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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
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P50/70 release is imminent.
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (yes, even the newer ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/TdZByAXS
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
What is the cheapest business class laptop that takes normal 2.5" hard drives, and has proper uefi support for windows 8.1/10?
>>51243060
reposting >>51242952
>>51243115
look for options pertaining to EFI in the BIOS
>>51243115
even the celeries are x86_64, there shouldn't be any problem running windows 7 32 bit on your x200
>>51243240
_X20 series where the first to support uefi unless you flashed a custom bios
>>51243109
sandy bridge era
>>51243060
whats about the retro thinkpad, any news?
What linux distro to install on:
>x220 Tablet
>i5 version
>8gigs ram (max16)
>250gb mSATA SSD + 250gb SSD
Actually want to install gentoo on it but I'd like to get better at linux first. I need to know what I'm doing when I customize.
>>51243682
Mint, you want mint with XFCE
>>51242984
They used dual-core i7s in the T520 and W520 too. Because they were the same 35W designs but in a bigger case, they ran cooler than the more power-hungry i7 quads.
What's up with this annoying whine from my X200 when it's charging and stops after reaching a certain % of charge?
>>51244081
there's a power management setting in the BIOS that fixes it but i can't remember which exactly
set all the performance settings to max instead of adjust
>>51243060
So /g/, I think I'm going to fall for the T420 meme. There's one listed on my local Kijiji now for $350 CAD (about $263 US), sure it's a bit pricey, but it also has the dedicated NVS 4200M graphics card, and if I buy locally then I can avoid the rape that comes with eBay international shipments. Processor is an i5-2520M, 4 gigs of RAM, 500 GB hard drive.
Now, I'm selling my gaming desktop since I'm not playing the latest games anymore, but I'd still like to run stuff like TF2, Minecraft and Starcraft 2 on low to medium settings at a decent framerate. Would this hardware be capable of that? I don't really have a benchmark to compare myself, since the only other laptop I've got is an old C2D Dell Latitude E6500 with integrated graphics.
Do you guys recommend thinkpad as a first laptop ever bought? Currently I have a hp550 i got for almost 20 bucks from a dumb bitch who thought it was dead because it didn't power on. Turns out, the power cord connector had a fucked wire.
I currently have an addiction towards dark souls 2,and I need one which can take it to close-to-high levels.
Everything else I'll do on it will be excel spreadsheets and programming.
What's the best I can buy? Also, I live in a country where thinkpads are basically unheard of. That means shipping.
Got a budget of 500 bucks.
Help pls.
>>51244296
Most source games and definitely memecraft can be run on a T420, even on its integrated graphics
Starcrumpets I'm not too convinced but on lowest settings you should be able to get smooth 60fps
It's a pretty good price for those specs, and you can upgrade the RAM later and get a caddy to load up a SSD in tandem with the HDD
>>51244299
T420 blaze it
You should be able to get one within $250-350 and coupled with shipping should still fall within your budget
How much should an IPS screen for X220 cost? On ebay there are ones for 45$ and 295$.
If somebody could link me a reliable seller, that'd be great.
>>51244299
no. contrary to what NEETs on 4chan will tell you, they're not worth it.
>>51244296
My T420 plays TF2 okay, a Minecraft clone just fine, and Bethesda games surprisingly well, everything including Skyrim.
It's not great at battery life or performance when gaming while not plugged in, but honestly, no laptops are good at gaming when not plugged in.
>>51243717
thank you good sir for your recommendation.
may I ask why xfce but not cinnamon?
also when should I migrate to an SSD:
>after installing Mint dual boot with win 7?
>or before?
>does it even matter?
>>51244402
Do you have another option for what I need, good sir?
>>51244452
you want to seriously game on a laptop? you're going to have to shell out some bigger bucks for a gaming laptop or one that has a significant processor, 8gb RAM, good cooling, and a legitimate dedicated recent geforce GPU. sorry.
>>51244324
Thanks for the insights. I figured Minecraft was more of a CPU-intensive program, while Starcraft is more GPU-intensive. If it's really unplayable I guess I could just go back to Brood War.
>>51244403
May I ask what sort of settings you have for TF2, and what kind of framerates you're getting?
I'm currently able to play everything at max settings, 1080p resolution, I'm obviously not expecting this going forward but I also don't want to be playing 800x600 with lowest settings and DirectX 8 just to get decent framerates.
>>51244522
Low but not lowest settings, native 1600x900 resolution, getting framerates of anywhere from 20-40 FPS depending on how much action was going on onscreen.
I don't actually like TF2 though, so I didn't play it for long enough to get a good picture of how it ran.
>>51244567
That was with integrated graphics, right? I imagine the nVidia card would probably produce better results even if it is totally antiquated by today's standards.
