https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-e7NFINJas
Is this the most sexy piece of tech created thus far?
>>51267972
it doesnt look sexy with 6 adapters hanging off of it which is the standard use case unless you just facebook
>>51267996
Are you serious? What exactly do you plug in in your notebook besides the charger?
Sure sometimes I might use a external display or a pendrive but in most cases I never plug in anything
>>51268044
>pendrive
The old Mac Pro tower was fucking beautiful.
>literally made this thread to feel better about purchasing worthless computer
>>51268414
Especially from the inside.
>apple
into the trash it goes
>>51267972
It looks fucking great to be honest with you f
>>51268416
jelly af
This laptop is pure sex.
>>51268389
Does anyone actually use flash drives anymore? The only time I ever use one is when I'm installing an OS, all my important files are backed up both on a cloud service and my home server.
>mac
Enjoy Facebook :)
>>51268627
I use it for college stuff often but that's it.
>>51268044
> external drives are deprecated, just use the cloud!
> who needs Ethernet speeds? Wi-Fi is fast enough
Go fuck yourself
>>51268627
The only time I ever used a pen-drive was at uni when printing something, it was always quicker to just pop the file on a pendrive and print directly from the printer. Then they released a web-based printing service allowing you to print from your own machine...
I lost my pendrive a few months ago and haven't replaced it.
IMO the only real problem with the MacBook is (asssuming you can get over how shallow the keys are) the performance, which is less than stellar on OS X mostly due to how it handle animations. So basically the only big problem is one intel will solve in 1-2 years, or Apple could solve in a software patch.
>>51268560
>macbook
>dick literally right on it
What a surprise lads.
>>51268710
Seriously though, who needs Ethernet? Since I bought my ThinkPad almost 5 years ago I've used Ethernet on it once, and even then it was so frustrating I went and bought a cheap router so I could use the connection on my phone, tablet and laptop at once.
Bet you're the type that defends VGA still being around because your too cheap to replace that old projector you're still claiming has good picture quality.
>>51268629
OH BUT I DO :^)
>>51268724
>the performance, which is less than stellar on OS X mostly due to how it handle animations. So basically the only big problem is one intel will solve in 1-2 years, or Apple could solve in a software patch.
This. Also wait for Apple to release a new cinema display with USB-C that charges the MB while being connected to it. That one cable setup, nngggghhh.
>>51268389
>>51268627
>>51268724
Last year in college I used Google Drive/Docs for writing all my essays/writing assignments. If I needed to print something out in the computer lab I just needed to log on and open google drive.
It's nice not having to worry if I accidentally left my flash drive plugged in or not to my computer at home anymore.
>>51268629
i really really like this meem :^)
If I buy a fagbook air, can I reliably wipe the garbage OS it comes with and install arch or fedora?
Its really light and my X201 + books is starting to kill my back
Are there any alternatives that are as lightweight and run Linux well?
>>51268848
i heard dell xps 13 can
>>51268786
> who needs high speed reliable network access?
People who's jobs involve more than emailing each other word documents. If you're at that point, you might as well have a tablet.
I have a netbook, and when all I need is mobility it's great, but maintaining shares of large files (data sets, models etc) is a nightmare. Even accessing a remote gui is rough. Maybe AC Wi-Fi is good enough, but so far I haven't seen any reason to ditch the availability of Ethernet.
I do defend vga, but only because I understand enterprise purchasing cycles.
Hi Jay.
>>51268946
Exactly; you're talking about an enterprise environment when talking about a device that was absolutely not designed for that market.
That's at best a terrible argument, and at worst a symptom of autism.
>>51268430
not when you looked inside and saw that 5770 as a "top tier" graphics card in fucking 2013
>>51268999
>Exactly; you're talking about an enterprise environment when talking about a device that was absolutely not designed for that market.
and yet continues to get choked down the throats of people in that environment
why do you need this big ass touchpad?
so you have to move your hand more?
great fucking idea, whichever kek designed this
>>51269140
gestures
>>51268999
> implying I haven't had to pull down 13 gb images over WiFi because some cunt thought the xps 13 looked cool
The reasons it matters to me are different, but the original problem is shifting media to the cloud then accessing it over WiFi. Why should I be excited about choppy playback of high resolution videos
>>51268560
I think rape would be a better word for it.
>>51268796
This is exactly what I use mine for
the bezel on my xps13 is the real game changer
the entire form factor of the laptop can change due to the top half footprint
>>51269266
choke on my cock you shilling whore
>>51267972
If only it were more powerful
>>51267972
>literally an over-hyped tablet
kek
>>51269294
Most stupid comment in the thread goes for you.
Congrats.
>>51269318
>for you
to you, you nigger faggot
>>51267972
Pretty much bought it solely for looks and better screen, what you don't notice at first, is how great the keyboard is. Hated it at start but once you get used, it's glorious. Also the fucking sound.
Though guess this can be said about a lot of Apple stuff.
>>51268724
Agree, the performance can get tad shitty when pushed.
>>51268710
Who the fuck uses external drives with a laptop? Nobody buys the new macbook as a desktop replacement, just use network drive.
>Ethernet speeds? Wi-Fi is fast enough
It is for 99% of people. If your router sucks, it's not an issue with wifi. Do you complain that it doesn't have a floppy drive and a dvd burner too?
The only time no ports was really a pain, was when using external display. Although it's partly the fault of other companies for not pushing wifi displays.
>>51267972
I get a little suspicious when laptops are that shockingly light and thin. It must be just a glorified tablet.
>>51269356
>desktop OS
>full sized keyboard
>a work day of battery life
>muh tablet meme
>>51269294
a tablet might have more ports.
>>51269318
But he is damn right mister homosexual apple employee.
