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>How to request purchase advice:
http://pastebin.com/hjHkKDyM

>$200 and under headphones (temporary):
http://pastebin.com/CCQCUv5e

>$200 and over headphones:
http://i.airi.su/hpg.png

>Earphones /g/uide:
http://pastebin.com/QQ4Gp7bQ

>/g/ wiki headphone FAQ:
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones

>Previous thread:
>>51268207
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first for anime girls youll never fuck
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How do you feel about Beats? :^)
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>>51273430
They're the best :^)
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Don't forget to calibrate your monitors.
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Best open headphone for classical?

Tier1: <$500 USD
Tier2: whatever
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>>51273471
Sennheiser HD 600.
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>>51273401
>wanting to fuck eriri
i guess somebody has to like the worst girl
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>>51273486
You prefer it over the 650 for orchestral?
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>>51273496
Yes, and most genres in general. HD 650 is basically the HD 600 with more bass, whether you'd like that is up to you.
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>>51273490
>worst girl
i take it you liked utah so i dont know about that
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>>51273430
I just bought a pair for my wife's son.
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>>51273519
cousin and kato are much better too.

i mean hey if you want to like cookie cutter tsunderes with literally no redeeming or unique qualities, be my guest

kato was probably the best by the end of the series because she's the only one who actually got character development
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>>51273546
everyone that hates tsunderes says the same thing though, they have plenty of variance, you just dont like it so you dont care to look. itd be like expecting someone that hates country to be versed in it
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>>51273568
>babbies first archetype
>good
every casual/newfag likes the same thing

i don't even have to look, they're shoved in my face and shit girls like eriri just make shows more unbearable
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>>51273401
Is this show any good, it's been on my backlog since forever?
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>>51273401
Is this series any good, it's been on my backlong since forever.

I want to watch it on my high-fidelity setup. (to keep it /hpg/ related). Dunno why my post was deleted.
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>>51273580
are you guys fucking serious
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>>51273581
>>51273636
It appears my post wasn't deleted after all.
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How do you guys clean your earpads? Replacement earpads cost $30 and mine are getting smelly
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>>51273533
>My wife's son

Did she have a child before you married her? Also nice dubs
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How much do the Hi2050s leak? They seem to get glowing reviews for the price range. Was considering buying them.
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>>51273742
If leakage is a concern don't bother with open headphones senpai.
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>>51273741
the whole wife's son thing is a c.u.c.k meme, I think it originated from /v/
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What are some good noise canceling headphones, as I travel on an airplane a lot.
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>>51273801
Bose makes the best noise cancelling headphones, but I'm not too familiar with them myself.
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who /akg/ here?
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>>51273988
>trying to take classy photos of weebphones
kek
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>>51273692
Lint roller for oil and hair, a toothbrush dipped in detergent or soap for the rest.

>>51273801
Bose QC25. It sounds decent with the ANC on, but when you turn off the ANC, it goes back to sounding poor again.
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>>51273692
just squeeze them in some room temp water with some detergent and a little bit of fabric softener (for velour ones) then let them dry out

makes beyer velour super soft and smell like heaven

more or less what this massive faggot does https://youtu.be/3E9XvTtDxq0?t=1m26s
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>>51273580
dude i didnt even like tsunderes at first
how could it be a babbys first
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>>51274076
stop posting
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>>51274088
why? autism triggered over waifu wars too hard?
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>>51274116
>waifu wars
>on /g/
stop posting
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WEEBS OUT
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can anyone tell me the advantages of flange tips and foam tips?
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>>51274471
Liquid language kept frozen 40 oz's
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>>51274339
Single flange, foam tips, and the bi or triflange. There are varieties of foam and flanges with different hardness, so even then there will be differences in fit. Broad generalizations ahead.

Single flange is usually for shallower fit, less isolation than foam or the multi flange usually, easy to fit. Multi-flange tends to make a deep fit easier, and they usually have higher isolation, possibly because deep fit. Multi-flange tends to affect the sound quality more than most other tips.

