entirely different.
Why are you even on this fucking board? Goddamned you are a giant cunt, I rarely seen this big.
>>51362527
>>51361882
>Tuesday
Reveal was said to be today, the 15th and custom cards on the 19th.
>>51362862
>But WHERE is the 380x?
Ask apple.
>>51354054
latest nvidia drivers fucking crash my system
>>51354238
nigger.
280x was the last of its kind
380x is based on Tonga 285 card.
285/380/380x are completly different than 280x.
and the 380x will probably compete with the 970 but it will have real 4GB memory and actual DX12
>>51363002
> 380x will probably compete with the 970
It won't - it will sit inbetween the 960 and 970 where Nvidia has nothing.
>Figure its time to retire my r9 280x because 1440p monitor
>Need sometimes ultra quiet in idle and d-dvi connection
>Decide to try out nvidia for the first time
>Msi gtx 980 ti
>Amazing scores in benchmarks and very quiet
>Try out a game
>30-50% gpu usage while my 4790k sits around 10-20%
>This happens in every single game
>Find out that many people have this problem
>problem been around since the 900' series came out
I've literally tried everything. fresh windows install 7,8.1,10. bios update, countless NVC settings. There is even a change.org petition to make nvidia acknowledge the problem. Nvidia doesn't seem to care though.
https://www.change.org/p/nvidia-officially-acknowledge-the-low-gpu-utilization-bug-many-customers-are-experiencing-with-the-gtx-970-and-gtx-980-graphics-card
inb4
>It works for me
>Its obviously your weak ass 4790k that is the bottleneck
What a load of garbage.
>>51363083
actually.
PassMark
Radeon R9 M395X = 5,611
GeForce GTX 970 = 8,651
And since the 380X is the M395X but with higher clocks, more ram and more GCN or shader units or w/e they put into graphics cards, it is estimated that it will be very close to the 970.
>>51354772
>beat reference cards at a higher price
fixed that for you shill, the 970 is $250 and beats the 390 easily. so easily that it's competing with the 390x.
>>51360536
970 is $250 on b-stock right now and there were reference models for $220 yesterday
>>51363221
this, i get rid of my 970 because of the "varying spikes in GPU usage" just wont go away
and also pic related happens every now and then
>nvidia shills will defend this
>>51363323
Wow, reference 970s cost 315€ where I live, that's $340. wth
>>51363277
I see.
>>51363446
>call of duty
so that's what all you AMD shills like to play
>>51363474
>i-i-i-it doesn't count!
>>51363446
i hate people who cherrypick buggy and bad ports to proof something. by this i also address you morons using fallout 4 as a pro-nvidia example.
>>51363509
that benchmark is comparing reference gpus to factory oc'ed amd junk
try again, shill
>>51363221
I had to change the driver settings to force my 980 Tis to work they way its supposed to by making it work full load at all settings. There is a video some guy made to fix the Nvidia drivers for H1Z1, but it works for most games as well.
so is freesyns as good as gsync? i ended up buying a gsync monitor and loved what it does for the response time, everything feels smooth as shit. however the monitor looks like shit so i'm selling it and now weighing my options between going 4k ips gsync or going AMD/freesync.
>>51363509
Cards running at stock speed. Son, essentially everything you can buy right now is OCed. Especially the Nvidia stuff as Temps tend to be lower so manufacturers usually are able to add 10-15% performance while AMDs offerings are closer to the reference as most manufacturers (except Sapphire and a few Powercolor) are unable to handle Hawaii/Grenada in maximum BBQ mode. The reason for this might be that morons like ASUS just slap coolers designed for Nvidia on AMD chips and expect it to work.
>>51363535
None of those cards are overclocked - they are all at reference speeds.
>>51363629
all 300 series gpus are factory OCed
>>51363646
Technically, no.
>>51363664
I CAN'T HEAR YOU! LALALALALA NVIDIA 4 LYFE! NVIDIA 4 LYFE!
I love how majority of every problem in FO4 is related to Nvidia even with new drivers and coop between Bethesda and Nvidiots
>stutter problems
>g synch problems
>fps/hz problems
>crashes
>graphical glitches
>>51363705
>>51363664
there aren't any 390 or 390x reference models, all of the ones you can buy right now come with aftermarket coolers and factory OC (over the rebrandeon oc)
oc vs oc, nvidia wins very easily.
>>51354054
always remember: the nvidia drivers that PHYSICALLY DESTROYED GRAPHICS CARDS were WHQL certified
I'll probably wait for AMDs next line-up. I'm using linux so I want something that works with their new AMDGPU linux driver. So far only 285/380/Fury are supported and I don't need that powerful gpu.
