Hey /b/ I'm trying to make a budget gaming pc for around $400ish. I'm mainly confused as to what processor I should get. Most people have been recommending the i3-4170 since it's relatively cheap and powerful. I'm wondering if there are any other good options either Intel or AMD. I'm hoping for 1080p and around 40-60fps for most modern games.
>>51316894
>Intel
>budget
Good goy
>>51316894
amd 860k
mother boards for it are cheap and the cpu is cheap.
>>51316894
Highend A10, don't really think there is much opinions in sub $400 category
>>51316894
Nigga you need to AMD with 400$
You can get the AMD A10-7850K APU and not get a gpu for now and play at 30-50 FPS and then get a gpu later on.
>>51316924
This
>>51316894
3258+950
your welcome
>>51316894
X4 860K + ( GTX 750 Ti or R7 260X )
I'd recommend x4 860k and r7 370
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PVN699
You're welcome.
Would a GeForce gtx 750 ti 2gb be better than the r7 260x?
>>51316894
http://www.logicalincrements.com/
>>51316894
GO amd faggot, get a fx6300 and a Nvidia 750ti superclocked, ..leaves u $200 for mobo,ram.psu,box,hd....it can work
>>51316894
read the sticky. http://www.logicalincrements.com/
go with the $432 build (or better, of course)
>>51316894
How about this?
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
This is the cheapest I can do for you without getting absolute trash OP, and I'd suggest you move up to the r9 270 4gb.
>>51316894
>/b/
GTFO.
>>51317415
the link won't work like that. you have to use the permalink at the top.
>>51317435
whoops, good catch.
here you go
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/F6JyhM
>>51317339
that cpu is dogshit senpai.
>>51317495
thanks for saving me money pal
>>51316894
A8 7650k+ddr3 2133 ram.
bought an i3 4170 and am very satisfied, built a budget gaming pc like you. the g3258 is a meme, you need at least 4 threads for modern gaming, google benchmarks comparing those 2 cpus.
the other choice is some fx or amd 860k but their sockets are dead, the intel got better single threaded performance, and i've heard that you pay more for amd mobo or whatever.
don't listen to the AMD shills, they're dogshit.
Get the i3.
>>51317590
Proof.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023
2 core Intel CPU going toe to toe with 6-core and 8-core AMD CPUs.
>>51317590
I3 cpu may be faster but if he gets the apu he has a decent gpu now and can get a better one later.
The i3 igpu is dogshit.
>>51317212
Yes.
>>51317618
he said modern games, so you cant assume he will be using the igpu
>>51317212
get a 270(x)/950 if you can. ideally save just some money for the 380
>>51317613
>http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2015-the-best-pc-hardware-for-fallout-4-4023
The i3 is actually more expensive than fx-4350 and 6300 it should compete.
>>51317659
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/f7mDYJ
The apu should be able to provide 40-50 fps on medium settings.
That's the apu build, I'll try an i3 build, I'm not a shill, I'll try both options and see which one will offer the best performance within ops budget.
>>51317727
Nope
FX8350 - £138
FX6300 - £80
i3 4130 - £91
Those prices are from the amazon links which I assume to be fairly typical prices
>>51317794
Nope what, I said the 6300 and it is cheaper. The 8350 is stronger and will be in line with non k i5 cpus.
>>51317738
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Pm6DYJ
Personally, I'm leaning towards the apu, but it's up to op to decide.
The i3 build should be a little faster, but the apu is still cheaper and offers better value.
Also, if you're on a budget op, go with a 900p screen. Barely any difference when gaming but much better performance.
>>51317738
A8 is like a pentium and a r7 240 put together its shit. Expect something more like 720p low settings at 40-50 fps, not exaggerating.
Her you go OP. Just a quick thing. Managed to sneak in a R7 370 instead of a 750Ti
>>51317738
im not a shill either friend
and now that im thinking it it's hard to fit an i3 in a 400$ build, but still that apu is weak.
>>51317957
Barely any performance difference between a10 and a8.
