Are dedicated portable media players dead? After smartphones and music streaming took off, it seems like no one wants them anymore.
Pretty much. Some people still use them, and I did until mine died. I just use my phone for everything now.
>>51287870
Godamn I miss that.
Dropped it on the street and the HDD fucked. Got it in bits somewhere and always wanted to repair it with an SSD conversion but never gotten around to it.
Say what you want about how "I can put muh music on muh smartphone", but they're still absolutely useless for music unless you're looking right at the screen all the time since they're all touch-screen controlled and you have no idea what you're going to be pressing because of the lack of tactile feedback.
Also, my music player with Rockbox can play way more formats than my phone can.
>>51287870
I literally want to get one because battery life and phone jack die in my pockets faster then you can say niggers tongue my anus toh.
>>51287870
>phone sound quality sucks compared to dedicated audio player
>dedicated can usually hold more
>no more listening to music and some fuckhead calls you cutting the song and forcing you to fumble with wires to answer it.
>>51288280
The volume rocker is enough for me to control my player from within a pocket during a commute. Short press to adjust volume, long press to skip tracks. Anything else would require looking at the screen with both kinds of devices.
>>51288280
I don't even have to reach into my pocket, I can control the music from my watch.
i use a small mp3 sansa clip to workout, run, or when i go to say an amusement park. phone is too bulky for working out and dies far too quickly for all day events.
>>51288312
Wait wait hold on, your last bullet. Smartphones handle that transition MUCH better than separate gadgets
>call comes in
>music pauses itself
>start talking immediately if there's a mic on your headphones (stock ones include that)
>take phone out of pocket if not
>music restarts when call is over
The separate items is the fumble city.
Though standalone PMP always wins on cost, battery and storage capacity.
Yep even the Sansa clip+ is the same price of a a unlocked smartphone with better menu options and sound quality
>>51288389
Yeah but
>Be listening to separate player
>Call comes in
>Fucking ignore it and continue listening to music uninterrupted
>>51288473
>Fucking ignore it and continue listening to music uninterrupted
I fully support this anti-social behavior.
>still no good music player on android
I still love that sturdy old mp3 player with usb. Battery lasts forever and it just won't break. Greatfor running
Vlc for Android can play any format of video and audio,
>>51289178
>Greatfor running
This.
I tend to only use my sansa clip nowadays when jogging.
My phone has completely replaced it for listening to podcasts. It's so easy to just stream podcasts over wifi/4g with Antennapod. I used to use Juice Podcast Receiver along with Synctoy and a script to transfer podcasts to my Sansa Clip, but not anymore.
Picked up a Sansa Clip+ for $20 years ago.
I need a replacement (which can use Rockbox/SD Cards) - All other devices either suck or are too expensive.
HALP?
>>51289178
>>51289248
Spotify is the PERFECT player for running. They even have a feature dedicated to it.
https://www.spotify.com/us/running/
I still use both my iPods circa 2007 and 2006 I don't understand how people can use their phones, it kills the battery and I have more than 4gb of music anyways
>>51289317
my phone isnt the perfect player for running
>>51288324
Activator on iPhone? Otherwise you're gonna have to tell me how you did that.
>>51288280
this x1000
i NEED tactile response with my music player. with my ipod classic I can reach into my pocket and pause/skip etc by feel.
Or even better, when I;m in my car and I have it hooked to the radio, I can skip without ever looking off the road.
My iPod Classic died tonight :(
What should I replace it with ?
>>51289373
Another hard drive
>>51289373
A mSATA disk
>>51289346
Android mustard race
>>51289373
>>51289373
>>51289427
>>51289409
Tell me more. How is the fixing process ? Is the iPod easy to disassemble ?
>>51289465
If you dont have the right tool you might bend the shiny metal backing a bit, but its only cosmetic. its pretty easy to get in there and replace it. I did ti to mine here >>51289322 and its been working fine since
>>51289479
I might do that then, thanks !
>>51289373
Link: http://amzn.com/B007PR8NQO
>>51288473
>not keeping your phone in silent all the time
It's like you want people to hear your shitty anime OP ringtone
>>51289284
>went to rockbox site and looked at all the stable and unstable players
>all of them look like cartoon bomb detonators and are either discontinued or over $100
is rockbox another ebin /g/ meme? what the fuck is this shit?
>>51289679
Well because of how diverse portable music players are, they can't make a 'one size fits all' version of the firmware. So they basically have to build a new OS for each one of those devices, which takes a few years to get it working and even longer to get it working stable.
An old ipod or sansa clip shouldn't cost you more than 40 dollars.
>lost my zen years ago
>lost my 160gb ipod this year
>now pmp's are dead
great, i didn't want to listen to music anyway
phones have a shit battery live and barely any physical buttons. i just want my ipod classic back
>>51289778
>i didn't want to listen to music anyway
I feel like shit because I don't listen to much music either.