>>51244299
If you're into gayman look into Asus ROG gl551.
You can get one for about $600, they come with the whole shebang, i7, 16gb ram, 250gb ssd, 1tb hdd, 960m, 15.6", 1080p.
Also look into the lenovo Y series.
Other than that, if it's DaS 2 you want to play, and you can deal with silky smooth 30fps, on mid settings, probably anything will do, as long as it's an intel 4000 or better, so that's your $300 area.
Other than that, for $500 I can recommend getting a w520/530 if you're lucky, or just a specced out t420, will run DaS 2 on high, but not much more than that.
>>51244702
no
>>51244737
basically this or gtfo if you want to play real games on good settings. that's the reailty. a W520/W530 wouldn't cut it at all and IMO wasn't that fast of a laptop at all
>source
had a maxxed out W520.
>>51244862
that "no" was in reply to
>I imagine the nVidia card would probably produce better results even if it is totally antiquated by today's standards.
>>51244702
No, that was with the NVS. It's not that much more powerful compared to the integrated graphics.
>>51244737
>>51244862
>Also look into the Lenovo Y series
Funny, I have a Y50 and I'm actually looking to go back to my old W500 because I hate the terrible keyboard, the terrible screen, and the terrible touchpad. It doesn't even game all that well, I mean yeah you can play a bunch of stuff on medium and high no problem, but I get real noticeable screen tearing issues that are absent from my W500 on the same games.
I personally really like the W series. It's a real sort of "fuck off" laptop, even if the old ones are about as powerful as today's ultrabooks.
>>51245176
they really aren't that powerful for video games.
just buy one of those ROG things if you want to game on a fucking laptop for whateve reason.
>>51244364
Bump!
>>51245233
I just need dark souls 2 man.... And fucking league of Legends. Please don't smash my dreams for a thinkpad. Give me options please. I can't squeeze a desktop in my college room.
How can I patch my x220t bios to disable the WiFi card whitelist.
>>51244737
>>51245324
Disregard my post. You're the man.
>>51245233
I tried gaming on a laptop, and no matter what you can't win.
>Spend $2,700 in 2009 on a W500
>Plays games about as well as my university roommate's $1,000 MSI
>Spend $1,200 on a Y50 in 2014
>It's shit
I'm just going to get a minitower desktop and throw it in my trunk when I go somewhere.
>>51245324
>college
>wants to play games
You're going to fail, just a pro-tip.
>>51245324
THERE ARE NO CLASSIC THINKPADS FOR VIDEO GAMES.
>>51245399
Relax nigga, the dude is not looking for full on mustard race.
Almost any thinkpad in the $500 can manage very light gaming.
LoL and DaS 2 are really not that hard on your rig.
It's not like he asked for 60fps in maxed out witcher 3 at 4k.
>>51245421
>relax
HOW CAN I RELAX WHEN PLEBS INFEST MY /TPG/
>>51245399
I can play DaS2 on low on my T420 thanks to how well it's optimized.
>>51245421
yeah, but thinkpads just aren't worth it for gaming.
>>51245386
>Couldn't play games, watch anime and maintain an 80+ average
You're either an idiot, or a normie who spent all his time at parties.
>>51245453
>>51245443
But he's not getting it for gay men, he's getting it mostly for programming, browsing the net, and doing excel shits.
He probably does gay men (ayy) on the side every now and then, and for that, a w520, or even a t420 will be just fine.
>>51245463
Neildegrasstyson_autismlevels.jpg
>>51245463
>he doesn't focus 99% of his time on his studies
It's like you want to be a tier lower than everyone who is going to make it.
also
>80+ average
>not 95+
See what I mean? With this attitude, you're not going to make it.
>>51245463
>unironically saying normie
>unironically watching anime
he actually fell for it
>>51245504
Yeah, this is like those geniuses on /r9k/ that fall for piss/shit jugs, make a thread asking about how everybody's "collection" is doing with a picture of theirs, and get laughed at for the entire thread until bump limit is reached
like >>51245463 you realize that this website is 99% satirical, yeah? that's the entire point of it. just a pro-tip here, but if you take anything on this website seriously, just off yourself now because you're too easy to fuck with. thinkpads are fucking garbage. I've owned five
>W520
>R61
>x130e
>T420
>X230
None of them would I legitimately use as a primary laptop. This is all satirical. I'm sorry that I had to pull you aside and tell you this. :)
>>51245614
>claiming that this is all satirical
>actually posting your opinion
Self-conflicting satirical posts are the best.