Watch this video of jayztwocents playing battlefield 4 on medium settings.
https://youtu.be/Cv57qDXpEPU
>>51318045
I'm not even going to deny it, the apu is weak, but on ops budget you don't think it's better to get apu now and then add a better gpu later?
$300 for apu build, leaving op with $100. Give him a month or 2 to save up while playing on medium/low and he can get an r9 380?
>>51317993
i can vouch for this build
>>51318079
Its a $50 cpu and a $50 gpu stuck together for $95. Its equal to my phenom ii I bought in 2009. At least in that sense its better than the Athlons people are suggesting.
For $400 bucks you can do a build with a new i3, or an fx with a r9 270, r7 270, or 750 ti for twice the gpu and cpu power. If you got a used like he should in that price range you could get a sandybridge i5 and 280 or hd7950.
>>51318280
Fuck it. Fuck this. Fuck i3, fuck apu.
Op, go on the used market. Grab an i5 750 and overclock it. Grab a used hd 7950 or gtx 670.
Better yet, get a workstation with a second or third gen i5, upgrade the psu and gpu.
Don't expect anything good brand new at this price range.
im running i3 4170 with r9 380.
games are working just fine on 1080p
>>51317993
>50$ for a case on a budget
wut
>>51317993
Don't get the case and give op a 380 instead.
OP unless you need the computer now I would wait so you can build a 700 bucks computer.
>>51317738
APU are fucking shit you fucking shill.
Nobody on /g/ ever and I mean EVER recommends APUs.
>>51316945
This or for a little more you could go with something like this http://pcpartpicker.com/p/XcTMsY
>>51318423
why not get a used xeon/1st gen i7? even a 1st gen i7 is more powerful than a modern i3
How does this looks for you guys?
Z97 Mobo
I5-4460
GTX 950
430w PSU
>>51319806
>why not get a used xeon/1st gen i7? even a 1st gen i7 is more powerful than a modern i3
Depends. In perfectly threaded use cases like rendering, yes. In applications that focus more on single-core performance, no. Nehalem to Haswell is a pretty huge jump.
>>51319957
Which z97 motherboard? The Gigabit one is the cheapest, I think.
That processor would probably do, although overclocking it to at least 3.5ghz is a good idea.
GTX 950 will probably do you for most games on 1080p. 960 would be better. You could go AMD for your graphics card, but the GTX 900 series has dx 12 support.
Which power supply?
>>51319806
>>51320064
New games are starting to do more and more multicore work. For future-proofing, something with >4 threads is probably best. Although at this point in time, the difference is marginal in most games.
>>51320071
GB-Z97X-UD3H-BK
I'm not really looking for 1080p@60FPS@Ulta/max settings, just a videocard that works better than the IGPU.
EVGA 430W.
>>51316894
Buy a PlayStation 4.
I'm serious. This is not a troll post. You will be more happy with a PlayStation 4.
>>51320101
Anon no offense but I've heard that for literally the last decade.
>games will very soon need n cores
>multithreading is the future
>this new foobar technology changes everything and makes many cores necessary
And yet here we are, in late 2015, with hardly any games running better on 8-core AMD chips than on 2-core Intel chips despite the former being present in the mainstream consoles for the last couple years.
>>51320107
Ok. In that case, the 950 will likely do you and be decently future-proof for upcoming games.
Have you checked out some of the recommended hardware for games you plan on running?
>>51320188
Yes, High settings at 1080p on recent games i want to play, and i can max out games i really want to play (Red orchestra, etc.)
>>51320187
Kek, fair enough.
It may be that most games will continue to run off of virtually one core for years to come, and there will continue to only be a few examples of the alternative. I guess it comes down to how much you want to spend future-maybe-proofing your build.
Unless you actually need a PC and a gaming solution, youd be better off with a PS4 at that price point IMO
>>51320188
I might be able to get a GTX 960, is the difference between the cards really that big?
>>51320287
Really the only difference is a faster core clock and memory clock. That does bring some fairly significant increases in performance, though. Here are some benchmark scores:
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+950&id=3295
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu.php?gpu=GeForce+GTX+960
Since the price is around 20-60 dollars difference, I'd recommend the 960.