>>51269393
No he is not mister poorfag
this laptop is non servicable, underpowered
its a overpriced web browsing laptop
>>51269356
Yeah, it's basically a tablet with a keyboard latched onto it. Except that a tablet at least has touchscreen, this one hasn't.
So you pay more for less. I gotta say I admire how Apple makes its money. I wished I could be that cunning.
>>51269418
>implying you use your laptop for anything else
>>51269415
>No he is not mister poorfag
I am typing on a 1500$ ultrabook, do you still believe applel users have money? Only people that get one from their parents use that shit. Anyone with half a brain cell buys premium usable hardware.
>>51268710
ITS A LAPTOP!!!!!!
>>51269428
yes, some people actually have a job, even on /g/
>>51268813
By that time there will be a better Macbook. Maybe on that doesn't throttle while driving the display.
>>51269434
>I paid 1500 on something therefore I am rich
Thats is how pathetic you are, poorfag.
>>51269434
>ultrabook
So basically something that has the same power but is less mobile with worse battery time and plebian 16:9 screen that is made for watching movies. Well spent money, anon.
>>51269449
We are not talking about a work computer here son
>>51269468
If you don't own Apple products you are poor anon.
>>51269468
>I am running out of arguments therefore I will just post complete bullshit.
Ok.
>>51269428
so just get a chromebook
>>51269492
>google shit
out
>>51269486
>uses physical media
>thinks he isn't poor
>>51269473
You do not even know what an ultrabook is. What do you do on /g/? You should return to mlp.
>>51269492
Isn't Pixel the only Chromebook with similar screen? AND more expensive than Macbook and limited by Botnet OS?
>>51269509
Great argument there, anon. How does it feel to overspend for shittier hardware that does less?
>>51269484
>>implying you use your laptop for anything else
>not talking about a work computer
you said that people don't use their laptops for anything else, didn't you now? that's what I use my laptop for. Do I need to spell it our even more?
>>51269501
I use physical media as coasters.
>>51269473
>plebian 16:9 screen
Wait, are you calling it plebian because of the aspect ratio or because it's a shitty laptop screen?
>>51269487
Ok, then explain to me why apple is more popular among rich people?
>>51269509
>You do not even know what an ultrabook is
a marketing term invented by intel that means as much or even less than "retina display"
Why do applel threads always manage to be the dumbest threads on this whole board? Not even windows xp or desktop threads come anywhere close.
>>51269545
the same reason veblen goods do
>>51269552
And now you made it dumber. Good job.
Love the appearance and the dimensions.
I wouldn't buy it for another few revisions though. The first few macbook airs weren't great
>>51269552
Because funposting and triggering macfags and shills is, well. fun
now check my 8, bitch
>>51269544
The aspect ratio. 16:9 is cheap trash designed for movies and games. 16:10 offers you more work estate, which is extra relevant given how we talk about small laptop screens, where every bit counts.
>>51269577
That is one of the reasons.
>>51268430
This this this
>>51269577
you mean other veblen goods
>>51268710
Why do people use the cloud jew when they could just use a flashdrive/hd?
applepill me senpai
>>51269580
Doubt the change will be that massive. It will be more powerful, sure but even the current macbook is not as underpowered as it seems and comparable with other ultrabooks.
Given how slow the industry moves, there is no reason to expect more wireless devices in the next two years either and Apple sure as fuck won't add another port.
Well they are using a CPU which is used in lots of tablets.
For example HP Combi Envy:
http://www.amazon.com/Envy-15-6-Touchscreen
But at least this one has touchscreen and it costs only ~500$. So the Apple tax is about 1000$ per unit. Considering the macbook doesn't even have touchscreen, what more can I say.
>>51269660
>comparing fat and heavy 15'6 trash with shitty HDD and shitty battery time to a macbook because it has similar CPU
So are you just trolling or legitimately retarded?
>>51269660
I meant this:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00PWV72J4
>>51269593
>every screen not viable for mah leet coding/grafiks work is trash
Your sperg is showing anon.
>>51269753
Viable is a vague word. You can do whatever you want with a shitty TN 1366 x 768 screen that is too dark in a normal room. You can also do most of laptop tasks on a 4kg brick from 2005.
Now why would you if there are better options?
>>51269729
>paying 1000$ for PCI storage and a bit less weight because mahh slim design
How do you think Apple has the biggest profits in history? You think every African kid bought an iPhone?
No, it's the colossal profit per unit margin they have.
They're basically the Armani Casa for electronics. They produce "minimalistic", "zen" design electronics in China and sell it for a premium in the West.
>>51269221
shut the fuck up.
i dont even like apple or own any products but you sound like a complete fanny.
its a macbook air, why the fuck would you have one? its for hipsters, with job titles like social media manager
A little thin for my tastes. I think the Air and XPS13 look much nicer.
>>51269926
>paying 1000$ for PCI storage and a bit less weight because mahh slim design
For one it's 700 bucks more. That's like a 3-4 days city trip to put the money in perspective.
And yes, that's how it works. If you want a mobile device, you pay a premium. Even Winshit Ultrabooks start around the 700 bucks mark. Then you have a similar device with a much worse screen, slower hard drive, shitty battery time, keyboard, trackpad, etc.
The only somehow comparable hardware if you want the best would be Surface 4, it's great if you want to poke your screen with your fingers and not being able to use a laptop on your lap, but other than that, there are no real alternatives for people who want a MOBILE computer for light workload that isn't shit.
If you are you want to save money by buying inferior stuff, feel free to but don't expect other people to share your choices. If money is such a big issue, there is a fucking thinkpad thread.
Mein neger... when I'll be able to hold my sessions at conferences/uni sessions without 10 adapters (bare minimum is Ethernet + VGA) I might consider it.
>>51269437
> he doesn't steam porn in 4k
>>51270141
You can do that over wifi without problems. Though H.265. fuck the macbook.
