http://www.anandtech.com/show/9769/arm-announces-cortex-a35
>2011+1+1+1+1
>ARM processors still require proprietary drivers to boot Linux
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>The company chooses to segment its IP offerings into different use-cases depending on market needs
>Tier 3: light browser usage
>Tier 2: facebook
>Tier 1: HTML5 usage
Meh, who cares x86 is going to take over sooner or later.
ARM has been and always will be shit.
pic related is only the beginning of Armageddon for ARM
>>51281549
>ARMageddon
:^3
>>51281462
>by end of 2016
wayne
>>51281549
>35 dollaroos
LMAO
>>51281559
Jesus anon, we could use that joke to make cheese dip.
>>51281549
Not until Intel cuts their prices in half.
>>51281597
They better fucking use these chips in ~$150 windows tablets. I'm sick and tired of using these crippled mobile OSs that can't do anything fucking useful even with a 100 TBs of ram.
>>51281621
Who is this hot slut?
>>51281636
That was the top of the line cherry trail atom.
pic related is the cheap cherry trail atom. I hope we can see it in phones like the zenfone 2 soon.
>>51281756
>>51281549
I like how now it's "Burst" since they can barely maintain it for a minute before throttling.
>>51281740
lol, i dunno. I have like a 1gb folder of animu grils in which half I know nothing about.
>>51281462
Finally have an ARMv8 design to replace the tiny Cortex A7. At least its better than nothing.
I'm sure Rockchip and Allwinner are going to spit out 8 core designs with these for all the Chinese tablets out there. A whole new generation of $5 SoCs is on the horizon.
>>51281756
>>51281549
>intel SDP
You shitpost in every single thread, and in every single thread you prove that you're a tech illiterate retard.
>>51281756
Hey guys, just got the first batch of cherry trail atoms. You're gonna love it!
>>51281490
back off neckbeard, we do not discuss or care about gahnoo plus loonecks in this thread
>>51281773
It can do burst frequencies if one or two cores are active but yeah under normal conditions all cores would be stressed so only the base frequency would be reached.
It's sad and the only way to get more raw power out of atoms will be to toss in more cores. Still I'd prefer an atom over any ARM chip desu
>>51281559
kekd hard desu senpai underrated post
>>51281810
>intel SDP
Yeah, max tdp is around 6 watts most likely. However this still competes with ARM chips as they can have up to 8 watts of max tdp.
Still x86 chips still require more power than ARM chips however that line is getting very thin now. If I were ARM I would be very scared of intel right now.
>>51281859
nice may may, too bad it's not true. These are 14nm atom processors not core m housefires. I haven't heard any thermal issues from them.
>>51281549
ARM on suicide watch??
>>51282280
Not yet but most likely after cherry trail's successor. Cherry trail atom chips like the z8700 probably have a max tdp of 6 watts so they consume more power than most ARM chips. Though I'm not sure about performance. Atom chips always have low performance but they have x86 cores so i dunno.
LOL, armshills got pretty quiet. What's wrong lads? Worried intel might tear ARM a new one and make them bankrupt in a few years?
>>51282455
Intel doesn't have a single chip even remotely capable of matching Apple's A9 in performance, let alone performance at such a low TDP.
The laughably retarded tripfag ITT is ignored by near everyone for being a habitual shitposter.
>>51282455
The only reason ARM exists is because their chips use around 1-2 watts on average which is crucially important for a long battery life on a phone. Also ARM chips are cheaper, I won't deny that.
However x86 chips will soon do both of those things especially as AMD enters the mobile market.
>>51282712
> especially as AMD enters the mobile market.
AMD was absolutely explicit that they had no intention of trying to compete for mobile device, you fucking imbecile. It came right out of Lisa Su's mouth in a live presentation during their financial analyst day.
The only singular reason why intel has any presence whatsoever in handset devices is because of contrarevenue. They literally had to buy marketshare.
>>51282644
>Intel doesn't have a single chip even remotely capable of matching Apple's A9 in performance, let alone performance at such a low TDP.
Do you even fucking know what it's max tdp even is? It's probably like 10 watts because everyone complains about the shit battery life the iphone 6s offers. Also the core m chips shit all over your fancy A9 turd.
>The laughably retarded tripfag ITT is ignored by near everyone for being a habitual shitposter.
So being right makes you a shitposter now? x86 is going to fucking destroy arm. Stop acting like arm won't be violently murdered when intel makes something better than cherry trail.
>>51281887
>arm
>windows
top kek
>>51282743
>AMD was absolutely explicit that they had no intention of trying to compete for mobile device, you fucking imbecile. It came right out of Lisa Su's mouth in a live presentation during their financial analyst day.