Fuck.
>>51289679
Rockbox is only good if you have a lot of vanilla-OS unsupported formats like FLAC.
I still have my nano, maybe it's time to bust it out again
>>51288280
i can control the music from my wireless headset faggot
My sansa clip+ got run over by a car. Dropped it while fumbling for my phone, didnt realize for a few minutes as it sat there on an intersection.
Anyway, started using my Galaxy S4 for my music until I get a new player. Honestly, I dont feel like I need new player anymore.
Sansa clip is way more expensive now and playing music uses negligible battery until you turn on the screen. I have podcasts and audiobooks, so I never notice the battery drain.
Also, updating files over wifi is much nicer. Honestly, once I got the right apps, I was kinda better off. Maybe dedicated players have a use on the high end, but on the low end, getting a $30 prepaid smart phone and using it as a player is probably better.
>>51288473
why bother having a phone in the first place?
>>51288354
I got a sony live view thats perfect for this sort of thing, shit was $20 and only good for time, messages and music
>>51287870
I'm thinking of buying a Fio X1 when my ZuneHD dies. I prefer not to have music on my phone as there isn't enough space on it.
>>51289464
I really wish the Zune wasn't joined at the dick to the Zune software, you can't transfer ANYTHING without it, and the way it does it is probably the most convoluted and asinine process ever, you're forced to either create playlists or have it sort everything by artist, and there's no way just to have it transfer and store/navigate everything on a by-folder basis using your music directory structure
The hardware was amazing, but they fucked it up royally in terms of getting your goddamn music on it. It doesn't even register as as mass storage drive or use MTP either, you either use the Zune software, or it's essentially a brick, who the fuck thought that was a good idea?
>>51290185
same feelings about my ipod touch 5g
Such a great gadget locked down still by Itunes shit
Foobar plugin is hell, mediamonkey a shit, musicbee not supported.
Fuck my life up family
>>51289916
S4 is pretty decent player, the S5 and S6 are slightly better if I remember right.
You'd be surprised what with the lack of sound quality in most high end players. Most high end players are worse because they lack parametric EQ.
30-40 hour battery life is hard to pass up though.
>>51289679
Remember back when /g/ was buying 3rd-party non-UL listed "Catleap" Korean monitors? Opting-in to Rockbox at this point is that same level of /g/ ebin memery. All the good players have been discontinued and are either the victims of eBay markup, or nonexistent on eBay entirely because said-discontinuation put everyone in a panic ever since the Clip+ was axed last summer
The Rockbox team isn't looking into any other players, and despite having a big array of supported players, the Sansa Clip+/Fuze line and the frankeniPod family are the ones that are actually getting active development, and anything else is at the mercy of the community to port/fork and improve, and that one faggot on the forums who uses a do-it-yourself Android avatar will bitch and moan about how you're the cancer killing the Rockbox community if you question the abandonware status of your firmware of choice
That's not to say it's a BAD firmware, if you have the right device, it's great, and a 128GB microSD card can turn a Clip+ into your last great media player, but the community is a mix of indifferent devs who are unaware that their supported hardware list is on legacy status, with assorted pockets of every Stallmanesqe neckbeard faggot stereotype made manifest
I love my Clip+, but I'm fully-aware this shit's on borrowed time, it's my second one ever since the OLED died, and with hoarding and reselling getting even worse with no new manufacturing happening, I know that a point and time is approaching where if your Clip+ dies in the future, that's a media player permadeath
>>51289409
>Ayy lmao
Yo fingers nigga, wtf?
No
Just as how smartphones haven't killed portable cameras, smartphones haven't killed music players. they've simply become more niche
people who want to take quality pictures will invest in a camera
people who want to listen to a large library of good quality music will invest in a music player. especially moreso now that more phones are trying so hard to deprecate sd slots
>>51287870
More or less. They're not really necessary anymore. Most people just stream everything and if you really want storage you can just get a smartphone with a microSD slot.
>ipod classic on one battery replacement already
>warily watching it for signs of hard drive death since it's coming up on five years old now
it was so perfect, why did they kill it
>>51289464
Mein nigger
>>51290185
What the fuck are you talking about? You have the option to sync your whole library or pick specific albums and just sync those.
Although i agree with needing the zune software for transfering music is bullshit, it is a really nice player, my current foobar set-up is an attempt to recreate zune player.
>>51290406
Handhelds should not have hard drives.
fuck am I old?
>>51290571
Kids born in 2000 are already having sex. Kids born the same day the Nintendo 64 came out are in college now.
>>51289317
How do you run with your phone? Holding it? Putting it in the pocket? Or strapping it to your shoulder like some kind of faglord?