>mfw when over the next years laptops comes with less ports because apple did it
>mfw it's like the cd drive all over again
>mfw all the tears and salt on /g/
Thank you again, Steve
>>51269624
Because companies like Apple are taking away usb ports so they can't
>2001
>desktop/laptop combo because laptops are too slow for even common tasks
>2010
>laptop only, no need for a desktop
>2012
>laptop/tablet combo because laptops aren't portable enough
>2015
>laptop/desktop combo because while your laptop is portable enough, it has no ports
We've gone backwards in time because normies wanted more futuristic looking laptops
Central planning could have prevented this
Slay the free market
>>51270386
companies dont care about autist on /g/
They make money with normies and normies don't need desktop computers anymore
>Every Macbook thread
>"I don't need it therefore it isn't needed'
>still can't justify less functionality for more money versus a Macbook Air
Even Apple shills don't buy Macbooks.
Yes, bring back USB ports! And Ethernet! AND VGA! And DVD drives!
Why moving with the times if we can use inferior hardware we used to use years ago?!
>>51270432
>less functionality than Air
You realise that Air needed an adaptor too to use a screen, right?
>2015
>desktop computers that hardly let you automate tasks
>not having your own data on your own machine
>games with one button
>video apps that restrict the length of videos
>social sites that restrict the length of text to less than a paragraph
>computers with less ways to communicate
>gaming systems that are less powerful are more popular
why do normies hate freedom so much
Not gonna lie, the space gray variant is absurdly sexy.
>>51270448
So that makes them even? The Air has a bigger screen, more ports, better battery life, and a better processor. Go fuck yourself.
>>51270436
>strawmanning
It's not like people need to hook up audio interfaces, mixers, and external storage for productivity.
Why can't you Macbook shills just admit the thing is an overpriced facebook machine?
>>51270436
>Ethernet!
Because wireless doesn't security or latency issues?
>DVD drives
Enjoy your cloud scam, while I can buy more storage in bulk.
Finally, enjoy your overpriced thin client laptop. Chromebook is better then this.
>>51270326
>less ports, and forcing to buy mutiport thunderbolts
>lets make laptops have less storage so that everybody uses DA CLOUD
>No serviceable/removable parts
>lower quality keyboards chiclet.
The worst part is that they don't bother to copy the good ideas of Macbook(Good Displays, less bloatware,god tier touchpad, long battery life )
>>51270426
Businesses do, but businesses also care about saving money, and normie computers are cheaper to manufacture and therefore cheaper overall, especially when bought in bulk.
>>51269318
You're right. Surface blows the Macbook out of the water along with Xbox huge ipad "pro".
>>51270482
>bigger screen
Shitty quality and resolution for 2015.
>more ports
At the price of size. How many people really need them?
>better battery life
Again at the price of size. If you need longer than 8h battery time, sure Air is the best option. Although it depends on use too, Macbook lasts longer under load.
>better processor.
At the price of size and having a fan. Pretty much same as battery time, if you need a bit more performance and willing to have a bit less mobility, the Air is the better choice.
Though I'd say the outdated screen alone makes Air useless right now. So it's either maximum mobility aka. Macbook or Pro.
>>51270554
Who the fuck would carry that shit with them? If you're a niche customer, you have the option to get a fucking adapter anyway. The macbook is for people who need a portable computer on the go, it's not meant to replace your desktop.
>>51270455
>uses social media
>talks about normies
Kids are great!
>>51270611
>Because wireless doesn't security or latency issues?
>seriously arguing for using laptop with a cable
Like come on.
>DVD drives
>Enjoy your cloud scam, while I can buy more storage in bulk.
How are this even related? I thought this is /g/, what's so hard about having a network drive and store TBs of chinese cartoons there.
>>51267972
>>51267972
Although I do hate Apple for various reasons, this does indeed look really nice.
The only reason I absolutely hate it is the apple logo in the cover. If that wasn't there and I made good money I'd buy one.
>>51270611
>Cloud scam
You mean thinness scam
Apple fags still use optical media, but they use external drives and adapters so their laptops can be thinner and lighter than even AIDS patients need them to be.
A laptop, a half inch thick, and seven pounds heavy? IMPOSSIBLE TO CARRY!
>>51271023
It's nowhere near that dark in real life.
It's just a slightly darker version of the current grey they use.
>>51271067
well, fuck it then t.b.h.
>>51267972
>0.0001mm key travel
>shit eaters will defend this
>>51271090
>not being able to adjust to best keyboard on the market
>>51267972
Mac keyboards are garbage. Its called key travel you fags.
>>51271023
I'm using a rMBP, own an iPhone, etc... but I wouldn't stand in line for an Apple product (I don't think I'd even stand in line for tech support; if I showed up and there was a wait I'd just leave and schedule an appointment), so I'm a user but not an addict/zealot for them.
All that context out there, The macbook looks nice but the keyboard proves an engineering compromise; they managed to make a very slim keyboard that just doesn't feel right. The MBP keyboard is good (not quite as good as a Thinkpad's but good enough that I could spend all day working on it), but I really don't know if I could spend a day working on a Macbook.
I agree with you that the logo under the screen is obnoxious (that's a big part of why I *could* get the rMBP - that I don't have to see the model name under the screen 100% of the time that I use it), but this is not as big a deal compared to the keyboard failings.
I'm confident that in the next iteration one of two things will happen:
- they'll improve the keyboard design so it feels more "real"
- they'll double down on that keyboard design, signaling the end of reasonably usable keyboards on macs.
>>51271066
>Apple fags still use optical media
>I live one decade in the past so others live one decade in the past too
>>51270693
>uses social media
I can recognize the dumbing down of a technology without using it
>>51271105
>It's not bad, you're just not used to it
>Being kidnapped isn't too bad, you just need to adjust to it
They call that stockholm syndrome, and it's a feminine trait, like being sexually attracted to men.,
>>51268848
You'll need to recompile the kernel with the wifi, keyboard, and touchpad drivers. Or just install them as modules. Wither way I don't think they're installed by default.