>>51363323
b-stock?
>>51363256
hopefully. that place is a nice sweet spot. no wonder the 970 sells so well
>>51363804
EVGA eg. does this. They sell returns and refurbished cards with 1y warranty without or less accessories. In EU you can buy a non-stock 980 now for 420 EUR. The same model has a regular price around 530ish. But honestly I dont think it's worth it. So many (especially high-end) GPUs have died for me without any apparent reason after 1-2y...
>>51354054
>He doesn't know about the coming revolution in drivers putting amd as master race even with Linux using vulkan or whatever it's called
>>51363981
I wish I had the patience to wait, my 6870 would have been sufficient for another year on lowered settings at 1080 it is on par with current generation consoles.
I'll wait to see what becomes of AMD with DX12, vulkan, and VR before upgrading my 980, not the best decision I've made for the money.
Even then I am waiting until 32~42" 4K displays are cheaper and 4K 60fps on a single card becomes a thing.
For the time being I'll just have to bide my time with VR@2160x1200 and triple monitor 1080. I hope to squeeze in 3 years.
>>51357795
Gtfo
>>51354054
>The way it's meant to be played
Breddy gud
>he fell for the 970 meme
LOOOOOOOOOOOOL
>>51361882
It doesn't even look that good spec-wise, slightly suped up 380 with a big overclock.
is the gtx 950 the best value card currently?
>>51365495
The 950 and 270x are the same and cost about the same. Used r9 285 about the same price and is better.
>>51364451
Single card 4k for less than $1000 wont even be next year. Maybe q2 2017.
>>51365495
oc'd 960 is
How well does the GTX 580 hold up? I'm sketching build ideas on a budget and a friend is offering me it for 70£, saying it's better value for money than a 750ti (what I was looking at) and will run Fo4 @ 1080p 60fps on med.
Is he con artist /g/
>>51366278
it's better but not that much better, if you buy used try to find a 660ti or a 770 as they're still decent gpus and go for about $100-150 these days (not sure about europoor prices though)
>>51354922
this isn't even good trolling
>>51365739
Glad I got my 670 when I did
I hope nvidia stops patent trolling so apple will start using their gpus again...
>>51365739
It will be with pascal. Mark my words. 980ti is already acceptable performance with 35-50fps @4k high - "ultra" settings are usually placebo
Never bought a video card before, when's the best time to buy? I see some places have some decent offers now, but is it better to wait for Black Friday or even sometime before Christmas or should I just bite now?
>>51366719
As an experienced jew the best time to buy is before black friday. If you see a better deal on bf you can always return the higher priced one.
>>51366601
New cards mean heavier graphics. Fallout, Witcher, and its looking like Fable legends are really heavy as it is.
I'm done with AMD, upgraded to the latest driver to play FO4 and my computer crashes constantly now.
Useless piece of shit.
>>51367594
another satisfied customer!
IT JUST WORKS
I bought AMD this time because I don't approve of what Nvidia is doing and the 390 was a better card than the 970.
>>51367769
AAAAAYO YO SO YO-
*installs one year old driver*
SO YO ASS TELLING ME NVIDI-
*mouse cursor corrupts*
AITE AITE SO YO MOTAFUCL-
*buys 1700w psu*
YO PHAT ASS BETTEE NOT BE TEL-
*cranks open window*
THAT NVIDIA WIT-
*orders fire extinguisher with prime shipping*
AIGHT AIGHT SO THAT DRIVE-
*turns gpu fan to 100%"
DEZ MOFUCK NVID-
*waits for ccc to install*
U BE TEELING ME DA GTX
*turns down tessellation*
YO AIGHT AIGHT THAT GEFORCE
*shitposts about gameworks*
>>51354879
Holy shit that highlight function is fucking trash. Does it always have a handle that blocks the fucking text you're trying to highlight?
>>51367954
>>51367999
Damn man. That sucks. Hope those trips help tho.
>>51367904
HOL' UP
*buys aftermarket cooler*
YOU FINNA SAY
*manually disables visual effects*
YO BITCH ASS TRYNA
*buys another case fan*
NVIDIA GONNA
*buys a UPS*
FINNA ADD
*crosses fingers that the game doesn't crash*
SOME BITCH ASS
*waits several weeks for drivers for a new AAA game*
GRAPHICAL FEATURES???????
*shitposts about hairworks*
>>51367904
>>51368063
you idiots cant even blackpost correctly.