>>51290484
I don't want to sync on an album basis, or any of the shitty autoplaylist or Smart DJ garbage it insists on for transfering, especially since a quarter of my music is a bunch of various mixes where folders have a fuckton of unrelated songs in them, and trying to do anything with them just throws the songs all over the place either by artist or by album, putting them everywhere but the one place I wanted them - the original fucking location they were in
I wanted it to where there's a 1:1 copy of my music folder on it - folder structure and all - and from the menu, I can see my entire library arranged exactly the way it is on my computer, and can navigate through folders as if it was in explorer. The Zune can't do this one basic feature, and as such, fails hard on something Sandisk has been doing for a decade
what are some PMP with solid state drives?
>Sony A17
the Walkman lives again...
The Fiio X1 is a good, cheap option and it has a great DAC to boot.
Build quality is also better than the iPod classic
>>51288389
>>start talking immediately if there's a mic on your headphones (stock ones include that)
>(stock ones include that)
>using stock phones
>>51288377
>or when i go to say an amusement park
How often do you go?
Seriously.
Do some people go that often that it's a valid enough concern for their daily life to plan around it?
>tfw my clip+ died
>>51288473
FYI desu this guy meant to say that you don't notice incoming calls nearly as much when listening to a separate player.
You won't be able to hear it so you'll just have to trust on not moving at that very moment to feel the vibration.
I have missed many calls that way. Though you can always just call them back.
>>51289322
You have a nice taste in music, I had no clue Eno did anything with David Byrne.
>>51291113
Mine died yesterday I think. I tried to turn it on and it won't anymore.
Goddamn it was amazing.
I feel for you.
>>51291113
>>51291187
How long did they last?
Mine bricked itself after like 4 months of light usage.
Maybe the mistake I made was getting a refurbed one off ebay? Guy still sells them by the butt load, so maybe I just got a dud.
>>51291113
mine still turns on fine but the audio jack is fucked, sometime it works sometime it doesn't
>>51291205
Over a year and a half I think.
I want to get a dedicated player just for my car. Used to have an iPod classic 120GB model but some nigger smashed my window and stole it out of the car.
I still remember fondly my first mp3 player.
This little thing was the sexiest of its kind back in the day.
Sure, it only held a cd's worth or so of songs, but it was a cd that I could change around whenever I wanted.
I miss physical buttons, and this had them all along one side for one handed operation.
The magnesium body felt so good when it was cold.
>>51291205
Lasted about two years, and I dropped it on the pavement one too many times.
>>51287870
nah mane, my Sansa Clip is amazing.
What do anons think about the M3? It's supposed to be shipping out to stores and be available next week. No opus support on none of their products a shit. I lost my FLAC collection and only managed to salvage my opus encodes off my portables.
My clip + is on borrowed time, I had to get the contacts for the power button soldered.
>>51291626
>64GB max
dropped
I still have am iRiver iHP-140 with Rockbox sitting unused on the side. Shame.
>>51289143
Shuttle is pretty lit desu
>>51289284
Just get an old used Android for $50
I have this in my drawer but it's only 2gigs so I'm using my phone now
>>51291761
hnnnnng
>>51288312
the sound hardware is literally the same on both devices. the battery life and storage are really the only advantage. but honestly now a days you can listen to pretty much anything on demand via mobile network so having both makes no sense to many.
>>I have more than 4GB of music
>USB-OTG flash drive
>phones now have up to 128GB internal storage
>old phones can be saved and used solely for music with airplane mode on, extending the battery life.
>>51291842
>USB-OTG flash drive
This means you have to bring your USB cable + usb stck with you everywhere
>phones now have up to 128GB internal storage
Yeah, for 1000+ $
>old phones can be saved and used solely for music with airplane mode on, extending the battery life
>going around with two phones
>>51287870
I still use my ipod classic 120gb for long commutes to avoid draining my phone battery.
Also at night to listen 10/15 minutes of music before sleeping.
I leave the phone in another room to avoid the temptation of browsing 4chan or youtube, and use the pmp that has none of that extra things.
>128mb
>1 AA battery
>can't even buy the cable or SD cards for it anymore outside of thriftstores
>only defect is the battery hinge
>put rubber bands around it to keep it in place.
>still works perfectly after all those years
>>51291814
>streaming music
>>51289322
Mind if I ask you the advantages of rockbox over the default firmware?
>>51291293
Nostalgia thread? Nostalgia thread.
I still remember my first mp3, also a Creative although a "cheap" one.
When it died I tried a lot of different unkown cheaper ones, but they all died in one year.
iPod classic still alive, never had to buy another one.
As much as I hate current apple trends, I have to say they used to do sturdy and durable stuff.
I always use my PSP.