You probably shouldn't do it though, lots of laptops run Linux much better. Dell provides open source linux drivers for all their laptops, and even ships a "developer version" of the XPS 13 with Ubuntu.
>>51271105
>eating shit from your hands direct from the market
baka desu senpai
>>51271132
>it's deprecated because apple said I, the retard consumer, don't need it
But nothing else offers the same storage density and transfer rate for the same price, so actual professionals that use macs, like designers and photographers, still end up using bluray disks and DVDRW to save and distribute their work. I mean, icloud is great for low-res selfies, programming projects, and UI design elements that max out in the kilobytes, but the world is more than normies, apple employees, and unix nerds.
Macs: great programming machines, great facebook machines
terrible everything else machines
I think apple created this new macbook with the sole purpose of triggering /g/'s autism. And well.. it werks.
>>51271138
But social media is supposed to be dumb, it's one of the examples where the technology is perfect for what it supposed to do.
>>51271187
>But nothing else offers the same storage density and transfer rate for the same price
Isn't bluray slower than wifi this days? Extern harddrives or thumb drives is where it's at.
>YOU CAN'T UPGRADE MACS
>MACS HAVE NO CEEDEES
Non-retina pro. You can replace the superdrive with a second HDD thinkpad style, and it still has a good trackpad instead of a shit-tier neckbeard clit mouse (because neckbeards never get to touch real vaginas LOL)
they're also the only non-16:9 business laptops still made
thinkfags btfo
enjoy your rubber lady parts and 1366x768
Looks like my tutti (means shit in Punjabi) when I poo outdoors
>>51271126
>they managed to make a very slim keyboard that just doesn't feel right
that's a bummer.
I expected nice, "clicky" and rugged keys.
>>51270065
surfacebook doesnt have worse screen, it has a brighter scren with higher res. sb trackpad is better. sb touchscreen and pen obliterate that macdonaldsbook.
>>51271251
>all routers are fast
>all internet connections are fast
>he doesn't into bottlenecks
>>51267972
XPS 13
>>51271365
>trackpad is better
This alone is a reason to disregard the rest. Even most MS shills agree that windows touchpads aren't on the same level.
Other than that, you just compared an actually portable laptop that weights half a kilo less than a fat ass thing that costs few hundred bucks more and can't close.
>>51271447
>working with 16:10 screen
If you're willing to put up with that cancer and Botnet OS, it's quite decent though.
>>51271370
If you can't afford a router, you can't afford a premium laptop either. Target group and all that.
>>51270693
>How are this even related? I thought this is /g/, what's so hard about having a network drive and store TBs of chinese cartoons there.
Removing functionality, and storage from your mobile devices turn it into a thin client. Which is essentially useless in itself without supporting device like server, desktop. Smart machine meme's endgame is restrciting control of your device forcing you to connect another company's servers to make it usable.
Network Drives are great for distributing your Chinese cartoon, and a bunch other home network application. When it comes to cold storage reliability, quality compression/decompression, optical media has no equal. You can buy optical media in bulk cheaper rates then hardware.
>>51271497
it closes perfectly find u retard. just because the hinge has a teardrop shape doesnt mean it doesnt close dipshit. oh wow a little gap so the keys dont indent the screen like every other fucking macbook has
>>51271518
Oh, you poor little autist, you're so bad at thinking of situations that don't pertain to yourself.
If you have a laptop, why are you only using your own router? Don't you leave the house? Ever used public wifi? Go to a university at all? Not even starbucks?
>>51271326
Nope, it's a far far cry from that.
That being said, if you can, I would suggest going and trying them out. I've heard from a small percentage of people (who *do* type a lot in their work, so not like my mom and shit) that the Macbook keyboards are usable to them at least.
There's an off chance (maybe <5%, so vanishingly rare) that you'll try it and it'll be usable to you. If you find that's the case, then know that I'm envious of you, because while I love my rMBP I don't really need the compute power (90% of my computationally intensive work is done remotely on machines with ~1TB of RAM and >60 cores), so my laptop's primary use is writing documents in ST3, ssh'ing into CentOS and similar machines, etc...
In other words, all I need is a good screen, a good keyboard, and battery life that blows you away. The rMBP does that, but also insists on being able to do much more that I frankly could give up.
>>51271523
MOTHERFUCKING
TAPE
DRIVES
MOTHERFUCKER
STARTING COST: STUPID HIGH
COST OF TAPE: STUPID LOW
LONG TERM SERIOUS COST FOR SERIOUS USERS: THE LOWEST
CD IS FOR PLEBIAN
WRITE TO TAPE
YOUR LAPTOP HAS NO SCSI PORT? FUCKING USELESS.
At least applel is making black laptops again.
Yes, I know this image is a Wallstreet.
>>51271594
Or not.
>>51271594
Aluminum is easy to recolor
Anodize kebab
>>51271523
>Which is essentially useless in itself
IF you happen to need more than 512GB on the run. Since nobody sane is going to use the Macbook to work with 4k video and it's hardly a device meant for anime consumption … not the most likely scenario.
Also there is the speed issue with optical media. It's not that much cheaper than harddrives to make it worth I'd say, though obviously depends on your priorities.
>>51271530
Outside of the lack of aesthetics, there is also the dust thing. And whatever else might fall into the Cameltoebook.
>>51271547
How is the example even related to what was talked about? You're not going to pull out your ethernet cable in starbucks to download chinese cartoons. Like, at least find a good reason to be angry. Complain about the price or something.
>>51271563
All the reviews say that it's just as good as normal macbook keyboard once you get used to the shorter travel. Though it certainly feels weird at start and needs time to get used to.
