I hope /g/ won't get rustled over posting links to reddit.
https://reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3s5r4d/is_nvidia_sabotaging_performance_for_no_visual/cwukpuc?context=10
Ultra vs. Low comparison
https://images.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/fallout-4/fallout-4-god-rays-quality-interactive-comparison-003-ultra-vs-low.html
What do the nvidia shills have to say?
Besides the usual like amd housefires (which is wierd because only nvidia stuff starts fires) and poorfags?
Not much.
This is why AMD has a tesselation slider.
Wish we nvidiots did.
>>51281049
Sometimes, I wonder why I chose to buy an AMD card. This is definitely not one of those times.
>>51281049
too poor for nvidia kiddo?
X64 Tessellation on everything!
It doesn't matter if its literally impossible to see, it needs to be tessellated!
>>51281187
Would you rather support a company that doesn't want to see the industry advance for their advantage?
Fuck I really don't want to support nvidia
But at the same time I'd rather not spend 500 bucks on the objectively worse card
what the fuck do I do
>>51281210
Yeah, that's just the thing. It just takes me a quick reminder that Nvidia are massive jews to feel good about my purchases again.
https://scalibq.wordpress.com/2011/01/19/catalyst-hotfix-11-1a-amd-admits-defeat-in-tessellation/
AMD needs to cheat at tessellation because they're weak at it
Nvidia GPUs don't require tessellation slider cheats because they can handle high tessellation
>>51281222
>Objectively Worse
The Fury Line is objectively more powerful, but shit coded games make it suffer in benchmarks.
>>51281247
>mfw i use ARM GPU's
>>51281325
Looks like a reliable source to me, fellas. I guess we're done here.
>>51281353
>Don't blame the card for not being made for games
>blame the games for not being made for the card, retroactively
>>51281325
I agree. Remove the anistropic filtering slider too.
>>51281325
>implying you can tell the difference between 64x and 32x with your eyes
>>51281393
But there are examples on both sides of the argument.
>AMD
>tessellation
CHOOSE NONE
>Is nVidia sabotaging performance for no visual benefit; simply to make the competition look bad?
This makes no sense at all.
>>51281404
>AMD shills sounds like those consolefags 30fps vs 60fps cant tell difference
>Consoles have AMD videocard
>>51281426
Oh man, tesellation... That brings back memories.
Remember when tess. was all the craze back in 2011 with the release of Metro 2033?
>>51281049
>/r/pcmasterrace
>>51281569
>Criticizing anything after posting weeb images
>nvidia a scum
>amd a shit
>nvidia 82% marketshare
>amd 18% marketshare
ogre
>updating your GPU drivers
>ever
>>51281595
This was destined to happen when Hitler lost the war.
>>51281589Welcome to 4chan, you can leave now
>>51281612
>Typical "4chan is for weebs only" argument
Pathetic, weeaboo.
>>51281633
Do you even know what a weaboo is? Hint: it has almost nothing to do with funny anime pictures, retard.
>>51281049
>shady Intel tactics
https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3s5r4d/is_nvidia_sabotaging_performance_for_no_visual/cwv9bda
>No, the court order said that they either had to stop doing it, or make it explicitly clear that it does not optimise for AMD. They chose the latter
>Interesting how it's posted on their website as an image rather than plain text, meaning that it can't be found by a search engine.
PFFHAHA. Jews all along.
>>51281393
So, you are basically saying that it's ok that both Firefox and Chrome have shit coding that hogs RAM like a fly does shit, and that hardware should follow software rather than software be made properly?
>>51281673
It's shit like this that makes me wonder
why do people support nvidia? Do they lack any capability to think?
>>51281823
Most people aren't aware of Nvidia's shenanigans, or simply don't care because they think if it doesn't affect them in the here and now, it never will. So a bit of what you said.
>>51281823
I hope that by 'people' you don't mean the general population. Whoever buys a gpu for gaming these days aims for raw performance. nvidia know what they're going when sabotaging the performance of competing products in every way possible.
>>51281544
Actually I've got 650 ti
>>51281823
Both Intel and Nvidia are fucking scumbag companies. I don't even care if Zen turns out to be shit, it will still be better than having a intel cpu
>>51281823
>uninformed people looking to buy a GPU
>Nvidia shoved in their face constantly (970 in particular)
>"LOOK! FREE GAME WITH PURCHASE YOU LUCKY GOYMER!"