Still do, mainly for ASMR while I go to sleep.
>>51289916
>podcasts and audiobooks
I always wondered about that what do you listen to?
>>51288312
>Phone sound quality sucks compared to dedicated...
My S5 sounds as good or better than the $1500 stereo system in my truck, with appropriate headphones.
>>51292391
>going around with two phones
What's wrong with that?
>>51287870
I know this guy who walks around with a portable cd player
So these portable media players, like old iPods and Senses - do they actually have audio card in them?
What I am asking is, I have Nexus5 and wondering if one of these would have better sound with my Sennheiser earbuds
I have not heard audible difference between high end phones
>>51289322
well i just use a 64 gigabyte microsd and listen to 128 kbps opus on my phone. it works fine and doesn't kill battery either (where did this meme come from). flagship phones have shit battery life stock no matter what, but music players don't burn that much battery on their own. my phone goes for four or five days without charging (rooted, de-googled tmobile lg optimus f6). i use my phone every time i hit the gym or go jogging, with is at least a 2 hour routine every other day. i remember having to charge my ipods every single night and i didn't even workout then. i might could understand if you said something like a sansa clip because those last weeks at a time and charge in a second but a fucking ipod?
>mfw audio jack on my sansa clip is starting to wear out after 4 years of loyal service
I've got an ipod classic 160gb that only produces sound in 1 ear, how hard is this to fix?
>>51292561
>not creating an ftps server to stream music off of
>>51293548
are you sure that isn't your headphones? also check your settings. i am pretty sure ipods have the option to listen in one ear, left or right, and for some reason it may have changed
>>51288952
Then why not just fucking set your phone to block incoming calls when you know you're not going to answer, come on man.
I still have my Cowon J3 from 4-5 years ago, when it dies no matter what I get as a replacement it will not be as good
>>51291109
maybe he likes to be amused
>>51293564
>not creating an ftps server to stream music off of
Teach me your ways senpai.
>>51293496
anyone
My phone has 128GB of storage and it just werks. No need to use another device.
>>51294027
Ask /hpg/
>>51293887
its actually pretty simple. for windows get something like filezilla server, open any port you want to connect in on (the default is 990 for ftps, 21 for ftp), in filezilla settings change shit on the ftp over tls tab (be sure not to press 'require tls resumption because for some stupid reason, probably botnet so they can intercept your transfers, this wont work on android), and then just connect to the server with the format ftps://(ip address). most file managers have an ftps/ftp plugin. opus is not detected as a format in lower versions of android (4.x and lower) for some stupid reason also. probably other formats this is a problem too. you can still play the opus files in supported players but you wont be able to press 'download and open with' on .opus. i dont know what all limitations ios has so cannot comment on that, and haven't transferred my server over to linux yet since my linux box is still running off an hdd which i plan to change soon so dont know the exact steps or good software to replace filezilla server (as it has no linux port for some stupid reason). i know in linux you can actually mount ftps servers as a disk. yeah, cool as fucking shit. but i dont know if it is possible in android (FOR SOME STUPID REASON) as i haven't found a way to do so. if you can manage that though, the 'download and open with' issue wont be one and you could stream seamlessly between songs. its not as perfect as streaming software so i dont really recommend it, but its what i use (because i have nothing better to do and want to justify all these servers)
>>51294392
I'm on linux, I can run http server with python though.
But my browser just try to download it.
>>51294466
some music players like VLC allow you to stream from an HTML website
Got a Fiio X5 a while back.
It's definitely louder and supposedly a lot better audio quality than anything on the market.
Still use my phone when I'm out, too much hassle having to carry around a bunch of shit in my pockets.
>>51294958
It's pretty nice that it has dual SD card slots as well.
>>51288280
You are a fucking retard
>>51294927
yeah, but i can't navigate with VLC right?
>>51294980
I have long press on my volume buttons on my phone set to previous and next track and long press of my power button as pause/play track
Is there an android music player that lets me long press volume keys for track control?
>>51294958
Oh yeah and fucking Spotify is too damn convenient... and you know sometimes I wanna listen to NEW music.
>>51294987
i dunno, ill get back on you when i make my own html server ;) FOR SCIENCE
>>51295000
I use Xposed additions in Xposed Installer to do that but you need root, etc.
>>51295009
ugh fucking normies
>>51288389
>separate items is the fumble city
>I lack basic multitasking skills
>>51295046
Ever left the house?
>>51295018python -m SimpleHTTPServer 8000
>>51295052
>not doing everything on your Phone Device™? pahahaha he must be an autistic neckbeard!
Good goy.
>>51293564
My thirld word connection makes it impossible for me.
If its "my" music, a 120gb iPod is perfect for my needs.
>>51295112
>TM meme
>Goy memes
Dude get off the Internet and go outside for a bit, please.