>>51271625
>You're not going to pull out your ethernet cable
I was talking about optical media
You might pull a small disk out of your portfolio to work on photos. Saving high-res photos to the cloud and is just dumb.
CDs are cheap, light, hold a lot of data, and give you a transfer rate that's independent of the closest network. USB drives are a close second, but cost more and are bulkier.
>>51271625
>once you get used to the shorter travel
Maybe they're right. The thing is that I never needed this much time to acclimate to a MBP keyboard after using Thinkpad keyboards for like 10+ years. It was a change, and I acclimated, but from the first few minutes I could tell that I could get by with typing on the MBP even if it didn't become more familiar over time (which it did).
A lot of reviews of Apple products read like a blind sycophant worshipping his master, so I've become wary of what they say, but I know that despite all my skepticism they might actually be right about getting used to it. The problem is that this isn't a very cheap risk to take; if they're wrong, I've spent like $1000 trying to see if I'd acclimate to a new keyboard only to find that I didn't/wouldn't. And by the time I decide that the experiment has been a failure, it'd be too late to return it (presumably).
>>51269538
Unless they're up-cycled by a designer firm specifically as coasters, and you bought them for over 100$, then you're poor.
>>51271625
Not him but if I have access to an Ethernet then yes, I will use it. I have a flat 2 foot cable with me, usually. Also using a mouse is pretty handy, regardless of how nice that trackpad is. It's just nicer than fighting over public wifi.
Honestly, for the money, I don't see it's purpose. I'm all for netbooks but the premium isn't all that great. Couple that with thermal throttling when streaming hd content and multitasking, it makes it a poor choice. They should have just made a nicer MBA.
>>51271664
>The thing is that I never needed this much time to acclimate to eating shit from my hands
>>51267996
You can just use one adapter with a usb and hdmi port out.
Do you really need more?
>>51271646
>Saving high-res photos to the cloud and is just dumb.
Nobody argues against that …
>I was talking about optical media
While bringing up shitty wifi quality in public places?
>You might pull a small disk out of your portfolio to work on photos.
And the normal storage won't be enough to do it on the run?
>USB drives are a close second, but cost more and are bulkier.
W-what. Here in Germany you get 256GB for under 80 bucks, it's faster than optical media and takes muss lesser space then the amount of blurays to store the same amount of data.
But again, who the fuck needs so much storage on the run for pictures? (The macbook is obviously not made for video editing)
>>51271664
>reviews of Apple products read like a blind sycophant worshipping his master
As long you don't read the Verge or other cumfests, they tend to be balanced but fair point. It's quite a gamble to pay 1k+ and hope that it works out.
I think it took me three days of heavy use and surprisingly, now I hate the "normal" keyboard on Air, because the distance between keys feel so large and the travel so soft.
>>51271743
To be fair, you're an extreme niche, man. It's clearly not meant for you either way if you want to use cables and mouses.
>They should have just made a nicer MBA.
It's what it is for most people who used Air. Just the naming is retarded and completely ruins the connection to their lineup.
>>51267972
Looks good, but it's way too underpowered, pic related is the sexiest laptop ever
> quad-core i7
> 16GB of RAM
> Godly trackpad with force touch
> Godly retina display
> up to 1TB of the fastest PCIe SSD available
> 2GB of dedicated graphics
> Dual fans
> Still so thin an light
> looks so sexy I want to fuck it
>>51271820
Maybe my next laptop will be a Macbook then. It sounds like the trade-off is a "harder" travel versus a longer key travel, and I can imagine a harder register of key entry being more important than the length of the travel itself. As I think about it, I realize my rMBP keyboard could be described as "soft" or "mushy" or what have you.
>>51271858
Why do you have a pile of shit on your desk?
>>51271971
I shouldn't have to post this, anonymous. You should be able to handle figuring this out without me.
>>51269486
how does 30mexican dollars buy a macbook?
>>51272017
That still doesn't explain why you took a shit on your desk and then uploaded a photo of it.
>>51272044
but it isn't a thinkpad on the desk anon!
>>51272044
He intends to consume it with his hands. All the iKids are uploading their meal shots these days before eating.
>>51271865
>It sounds like the trade-off is a "harder" travel versus a longer key travel
Pretty much. At start the short travel on the Macbook felt fucking weird and wrong, almost like the shitty flat keyboards on smaller netbooks without distance between keys that register every soft touch, I was about to abort buying it after trying it in store for half a minute.
But after few days, you get used to it and it doesn't feel like a compromise anymore, just different. Typing feels faster, more direct and I didn't encounter any issues with typos due it yet. Now I'd pick it over "normal" Apple keyboards. Didn't use Thinkpads for half a decade, so doubt I could accurately compare that.
>I can imagine a harder register of key entry being more important than the length of the travel itself
Indeed. This is the biggest difference compared to similar keyboards and balances the shorter travel. Also the sound is pretty noticeable, desu almost too noisy and the key size is a bit bigger than with MBA (no idea if MBA/rMPB have identical keyboards but it certainly looks that way)
I am pretty sure almost everybody would hate it at start and can't guarantee that everybody would like it after getting used to it, but it's definitely a good keyboard.
>>51272044
So you're asking a question of someone you know isn't here, and can't respond?
Do you yell at whoever's on TV as well? You know they can't hear you, right? They're not actually *in* the TV.
>>51272207
Just because your mouth is full of shit doesn't mean you can't respond. This is the internet you retard. You type with your keyboard, unless it's caked in shit because you've been using your hands to consume shit.
>>51267972
seen one in person. not gonna lie, it looks fantastic.
price is a lil too high, performance a little too low for my taste, but if it fits your niche, why not?
>>51272172
Thanks, I'll keep this in mind. I'm reluctant to buy a first-generation *anything*, but by the time I need to replace my rMBP we'll probably be on the third or fourth generation Macbook, and it'll be interesting to see where the Macbook is at that point (the MBA made huge leaps between first gen and 2nd, 3rd, 4th generations).