>>51368101
Sorry for not knowing basketball american vernacular
>>51368063
>waits several weeks for drivers for a new AAA game
This is inaccurate because amd never release driver for specific games
>>51367594
It's not AMD's fault you're too tech illiterate to do something as simple as uninstalling a driver.
>>51368148
GIBS ME DAT
*annual driver release*
AYYYYE AYYE HOLLA
*game profiles finally out*
Y'ALL NVID
*still doesn't work*
YO DEZ GAYMEWORK
*heavy perspiration*
>>51360738
>not knowing about slickdeals
It's like you're going out of your way to hate yourself.
>>51368252
What the fuck is wrong with you, no wonder he's right about you being a retard. Quite frankly, I'm shocked somebody like you wasn't euthanized at birth.
>>51360700
Lmao, can pick up r9 290 with full usable 4gb vram and 512 bit, for $200.
>3.5
>>51369774
>housefires
async shaders
well cya
>>51369796
that's the VRM part, titan X also reaches 100-ish temps on the vrm and memory ICs
stop being such a manchild
>>51369836
>damage control
>>51369836
Titan x didn't even have a backplate.
>>51369868
Forgot pic, lmao.
>so much bitching
>no advice giving or rational discussion
This was not my dream for /gcg/.
This is why the OP shouldn't start with a shill pic.
>>51369879
>implying there's a chance for a /gtg/ thread not to turn into a mess.
>>51369908
Usually doesn't turn out this bad.
I have an Alienware 15
Thinking after a few years i can get the amplifier and put it whatever's the latest graphics card
>>51365411
What utility is that? The Win10 System Information looks completely different
>>51365411
Please tell me this is real.
I really want some 380x reviews or info. Oh well, AMD dropping the ball again
>>51354054
>AMD fags cant take a joke edition
>>51370239
>If the GPU ends up delivering the same performance as a R9 290 while being cheaper
Fuck review sites that do this.
380x is meant to be faster than a 380, not a fucking 290.
Gtx 650 wasn't even faster than a gtx 260.
http://techfrag.com/2015/10/22/amd-radeon-r9-380x-disappointing-performance-info-leaks/
>Nvidia
No uh son you need to stop the shit now you autistic fuckbucket! You need to get shreks green nvidia theme dick out of your ear cause its affecting your brain son. Stop shoving those green money sign dildos up your shitter and stop paying Huang so you can give him head too. You need to stop the bullshit or toned your shit dude and stop sticking your finger in your ass and smelling like a retarded monkey. The key is price to performance son you don't got that you don't have shit you see here physx = fail, nvidiaworks = fail, shield = fail, titan = fail, and more you get picture faggot. AMD been winning since start your just to braindead and busy suckling the cum from Mr huang dick to see it! Now you can control that raging hard on in you pants for nvidia!
AMD is fucking garbage. Everything they make is absolutely, objectively crappy as shit and only a fat neckbeard would buy this shit-tier crappy shit because he's afraid of running out of autismbux (because God forbid he spend less money on Taco Bell and Mountain Dew.) I tried building an AMD gaming rig once and it was the worst experience of my life. First off, that CPU clip is fucking impossible to use. It looks just like an old Pentium CPU clip, but it's autistically retarded and I couldn't deal with it. And the graphics card was so fucking huge, I had to cut a hole all the way around my case to fit it in. Fucking AMD.
But wait, that's not even the best part! When I tried to start up my shitty autismbox (which I sold to the Association of Retarded Citizens BTW) the absolutely massive power draw dimmed every light in my house and throughout the entire neighborhood like I was firing up fucking ENIAC in the 1920s or some bullshit. I had plenty of time to worry about my power bill too, because this shitty thing couldn't figure out which of its 32 CPU cores to use and it took half a day to boot. As soon as I tried to play a game (fucking Starcraft from 1998), it lagged so hard it went backwards. I thought I should try downloading a driver, but there aren't any. There are no fucking drivers. What the shit, AMD? No wonder Apple doesn't use your shit. It wasn't long after that that I realized this thing was putting out more heat than a goddamn jet engine and it burned my house down.
Two weeks later, when I sold that piece of shit, I built an Intel/Nvidia rig! Holy shit, it's like jacking into the Matrix! I built it 5 years ago and it still runs every game in 4K at 240 FPS while using no power and it actually cools my house during the summer. What a beautiful machine, I seriously hope none of you are poor and stupid enough to buy AMD.
>>51370297
>>51370324
I am 80% sure this is the same person.