>shitheads pushing the "Nvidia= cool, quiet, excellent drivers" meme on sites like Newegg constantly
>>51281823
Nvidia has good marketing and AMD has poor, badly supported products as well as bad marketing.
Im not even american but they should get sued by the children and manchildren who play videogames
>>51281926
>"LOOK! FREE GAME WITH PURCHASE YOU LUCKY GOYMER!"
>GOYMER!
>>51281926
>GOYMER
Perfect
>>51281712
don't even bother repying to retards like him, probably another pre-teens nvidia shills that doesnt know shit
>>51281926
>GOYMER
>>51281926
>goymer
ship it
>>51281823
Because I couldn't give less of a shit about "supporting" one company or another, I just wanna buy shir without worrying about the politics of what I'm buying. I'm fully aware that companies that supply products get money when those products are bought. God, you sound like those "the truth" ads. "When you buy cigarettes, the tobacco industry gets $$$". No shit. "When you buy a graphics card that actually does what you want it to do, Nvidia gets $$$". Yeah. No fucking shit.
>>51281049
>NVIDIA throttles graphic performance for no visual gain. Tessellation of subpixels
It's because tessellation only cripples their cards 15~20%, but cripples AMD's between 30 and 40%.
>>51281049
Nvidia rendering looks worse than AMD, that's where your 5 fps difference comes from on dx11.
The blame is misplaced here. This isn't a TWIMTBP title. Bethesda are just shitty developers and AMD make shitty graphics cards.
>>51283430
>oversimplifying this
>>51281049
Here's your difference file.
>>51283430
The reddit explains it perfectly actually, retard, and FYI it IS a gameworks title.
>>51283451
Most differences were also caused by the fact there's wind, hence the tree branches being affected.
>>51283539
That shouldn't affect the lamp posts and other things though.
Either way the god rays themselves aren't visible in the difference file so either the setting doesn't change the visual appearance of the god rays but is changing how the god rays light objects or it's doing nothing at all.
>>51283539
>tree branches
The only surface that seems significantly different is on the light poles
All these amd tear is delicious
>>51281823
they make the better product.
Answer me this, AMDfags. Fallout 4 on consoles has the exact same graphics feature set as on PC. Did Nvidia artificially throttle performance on the consoles too? Of course they didn't you retards.
>>51281205
stupid. should just be an image. ur gay
>>51283575
You can see a difference here.
http://images.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/fallout-4/fallout-4-god-rays-quality-interactive-comparison-006-ultra-vs-low.html
The page seems to be down but it's archived here.
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/fallout-4-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide#fallout-4-graphics-settings
>What we can't show in pictures, but can in video, is the impact on the temporal stability of lighting when decreasing the setting.
CPUs
>>51283671
This thread is literally about them sabotaging their own product, dumb-ass.
>>51283838
You'll notice you never really hear Nvidia users complaining. Instead it's AMD users - overly concerned for them - that seem to do the complaining on their behalf. Often they're still trying to beat that dead horse of early days Witcher 3 performance before Nvidia fixed the driver for certain older cards. Everything is a conspiracy nowadays as frustrations with Nvidia's performance lead has grown, and AMD finding itself in the twilight hours of their company.
>>51283873
wrong, but you won't listen to why
>>51283838
i'll continue to buy nvidia cards as long as they continue to be better than amd.
>AMD develops proprietary Mantle, AMD fanboys don't have a problem with it
>A game uses Free and Open Source tesellation
>"ZOMG, CONSPIRACY!"
>>51281049
>sir, we can't possibly tessellate this map any more
>MORE UNDERGROUND OCEANS
>but sir the level is full
>TESSELLATE LIGHT
the way it's meant to be played:^)
>>51283873
>Everything is a conspiracy nowadays
You're acting like nvidia doesn't pull some shit every year. It isn't a conspiracy theory when they're well-known for doing this shit, "apologizing" when they get caught (if there is enough public outlash a la 4 = 3.5).
And no shit AMD users complain, because nvidia users were to imbecilic to choose a proper card in the first place. Googling "what is the best GPU?" and buying the slightly better, more expensive one. Versus many AMD users (like most of /g/) who weren't lazy enough to do a modicum of research and decided to, on moral grounds, to not support someone who fucks people over consistently.