>>51272207
Stop trying to reason with people who think they're "above average."
>>51272232
But you asked a question of the photographer, directed at the photographer, who you seemed to think was here in this thread.
You really are one of those people who yells at the TV, and then when you get called out you're like "BUT YOU CAN ANSWER FOR HIM, CAN'T YOU?"
No dude, we can't. We're not going to answer for why Alex Trebek talks the way he does if you're going to pose questions at him. The best we can do is shrug and agree that it was a weird choice not to clear their desk, but we got over it without as much whining as you did.
>>51272242
>i'm reluctant to drink diarrhea even though i consume shit with my hands daily
>>51271858
> 2GB of dedicated graphics
> of literally 5 year old 40nm Redwood chips that AMD was going to throw into the trash
>>51272242
Seeing how hardware stagnated the last 3 years, I doubt the changes will be that significant. Rather a slow evolution with longer battery life, faster, etc. Would be pretty cool to have the power of current rMBP in such a small package for sure.
Now the Air, that seems more interesting. Apple put themselves in the corner, if they put Retina screen on Air, they would need to lower the Macbook price to keep it competitive and cannibalise own margins. Maybe it's going to get slowly killed like the non Retina Pro.
>>51272469
I don't think anyone was really expecting the Macbook (or I don't remember a fervor of anticipation about that), so it's possible they'll do something similarly out of left field with that. I can think of a few ways to improve the Macbook, though:
- more USB type C ports
- longer battery life
- some way of making the keyboard easier to transition to for MBP owners (a feeling of longer travel, idk)
- lower base price
I don't necessarily think all of these will happen (or maybe any), but they'll have to do *something* with each generation, and if there are any quirks in the first generation design that haven't come out yet (similar to the retina screen's burn in problems), they'll be able to see that in the large scale deployment of the first generation and course-correct on the subsequent iterations.
So far it seems like the MB is a reasonable purchase if it fits your needs/use case/whatever one would call it, but I'm pretty steadfast about avoiding first-generation products to see the trajectory of a company's product. I get the sense that companies also use product reviews to determine what things should be made high priority. If they just read the Ars Technica review, they could focus on
- CPU upgrades (which is totally doable)
- improving webcam
- more ports (if at all possible), or pushing a spec for wireless peripherals (probably bluetooth) more aggressively.
>>51271625
>IF you happen to need more than 512GB on the run. Since nobody sane is going to use the Macbook to work with 4k video and it's hardly a device meant for anime consumption … not the most likely scenario
The point is that optical media is not useless or deprecated technology just because the massive don't need it. I could understand building PC where you don't need it. I don't understand the mentality wanting companies to remove features, and functionality on thousand dollar devices just because you don't need it.
>Also there is the speed issue with optical media. It's not that much cheaper than harddrives to make it worth I'd say, though obviously depends on your priorities.
You don't use optical media for hot storage, you use it for cold storage. It's the most reliable local storage that can buy cheap commodity bulk storage.
>>51272566
>>51272609
Why would you eat shit from your hands?
>I want a Macbook
>can't afford one
>therefore they suck
>>51269009
Funnily enough I'm running a 7950 in my Mac Pro.
>>51268044
USB devices, like storage devices, mice, keyboards. There's a reason USB starts with fucking U for universal. because you're supposed to have it unless you're an idiot.
>>51272685
>i eat shit from my hands
>therefore i bought a macbook
>>51272704
>i eat boiled shit from my hands
>>51272774
:^)
>>51272711
So you're going to plug in a keyboard a a mouse on a device that already has both?
ok
this thread is surprisingly high-quality now that I've filtered out the autistic "eat/shit/hands" guy.
>>51272801
Not him, but some people prefer a more "stationary" setup when they're at home, but still ultimately have their work route through their laptop.
I have a hackintosh at home, a mechanical keyboard, etc... but I route everything through my rMBP (the desktops are extended with teleport; I can explain more if someone's curious, but I've participated in desk/battlestation threads before and people have only been moderately curious)
>>51272792
I have to say, Apple makes a really mean excrement heating machine for macfags.
>>51268796
I use mine for both facebook AND gay porn
>>51272848
What's the addon next to jewhide?
>>51269318
what else are you going to use it for that you wouldn't use a tablet for?
it's not powerful enough to much more than browse the web and watch a video
>>51272566
More ports seems like a possibility, given how Skylake uses less power, they could reduce the size of the battery a bit and still have longer run time. Better webcam seems likely too, it was a bizarre choice to go for such a low res one, even though it barely makes a difference, since they all blow.
Keyboard change seems unlikely, their stand alone went with the newer design, so it's probably here to stay. I guess there is a chance that the price will go down by 100 bucks … eventually. It's Apple after all.
I get your objection to buy first-generation hardware, it helped to avoid me quite few blunders too. Was tempted to buy the first gen Retina MB but was uncertain about underpowered GPU and transition to Retina friendly apps.
This is my first time giving it a shot, since it seemed pretty advanced compared to other first gen stuff and the negative point for many: Ports, didn't affect me too much coming from an Air, that needed an adapter for screen anyway. So far, the only thing that irks me is the power, though seeing the Skylake performance, I guess it will take one more generation if not a die shrink to reach the "right" level.
>>51272609
By removing the features most people don't need, they can add features most people want. Or at least cut costs internally. Though I am not even sure what you're talking about right now, the lack of bluray drive (a great idea to save space for battery and cut weight/size) or lack ports?
>you use it for cold storage. It's the most reliable local storage that can buy cheap commodity bulk storage
Which you can do over network if you have to.
>>51272861
something to block javascript or some shit idk
I needed it to install 4chan x for the 30 seconds I used safari
>>51272882
Office and coding?