>>51245614
>actually I think that hot dogs taste like shit
>I should know, I've spent over $1500 on them
:^)
>>51245492
Not him, but honestly networking and internships count for a lot more than grades at the end of the day. I did worse than a lot of my friends in university, and for a while I listened to their "your life is over" doomsday mantra, but after talking to the right people and going through several internships, I managed to get myself in a position where I got excellent on-the-job training and now I've got a better position than any of them. As long as you're reasonably competent and actually smart, you have nothing to worry about. That being said, you're free to continue doing whatever it is you're up to, Cheng.
>>51245761
This.
Actual work experience>any degree.
If you're expecting more from your degree than help in getting your first job you're pretty much retarded, and if you do get that job anyway, then bravo, you've just bypassed the whole thing.
You're paid for what you can do, not what you "know" or your "grades".
>>51245614
>I hate these computers
>I've owned five of them
>I fell for the meme five times and was too stupid to figure out it was a meme
Top kekkity kek
Worth 80 bucks?
I'd basically use it for writing code in a blanket cave so I can actually work during this winter
the low end AMD CPU scares me a bit though
>>51246029
not with that shitty layout
My brother asked me advice on getting a laptop between $500-$750. He is not tech savy and won't run Linux (so Thinkpads are kind of out of the picture). He also would like kind of the latest tech because he wants to run Fifa 16 on it (only needs to run, not high graphics). Any ideas?
>>51246060
It's certainly wide
>>51246029
Ehhhh....
Not really worth it imo. Plus it looks like he put one of those stickers that don't peel off right on the case.
>>51246029
Not an actual thinkpad, sounds like the kind of laptop that fell apart on me six months after I'd bought it.
>>51246065
Not a thinkpad.
>>51245666
>kek
>>51246065
If your brother doesn't even want a memepad why even post this on this general
>>>/sqt/
Also sport games are shitty shovelware with full price updates annually
>>51246060
>>51246086
>>51246090
I might just call and see if he'll take some trade for a broken down macbook, the display, battery, and power adapter on it are good, rest is pretty shot
>>51246029
Absolute trash CPU, do not get.
Can we stop talking about what you fags did/are doing in college and start talking more about Thinkpads?
>posting muh free T410s salvaged from the office recycling day
>>51246125
Ya...it's a single core, might as well stick to the broken mac
Anyone have experience with the higher end T models such as the T530? How are they? I'm looking into getting my first ThinkPad and making the holy switch to Linux. Looked at some buying guides on ThinkPad wiki and I'm leaning towards T420 / T430 / T530 for around ~$400-$550.
>>51246029
I don't know why you'd get this when you can get an X200 for $20 more.
>>51246165
Get a T420 for a more original ThinkPad experience since the T430 switched to the 5 row layout which no sane person likes.
>>51246184
Well if I can trade a broken down macbook for something and get the laptop for like 50 bucks it might be worth it
Also where are you finding an X200 for $20 more? I hope you mean the model that also functions as a tablet.
>>51246140
X220 I got a little while ago. Pretty impressive other than the shitty 5400RPM HDD.
>>51246255
>>51246029
i just bought an x200 tablet for 80 dollars, buying the x120e for that is kind of a ripoff
>>51246388
Well where did you buy it? If it were ebay I wouldn't trust ebay, but I also can't actually order anything from ebay since they don't accept my debt card
>>51246406
ebay, it had free shipping and the dude shipped it 2 day
got it today, everything is in order, it just didnt come with a charger
X250 with average specs for 550euro? In europe, so dont compare to US prices.
>>51246445
Oh really? I didn't realize a price in euros meant europe.
>>51246475
Take it easy man, all i was saying is that the prices in europe are usually much higher than those in US.
>>51246351
Stick an SSD in that sucker desu senpai. When I first got the T410s it was slow as all hell, 60+ seconds cold boot and just terrible all-round performance because of the 4,200 RPM HDD. Got a Crucial MX200 mSATA SSD and the thing just flies now.
Fastest way to move things from my main desktop to new x230t?
I'm considering just sticking the mobile HDD inside my rig and copying things manually.
Then throwing whatever I need inside the laptop from the HDD to the msata ssd.
>>51245614
Why are they industry standard for laptops and why do they have amazing reviews outside of 4chan for their robustness, and amazing build quality baka desu senpai
>>51246654
Sounds like a good plan to me.
>>51245658
>>51245666
>>51245844
>>51246759
>wat r IT guys
I worked in IT for two years during university while earning my EE degree and dealt with old thinkpads every day and didn't pay a penny for any of these. I'll gladly explain that to a group of NEETs and general nutters that actually fall for this stuff.
>>51246941
What do you use then?