>>51295159
...says the fellow /g/ poster.
I prefer my recordings in physical form, you can't hold and admire an MP3.
>>51292633
Holy shit I had this one also.
>>51287870
>>Are dedicated portable media players dead?
Actually they might be making a come back if more people switch to googles; Project Fi.
Few buddies of mine switched already and when we were hanging out they talking about how their trying to find their old Zune or some portable MP3 player to save on data.
If more companies actually switch to pay for data you actually use and get rebated for data you don't, we'll probably see another wave of offline products for entertainment
>>51292490
oh fuck me i had one of these sick bastards. they used fuckin' SmartMedia cards.
>>51289783
>phones have a shit battery live and barely any physical buttons. i just want my ipod classic back
what is it with these memes?
https://support.apple.com/kb/SP15?locale=en_US
>up to 30 or 40h of music playback
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/lg-g2-mini.shtml#s5
i couldn't find it in English, but it says a little over 35h with max loudness, and it probably wasn't tested in airplane mode(it can take up to 64gb sd)
http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g2_mini-review-1070p7.php
look at the bottom of the page for audio output quality
>>51288280
Only retards look at their screen while listening to music.
Also how on earth do you not have any idea what you'll be pressing if you're already looking into it? do you have some sort of sausage fingers that press multiple things at once?
>>51288280
Most people don't give a shit and already moved on.
Enjoy your dying market.
P.S: Its 2015.
>>51295373
Project Fi isn't a good deal though
10 dollars per gigabyte? LMAO
>>51289409
Is that an alien ?
>>51293430
Because Wolfson
>>51295884
He probably has a Qualcomm S5 which isn't Wolfson.
>>51295913
Also desu I've owned several Wolfson-based phones and they really aren't any better than Qualcomm DACs, except for maybe loudness.
My phone does everything a portable music player does and more. Why would I carry an extra device?
>>51288280
>but muh buttons
>2015
>still not using wireless bluetooth headphones
I can change volume, skip, pause songs without even touching my phone. I don't even have to touch my phone to start playing music. Just put on headphones and press play.
Then there are additional benefits of noise cancelling, never dealing with dangled/broken/annoying wires again.
Seriously, get the fuck back to 2005.
>>51295941
>wireless bluetooth headphones
>noise cancelling
Wow, enjoy your garbage sound and overpriced headphones.
i dunno, i bought a shitty no-name dumbphone for 35 bux, and it had a micro-sd slot (which none of the mp3 players had) so i can listen to music. Plus it makes phone calls which is nice (and i can't break the screen when i drop it)
>>51292633
My second portable mp3 player. First one was actually a cd player that could play data cds with mp3s on it. It's still serving as an mp3 player in the laundry room at my parents house.
>>51295940
I have an iPod Video (Wolfson DAC) and it sounds much better than my Nexus 4
>>51295955
>needing perfect quality sound when on the go
>implying all bluetooth headphones sound shit
I gotta admit I'm not too fond of the sound signature of those headphones, too bassy, but they're more than good enough to make listening to music enjoyable.
I didn't buy them for the noise cancelling, didn't imagine me really using it much, but now that I have it, it's actually great. Blocks the wind noise well when cycling, blocks the sound of my noisy car and generally makes everything around you a lot quieter.
Now I have a choice between very good sound with background noise or slightly worse sound with muted background noise.
If I want audiophile grade sound, I have a great speaker setup and pair of headphones for home use. On the go I just want to listen to music.
Enjoy tripping over wires.
>>51289409
ayy lmao
>>51296082
>implying all bluetooth headphones sound shit
They do. It's inevitable because of how bluetooth works.
>>51295884
>>51295913
>>51295940
is there a away find the dac on a galaxy s4mini(i9195)?
Can I find out the output impedance from there?
Im asking because my 18ohm headphone sounds nice on my clip+ (mfw it still just werks)but suxks shit when using my s4 mini,while other higher impedance headphones sound fine on it.
>>51296082
>blocks the sound of my noisy car and generally makes everything around you a lot quieter.
Wait, you are actually driving your car with headphones on? Do you even realize how retarded that is?
>>51296108
>What is A2DP
>What is AptX
Confirmed for not having listened to a decent bluetooth set in the last 5 years.
>>51296175
and with "find" i mean "find out what model"
>>51296175
Maybe shitty AMP. Try to use mod called Viper4Android. It should help a little.
>>51296176
What the hell do you listen to when you drive your car? Expensive cars even have all this sound padding in their interior and a kickass audio system. The sound of horns or sirens of emergency vehicles is still audible, even with noise cancelling.
>>51296201
It's not completely unlistenable, but it still sounds bad. All bluetooth bistarves the shit out of everything by design. Until there's some magic compression algorithm, it's just going to be inferior. Especially since portable devices usually use lossy codecs.