Foam is form fitting for better comfort, but you have to wait for them to expand after being compressed. Foam are less durable, the super-soft and pliable Comply tips in particular. Foam damps peaks slightly, but they harder to use properly. A common mistake with foam tips is not rolling back overhanging foam behind the nozzle. The foam would get pushed over the nozzle, killing the highs.
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>>51274542
>neon Indian
Nice, rest is p bad though.
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>>51274597
thx
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>>51274604
I'll make a new chart fur you guys in a bit here :3c
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>without shitposting
Dead thread.
>shitposting
Thread moves too fast and no quality posting

Is /hpg/ dead?
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I found these at the thrift store today. Did I do good?
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>>51274630
just generate charts on tapmusic tbhfam its ezmode
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>>51274746
Yes.
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>>51274746
wow they're selling that post in the thrift store? and you PAID for it?
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>>51274630
Nah, I hate picking albums like that, it just feels wrong.
I just let my actual play history do the talking.
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>>51273471
That poor drive
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>>51274778
>I just let my actual play history do the talking.
thats what tapmusic does doe
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How much isolation can you get from the Gemini HSR-1000s? I live in a condo with thin walls and can hear neighbors talking/barking dogs if I pay attention. Don't want to have to tune that stuff out.
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>>51274746
Absolutely. You've got some really good luck.
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>>51274756
>>51274859
Good to know. I hope they're better than the Sony MDR-ZX310AP I found at the Goodwill store an hour earlier. I mean, I paid $2 more for these. they better be good.

Well, this is awkward.
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>>51275040
>dammit
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>>51273380
op stop removing the mic guide

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JmUFMUDMP1iSx_9EqeO__dn9r0XM2tT2PKu4rCyu2Us/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true
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>>51275040
>>51275054
How do they sound? From what I read they need amplification. How much did you pay for them anyway?
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>>51274746
Sure you did.
[spoiler]I know it's you Mr. two pair with a shorted driver trace.[/spoiler]
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Is there something like brainwavz b2 but with more bass? Europe
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>>51275141
*shrug*
I'm not a headphonefag; My tin ears usually spends most of its time listening to podcasts through earbuds I bought from Ross. I hardly own anything "audiophile." Honestly, at the moment, they don't necessarily sound much better than these Hello Kitty ones. The two don't seem to pump up the bass like the aforementioned Sonys or my Able Planet set. The latter two now sound like the time I tried the Beats Solo at Best Buy.

Kitty and Sansui have their differing qualities, but nothing that strikes me as better than the other overall. To me it's like fine wines and audiophile cables, absent of seeing the label, most wouldn't know the difference between those and a $10 bottle from the super market and a coat hanger.
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anybody here had any listening time with the mr.speakers ether or ether c?
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>>51273380
Do you eat shit out of your own hands my friend?
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>>51275556
No but if I ever upgrade it will be those or the LCD-X
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>planning new headphone purchase for a while
>finally decide on Stax SR-507 and used solid state Stax amp
>Stax SR-L500 and SR-L500 get released
Guess I should save more and get new Lambda flagship headphones
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>>51275658
Fuck it. Get an Omega II for less than a thousand hundred bucks and save $500 over the new TOTL lambda.
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>>51275678
>thousand hundred
*thousand*
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>>51275678
How do I get Omega II for less than a thousand?
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>>51275897
yahoo!japan auctions used. They pop up every week or two. If you're willing to pay $1200 or so then you can get them whenever.
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>>51275658
how long until they get measured?
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>>51275922
Just checked. There's even a Mk II for 108k yen BIN right now. That's about $900+ shipping and stuff.
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>>51275487
Are these brighter or less bright than the HD600?
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>>51276015
And an SR-009 for less than $2150. Kinda want to get those...
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>>51276045
007 > 009
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>>51275922
>used
Headphones are just too personal for me to get them used
Maybe this mentality is wrong, but I can't deal with it.
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>>51276072
Get a new pair of ear pads for a hundred bucks and call it a day. They're hand assembled and burned it to check for imbalance at the factory so someone already had their grubby paws all over them new anyway.
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>>51276059
Aren't 007 "too source picky" and "not neutral enough"
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>>51276059
I agree, but I've not heard the 009 on my new amp and I'm a little curious what it sounds like.
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>Harman releases headphone with HRTF correction, automated custom equalization and noise-cancellation which helps reduce positional variance in FR as a side-effect, all based on cutting-edge AES-published research

>some guy in a garage comes up with headphones that have essentially 2 pieces of crinkled mylar and placebophiles lick it up

Reminder that leddit and HF idiots are retarding the technological progress of headphone listening relative to what's already well-established research at this point.
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>>51276103
>"too source picky"
shitty retarded meme