>>51320395
Here where i am from aparently there is a $12 difference between the 2 cards.
Still im not even sure if i should buy the GPU yet, i will be using a CRT screen for a while because i cant afford the screen yet so there is no reason to buy one right now for me.
>>51319957
Go for h97 mobo. Z97 is for oc k i5.
Unless you want features from z97 mobo.
>>51320455
Lol, well, having a gpu does take a load off of the cpu, regardless of what it is putting out on your screen.
And if you're planning on eventually getting a better monitor, why wait on the gpu purchase?
Also, black friday/cyber monday are coming up. Good sales on most everything.
>>51320540
Because i want to buy the screen first before the GPU, GTX 950/960 have no VGA ports.
Also i want to buy a nice 21~23" Screen.
I know, the only problem is im not from the US, Mexico haves "Buen Fin" ("The good weekend") but sales aren't that great.
Im going to wait to see what i can get of amazon mexico this black friday anyway.
>>51320583
I live in Canada, and so I kinda know how you feel. Everything is marked up around $100 more when outside of the US border. So I order parts online whenever possible. Amazon is good.
>>51320583
Also >>51320495 raises a good point. I didn't realise you were planning on a locked cpu.
Unlocked is just better imo, because when it becomes outdated you can overclock it to keep up with the newer cores.
>>51316894
Does intel design vaporwave album art?
>>51320629
I indeed plan to upgrade to a I5-4690K later on, but wont be soon.
Who knows, maybe i will ended switching to a 1151 Motherboard based on what it gets if 1150 dies, but right now i need a PC that works, my all in one PC is dying.
(Motherboard problems, you cant reset it, only turn it off, HSF is loud as fuck and not even under full load, Hard drive has failed me once and to remove it is a pain, cant add more ram because SO-DIMM DDR2 is expensive,2 of the 8 USB ports don't work anymore, SD slot is dead, etc.)
So i kinda want to get another PC fast for this winter but black friday prices wont affect me that much so there is not really point in waiting.
I tried to focus on the motherboard and the CPU, all the extra money i get will be to focus on the PSU and the screen, last priority will be the IGPU because Intel HD 4600 is better than my actual IGPU anyway.
>>51320708
>last priority will be the IGPU because
My last priority will be the GPU*
I hope my old Triniton CRT still works.
>>51320708
>>51320752
>trinitron
Kek, wow anon.
I guess in this case the cpu's integrated graphics would suffice until you get a monitor.
Speaking of, are you planning on a 1080p monitor? They're around the $150 price mark at cheapest, from what I can tell.
i5-4690k is a great processor.
>>51320860
Yes, i want to get a ASUS VS239H-P, they are $150 in the US indeed, but in mexico they are $200~250.
>>51320904
This here is listed as free shipping and ~$130. Can you order from US Amazon or is it impossible?
http://www.amazon.com/VS239H-P-1920x1080-DVI-D-Back-lit-Monitor/dp/B008DWITHI
>>51320904
Also pic related, my CRT monitor from 2006~2008.
I wonder what are the odds it turns to fire or damages my motherboard.
>>51320956
I can, but i have to pay importing costs which are around $40~80.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rhdb3C
Thoughts on this compared to a ps4?
>not picking FX 6300
The fuck is wrong with /g/?
The shitty single core performance won't matter in games too shitty to use more cores but having more cores will boost performance in modern games.
>>51320996
Overpriced PSU and case. Shitty GPU. Otherwise fine.
>>51320996
Shit motherboard brand.
Somewhat overpriced PSU.
You can get a better case for the same.
>Seagate.
>>51321065
>2015
>still hating on asrock
They make perfectly solid stuff, anon.
>>51321083
>Get my sister a cheap ASRock H97M motherboard
>Died 40 days later.
Her MSI H81M is still alive after all this 6 months.
Hey. What about an Alienware Alpha?
- $400 currently
- 2.9 GHz i3-4130T (not wuite 4170, but good)
- Maxwell GTX GPU 2 GB GDDR5 (comparable to 750ti)
- No building a PC
I know this locks you in place and prevents most future upgrades (except an SSD replacement or something), but if you are helping someone buy a budget gaming rig you could save yourself some effort and get a good price.