>>51296175
Snapdragon 400, which mean is standard Qualcomm DAC
>>51295526
G2 had very good battery life, yes.
>>51295884
>>51295913
>>51295940
Enough about the DACs.
>>51296175
It. Doesn't. Matter. Full stop.
The internal DAC has to feed an op-amp which drives the headphone, the op-amps are unloaded into another amplifier.
I've seen super-expensive players that function excellently as DACs, but absolutely shit themselves when being used with headphone. Look at the Astell& Kern players for examples. This is because the internal amplifier is not good enough and cannot stay linear with real current demands.
Do you really want to carry around a separate amplifier on the go because someone decided to make use of a multiple top shelf converters, but left it with garbage headphone output?
>>51296245
>What is AptX
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AptX
Lossless compression is supported.
Still, even with A2DP, the compression is still inaudible. Or are you one of those guys that says you can tell the difference between FLAC and 200+Kb/s MP3?
>>51288403
>Yep even the Sansa clip+ is the same price of a a unlocked smartphone with better menu options and sound quality
>better SQ
>than a clip plus
>>51291109
>when i go to say an amusement park
>say an amusement park
He's not saying amusement parks specifically, but using an amusement park as an example event
>>51295263
You gotta be nigging me.
>>51296304
not the anon above, but on ABX test opus(128kbps) and FLAC i guessed 10/10
hmmm......
>>51296395
Sansa Clip+ honestly is no match for the newer Qualcomm DACs in low-end devices that have Snapdragon 2xx/4xx/6xx. $9.99 LG phone from Walmart with a Snapdragon 200 sounds better than my Clip +
>I listen to music on my headphones in public
>Prog rock only!
>>51296883
idiot
>>51291293
This was mine. Got it when I was in middle school and it made my 90 minute busride to and from school bearable. Cracked the screen after 4-ish years of use but the thing is still alive. The only problem was I still had dial-up at the time so downloading anything was out of the question. Ended up stuck with whatever cds I could find around the house, which included several weird al discs and some ambient soundtracks like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDuFCl45FsU
>>51296919
Headphones double as earmuffs
Hah sure like I own a fucking cellphone
>>51291761
imo
i would strap it with some leather or something to make it your "smartwatch"
>>51296829
>128kbps
No shit, that actually does sound shit. The consensus on the placebo bar is usually around 192kbps MP3. That's why I said 200+.
>>51297540
A few years back, I used to play a really boring game with other audiophiles: guess the mp3 bitrate. I used to be pretty good at it up to around 220-230kbps.
>>51290700
There is nothing wrong with clipping it to your upper arm.
>>51293430
But it doesn't sound nearly as good as my $500 DAP with a AKM4396
I don't think so. I don't have a cell phone, so I have a SanDisk MP3 player. It's pretty great. I use it for walking to class from home (about a 45 - 60 minute walk) twice a day. It has JUST died yesterday after about a month of use. The battery life is insane. It is also 8GB. It was the same price as a 2GB iPod Shuffle.
>>51295065
i was going to test it by mounting the ftp server with curlftpfs and then pointing the html server to the ftp server but i cannot get curlftpfs running with ftps. it cannot find my common name in the certificate for some reason, ill have to remake the cert i guess. i spent all this time trying to figure out what the fuck was wrong with it.
ill get back to you with a dummy folder heirarchy then, thats what i should have been doing. WITH DEMON SPEED BRB
So what's the new advice on mp3 players?
Rockbox support is pretty much impossible at this point so that's not required.
Basically
1. Battery life
2. Physical buttons
3. Price
4. Audioquality /format support
What's the sweet spot device nowadays?
>>51297540
some people can't hear the difference with 64kbps, go figure
https://www.hydrogenaud.io/forums/index.php?showtopic=106354
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/80/slides/codec-4.pdf
>>51298149
not sure how interested yall are, but i figured out the problem. it didn't detect my host name, so for common name i just wrote the server IP and that did it. i just couldnt stop trying IT BOTHERED ME back to the works BRB
>>51289322
It does not kill the battery. 2 or 3% daily max. You have to charge smartphone daily anyways
>>51298149
>>51295018
>>51294987
no vlc cannot. but good news is you can use 'open with' on the html page for files like opus. i feel like a fucking mad scientist, im running a server which is connected to a different server and streaming through the first server. IM MAD
>>51295065
and for python3 you would usepython3 -m http.server
I have a 3rd gen ipod nano, served me for quite a few years.
unfortunately there is something wrong with the headphone jack, so it doesn't always play music through both channels
I'm thinking of getting a replacement, but is there a way to repair it?
>>51290323
>>51295749
>>51296099
do you faggots not know what a wide angle lens is?