>"not neutral enough"
009 are too artificial and bright

also late mk1 > mk2 but gl getting a good price on mk1 i guess, just mod the mk2
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>>51276103
They're more neutral than the 009 and have the best bass of any electrostatic, at least the Mk I and the modded Mk II. But they also need a kick in the pants current-wise to really open up. Any stax amp running at least 350v to output stage will run them fine though. The DIY stuff after that makes them better, but I wouldn't say the price is worth it unless you just make them yourself.
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>>51276111
>Harman releases headphone with HRTF correction, automated custom equalization and noise-cancellation which helps reduce positional variance in FR as a side-effect, all based on cutting-edge AES-published research
When did this happen? Can you provide me some links? That sounds quite great, I've been waiting for all those new headphone related papers at AES to be used somewhere
>Reminder that leddit and HF idiots are retarding the technological progress of headphone listening relative to what's already well-established research at this point.
Of course, marbles and "muh ear tuning measurements sux" it's much better, what are you some flat audio faggot?
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>>51273988
I didn't have an amp and I didn't want to mess with one, then I bought an X2.
AKG K701/ X2 >>>>>>>>> Sennheiser veil
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>>51276146
it was some overpriced closed AKG headphone clearly marketed toward the Beats crowd with its design

probably why it was looked over by audiophiles
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Are there any noticeable differences in quality between the E10S and E50S?
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>>51276175
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>>51276175

>$1500 for features objectively proven to contribute to a superior listening experience
>overpriced when it is competing with the T1, HD800, Audeze and Ethers of the world
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>>51276345
Why did they have to make it a wireless, black and gold nigger quincy Beats-clone design
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>>51276352

>http://www.harmanaudio.com/akg/N90+Q.html
>all-black is one of the colour schemes offered
>3m and 1.2m detachable cables included

But it isn't what you say at all, if you actually bothered to read beyond HF and /r/headphones.

There is also an option to connect to the DAC in it allowing a digital connection to the source. Probably to allow the redundant A/D conversion loop to be eliminated.
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>>51276394
Pretty sure they released a JBL headphone with the same technology, without the ridiculous pricing or nigger marketing
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Hello! So I never posted in this thread before, but I really hope I can get a recommendation for a present from you guys. My husband's daughter is having her birthday next Thursday and I know that she'd really love a new pair of open headphones. She previously had the Sennheiser HD 598 (I think...?), which had been working quite well until the headbend broke in half. I can spend up to 300$ for a new pair of headphone, but I'm searching for something which is more solid and can last longer, while not overlooking the sound quality (I don't know her fav music genres, but I know that she cares about sound quality a lot). Before posting here I did a little research on other forums (one was headfi I think, but I can't remember the name of the other one), but they confused me: some people said that the Fidelio X2 from Philips (is it right?) grants the best sound quality along with the best build quality, while others said that also some AKG are really good (can't recall the name); other ones, instead, were praising some Sennheiser headphones (maybe HD 600? Pardon, I'm not into audio gear...), while others said that Sennheiser have poor build quality and don't sound as good or "fun" as the previous ones. What does this mean? What is true and what is false? I'd like to have clearer ideas...
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>>51276411
http://uk.jbl.com/jbl_product_detail_uk/jbl-v700nxt-black.html
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>>51276420
>So I never posted in this thread before
>IP count is still the same
baka desu senpai
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>>51274808
Oh, I've actually been using that fur the past year and never even looked at the name of it.
kek.
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>>51276411

http://news.harman.com/releases/jbl-everest-revolutionizes-wireless-headphones-category-with-new-active-noise-cancellation

Yes. Unfortunately those are hobbled with extra wireless cancer circuitry. I don't doubt Harman's engineering and manufacturing capabilities, but it all seems way too complex. Too many potential points of failure. It is ridiculous that we have to pay more for a more streamlined product in the AKG.
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>>51276440
>IP count

hahahaha
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>>51276440
I'm a tech illiterate, I don't know what IP count is. Maybe my husband's daughter posted here before: I usually let her use my phone to browse the net, because she can't use her phone since it's brolen.
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>>51276467
Yeah idk, I understand the digital portion probably has to be in the headphone for the calibration or whatever but the other gimmicks like bluetooth/wireless, etc are just unnecessary
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>>51276491
This just confirms my belief that Harman's marketing team falls way behind the high-water mark of its engineering.
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>>51276775
Seems like JBL are competent enough with the loudspeaker side of things and Crown with their amplifiers
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>>51273430
>28x457)
>How do you feel about Beats? :^)
like them more than my hd600
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>>51276854
Unfortunately this is not translated into their portable audio division, which is a shame because there's lots of money to be had and it is a stagnant market with technology barely improved from the first Ety ER-4.

As it is, the headphone market is full of idiots that think that they can do better than a multi-billion business at the cutting-edge of acoustic research by stuffing dynamat into headphone earcups. The real good stuff is customized HRTF correction, head-tracking and binaural synthesis, which only Smyth comes close to with its exorbitant box.
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Who is Mark and who is Maxime?
Im asking because of the Mic guide.
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So now that I have these fancy pants headphones, what's the right way to store them? I don't anticipate using them often, so I don't want to just get a stand and let sit out in the open. Do I set something between the earpads? There some /g/ approved box I should put it in?