>>51284031
kek
>>51284043
AMD can only fuck you over if you buy AMD GPUs. Nvidia can only fuck you over if you buy AMD's GPUs.
Seems like the choice is obvious.
>>51284083
>implying AMD intentionally fucks people over
>literally posting in a thread where nvidia fucked over its on users intentionally
You thick motherfucker.
>>51284208
>change one setting
oh look at that, i'm unfucked. if only you could do that with amd maybe their users would spend less time crying, begging really, for nvidia to develop amd's software and more time playing games. that's really the heart of the issue.
>no nvidia, you can only develop software that increases a cards worth if you also develop it for our lowly amd cards!
sad.
>>51284287
It is okay to experience buyers remorse, no need to get all angry and yell over it. Jesus.
>>51284307
on the other hand, projection is never okay. please cease and desist.
Turned it completely off in the .ini, and the framerate on my 750ti went from ~25fps to >40fps. And it looks better too.
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/commoncfm/comparison/indexb2.cfm?id=128600
>>51283735
The difference isn't huge but I see it.
I doubt I would notice it while playing though.
>implying ATI/AMD wouldnt do the same if they could
Remember when ATI had the better performing cards but no working drivers because they could still get away with it?
>>51281125
what would be a decent without going bullshit crazy setting to set that to?
I'm thinking x16
>>51284385
Those graphics look like a game from 2008
>>51284495
Typical for bethesda. They're normally two generations behind. This time they got help form the biggest company in the GPU business but still their programming and design are terrible.
>>51281049
Just werks my Intel/nvidia rig™
>>51281049
I have an Nvidiot 670
someone please tell me how to disable tessellation. there's no option in the nvidia control panel>3D settings.
>>51284495
Because the community will fix it, why work harder?
>>51284526
>They're normally two generations behind.
Oblivion was pretty neat for 2006 game.
>>51281325
>article from 2011
>pre-GCN
Why do you keep posting this, anon? It makes you look silly
>>51284592
>Emil Pagliarulo
>PCmasterrace
>le scumbag meme hat
yeah you should probably kill yourself desu senpai
how to disable tessellation on nvidia
how to disable tessellation on nvidia
how to disable tessellation on nvidia
how to disable tessellation on nvidia
HOW
>>51284720
>it's a feature!
>>51284698
>Cancer: the Post
>>51284747
>memes are so cool!
Not him, but kill yourself
>>51284747
you forgot your reddit imagemacro with your reply
>>51281660
>Anime pictures
>Funny
Please go kill yourself and feed the fishes
>>51281823
>AMD releases a new gpu
>rebrand
>>51284720
one simply does not disable tessellation on nvidia
one does not simply disable gameworks
really sad that all thanks to nvidia, one needs next generation video card to run a game that's using a engine and graphic levels from 2010ish - 2011.
this shit really make gaming to much trouble now. way to much nonsense.
>>51281049
wasn't this well known?
Similar shit happened with Crysis 2
http://techreport.com/review/21404/crysis-2-tessellation-too-much-of-a-good-thing
I will always buy Intel™ because I only play games with Intel Inside™. Intel pioneers innovative new technologies like Hyper Threading Technology™, Intel Rapid Start Technology™ and the highest quality chipsets to ever grace motherboards.
When I boot up with a brand new Intel™ i7™ with the latest Z chipset, I can enjoy the games the way they where meant to be with Intel Inside™. Intel™ also delivers a far more silkysmooth experience with its Hyper Threading Technology™.
Intel i5™ is also very power efficient. A processor is the most power hungry device in your house. Air conditioners, water heaters, lights, etc all use less power than a processor. Which is why Intel™ puts gamers first by ensuring that their gaming experience is of the highest quality while looking out for gamers by giving them the most value in their electrical bill.
At this point in time, there's really no reasons to consider an AMD processor at all. I tried once, it caused so much heat that it exploded and nearly burnt down my house. It also consumed so much power that it produced an EMP and destroyed not only the rest of my computer but my entire neighborhood.
Intel™ also pioneered how useless MORE CORES is with the i™ series processors. Years ago, everyone thought MORE CORES were the future. Now, Intel™ has debunked that myth entirely and increased efficiency. Now you can save thousands a year in electricity thanks to Intel™ with its powerful IPC. MORE CORES will never be part of Intel's™ line up.