Yes I know that anon-kun. They could change their minds though especially as everyone is going mobile. AMD is still interested in making chips for laptops and tablets (A10 micro-6700T). It might take them longer to enter the mobile market though, but they might. Honestly I just wish they would so they could bring more heat to ARM and kill it faster.
>The only singular reason why intel has any presence whatsoever in handset devices is because of contrarevenue. They literally had to buy marketshare.
True. I'm glad they did though. We needed someone to save us from these tablets that can only run a shitty mobile os.
>>51282877
Microshit has a free Windows 10 version for RaspberryPi 2 which uses a quad core ARM cpu
>>51282829
>It's probably like 10 watts
Its not, you immature twat. Total device power for the 6s is 5watts. Same for the Exynos powered Note 4, and the Galaxy S6 is sitting around the same mark.
No ARM SoC is pulling 10watts, not even under a power virus. The single most power hungry ARM chip to hit the market aside from some Tegra parts was the dual core Exynos 5250 that went in the Nexus 10. It had an 8 watt delta in load to idle.
>So being right makes you a shitposter now?
Constantly talking out of his ass about things he isn't even remotely familiar with is what makes him a shitposter. He would shill Core M endlessly until someone made his stupid ass actually look at a review of Core M device to see how much power the chips draw.
Even just now the fucking retard was talking about AMD pursuing the mobile market, when they explicitly stated that they would not.
He just talks out of his ass constantly, like you're doing right now. Broadwell CoreM parts cannot compete with the A9 in heavy CPU tasks, or GPU performance. They draw an insane amount of power, and throttle terribly. Their Atom processors aren't even worth mentioning.
>>51282940
>hey could change their minds though especially as everyone is going mobile.
No, "everyone" is not.
Intel fought tooth and nail to try and compete, and they're floundering to hell and back. Not even Nvidia could secure design wins so they backed away from the mobile market and are trying to sell their Tegra chips in set top boxes and carputers.
You do not have any idea what you're talking about. Ever. Every single thread you show up in you just talk out of your ass.
>>51282998
And it was shit, unsurprisingly. Can someone make a cheap atom raspberry pie thing already. I'm sick of arm's shit.
>>51283006
>He just talks out of his ass constantly, like you're doing right now. Broadwell CoreM parts cannot compete with the A9 in heavy CPU tasks
Can you put your trip on so I can filter you as well? You talk out of your ass more than tripfag here does.
>>51282644
I hope you don't actually use things like Geekbench as a measure of computational performance between processors in different architectures.
So your A9 is twice times as fast at doing SHA, that isn't what the majority of applications spend most of their time doing.
Fact is that ARM processors often have engines built into them to do things like hashing and encryption because it can be done faster for less power consumption if you build specific areas of the die for it, just like hardware video decoders.
>>51283086
>tech illiterate retard gets butthurt over facts
How typical.
800mhz Broadwell cores, and Core M parts do throttle down to 800mhz, are literally nowhere near the A9's Twister cores in sustained performance.
>>51283149
Please, please kill yourself right now you disgusting turd.
pic related is a macbook running a core m chip
>>51283234
And here is the A9 turd for comparison.
You know what's really funny? That core M is shitting all over your precious a9 using a LOWER frequency. Both have 2 cpu cores.
>>51283234
Good job posting a screencap from Geekbench. That really does something other than makes you look like a shit eating tech illiterate retard.
The Mac fanboy forums are filled with people bitching about their Macbooks throttling and lagging horribly.
>>51283234
>>51283261
>actually using Geekbench as the metric of comparison across different arches when they're compiled in entirely different ways
I rest my case. You're retarded.
>>51283149
lol, you're more retarded than my favorite tripfag here.
>>51283234
>>51283261
Let's actually compare full results instead of just the numbers they shit out at the end.
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/compare/4139850?baseline=4141608
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/4141608
http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/4139850
>>51283261
>You know what's really funny? That core M is shitting all over your precious a9 using a LOWER frequency.
Geekbench only measures the stock clock of the CPU, it doesn't take into account the turbo boost, which is up to 2.9GHz I think on the Core M.
http://ark.intel.com/products/84672/Intel-Core-M-5Y71-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-2_90-GHz
Of course because the Macbook throttles like shit we have no idea what frequency it was running over the course of the test, but frankly we don't know for the A9 either.
>>51283275
If I could somehow filter you I really really would. If you ever become a tripfag please let me know so I can filter you. You're not only retarded but ignorant as fuck. You are an insult to people with downs syndrome.
>>51283333
He's right though. Just posting number results from Geekbench is functionally retarded for cross architecture comparisons.
Just look at >>51283294
>>51283327
>Of course because the Macbook throttles like shit we have no idea what frequency it was running over the course of the test, but frankly we don't know for the A9 either.