And what Tetris music is best enhanced by them?
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>>51277433
Either diy a satin lined gift box or bubble wrap it and place it inside a small cardboard box.
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How are the ATH-TAD400?
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>>51277433
Sell them for $750 and buy some electrostats or something.
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>>51277469
If I throw it in a box with some silica gel, is there risk to the pads drying out or some such?

>>51277526
I pondered that, the first part anyway. As nice as they are (or seem,) someone else might appreciate them more. With the sound leakage I don't want to take them along and be the hipsterest doofus on public transit.
And I'm afraid of components of it going to shit while in my possession, missing my chance to cash in.
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>>51273639
Likely yes and that is why /a/ is unbearable.
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>>51277904
I don't think they need silica gel. You see the unboxing of any brand new headphone that comes with a hard box. They don't come with one.
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xiaomi piston 3 or soundmagic e10's? bought the klipsch r6 today, taking them back tomorrow.
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What do you guys think of the AKG K 142 HD? I've been pretty happy with them.

http://us.akg.com/akg-product-detail_us/k-142-hd.html
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Would the Bifrost Multibit make a good upgrade for the Modi 2 Uber?
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>>51278567
why does it have 2 rectifiers?
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Whats the worst part about Audio-Technicas ATH-MSR7?
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>>51277089
>As it is, the headphone market is full of idiots that think that they can do better than a multi-billion business at the cutting-edge of acoustic research by stuffing dynamat into headphone earcups.
Audeze managed to make a TOTL-level headphone using off the shelf parts, then never revisited that concept and decided to make something worse. Harman has its priorities in a twist and so does Sennheiser, or anyone else who could possibly flex a large amount of engineering muscle.
Harman doesn't have so much presence in the headphone market as the company size might suggest, even owning AKG. And of course, the ANC is not so great as an audiophile marketing tool, not that Harman has seriously attempted to market it.

IEMs have more bandwidth now, an actual improvement, but the headphones back then were close to as good as they needed to be, if expensive and insensitive.

Binaural is very impractical and a dual channel binaural is set to remain as niche as ever outside gaming.
Crosstalk is as difficult as ever to get right, I expect Sennheiser and Harman to have dropped the ball again, like they did they last time I heard them.
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>>51276059
Not a STAX fan, but 009>007. 009 isn't even isn't bright, it sounds dull most of the time. 007 is STAX making the LCD-2 before Audeze did.

>>51276103
Not source picky, but the tonality means you be needing some decent amplifier.
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>>51276141
I used to own the MK2.5 and neutral isn't term I would like to describe them. I'm familiar with all versions of the SR-007 and every single one of them sounds warm. In my mind this is the type of sound that Audez'e is trying to achieve but they're not quite there yet.

I think the SR-009 is markedly better than any SR-007 and also arguably the original SR-Ω.
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>>51278590
One each for the analogue and digital parts. Look at the traces.
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>>51278869

I am starting to believe there is no incentive to develop a consumer solution for fucking idiots that don't know what a HRTF is and multibit DACs have some magic soundstage properties or spatiality. So long as the market does not know what constitutes objectively true improvement and jerks off to minor improvements in raw driver technology, headphone listening will stagnate in terms of fidelity.

ANC has technical merit in that it can reduce placement variation on headphones, which obviously helps with DSP correction.

>iems more bandwidth

Hell no. Etys have stayed pretty much the same for the last 2 decades and they are the reference for extension on both ends with a good seal.

>binaural very impractical

Something like the Smyth Realiser helps with more typical recordings too in that it helps to reduce if not eliminate the inside-the-head sensation headphones have on non-binaural recordings.

>Audeze

I don't give a fuck to tiny cottage industries tinkering with drivers. Drivers are competent enough nowadays. Anyone desiring true steps forward should be working on the necessary DSP corrections.
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>>51278944
What's the point of that?
Sharing the same rectifier shouldn't matter since it's the same source anyway, should it?
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>>51278567
If it sounds anything like the Yggdrasil then it's a no-brainer.

>>51279093
Different DC voltage requirements I think. Most digital stuff requires 5V at most, the analogue stage can go as high as +/-15V.
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Are the Soundmagic E10's still the best earphones at their price range?
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>>51279053
Etys are not the reference for extension, they are the neutral toned reference. The treble is limited in bandwidth. This is not a point that anyone needs to care about, since improved extension can be had on sub-50 dollar IEMs.

>ANC has technical merit
DSP based FIR filters is the way that ANC works, which also allows for auto-correction. ANC can be dropped freely.