>>51370345
daily reminder
>>51370352
I'm 30% sure you're the same person posting from phone and computer to get away with samefagging.
>>51370379
I wish ;_;
don't have a phone at the moment, waiting for an LG G4 in the mail
>>51370373
Most powerful amd cpu is 5ghz you fuck.
>>51370397
> 5.0GHz
>>51354438
This. Buying AMD is retarded.
>>51368148
>he needs to uninstall old driver before installing new one
lmao
>>51354054
>official Linux support
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYWzMvlj2RQ
>>51370453
No need to get jealous anon.
Some people have even gotten higher ;)
Silly Intel users.
>>51354598
>>51354633
You make this thread look messy as fuck.
>>51354054
What runs cooler and quieter?
GTX 970 or a9 390?
>>51371973
Cooler - 970. Quieter - None. More powerful - 390.
>>51371993
Woops, I meant to say a9 380*
Does that change anything?
>supporting Jewvidia
>>51360357
he looks gay.
so, no. they only buy macs.
Triggered
I own a 970 but the 3.5G thing might be a problem in the future alright. Do you think that with DX12 with another 970 in SLI will solve this since memory will be unified?
>>51372037
You can't really put The Witcher 3 there, hairworks could be disabled and wasn't essential. Plus tessellation/AA factor could be lowered to make it run on AMD better, and it wasn't all that pretty anyway.
>>51372042
/thread
>>51373054
Are really stupid?
I got a Zotac GTX 970, like 2 weeks ago or something...
Zero complaints I literally never hear the card, runs very cool
Is there anything better than a gtx 960 for around the same price? I'm planning a build but don't really know much about the AMD side of things.
>>51373741
wait for the 380x to drop
>>51363646
There is no factory OC you fucking retard, the reference speed is the base. If it come out of the factory with a certain speed, that speed will be the base speed and therefore it cannot be an overclock.
>>51373735
I literally never hear my 290X VaporX either, that's a terrible metric to use.
970 is a bad choice due to 3.5GB, bad ports will continue, like it or not and Arkham Knight uses 4.3GB at 1200P...
Even a 980 is a bad choice for the future.
For anyone else reading this, if you don't want to buy into AMD - that's fine, either get a cheaper 960 4GB and replace it next year or buy a 980Ti and keep it for a longer time.
Both Pascal and Arctic Islands are coming, 2016 is gonna be a BIG year for everyone.
Fallout 4 look like a 7 years old game, and yet it have some performance problems, since it caught the Gameworks cancer.
>"god rays" that do absolutely nothing absolutely cripple frame rates
>tons of other hidden effects that do little to nothing
>in a game with laughably few shadows, if any
>game renders hidden objects that can't be found and removed until the editor is released at an unspecified time next fucking year
>constant fog is rendered everywhere, even in buildings, and it causes a massive performance hit
>very likely that there is a global ocean under the ground everywhere that is X64 tessellated unless you manually force it lower in your GPU control panel
>this ocean is rendered 100% of the which just wastes GPU processing cycles like in Crysis, another Nvidia sponsored game
>the game engine itself is laughably poorly threaded
>compiled so poorly that even a 4.5ghz Ivy Bridge i7 is performing worse than 3.5ghz Haswell i5
>literally no explanation for this as the architectural differences don't add up to a performance gap this large even in synthetics
>>51373901
there is no reference model of the 390 or 390x, retard. they're just rebadged 290s with factory overclocks. even then, the 970 still beats your factory OCed trash for half the price.
>>51374271
>Both Pascal and Arctic Islands are coming, 2016 is gonna be a BIG year for everyone.
only big for nvidia, amd have already confirmed another round of rebranding and taped out arctic islands 7 months after nvidia taped out pascal
>>51373735
What the fuck are you saying kek nobody ever mentioned noise or something, was talking about the vram
>>51374303
>underground global ocean that renders constantly
Do devs actually do this? That's slimy as fuck
I've got a 7750 but want a temporary upgrade till Pascal, should I get a 7970 or a 960?
>>51363981
Knowing AMD, this will be another major disappointment. I have an AMD card right now and if I could just buy a cheaper AMD GPU to upgrade with I'd love it, but none of their cards are powerful enough. Back when I bought my last card Nvidia was literally burning people's houses down so the choice was pretty easy, but it's not so cut and dry anymore.
>AMD
I just want to upgrade from my ancient gtx 260 to something midrange so I can use a 4k monitor eventually and watch Chinese cartoons and pay games on decent settings, should I go for a r9 380 or a gtx 960? Is 4gb required?