>>51299566
>what's this "right tool for the right job" crap ? ~some random alien
>>51299761
>be poorfag, zoom on cheap shit camera looks like a fish bowl all the way zoomed in, zoom all the way in anyways because also lazy fuck
>get called an ayy lamo alien
>>51288280
Lol someone doesn't have an iPhone.
>>51293546
audio jacks are trivial to replace if you can get on the insides of the device without breaking it.
>>51298164
Picked up a sansa clip+ on amzn for $67 shipped. Rockboxed and opus 512k filled, thank you anons.
>>51297700
That can damage your jack. I just found that the most convenient way to do it is just to keep the phone in your hand.
>>51300016
I might just do this as well. My jack fucked on mine, tried to take it apart and make sure it was soldered in properly, didn't see anything very wrong but never worked right. Might be able to fix it by replacing it but it's hassle and need something to rip apart, which I don't have.
I miss that little guy.
>>51300153
>My jack fucked on mine
For your next player, pick up a $5 right angled adapter - it will protect your socket.
>>51300260
Yeah that would be good. It was actually ok until I forgot it was in my back pocket and sat on it.
>>51289409
>>51289464
fuck yea I still use my gen 1 brown 30gb
I feel like a complete autist every time I pull out my Fiio X1 or put in my Etys in public.
Maybe I should go full ham and have an entire portable stack in a fanny pack.
>>51300118
Or you know Anon putting your porn machine away for 30min of the and enjoy a good workout session listening only to your heart instead of middle aged black people singing about being edgy fags.
>>51295263
Damn I completely forgot about these
Late but I'm still using this baby.
>>51300118
Just get some cheap BT headphones. lets be honest you aren't listening to music whilst exercising to get really deep into the music. it's just either to drown out the shitty gym music or keep you in the zone
>>51300118
Fuck that. All I do is take a shinguard sleeve, put it on my upper arm and slide my device in. I have a dedicated music player.
Nigga...i miss you mayne
>>51290315
Funny, I'm trying to sell a Clip+ with 20GB memory right now. I bought it a month before they got axed.
Wonder how much I could get for it.
>>51289409
>>51289373
Dude fuck that ZIF drive replace that bitch with a ZIF to CF adapter, and then a CF to SDXC/HC adapter.
>>51296082
>wearing headphones while cycling/driving
Naay youre just a dumb cunt
>>51301090
Ahhw shit nigga
>>51303187
Still werks.
I miss this guy the most.
>>51303484
I had one of those, awful samsung shit.
Is there any way to run an Iphone4 as a standalone music player? Preferably without having to deal with Itunes?
>>51301150
What ipod is that qt? 6th gen classic?
>tfw you broke your 5th gen trying to replace the battery
>>51288280
Get some headphones with buttons or forward/back controls like this
>>51288354
>smart watch
>shit taste in music
Just kill yourself already
>>51288280
what is pocket skip track for android, hold the volume button and it'll skip the track in either direction.
Anyone has experience in using this? How was it?
>>51288280
I used to think I needed physical controls too, which is why I clung to standalone media players far longer than I should have. Once I grudgingly switched to phone/touchscreen I realized it wasn't nearly as much of a pain as I thought it would be. I don't even think about it anymore to be honest. Plus, if I really want, there are solutions for this. I have headphones with a remote that can pause, play, volume control, skip tracks, and rew/ff. That eliminates the need to take my phone out of my pocket. In the car, my phone syncs so again, i don't need to touch it.
>>51303571
Sure. Just...use it. You don't need a simcard in to use the music app. As for not using iTunes, there are two ways. You can either use a third party music app, or you can download any number of programs that will allow you to add music to your library without iTunes. I've only done that once, granted, but it worked perfectly.
I've had my first gen Clip for about 7 years now, and it works fine, though I'm getting about 5-6 hours of battery life now. Never felt the need to grab a Plus since this one had enough space for my music at the time.
After hearing how fragile the Plus is, I'm a little worried this one will die on me soon. Is there a big quality difference between the two?
Got my refurb Zune HD for 100~ 5 years ago. Still going strong. Great battery life, touch screen, nice UI, slim and unobtrusive as fuck. Only downside is 16gb internal which fills up fast with podcasts.
>>51304005
>Gambino
>shit taste
>>51304461
Pick two.
>>51304166
The design is a bit different but the only real fragility of the new version is the clip itself, it tends to break off a lot quicker.
They are dead especially since many phones usually have 32/64 gb plus expandable storage. i remember when people used to use both an ipod and iphone because the iphone came with dick for memory back then, I almost never see that now. Come to think of it I cant remember the last time I saw a fucking Ipod.