>Realiser
Realiser is not less impractical than binaural, as a form of binaural simulation. The effect is realistic, it has many similarities in the limitations of the 2 channel stereos you might have it emulate.
Screaming about DSP gets you nowhere since only limited effects of binaural listening can be generalized. Crossfeed targets are the most likely thing to work on, which can be done in digital.or analog domain.
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Just ordered my new ATH m40x,I really hope they are closed enough and have enough noise cancelling to listen to on the bus and enjoy music but I guess we'll have to wait and see, thanks anyway guys, I hope I didn't get memed.
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>>51279852
You got memed if anyone told you you wouldn't look like a permavirgin wearing those headphones in public.
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>>51279906
>Implying I don't protect my virginity
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Very interested in your input here:
>>51280138
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>>51276167
Have you ever actually listened to a pair of sennheisers?
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>>51275556
Yes, I really liked them, good detail, very pleasurable to listen to, maybe very slightly lacking in the mids. Lovely bass and treble

>>51275627
I prefer the ethers to the audeze lcd-x
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I was given a set of ATH-M40x by my father as a late birthday gift. Thing is, I've never actually had "good" earphones before, I've just used crappy earbuds all my life. The sound is really off on these. Vocals are quiet, the sound is harsh. I don't know what it wrong or what to do.
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>>51280629
No
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i have a pair of sennheiser hd 429s and the jack needs replacing.
any recommendations on good jacks/places to get them?
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Can anyone recommend a pair of earphones for my phone that won't break here (pic related)?

I've gone through 2 pairs this year and they both break in the same place due to me pulling my phone out of my pocket.
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>>51281956
i'm fairly sure sennheiser sell a model of earphones with a removable cable.
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>>51281956
shures should last, the cable can even be replaced if you still magage to break it

or you could just buy a soldering iron and replace the shitty plug with a proper one
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>>51281956
ATH-IM50, neat cable. Doesn't shatter the bank, and it is replaceable.
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>>51282065
Please stop snapheiserfans
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>>51282223
eh it was all i could think of off-hand
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>>51282065
>>51282116
>>51282208

Thanks, I will investigate.
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>have dt770pro
>try x2
>its superior in every way

wish my wife's bull would buy me one..
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>>51279139
>if it sounds like a DAC it's a no-brainer
no shit so is your onboard and that won't set you back 2k
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>>51282744
well i mean, youre going from one v shaped to a better v shaped which is even open instead of closed. this has to be the most uninteresting post of all time
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>>51282744
X2 is simply better than any other headphone in the same price range.
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>>51282909
sup reddit
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so if my experience with this thread tells me anything, it's that pretty much every headphone gets shit on. so what i was thinking is, why dont i think about the headphone that gets shit on the least? and when i do this, the first thing that comes to mind are the Ethers. does anyone here hate the ethers?
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>>51283095
Nobody speak of Ethers here because they suck.
The first rule of this thread is that the more a headphone is shit on, the better it is.
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>>51283750
guess i'm buying the dt880
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>Budget - 200-250€
>Location - Portugal (Can order from anywhere. Thomann.de or amazon.co.uk)
>Source - Phone or laptop
>Preferred type of headphone - IEM or full-sized, depends.
>Open or closed - closed
>Comfort level - maximum
>Preferred tonal balance - I'm using a small V shape equalizer on my computer, image ref
>Preferred music - Coldplay
>Past headphones - ATH M50

help. I have the ATH M50, but I want to test something else. I've had these ATH M50 for the past 1-2 years now.
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>>51283750
X2 and HD600 are shitted on more
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>>51283803
Are you sure you don't have any issues with your hearing? That EQ is definitely too loud
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>>51283750
they could be too expensive for most people. or maybe even if people do have the money, they think it would be placebo.

i mean, isnt the guide in the op supposed to be a reference point? those should represent, at the least, headphones to consider. i really doubt any of them are trash. when we call things shit were basically expressing preference of signature, since those headphones represent some of the best at what they do.
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What do you guys think about the FOSTEX T50RP?
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>>51283861
If I'm using headphones I just lower the Windows sound by 80%. If using speakers, use it normally, and it's awesome.
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>>51283803
seems you'd like the dt770
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>>51278018
I'm in Hawaii, so moisture can be a problem. I'll put something in a box, into the closet, come back a while later and find mold all over it.
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>>51283899
>FOSTEX T50RP
Multiple versions of it. I dislike the mk2. Mk2 was a popular platform to start headphone mods.
Mk3 is supposed to be nicer, if somewhat rolled off in the bass.