>>51272901
>>51272861
http://jsblocker.toggleable.com
idk what it really does besides claim that it blocks javascript
>>51272848
>Isaac
As if FB and gay porn wasn't enough, you had to be a jew too.
>>51272902
shitty keyboard that feels worse than the stuff oyu get with tablet thingys
>>51272942
>it's shitty because I don't like it
Great argument there, son.
>>51272901
>not using safari
Isn't it the best browser on OS 10?
>>51272954
>>51272956
I used it for a week or two and most of the addons out there are shit, and it's been slow and buggy as hell.
>>51272926
>indie developed
>>51272887
Yep, I agree with everything you've said. I think it's unlikely that there'll be any substantive changes to the keyboard, but I figure since I'm not buying for a few years I might as well consider that possibility.
I don't, for instance, think that the resolution of the screen will change in the foreseeable future (although I'm really confident that Apple's next big innovashun will be related to screen refresh rate, because that's relatively easy low-hanging fruit and it'll be easy to advertise how important high refresh rates are. It's also very much in their MO to take something others have done (maybe poorly) and plant a flag firmly to pretend that they were there first).
>>51267972
They're extremely svelte, the screen is gorgeous, the build quality is good, the battery life is great.
Unfortunately, the key travel is horrible, having only one port is unforgivable (at least give us two, preferably four), I dislike the move toward buttonless trackpads, force touch is a gimmick, the CPU is underpowered, and the whole thing is basically unrepairable.
I think more people would love Apple hardware if they gave up on trying to design for the future and/or everything cost about 40% less.
>>51273081
>>51273062
>posting gore on /g/ in 2015
you're about 10 years late. /g/ isn't guro anymore.
>>51273118
>>51273137
LEL EPIK!
>>51267972
dat spec sheet yo..
>>51273013
> because that's relatively easy low-hanging fruit and it'll be easy to advertise how important high refresh rates are
Apple Silkview (tm)
As long they leave OSX and iOS separated, I am fine with everything that might come.
>>51273067
>force touch is a gimmick
The force click look up is quite fancy actually. You just tend to forget it. Besides, the technology behind the thing is pretty cool, works just like a normal touchpad without moving parts.
>>51273108
>implying one gimped USB c port isn't gore.
>>51273013
>although I'm really confident that Apple's next big innovashun will be related to screen refresh rate
The ipad pro is going to have adaptive refresh rate...
>>51273175
The iPad Pro and specifically the Pencil signaled the beginning of high refresh rates. The iPad pro does 60Hz but drops to 30Hz as needed, but the pencil will cause the system to take input 240 times per second.
My guess is the following will happen:
- iPhone will get 120 or 240Hz (probably 120Hz), and they'll plant their flag in the ground the way they did with Retina and say that's the optimal refresh rate. /g/ will have so many conniption fits about this that it might implode
- other mobile devices (iPads) will follow, maybe in the subsequent refresh
- Laptops will follow; probably the rMBP, then MBP/MBA, then MB (but maybe all at once)
- iMac would probably come last, but if I'm wrong I doubt it would change the rest of the order that much
I don't know when the iPhone refresh would happen, but I imagine that once that wave is started it'd trigger about 2-3 years of product updates and refreshes, and then all the devices would be at this "Silk View" standard or whatever they call it.
Like I said, this is pretty much a guess, but given that Apple has no problem with using a non-standard display conduit to drive features that aren't ready for modern standards (like the 5k iMac), I think it's reasonable to conclude that they'll find a way to drive 120Hz or higher and then make that their killer feature that PC makers can't easily compete with (because they're primarily working with standards-driven components). Someday DisplayPort will be able to handle high density screens at 120 or 240Hz, but not right now, and that'll give Apple years of head start while DP and its constituents try to figure out how to compete.
>>51273212
Yep, that's part of why I think it'll happen; I outlined my thinking more here >>51273346.
Maybe what'll happen is they'll debut variable refresh rate on all their devices, going from 60 to 30 as needed, but I really think that they'll bump up to 120 or maybe even 240 and claim that this gives you some unparalleled magical window into the world that makes everything amazing and orgasmic, or some such nonsense. It'll be easy for them to put variable refresh rates into existing devices, and that'll allow them to claim much longer battery life, but that's not quite the killer feature that smoothness would seem to represent to media professionals (and that, ultimately, is the market Apple claims to appeal to).
>>51267972
I actually used one. The problems are: mediocre battery life, weak hinge, and weak CPU.
Wait at least two or three generations, as per all Apple products.
>>51268627
I use them at work for transferring large files because our sysadmins are niggers and make it a pain to transfer via Windows over the network.
>>51270448
No it doesn't. My monitor has a display port.
>>51273346
>>51273375
Yeah, it seems like the most likely next development, specially given how they made the first step there with the iPad Pro. (Jeezus, can anybody explain their pricing with that one? It makes the Macbook look like a bargain)
Besides, adoptive refresh rate and smoothness would bring clear benefits, unlike pushing resolution further and given how there is not too much one could do to improve battery life with current materials.
>>51273398
>mediocre battery life, weak hinge
Care to elaborate?
Do you eat shit out of your own hands my friend?
>>51273473
Well I could see an argument for higher density screens if you sit closer to the monitor, but the important bit is that Apple has very firmly set a narrative that "Retina" represents the pinnacle of screen density on given devices. With all the 1080p 5" phones out there (and those with higher density screens), you would think Apple might be tempted to compete by putting a much higher density screen in their iPhones, for instance. Damn battery life, etc...
The reason they haven't (either on that front or on the MBP front, where they see 15" laptops with 4k screens) is that they've established a running narrative that the densities they've established (~220ppi on the rMBP, if I remember correctly) is the optimal one. If they increased it now, they would have to address cognitive dissonance that they themselves made.