>inb4 mac
>>51246941
>>51246956
I use a surface pro 3 with the little type-cover. It's very light, powerful, the battery lasts a long time, and the keyboard works very well. Admittedly, I really don't touch the digitizer functions etc but that's extra. Hell, even some chromebooks with good keyboards are more impressive than any thinkpad I've touched. Their designs are so idiotic in comparison to what we have now. They're inefficient, the keyboards aren't that impressive, thick, heavy.. just very inefficient designs for what they toss as "business/professional" features. I am a professional. I never looked at a thinkpad and thought that it was the best choice, because they just aren't from a design and efficiency perspective through engineering principles and basic logic.
>>51247042
Well, the main reason /g/ spergs over thinkpads is because they're poor, and thinkpads cost close to nothing when taking account the hardware.
Sure it's not the most impressive laptop design-wise, but the price point is extremely nice, and for light use it's just enough.
Also I must say that the versatility of a thinkpad is much greater than the one of the surface pro, maybe if we were talking surface book, but right now we're comparing the capabilities of a full on pc and a glorified tablet, and the surface book costs five times what a surface pro does, and ten times what a t420 costs.
>>51247146
The Surface Pro 3 is a full PC. I don't know what you're shilling on about, but you're wrong. They're more powerful than ThinkPads.
>mfw lenovo thermal paste
>mfw my application was just as bad
>>51247209
Well shit, others already said this, but now I'm sure of it 100% too.
it seems you are a master baiter.
had me going there for quite a while now.
>>51247233
I think you're just too far in the shill game to realize what's real and what isn't.
>>51247209
Did you actually go to Lenono's website to back this NON-SENSE ?
HOW CAN IT BE MORE POWERFUL THAN A NON-ULV HASWELL I7 WITH 16 GB OF RAM mad
>>51247042
what do you mean by inefficient?
the keyboard is a keyboard, and a better one than most laptops. the design is chunky, but idk how you see that as interfering with usability
i think you anons are forgetting that this anon is an electrical engineer. no shit he thinks the surface pro 3 is more impressive than some old thinkpad. it is in every way. they're way more efficient. engineers love that. if you asked an economist, though, they might give you a different reasoning to have one or the other.
The longer and longer it takes for my thinkpad to get here, the more I regret buying it :( .
>>51247378
What did you buy?
>>51247228
Holy fuck dude. Use a pea sized and shaped glob, it shouldn't even get past the metal top part of the CPU.
>>51247394
>metal top part of the CPU
neck yourself
>>51247409
Fine, heat spreader.
I just said it in language I thought he would understand you fuckwit.
>>51247394
The pic is the factory application. Mine was pretty similar, but fuck it. temps are lower now so who the fuck cares.
Can someone tell me a way to get stereo mix on the X220 or any recent thinkpad? This is the last chance before I go buy an HP Stream X360 because it has stereo mix.
Please anons. I really, really don't want to buy an HP Stream over a ThinkPad, but I absolutely 100% need stereo mix.
>>51247506
There's a program that provides similar functionality, it's called Virtual Audio Cable. You can use repeaters to put the speaker output on the cable and use it as an input or whatever you're trying to do.
>>51247423
>heat spreader
>mobile CPU
really senpai
>>51247591
Why are you so intent on splitting hairs? It's a piece of metal on top of the CPU meant for exchanging heat.
>>51247392
x200t, I mean my laptop that I am using right now can be repaired but I just felt like trying somthing new off of impulse and now I kind of regret it. I hope I won't once I have it in my hands. I mean I can always fix this in the future and use the x200t as a portable.
>>51243060
I got a T420 recently which had originally come with a factory installed win7. I put my own HDD into it, which has a pirated win7. The laptop has the win7 sticker at the back.
I was wondering if I could reinstall win7 and use the serial on the sticker or request a new copy from Microsoft. Is it possible?
What is the fucking difference between
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-60Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-Webcam-320GB-7200RPM-/141737719128?hash=item210039f558:g:BDkAAOSw3ydVsm5D
and
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-60Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-Webcam-320GB-7200RPM-/141819341865?hash=item2105176c29:g:BzQAAOSwI-BWOThc#viTabs_0
other than one is $15 less? They're the same fucking specs and the same seller. what am I missing?
>>51247696
>$20 less
fixed
>>51247378
The longer I wait, the more excited I get.
>>51247623
Of course, for me, it may be because my current laptop is still in working condition, even though it's practically mated to this laptop stand I've got for it.
>>51247653
You'd have to install the same version as on the sticker. If it's an OEM version, you'd probably need to order a replacement restore disk from lenovo. I believe that you can use each serial once something like every 18 months.
>>51247581
Does it work in the same way that stereo mix works? If so, I might love you anon.
Need a work laptop for around $250 that can run Office/Power Point and has a decent enough sized harddrive.