>>51292572
FLAC support.
thats literally the only reason i have it
>>51300757
thanks for that
>>51291209
time to break out the soldering iron anon
Saw it mentioned a few times, but Fiio makes a couple DAPs that are pretty good. Granted, they're a lot bulkier than a smartphone.
I don't know which ones they are but there are some phones with ok-good Wolfson chips in them, and with VLC you can play anything.
One shitty thing is getting enough power into a nice pair of headphones is a hassle, in which case something like a nice DAP would be better.
What's that new one that was going to be released any day now, was it Fiio?
>>51304967
Pre-orders are now up on some Euro/wetback sites, but not the US yet.
>>51291626
Does it have expandable storage?
>>51305127
>>51305140
Nvm. UP TO 64gb with expandable.
How is that even possible? I mean seriously. This was the type of shit I had to deal with 10 years ago. I shouldn't have to worry about space constraints that severe now.
>nobody's mentioned clip zip
Just nabbed one for $20, works wonders.
>>51305229
Doesn't it have a a bad screen and shit battery life? I always hear how bad the Jam and Sport are, but nobody exactly raves about the Zip like they do with the +.
>>51305127
Yeah that's it. I can't remember if I discovered something about it that put me off but it sure looks like a good replacement for the clip+.
>>51305217
Well it has 8GB already built in, but yeah I agree with you on the space thing. I've heard fiio's other player with a 64GB limit was able to handle 128GB cards after having them formatted, but I can't speak from personal experience.
>>51287870
Possibly. Was looking for a quality device and bought a Sony Z2. Fit in 128 GB card and fuck Apple, because you get these for 30 € and dont need to pay 1000 to carry your complete music library with you.
>>51305229
I thought those were discontinued as well.
>>51287870
Yeah pretty much, its another case of people hastily abandoning completely good technology because something newer came along, media players are still relevant now as ever in my eyes.
>>51287870
normally I hate apple but I've bought 2 ipods in muh life.
Both lasted pretty long however, I preferred the wheel to the touch.
Ipods are solid products.
>>51305338
The hardware is okay but the software is a nightmare.
>>51289464
Sill use my 7 year old 120gb, been dropped a fuckton of times with a heavily cracked screen but still works like a charm, Zune's were fucking indestructible.
>>51305374
itunes used to be easy and fun to use IMO (It had a solid EQ, playlists were easy to make, and it could convert files easily)
Now it has become utter shite/DRM nightmare-ish and I think its a shame that i have it installed on my rig just for the ipod.
Should i spend 30 bucks in getting an old battery for my ipod classic 160gb?, 4th gen btw
>>51304919
>Wolfson chips in them
Wolfson Microelectronics is kill as of 2014, we Cirrus Logic now.
>>51305293
Formatting is usually how you get the larger SD cards to work.
>>51300118
How about having wireless headphones that pose no harm to your headphone jack?
I have been using my smartphone but I do miss having a seperate MP3 player.
Music seems to drain the battery life more than I would expect it to and I have yet to find an Android music player with menus I enjoy.
Everyone else already said it this but yeah, the lack of raised/tactile buttons is a detriment when you're running or doing some other physical activity and don't want to have to look down at your touch screen phone.
>>51289409
>that hand
How is mars, my alien nigga?
>>51300016
$67 for a clip+ is not cheap.
Don't buy one just because /g/ says you should. They're neat devices but not worth that much money.
Don't be that guy who buys a $400 cable.
>>51296883
>$9.99 LG phone from Walmart with a Snapdragon 200 sounds better than my Clip +
Which model is that?
http://www.amazon.com/AGPtEK-Version-Playback-Lossless-Supports/dp/B00SD18E60/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1447309221&sr=8-2&keywords=flac+player
is this any good?
I don't understand why apple killed off the iPod classic. Surely they will bring it out again with 240GB of flash storage or something
Bought my first Samsung YP-P2 used 5 years for 20$ ago for listening to podcasts while running. Such a nice device! Stacked up on them and have now 3. Spend 10-20$ each.
Few days ago checked ebay since one has broken memory - price is at 50$ for 8GB version now. Would still buy.
>>51306918
Looks good on paper but I think it's the headphone preamps that really make a difference? Unless you use your own like a true Autist™
>>51306950
This. I mean I want one, but surely everyone else will as well. If you have a smartphone the only iPods worth buying are shuffles and classics. Touch's are just gateway iPhones for children.
>>51293546
So use a line-out adapter
>>51287870
Today the most basic phones (not even smartphones) have incorporated music players. I remember stop using portable media players back in 2008, when I got pic related. Damn unbreakable phone lasted 4 years, it was my last phone before making the smartphone jump (xperia x8)
>>51287870
I still have my IPOD classic 160GB version
Its the only thing i bought from apple.
seriously the only good thing they ever did. Their other apple fag shit is garbage.