At least, that's my guess. It's entirely possible that they wouldn't care, but they've been careful thus far about not changing the screen pixel density on iPhones, iPads, and rMBPs once they've been "retina'ized" in their first passes.
>>51273473
You know how the hinge on the MBA and RMBP is resistant enough not to ever wobble but still lets you open by only lifting the screen?
The concept doesn't work as well on the MacBook and there's a springiness and even squeaky wobble when you open the lid. I had the same problem with the earlier MBA iterations.
>>51272792
Can you stick any Radeon HD 7950 in there, or do you need that special mac version?
Any other Mac Pro shitlords hanging out in this thread?
>>51268710
Holy shit fucking this.
>>51273539
You can! I bought an MSI one that happened to be on sale at Newegg when I purchased it.
>>51268710
for a lot of users, this is all true.
Apple isn't trying to design for the long tail of users. They can take something like 80% of the market by focusing on a relatively small feature set.
Why is this so disorienting for you guys?
>>51273520
>If they increased it now, they would have to address cognitive dissonance that they themselves made.
>"Retina S"
Sounds like a great way to motivate people to upgrade, eventually. Given the current screen and battery technology, they seem to have hit the sweet spot between quality and drawbacks. It would certainly not harm to go further but I doubt Apple will do it in the next ~5 years.
Besides, refresh rate would be a better platform for "muh innovation" than fighting resolution battles.
>>51273535
Yeah, it's certainly more wobbly but in normal use, even on the lap, I never noticed any issues with it.
>>51273346
the only problems are
-Apple uses many standard components and I don't see that changing, they even use eDP in their iphone and ipad line
-the latest version of displayport has the bandwidth for uhd at 120hz
-the base refresh rate for the iphone will probably be around 60, maybe 30 when the battery is low to save power, and as low as 24 for watching certain videos
Needs more USB ports for me to really be into it,
>>51273757
did you mean to post this in the watch thread?
>>51273650
This is all pretty reasonable. They might use existing standards to do 120Hz, but the 5k iMac proves that they're willing to use a non-standard display connector to achieve a feature that they think is worth reaching.
If they can use a standard connector, all the better for them, but they're evidently not above jury-rigging connections to make it work.
SHITEATERS
BTFO
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>>51273934
it seems more like the "shiteater" guy got BTFO'd. his gore spam got deleted and presumably that IP got banned.
>>51273944
Shiteaters obviously weren't banned since you're still here.
>>51271820
>extremely niche
No not really. People buy iPad airs with keyboards for a reason or they buy real laptop. People hated the air because it was a poor performing tablet priced and made to look like a laptop.
College students can't present using their laptops.
Can't stream content or have for continuous use while on your lap.
Can't keep local videos, pictures, or music.
No pen drives for weird format files or projects.
Most are buying the adapter with the laptop, which is just as bad as carrying around an Ethernet cable
I really dont see your point. Ultrabooks exist and seem like a far better option if the person refuses to buy a real laptop.
>>51273982
If you had spent half the time you was shitposting for job searching, you could get a macbook yourself, you know.
>>51273982
sounds like mods don't want the shitposters, don't seem to mind the "shiteaters"
>>51274264
If you spent half the time you eat shit from your hands job searching, you wouldn't be so poor you think a $1000 facebook machine makes you wealthy you know.
>>51274264
Shilling isnt a real job friend :^)
if they would just put retina in the air it would be GOAT af
this nonsense is unaccetable
>>51274578
At least Apple gives me free toys for it :^)
Long live Master Cock ... Cook.
>>51267972
The keyboard looks like there is 0 travel and a pain to type on.
Other than that it looks alright I guess
UX305 is better in every conceivable way desu senpai.
>>51267972
I hear this has a better keyboard. Thinner keyboard too.
>>51274757
Yeah. Outside of weight, size, display, keyboard, trackpad, SSD capacity and speed, CPU and design.
But hey, it's a bit cheaper and got tons of ports!
>>51274757
this desu senpai
>>51268414
Still use one at work, had a thief in our building steal 5 or 6 macbooks off peoples desks, probably couldn't even lift my baby.
The new kek pad, I can see it would be good for Facebook and Youtube but that's really it. It's far to underpowered, it struggles to run its own clunky OS.
It does look nice, personally I'd love a 14 inch version with an proper i7 processor and keyboard, even if its slightly thinker.
>>51272711
>He prefers a sane keyboard layout and a
proper mouse
C U C K
>>51272801
>I'm too poor for dual monitors, ethernet, a good keyboard and proper mouse because I bought a macbook.
I don't even have to waste time plugging in cables with a docking station.
>>51268044
>2015
>still plugging in charger
>>51269216
and? you need that fucking space for gestures?? Are those ninja gestures?
>>51272902
>coding with a shitty keyboard
>>51268786
At my job the difference between ethernet speed and wireless is 500mbit vs 50mbit. This is ingoing/outgoing traffic and doesn't even consider that I can instantly sync/backup shit to the on premise storage.
>>51269349
>Although it's partly the fault of other companies for not pushing wifi displays.
Stop talking shit, anon.
>>51269468
I have 7k€ on my bank account and I am literally a poorfag if you look at my monthly salary.
>>51268560
God damn. Sold.
>>51269753
You're a weeb too? If not kill yourself /v/ermin.
>>51270107
Ein Neger mit Gazelle zagt im Regen nie.
Don't read it backwards.
>>51274637
You eat shit out of your own hands
>>51272281
Shut the fuck up eater of the shit
>>51275771
>he pays money to eat shit out of his hands
>>51275849
>can't afford shit
that's what we all've read
>>51267972
No.
>>51268627
It's a very good backup and porn gadget.
>>51272061
>Processor with integrated GPU
I can't tell if you're all trolling or just retarded. It looks like shit. All macbooks do.