What would /g/ recommend? Are the new thinkpads really that bad?
>>51247765
>new thinkpad
>$250
Try a T420 senpai
>>51247765
The new thinkpads are EXPENSIVE. That's why everyone suggests to get an old one.
>>51247765
Forgot the photo >>51247786
>>51247786
>>51247788
What's the best place to buy online? The only reason I was considering the new thinkpads is because it seems difficult to get used thinkpads in my area of the world.
>>51247788
>not wanting the sleek aesthetics of the x240 with the physical buttons of the x230
>not buying a brand new x250
plebeians
>>51247748
I can always upgrade the version as long as its a validated copy. I don't wanna spend any money. Is there any way I can check the serial before reinstalling?
>>51247653
>I was wondering if I could reinstall win7 and use the serial on the sticker
Yes, I just did this on my T420 a few days ago and it worked fine. You need the same version as the one in the sticker, though. I just downloaded the Win 7 ultimate iso and removed the ei.cfg from it (google it) which allowed me to choose the version upon installation.
>>51247836
Most of the time, if it's an actual serial, it'll just werk. If not, you can call into microsoft tech support and get a working key if you've already got a key. Just feed them a line of bullshit about how your system crashed and you lost everything shortly after installing.
It might actually be 6 months instead of 18. I definitely remember it was a half year increment, I just don't quite remember if it was .5 or 1.5
>>51247833
the new keyboards are shit and you know it. The xx20's are the last good ones.
>>51247832
You can find pretty good deals on ebay. Espcially with ones that boot to BIOS. I guess some sellers think that depreciates value (which I guess it does if you're a windows guy) .
Sometimes you'll find some without a HDD but even after the cost of buying one of your own it will still come out as a great deal. So just be patient and lurk ebay for a few days.
>>51247762
Yes, and it works even better. You can create multiple virtual cables, take two speaker outputs and put them on one omnidirectional cable.
I use it to do things like talk and pay music over Skype at the same time.
Only deal breaker you might have is the repeater program has to stay open while you use it, and that's used to put one audio source onto another.
>>51247696
The model number is the same, both are used, probably the condition in which the device is, or maybe original purchase date.
>>51247833
Just bought muh new X250 from ebay. The price was incredibly low (at least compared to how much they cost in my country), and it didn't even have the worst specs possible. Hope I don't get scammed.
>>51247935
I just want stereo mix so that I can play guitar over Omegle and stuff like that and have it sound the same. if VAC will do that, I'll very happily buy an X220 over some HP Stream x360 thing for $240 at Best Buy.
Do the IPS X220's have worse battery life because of the IPS?
>>51248065
Yup. All you gotta do is in Omegle set your input to a Virtual Audio Cable and in Windows use a VAC repeater, put your speaker output onto the VAC.
Presto, whatever comes through your speakers now goes through as a microphone.
>>51248124
>>51248065
And it's also perfect sound reproduction, since it's digital.
>>51248096
slightly
not as bad as on thinkpad models of yonder though
>>51248124
>>51248141
Fuck, if that works, that will solve all of my problems. I very much appreciate this, anon.
>>51248246
You're welcome. I plug this program whenever I can because it has saved my ass multiple times.
pros/cons of getting the X220T over the X220?
>>51248373
Getting an intel case badge stuck under the windows one.
>>51248373
X220 has a bigger battery option. Only have a 6 cell on my X220t but still love the fuck out of it.
>>51245399
My X61T can handle Saturn emulation
>>51246029
>not sure if I should shill my own work posting
To put it bluntly, we don't take trade ins, given we always get electronic waste for free or we charge them to remove it.
>>51247209
>full PC
Man, that is some great bait
>>51247696
Fingerprint reader
>>51248000
Good thing you got that over the X1C3
Got mine for $900 w/ IPS but it just doesn't seem that great... T430 was def better
>>51248157
Is it significant, though? I don't want to bother spending the extra $50 or whatever on the IPS if it's going to take an hour off of the battery.
>>51243060
how is heat flow in t420? would running lol on all low w/ lowest possible brightness cause the fan to start?
Can you upgrade the RAM on most ThinkPads? I'm searching for an X230 and every time I find one with specs I want the RAM is always 4GB.
>>51248612
Of course you can.
>>51248373
owner of both
x220
>9 cell option
>ALOT lighter
>better hinges
>curved palm rest which is more comfy imo
x220t
>6 cell makes a nice handle when in portrait
>touch screen and digitizer
>rotating screen
>ips screen by default
I never used the touch option on the tablet which made it useless for me. Sold it and got a x220. 9 cell lasts me 10 hours
>>51248644
Did you buy an original 9 cell? What was the cost?