>>51283750
>>51283893
I didn't think Ether was shitty. But I have no particular love for it. I can't quite tell opinions elsewhere.
Price is a definite barrier to most of these things.
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>>51283899
>51283899
i would like the Mad dogs more tho :)
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Can my Fiio E10k drive HD600? Or should i get a new dac/amp?
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Is "burning in" headphones just a meme?
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>>51284299
mostly anything can drive the hd600 they are efficient
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>>51284376
yes
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>>51284376
you also need to burn in your wires
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ATH M40X or HD558?
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>>51284515
MDR 7506
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>Budget
~150€
>Location
Germany
>Use
gaming, some music & movies
>The ones I had in mind
DT 880 250ohm
>Preferred type of headphone
over-ear
>Open or closed
Anything goes, just worried about my neighbors vacuum-cleaning with open headphones
>Comfort level
comfy :^)
>Past headphones
Razer kraken pro
>Questions
Do I need an amp / extra soundcard? Or is the onboard soundcard of my ASUS MAXIMUS VII HERO©™ good enough?

Thank you
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>>51284558
welche Musikrichtungen hörst du?
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>>51284413

You have to burn the inside of both your ears... LEFT and RIGHT ones.

BOTH of them.

>Audiophile
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>>51284549
Nuh-uh, want to have detachable cable. They always break on me, so I want to be able just get new cable and move on.
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>>51284377
300 ohm efficient? bruh
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>>51284657
>i don't know how electronics work
fuck off retard
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>>51284581
Alternative Rock / Metal, EDM
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>>51284624
Well the M40X is closed and the HD558 is open.
So if you like open get the Sennheisers and if you like closed get the M40X.
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>>51284693
Woah, damn, didn't noticed that, thanks. Guess 40X it is.
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>>51284558
M50x? Dt770? HD558 or 598.
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>>51284668
So your saying that i can power the HD600 to maximum with my Fiio e10k? What ive heard from other people and mostly from youtubers is that HD600 are hard to drive så i will need some kind of a good amp/dac. Not sure m8, i aint a pro.
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guys how far are in ear monitors supposed to go in your ear?

if i push mine in hard the bass increases but its kind of painful to push them in that far
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>>51284797
they're sensitive and will be driven fine by the fiio

impedance has little to do with how difficult headphones are to drive. why do you think planar magnetics, even with their very low impedances, are much harder to drive? the he-6 is 50ohm and arugably the hardest headphone to drive on the market (excluding estats)
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>>51284812
I know, there is some in ears for me that i cant use because they just fall off my ears and i do also like the sound more when they are pushed in my ears.
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>>51284825
Ive heard that ohm is the "saying" if the headphones are hard to drive... Seems like ive been wrong the whole time.
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>>51284856
it's really unfortunate how many people come to that conclusion but when you see idiots on head-fi spouting shit like "they're 300ohm, you'll need a good amp" it's inevitable.

also when they (correctly) recommend high impedance headphones for OTL tube amps because OTLs have high output impedances and this is the only situation where you need a high impedance in a headphone to adequately damp it and maintain decent distortion levels and control over the frequency response
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>>51284812
they're supposed to fit inside your ear canal.

if they don't fit properly, try using smaller sleeves.

if you're already using the smallest sleeves, you may need to get custom sleeves made. preferably, you'd have a set of IEMs custom-made. my ears are the same way.
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i like how bob katz formats his blog similar to nwavguy with the section titles and whatnot

http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/katzs-corner-episode-8-my-current-affair
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>>51284835
>>51284894
ok i switched to the small ones and its perfect now
thanks
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>>51284558
DT770.
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>>51284917
Der DT880 und der K612 sind geringfügig über dem SHP9500 und MDR 7506.
Für die beiden letzteren sollte es am Mainboard keine Probleme geben das sie relativ niederohmig sind und eine hohe effizienz haben. Als Amp/Dac Kombination gibt es eigentlich nichts besseres als das O2+ODAC bis unter 500€.http://www.headnhifi.com/amplifiers/desktop-headphone-amplifiers/OBJ_O2_ODAC_digital2
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>>51284558
>Comfy
>worried about neighbors noise
DT770, the DT880 is better though, if you think not having isolation is ok. 250ohms can be driven straight from the source, but benefits from amping, if you don't want to spend money on that check HD558, AD900X or a few others that Anons will surelly suggest.
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>>51284939
Who reads that shit anyway? He says so much dumb shit that he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
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>>51285191
>He says so much dumb shit that he doesn't deserve to be taken seriously.
such as?

i'd take bob katz' opinion over someone like marv, anax or tyll even. probably not spritzer's though since he knows more, at least regarding stax
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Are mad dogs memephones?
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>>51285216
>We both did the test today. Initially we spent time switching between the two sighted; then we did a couple of passes blind as trial runs; and then set out to do the scored tests. Results...50-50. No better than a coin toss. On the other hand, after quite a bit of dialog and a little further listening we both agreed that the Antelope was slightly brighter and seemed to have a slightly larger image in both width and depth. I thought the Yggy was a tad more dynamic; Bob didn't hear that one way or the other.