>>51375585
>4k monitor
>Mid range
Have you even looked at monitor prices
>>51375585
you won't be playing games at 4k with those cards. the best you'll be able to do is upscale from 1080p on medium settings
>>51375596
>>51375620
gtx970 or r9 390 then?
>>51375669
the only viable 4k card currently is the 980ti, the fury x is bottlenecked by vram and the 970/390 don't have the perf to keep up
>>51375669
if you have a PSU over 650w get the 390.
>>51375678
Really? I mean I don't need max settings, just mid to high at 4k would be plenty impressive for a casual like me.
>>51375697
Even the 980ti struggles in more demanding games at 4k. 4k just isn't viable for single GPU set-ups at the moment, 1440p is more of the sweet spot for that.
R9 380x for Bull Friday please
>>51354054
I have an i3-4130 no GPU never needed one for my light gaming.
I want to play Battlefront 3, GTA V and maybe Fallout 4. What GPU should I get that's good enough to play those games at good FPS with no CPU bottlenecks. Is a 380 too much?
Should I get a R9 fury or a GTX 970?
>>51376202
both are bad
r9 390
arguably an EVGA b stock 980
How does 380x TDP compare to 380 TDP under full load?
I have a 450 sfx psu and an i5 4590.
Will GCN 2.0 in baffin and ellesmere still have shit tesselation?
>>51376364
If AMD's cards change to do tessellation better (they probably won't because AMD thinks tessellation is stupid, which it is, hope you enjoy your tessellated concrete, AMD thinks shaders is where it's at.) then nvidia will change tessellation. Or make up some new goyworks features to gimp AMD cards with.
>>51376221
why are they bad?
>>51376415
Goyworks aside tesselation will be necessary since it's a superior method of distant LOD with less pop in isn't it? I don't know what else Nvidia could do without some break through.
>>51376493
In theory tessellation is okay. Problem is it's not used for LOD pop-in.
>>51376488
fury is overpriced for it's performance and the gtx 970 has Problems™
So according to this thread I should buy a 960 for my next PC even though the R9 380 is better for about the same price
Redpill me on AMD /g/, why are they apparently so bad?
>>51376493
lod is still almost exclusively mip-map based in real world games. Sure you can find a GPU stress tester that tessellates things like roofing tiles and cobble stone streets : but the reality is that for almost any title, you can create very convincing LOD textures with mipmaps and some parallax mapping and have no where near the performance hit tessellation provides.
>>51376532
Well they say AMD runs hotter and louder, thats about it really
R9 fury or GTX 970?
>>51376532
the 960 is actually superior to the 380 and 280x once OCed. most benchmarks showing AMD cards as having superior performance are dishonestly comparing OCed rebrands to reference nvidia cards.
>>51354054
You ruined one of my favorite images.
When will a third player show up to make the game mroe interesting?
Alright I am about to upgrade my old ass computers GTX 560 ti with a EVGA GeForce GTX 950 SC+ 2GB
My question is there anything I need to worry about before I pull the trigger and buy the 950? This will be my first time updating anything on this PC since 2012! thanks.
>>51354103
OP is right tho. Have an AMD (7870) card and yes, the drivers suck, yes the whql driver is way too fucking old.
And if we talk about drivers...
AMD LOVES TO FUCKING LEAVE PEOPLE IN THE DIRT.
One generation and boom, off you go, fuck you, buy our new card.
Meanwhile I can still install a pre-historic Nvidia card driver on a new Linux distro or Windows 10.
I mean yeah sure, let's say it costs 10-15% more. But you have a supported card for 5-10+ years.
>>51354054
nVIDIA with dem Kepler gimping, horrible unstable drivers, fake promises, weird support with Async Shaders...
deal with it, each of them have a fucking flaw...
I bought a R9 380 and a Freesync monitor over the summer, best gaming experience I've ever had.
>>51354213
But Nvidia gimped their new generation, also they've been cutting off driver support for cards that are only a few years old. Also they're forcing everyone into the Geforce experience botnet forever while AMD is releasing a whole new QT based driver control panel that looks great.
>>51373217
>you can't put something completely wrong in an meme image
you're browsing the wrong website friend
I haven't bought a graphics card since the gtx 660 was a thing, fell behind the market and stopped keeping up because poor
I'm thinking about getting a sort of mid range budget but not too budget card, am I right in thinking this is a really shitty time to buy?
>>51376858
Isnt there some company called Qu?
>>51354054
I ordered a MSI 390 the other day for $299
>did I fuck up?
>>51378050
> No replies
It's arriving on the 18th. Thanks /g/