>>51248578
It will struggle even at low, fans probably at max
>>51248644
Would it be hard to get a 9cell for the x220t?
Is the X220 the ultimate modern thinkpad?
>>51248664
I bought it for $80 brand new off eBay. There were cheaper options off aliexpress for genuine but I didn't research enough before purchasing. Oh well.
>>51248738
There is no official Lenovo one for 9 cell because the T version is designed differently. I saw one that was chink version that claimed it was 9 cell.
Thinking about getting a fingerprint reader for my T520, can I just buy the thing and drop it in there or do I need to get a whole new palmrest ?
It looks like it has a cutout for it already, that should just come out when I take the palmrest off, right ?
Also, anyone got experience with fingerprint readers on Linux ? Is it even any faster than typing your password ?
Has anyone here bought from vetranpcpartners on eBay that can talk about the quality of the ThinkPads he's selling? I'm seriously considering an X220, maybe 8gb RAM with IPS i5-2540 option for $314 shipped
Is the X220 IPS really worth it? 15% less efficient doesn't sound too good on a laptop that's supposed to be extremely portable.
>>51248373
I really want a 220t just because it seems like the only 2 in 1 with a proper hinge. This leaving the keyboard out and just flipping the display to the back shit is dumb. Make the display spin god damnit. fuck this bullshit
>>51243682
Running the same machine here, although I haven't upgraded to an SSD yet. I'm running Antergos with Cinnamon and its pretty smooth.
Is a i7 going to produce more heat than an i5 even if they have the same wattage? (2520 vs 2640 I think)
>>51248738
there's some "slice" battery i think it's a nonstandard shape
>>51248814
>fingerprint reader
>linux
choose one
X220t hangs when waking up from sleep. Its just fails to boot and power cycles a few times. This happens in both Windows and Linux. Any solutions?
is a w530 for the price of a w520 worth buying?
The laptops seem to be going for at least $50-100 less than what the guide says. Is it outdated?
>>51249237
Damn, are they really not supported on Linux at all ?
>>51249325
depends on what the price of a w520 is
>>51249337
1. the support isn't that great
2. it's a gimmick
>>51248373
Disgusting
>>51249325
Well yeah, I mean why not, the W530 is a better performer indeed. There really isn't that much of a difference unless you're "muh keyboard" which isn't an issue at all.
Why is this so fucking expensive? This cost more than my x200t, this is some geeksquad shit.
Lenovo T450s is great and everything works out of the box with fedora.
Is this really worth it?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Core-i5-2-60Ghz-Premium-IPS-Display-8GB-WebCam-320GB-7200-/141745083584?hash=item2100aa54c0:g:owIAAOSwyQtVzSWW
I'm finding that an X220 with the average specs is like $215, and the IPS/8GB RAM/new genuine 9 cell/SSD all being about $50 each, wouldn't getting the one I linked above and adding a new battery/SSD be about the same price at the end of it?
also
>only one left pls don't steal it :c
>>51249491
bretty good
you don't really want to be fucking around with installing/procuring the right screen in a laptop
battery and SSD is easy and usually the battery it comes with is good enough
Bought this ThinkPad edge for $190.
thoughts?
>>51249556
>edge
not real thinkpad
>>51249536
Yeah, that's what i was thinking. You say the battery they give you is usually good enough? These batteries SHOULD only be a 3-4 years old, after all.
>>51249556
>edge
>first gen i3
>768p
>$190
Return it anon.
>>51247618
On mobile CPUs, there's no heatspeader, that's the actual CPU die.
jesus christ
>>51249400
That's a shame. Oh well, I'll just drop that idea then.
Let me just pick these street signs first, though.
>>51249627
>actual cpu die
>>51249672
thing on the right is the heat spreader
>>51249698
Okay, so what is the metal thing on top of the CPU on the left called? :^)
>>51249709
>>51249748
Well? :^) :^) :^)
>>51249709
>>51249766
Just die.
>>51248373
x220
>9cell battery option
>much better cooling, so it doesn't throttle
>thinklight
>MUCH lighter and smaller
>better palmrest which won't break after being hit on the ground
x220t
>bigger and heavier
>better screen
>touch and pen input
>no thinklight
>no 9cell battery
>plastic screen holders usually breaks after month or two of usage
>can't use WWAN when in tablet mode
>shit cooling system, i5/i7 CPUs overheats and throttles
>>51249794
Okay, but what's your answer? Telling me to die is pretty harsh.
so.. I have $500 and I'm looking at these X220 ThinkPads. Should I spring for a newer ThinkPad? I never tried the chiclet keyboards but if I can get something newer, I'd prefer it really. I think the xx40 series are the only ones that don't have the clit buttons, which IMO were retarded to take away. Is the X230 for example better than the X220 etc?