True, still core m chips beat an A9. I just wanted to expose the A9>core m may may.
>>51283333
>I have no argument
>I did something stupid and can't defend myself
>I'll just keep shitposting anyway
Again, how typical.
You can search through the anandtech forums for indepth looks at the actual code geekbench uses, and the reasons why it is not a tool for cross architecture comparisons. Its not even a good tool for running on a single architecture, its a fancier version of Passmark.
Alright you fucking faggots, if geekbench is so shit then what benchmark do we use?
I really really doubt a shitty A9 housefire can outperform a powerful core m chip.
>>51283294
I don't understand, the core m still shits all over the A9 HARD. Were you just trolling or something?
>>51283380
Then what the fuck do we use then?
>>51283450
Posting the final numbers is retarded.
>>51283234
>>51283261
>core m chip uses lower frequency and still shits on the a9
ayyy lmao, I didn't know the A9 was such a piece of shit.
ARM is better price/performance anyways, mememarks don't matter when all you're doing is checking Facebook and editing a Word doc.
Performance only matters when you're gaming, and when it comes to that it's mostly the GPU doing the work.
>>51283468
>I don't know about benches like SpecINT
I want an honest answer from you, why are you on this board at all if you're so fucking clueless?
>hurp durrp dem ARM chips draw 10 watts guys, I know because I said so
>I clearly never looked up any real reviews of the devices in question
>hurrrf le arm sux XDDDDd
>Geekbench is great lol
You belong on some subreddit for children since you're clearly mentally deficient.
>>51283523
Why? The numbers mean the chip can do more "stuff" than the other one. Sounds like a fair benchmark to me.
Anyway what can the shitty a9 do that the core m can't do? Beside being a a moldy turd that can't run a desktop os.
>>51283563
>Anyway what can the shitty a9 do that the core m can't do?
Run SHA1 at 900MB/s on a single core.
>>51283543
okay buddy show me the specint benchmark results of the a9 and the core m 5y71 else you are just doing damage control. I'll give you one last chance to prove you're not a dipshit shilling for apple.
>>51283622
>the tech illiterate retard is too butthurt and scared to answer a simple question
I'll give you a fucking hint: Actual review sites like Anandtech have reviews for the relevant hardware. If you knew ANYTHING at all you'd be aware of that fact.
>>51283602
So it can do something of use to fucking no one while having super shit multi-core performance? lol, you made me laugh anon.
>>51283642
Your damage control is showing
>>51283676
>the tech illiterate retard is still just shitposting
Its like you actually, truthfully are just too fucking stupid to discuss anything relevant to this board. Its not like one of the relevant reviews was still on Anandtech's front page or anything.
I can't wait for you to shitpost even further.
>>51283734
not same anon but what's the specint for the core m anon posted with the macbook up there?
>>51283797
Maybe, just maybe, all of you could actually try reading the fucking reviews for once instead of continually talking out of your asses day in and day out.
This board is fucking awful.
>>51281549
Personally I prefer my pockets not spontaneously combusting, but that's just me.
>>51284002
You're a dumb ass. Even the $200 zenfone 2 didn't have any overheating problems with its ancient 22nm atom chip.
14nm atoms are going to be much cooler.
>>51283648
>lol, you made me laugh anon.
That's basically what I was going for.
>>51284002
Don't carry anything with a battery in your pocket then.
>>51284264
Be very careful anon, people could assume you were just pretending to be retarded or something. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and believe you were just joking around.
Isn't ARM inherently more energy efficient than x86?
>>51284304
To be honest there is some benefit in having fast SHA1 though, it is often used to verify files, like updates and apps to check integrity. If it is being used frequently by the system to check apps on launch or whatever then it would straight up be reducing launch times.
However it is the only area in CPU level stuff where the A9 shits all over the CoreM so it is clearly the main reason why the scores are as close as they are, with most of the rest being the RAM benchmarks and I don't know if they are the result of the RAM itself, the memory controller or what.
The fuck is ARM? Anal Ramification Module?
>>51284421
shitty processors that can't run desktop operating systems like gentoo loonix or windows 7.
>>51284421
A Rad Micro-architecture.
>>51284490
>you cant run gentoo on arm
>>51284403
>However it is the only area in CPU level stuff where the A9 shits all over the CoreM so it is clearly the main reason why the scores are as close as they are
They're not, the core m beats the A9 in 99% of scores and most importantly has more raw computational power. The A9 also can't run a desktop OS.
>>51284520
Interesting, I didn't know that. How crippled does it run on the arm processor though? Or can you do everything on the arm version of gentoo that you can on the x86 version of gentoo?