It's quite clear that OPs an AMD shill trying to convince you to settle on something less than the optimal experience with Intel Inside™. Intel™ is the only real way to play games. We have seen recently that they offer incredible libraries for software developers like Intel C++ Compiler. He is probably too poor to afford the Intel Inside™ experience and can not afford to play any games.
Don't be a poor gamer with bad chipsets and a huge power bills. Play games with Intel Inside™
>>51283815
Those fucking poles always, ALWAYS have AMD cpus performing worse than everyone else. Going from 720p to 1080p does not result in losing 2/3 of your fps.
>>51281049
i'm sorry that your monitor and eyes are too shit to see the obvious difference between the photos. thank you nvidia for including such a great feature on my card!
>>51285583
literally schizophrenia
why does anyone care, the fallout series has always been bad
save your $60
>>51281404
Implying you can't with your dick.
>>51285671
I did.
>>51283815
>>51285491
I honestly don't even know if I can trust review sites anymore.
Fuck this.
>>51287268
Never trust pclab.pl, their results virtually never match up with any other benchmarks.
>>51287440
I don't trust any of them anymore.
YouTube videos showing people playing the games i want are more reliable.
>>51284024
Mantle isn't propietary shill
>>51287646
AMD retained the patents and copyright and wouldn't relinquish control. It's proprietary.
>>51283815
So, Where would a I5-4460 fall on this list?
>>51287692
Amd offered to give it to nvidia, but they didn't want it.
>>51287692
It's proprietary by GNU standards, but anyone can use it, the documentation is public
Also, I quite doubt they didn't relinquish control of some stuff now that Mantle is the basis for Vulkan
>>51287746
Probably around stock 3570? Maybe drop off one frame...
>>51284455
Entirely depends on the model tessellation will be used on, small objects won't benefit from anything above 16x but bigger ones would.
>>51287772
Wow, there is a huge difference between the I5-4460 and I5-4590 for just $20~30 more.
I thought that the 4460 was just a good as a 4590 but 12 FPS is a huge difference.
>>51281589
>criticizing weeb while posting a japanese girl pic
>>51287755
Of course not, why use does Nvidia has for Mantle if they can't modify it to fit their hardware architecture?
Fallout werks on nvidia briddy gewd.
>>51285458
That was an engine limitation, it was present even before Nvidia gave them those 2millions.
>>51287891
You know, if that's really the ending I will not be surprised and would thank God I didn't bought that!
Fallout New Vegas 2 when?
>>51287858
The same use they have for DirectX or OpenGL/Vulkan
>tfw havent updated drivers in 10 months
feelsgood
>>51287963
You on keppler?
W10 drivers are hell for my gtx 670.
Oh well. Even though they're gimping their own cards, those same cards still perform better than the competition.
Getting a second 980 next tuesday. Stay mad AMD fuccbois.
>>51281823
nvidia cards last longer due to developers optimizing for their cards more.
also amd are power hungry rebrands at the moment.
they are both terrible companies and neither deserve defending over the internet. AMD does need market share though would love them to get close to 40% to keep nvidia on their toes.
>>51288039
This is as meme post as it gets
Someone should take out the comparisons between the 780 and the R9 290
That's more a testament to the extra performance AMD can wring out of unfucking their DX11 implementation along with the game specific optimization that they tend to lag heavily on. Realizing those gains are good, but it doesn't exactly paint their driver team in a good light.
It still makes AMD a good value purchase but both Team Green and Team Red don't seem to have a balanced perspective on (A) what the performance of the cards actually is, and (B) why it happens.
>>51285724
Can you please help a person who is a noob at pirating things, pirate that game?
>>51288048
>>51288048
Don't forget, the 970 has started beating the 780 ti in some games now.
>>51287958
Yeah, I'm sure running Mantle which is tailored for AMD architecture on Nvidia hardware would be a smart idea, dumbass.
>>51283695
You mean the game works game on console gpus that are amd?
You're a certain kind of special aren't ya small guy?
So, talking about in general and not only fallout, how good would be a computer with a I5-4460 with a GTX 950?
>>51288395
>So, talking about in general and not only fallout, how good would be a computer with a I5-4460 with a GTX 950?
Wrong thread.