Anybody have a x200t, how do you like it? I ordered one and intend to run BunsenLabs on it and use the touch screen to make shit OC.
>>51249818
here's your free (You)
how portable is the w520 along with 8lbs of additional stuff? coming from a guy who wants a pretty powerful consulting laptop
>>51249801
>>shit cooling system, i5/i7 CPUs overheats and throttles
What if I redid the thermal compound?
>>51249933
I said shit cooling system, not shit thermal compound.
>>51246140
You're doing God's work, anon.
>>51246406
Buy ebay gift cards then. I've bought probably 50 thinkpads on ebay, mostly from recyclers. The most common problem is getting a different laptop than has been advertised. Once I got a w500 instead of a t500, and the other time I got 4 x200s and one x200 when I was supposed to be getting all x200 units.
>>51249598
i've bought 2 x220t's recently, both the batteries last around 5-6 hours which is pretty decent for a second hand 6 cell
>>51249832
x230 gets you a 3rd gen CPU, but a shittier keyboard
i think you can switch it with an x220 keyboard tho
>>51248934
do u care about colors and viewing angles? shits vibrant af boi
>>51249913
I wouldn't bother. It's like 8lbs with the 9 cell and then the AC adapter is like another 1-2lbs.
>>51249629
Fingerprint-gui works for t400 and below. I haven't tested it on anything newer. It is very gimmicky. If you care about your privacy you should be using diceware to create passwords anyway.
>>51250051
>shittier
lol u dum nigga
>>51248934
i never thought IPS mattered but after moving from an x200 with a TN to an x220 with an IPS i could never go back
about to buy a T450 from lenovo outlet for $550.
was considering buying a used x220 and maxxing it out, but I think new is better.
T400, fully loaded save for 2GB of RAM and a small 160GB hard drive but it has most everything else: the ATI GPU, 1440x900 IPS panel, WWAN card in it (that works with my carrier, go figure), original 9-cell with a lot of wear on it but I'll replace that soon enough, original AC adapter, in outstanding shape overall, almost no cosmetic damage whatsoever.
$40 at a pawn shop this morning.
It's a great day. ;)
>>51249850
I like it. I get 3-4 hours out of the used 6 cell that came with it. I don't have any use for the touchscreen, so I'll probably be getting rid of it for a x200s or something similar. I already have a dankpad so I just need something portable to take with me.
>>51250132
>T400
>IPS
heh
>>51249709
cpu
Sup /tpg/ I finally got my T420. The battery it came with is absolute garbage and I need ram for it.
Thinking about getting a 9cell and 8GB of ram for it. What price points should I be going for?
Really don't want to overpay.
>>51249556
>edge
>1366x768
>first gen i3
you got memed all over kiddo, better hope you can return that shit
pic related, perfect condition T510 I got for $95, literally half of what you paid
>>51250254
15-20usd for a 9 cell.
Ram depends on which brand. What configuration do you have now? It might be better for you to replace the smallest ram stick you have now with a 4gb stick. You could get a 4gb stick for about 20 dollars. Honestly, an ssd would be a great upgrade.
Why is it so hard to find a good deal for an X220?
>>51250092
The point of adding a fingerprint reader for me wouldn't be privacy anyway, it'd more be to make it a bit faster to unlock my laptop and avoid the occasional mistyped password.
Though if the support isn't that great it doesn't matter enough to bother with.
>>51250320
It doesn't have any ram at all at the moment. What SSD's would you recommend?
>>51250392
>it'd more be to make it a bit faster to unlock my laptop
[SWIPING INTENSIFIES]
>>51250090
FUCKKKKK
in before dyel
>>51243060
Hi guys I need a thinkpad with a serial port and a paralell port.
Must be able to run linx and x86 any suggestion? I already have a x220
>>51250392
I used fingerprint scanners to clock in at work. Shit just doesn't work.
>FINGERPRINT MISMATCH
>FINGERPRINT NOT DETECTED
All the god damned time.
>>51250414
Ssd depends on your needs. I just bought a cheap 120gb Kingston to install packages on. I use the ultrabay for a 1tb hdd to store files.
I'm in the UK boys, just started a computer science degree and I need a thinkpad so that I can actually take part in group work and shit. Got a budget of £700 however I don't really want anything other than a hopefully 1080p screen and a reasonably sized SSD for that, which I assume won't take all of that money
Any suggestions? Will most likely be trying to run lunix on it although that might end up being a dual-booting kinda thing
>>51250492
>buying Kingston after they tried the old bait and switch with their nand
yeah, no
crucial/sandisk/samsung/intel are the only good brands
>>51250528
Hit up ebay and find the cheapest T450s that matches your specs.