Unless Tyll is lying in the article, Bob pretended he could still hear a difference after failing an ABX blind test. That's undoubtedly fucking stupid.
I can find more dumb opinions, but I gave up on him pretty quickly.
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>>51285295
it's safer just to ignore all subjective opinions in general
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What are good wireless IEMs $50< that are very durable
I've spent like $60 in the past 2 months on wired IEMs and I never fail to fuck up the cable
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Why are HP50''s so ugly? That headband looks like cheap shit, too.
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>>51283769
don't

too fucking sharp
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What is the worst part about Audio-Technicas ATH-MSR7?
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>>51285578
save the shitposting for another thread
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>>51285590
i own the dt880 pro's, way too sibilant for the music i listen to

otherwise they're fine, but there's better options. i only spent 150 on mine so i guess that's ok
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>>51285619
timestamp
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>>51283750
This actually makes sense, you never see people shitposting about beats or razer...
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>>51285667
actually we make fun of beats plenty, but its just because its a meme to bring them up when you want to talk shit about mainstream taste. /g/ isnt different from mainstream, it's just that theyre arguing about hd600 vs x2 instead of razer vs turtle beach. its the same shit, just a different community. everyones just going to argue for what they have and against what they could have bought.

but this is different. i was using the guide in the op as a reference point. its a headphone thats good enough to be there, and yet no one hates on it much in here. has to be a good thing more than a bad thing, at least
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What parametric equalizer for Windows 7 do you suggest guys?
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>>51285786
>windows 7
kek
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>>51285786
Equalizer APO + Peace GUI
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>>51285786
APO with Peace GUI
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>>51281061
It's retards like you that ruin these threads
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>>51285639
what
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>>51274471
Hey whats ur youtube?
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its on sale
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£100 - DT990 Pro
£100 - K612
£150 - DT880 Pro
£150 - K702

coming from the DT770 Pro 80ohm
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>>51286256

$250 for earbuds

bruh
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>>51286256
oh shit finally, ive been waiting to waste my money
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>>51286290
880 unless you like the bass and treble on the 770 then go with the 990
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>>51286291
>>51286315
joker said its one of the best universal IEM at that price though

http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/flc-technology-flc8/
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>>51286290
Do you want a better 770 or something different?
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>>51286335
>http://theheadphonelist.com/headphone_review/flc-technology-flc8/

i just can't justify $250 on earbuds honestly when i can just use my p7's instead i guess

maybe i just don't see the point. they probably are great but ehhhhh
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I have something to declare about a certain brand and model of in-ears; Shure 215ses and 425s are just fucking awesome. The 425s are far too expensive for the improvement over the 215ses, and I'd probably just recommend the 215s, which, for this thread might still be horribly overpriced at around $100. But I like an extra bit of base, and both provide it.

HOWEVAH. There are additional benefits. Both sets (the ones I have, so that's what I'm shilling for) take the same kind of replacement cables, and the in-ear parts are also interchangeable, and Shure ships a bunch of extra sets of those parts in different varieties.

I fucking love them. Both sets came after a pair of gifted Bose in-ears wear stolen, and it's hard to imagine need new sets for years since the cables can be replaced and the sound is so goddamn good.

I'll fuck off now. I'm just a happy consumer.
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>>51286489
are you 14
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>>51286320
>>51286385
pretty much just want an open 770 so i'm pretty set on the 990s but I hear constant praise from the 880s.

I will be using them for gaming and music so I added the AKGs since I heard they have really good sounds stage,
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>>51286504
>howevah

yes.
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>>51286534
go for the 990 then
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>>51285893
>>51280629
I have listened to sennheisers and own a pair. most of the criticisms are true to a degree, but I don't think that makes them bad. I just think they don't sound that good with many genres people like, or rather it doesn't align with their tastes.
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I want to buy a HD600 from amazon but theres 2 of them, one of them is called
Sennheiser HD 600 - Open Monitoring Headphones
the other
Sennheiser HD 600 Open Back Professional Headphone
what is different about them?
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>>51286699
sometimes i wonder how you people even know how to breath
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>>51286722
Sometimes I don't understand why you can't just help me out
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>>51286699
>>51286722
>>51286736
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>>51286699
>he fell for the hd600 meme
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>>51286699
So no one can help? Instead of showing picture and usless comments
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>>51286794
how did you even navigate to this website to post this question if you're this fucking dumb
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>>51286570
I absolutely understand what you mean, I just can't stand people talking absolute shit about things they know very little about, often influencing others who are new to this hobby
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>>51286804
What should I get it striaght from the Sennheiser website instead?
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>>51286847
yes goy
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>>51286847
maybe you shouldn't be spending your parents money like that
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>>51286847
You can get them from Amazon if you prefer, those models should be the same. If you can make sure you can see grey parts behind the grill
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>>51286891
But why is it cheaper on amazon though, is there a catch?
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>>51286945
I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SOMEBODY CAN POSSIBLY BE THIS STUPID
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>>51286966
Kek, leave him alone