Anyone else agree? thoughts?
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ppKwP
Enjoy gaming in Full HD/high details, way above any console. If it's too much over the budget, consider saving a bit on smaller HDD and upgrading it later, saving on CPU cooler and being molested by stock one and generally saving money.
Buying any card below 960 is retarded. If you plan to play modern games in non shit details, you will be forced to upgrade and waste money twice.
>>51321155
>muh anecdotic experiences
>had 3 asrock mainboards
>oldest one works for 6 years, never had problems with others
>had 1 MSI
>died after a year and had shitty castrated bios
>move to another country, leave my pc at home
>want to build a new pc
>mfw I realize I'll have to build it from scratch again
>>51321212
Overpriced trash in a cool case.
>No building a PC
Even assuming you are a complete idiot and your biggest accomplishment so far was connecting an USB thumb drive, it takes like one, at worst two hours.
>>51321239
I built my computer. But I don't want to help EVERY one of my friends build theirs if I can get something just as good for no effort.
What do you think about the SPECS? Ignore the alienware part of the name, I give no shits one way or the other about that,
>>51321282
They should be enough to play most modern games on settings similar to a console aka. low/mid <60FPS, although some like Ass Creed Unity would let it shit itself.
Also obviously not future proof.
>>51321333
hmmm. The whole point is to help them reach pc mustard nirvana, so not hitting higher performance than consoles would make me sad.
>>51321405
Your best call is building it yourself then. Or if money is not too big of an issue, to buy a more expensive complete PC, though I bet it would be about 150-200 bucks more.
Hell, even if you build it yourself, everything ~400ish would be very similar performance if you buy new parts.
>>51321462
Ya their budget was the limiting factor.
Otherwise I would have told them to just go i5, 960 gtx, 8gb ram and called it a day
As for building it myself, I was having trouble finding a good motherboard that supported 1150 that wasn't like $120. Everything cheaper seems to have some wildly varying reviews.
Then again.... I do have a microcenter in brooklyn I haven't visited yet.
>>51321529
is that some kind of alien fleshlight?
>>51321529
Large Hadron Collider, bro
>>51316894
its real simple, the highest aka the latest version of each i series is the only one that matters
thers literally no reason to pander over 5 dollars within the 3 5 or 7 series
the i3 costs 120 for the 4170
the latest i5 is 200, the i7 is 300
your RAM is going to cost 50$ for the cheapest name brand 8 gigs of ram
your PSU is gonna be 50, just get the S12II 620 an you'll never have to worry about it again
your case is gonna be about $50 for the 200r
your mobo can be 50$ as well, check around and see if any new gems have been ranked but Toms Hardware had the MSI E34 as their favorite non-atx board
its a micro so it uses vastly less and procudes less heat
so thats
50 = RAM
50 = PSU
50 = MOBO
50 = CASE
200 = roughly assuming you wait for free shipping
plus if oyu get the 200R case filter kit from demcifilters you wont get any dust in it from the top an sides an shit, ahve the PSU pulling from within rather than out
you could also spend 50$ on a noctua heat sink an keep your CPU temps down a lot less than the cheap stock fan will
then you can get an i5, just search for it CPU world and see what the latest socket 1150 i5 was, and get that version, go with the non-K version its cheaper and your not going that on a fucking budget build anyways
the haswell graphics are as good as a mid-card GPU, especially when you lock 1 gig of ram to it in the mobo settings, then you can eventually save up for a dedicated GPU
you can ADD and replace GPUs a shit ton easier than CPUs
>>51321623
Cheapest I5 is $160.
>>51321623
HEY! That MSI E34 is interesting. I would have normally passed on it because of neweggs shitty reviews, but hey, other people like it.
Also, that 200R is pretty.
>>51321657
>cheapest
there buying a fucking cheaper i5 is a waste of time
its the same number of threads as the i3
theres literally 5 total 5 and 7s faster than the i3
you're wasting your money buying anything but the latest version