>>51286945
No, there is no catch dude, it's amazon
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>>51286966
wtf, JSTU TELL ME THEN, is it because they are used that they are cheaper?!
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>>51285585
>they're not open
>they cramp on your head like a cat on your head
>it's like a modified m40x
>sounds like a gun name

These sets of closed cans are a very great, but those disadvantage may be an advantage for some people.
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>>51286988
Yeah but I'm asking which one I should get off amazon, theres 2 of them, the
Open Monitoring Headphones
and
Open Back Professional Headphone
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>>51286991
you have to be at least 18 years old to lurk this site
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>>51283899
no bass and not very comfortable.
the mad dog is great though, and if you want to start a modding project and feel you're up to it the t50rp is a good one.
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>>51287011
Ok, but can you answer my question, stop dodging it, answer it and I'll be on my way
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>>51287061
no, you can leave now underageb&
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>>51279304

>improved extension

Etys are stretching to 17, 18 kHz already before rolling off. I have never seen an IEM that measures much beyond that flat, unless you are comparing the rate at which they roll off near 20kHz, which is irrelevant for pretty much anyone reading this especially with music. I don't know about you, but extension to me is pretty much how high or low the IEM extends to flat or close to it. Not when they are dropping off like a rock.

>ANC can be dropped freely

Yes, but there is little reason to do so if spectral response is not affected. It is a shitty audiophile meme to think that ANC by itself is inherently harmful.

>no less impractical

Do you really think that the useless trinkets of the current market are more practical? Because it isn't. Guys without any substantial research background are building shit like modded T50RPs in blackwood cups and people lap them up because the market has been the same old tired market focusing on uncorrected headphones and overkill ancillary components instead of packaging technologies that are a true step forward.

>Realiser

Because they marketed it that way - to use room IRs. One could just as easily measure their anechoic HRIR with the same setup.

>limited effects that are generalized

Tends to be helped along by head-tracking significantly. And all this DSP objectively provides a far more quantifiable improvement to the listening experience. If anything, mere crossfeed is the poor stepchild of binaural synthesis/recording and playback with appropriate DSP corrections. It helps, but it is a compromised solution that is unwarranted when we see the relatively massive computational power of even dirt-cheap DSP processors like the MiniDSP that can well handle more.
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>>51287071
I came to this thread expecting help, but I get none, such disappointment, I just ask one thing and it turns into a discussion
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>>51287123
just fuck off
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OH its in dollars
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are soundmagic e10 the best iems under 50? are there any comfy iems under 50? i have small ears
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>>51287205
you should buy this shirt
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>>51287076
>Etys are stretching to 17, 18 kHz already before rolling off
No, not that I much care.
>are more practical
No effort from the user. Easy.
>anechoic HRIR
This has no use. I think what you are looking for is the mesh function.
>mere crossfeed
The point of crossfeed is that it is generalizable and compatible with existing stereo recordings. It can be done with a minimum of computational power, and that it can be easily integrated into a headphone a bonus.
Binaural recordings are a curiosity that can't get anywhere, and as useful as head-tracking is, that's not going to change that.
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I gotta get new tips and filters for my ER-4S.
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>>51288780
What are your tips of choice? Tips you have tried?
If you live in the US, it would probably be cheaper to order a set of filters from Mouser or Digikey.
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>>51288830
>What are your tips of choice?
The stock frosted tri-flange.

>Tips you have tried?
All of the stock Etymotic tips, and Shure foam tips.

Never tried Comply or other popular tips.

I could probably get my filters there, would probably be much cheaper and I can buy a lot to keep, thanks.
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>>51273401
Wait, did it just take her ALL DAY to find some stockings?
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>>51288879
Klipsch flange (and biflanges) and Westone Star&True-fit tips also work.

ER-4 stock filters are the green Knowles filter, 1500 ohm. You can buy tons of filters, even mess around with new filters to fit on the ER-4.
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>>51289009
no. the first scene does look a little brighter but it's all meant to be night
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