What uni?
>>51250549
Nottingham mate
will take a looksie now cheers
>>51250382
nobody wants to sell theirs
Where do you guys go to get good deals? Ebay is full of people who are willing to pay too much.
>>51250569
Nice, was thinking of applying there for EE but chose other places in the end for my ucas.
RAM/SSD are piss easy to upgrade, the important thing is the screen
>>51250535
I didn't know about that scandal when I bought it. The performance loss doesn't matter to me, but I wouldn't have given them my money for ethical reasons if I had known.
>be me
>about buy T450 on lenovo outlet
>one left
>add to cart
>mfw "this item is out of stock"
>>51250320
>15-20 for a 9 cell
what planet are you on? They're like $50 easily for a genuine.
x230, the best thinkpad ever made
>12,5" IPS screen
>6cell battery with 11 hours of battery life
>i5-3320m with 8GB DDR3L-1600 RAM
>180GB Intel 520 SSD
>USB 3.0, wifi n, BT 4.0, WWAN
>fingerprint reader, low light camera
>hd 4000 which is enough to play gaymes on native resolution
>cost me $250
prove me wrong, fags
>>51250628
I just bought one on ebay for 13usd. It's advertised as genuine, I'll see though. The generics are a much better value anyway.
>>51250644
x250 exists and will eventually cost $250 in a couple of years
>>51250594
it's really lovely here, couldn't recommend it more
not too scared of upgrading stuff but it's just a ballache having to actually get off my arse and search for this kinda thing, never cared about laptops before
>>51250644
shit keyboard
x220 is better in just about every way
>>51250711
yeah, especially in 32nm overheating way
also
>shit gpu
>no msata 6Gb/s
>no backlit keyboard
>no ddr3l option
Also the new keyboard is very easy to clean up, unlike this autistic hipster 7row abomination in x220
Installed Fedora 23 on my X200s last night and seeing as I was idly scrolling past this thread on it, I figured I might as well report in.
Gods, I really need to get to switching in an AFFS panel (it's the version with identical screen to X200) if I'm going to keep using this. These viewing angles are unforgivable. Is any seller other than on Ebay recommended?
>>51250254
Alright guys this is what I've found so far
For SSD:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Crucial-M4-128-GB-Internal-2-5-CT128M4SSD2-SSD-Solid-State-Drive-/262133821808?hash=item3d0864b170:g:97gAAOSwI-BWP2sU
For RAM:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-8GB-DDR3-1333-PC3-10600-SODIMM-Memory-for-Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-/371284307399?hash=item567244edc7:g:6lwAAOSwBLlU8qSa
For 9 Cell:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/GENUINE-9-cell-T410-T420-W510-L410-E420-Edge-14-Edge-15-battery-55-IBM-/141375751104?hash=item20eaa6c3c0:g:ymMAAOSwpDdVAHDc
How is that looking so far?
>>51250711
>2015
having a GPU that doesn't support OpenCL
>>51250790
>used SSD
is this nigga serious
>>51250800
What I am is seriously poor. If you guys can suggest something better in that price range then please do. Thats kind of why I came here for advice.
>>51250855
Just buy the cheapest new one you can. Hard drives and ssds are not something to buy used unless you perform regular backups.
>>51250882
I'm guessing I should steer clear of that battery as well since its used.
>>51250936
>used batteries
wat r u doon
an x220 i7 will have less battery life than an x220 i5 right?
>>51250982
No shit.
>>51250936
Yeah. Just get a generic if you're on a budget.
>>51250968
Being dumb apparently...
>>51250982
this all depends on battery and what tasks you do, if it's idle all the time on lowest brightness screen they both will go the same time.
>>51250982
if you actually make that i7 peak then sure.
>>51250790
Alright since I now know that I'm mouthbreather-tier when it comes to picking batteries and SSD's please at least tell me that the RAM is fine.
>>51251139
I haven't looked at it myself, but seeing as you describe yourself as "seriously poor", I have to ask if you actually need it? I'm guessing it has 4 GB already and it may well be that would suffice without pains, depending on your use case.
>>51251139
Used ram is fine.
x230 is the best laptop. Prove me wrong.
I want an oldschool thinkpad. Which one should i get?
What OS should i use?
>>51250789
I refuse to use fedora because of it's name.
>>51251615
>An OS you can tip.
>>51251444
>gimped 6 row
>can't use 3rd party batteries
>can't modify wlan whitelist
>>51251444
They don't make it anymore.
My L420 from 2012. I haven't had a single problem with it.
Anyone else have a L-series Thinkpad here?
>>51250528
Is your Uni full of mac fags too?
>>51250790
I think I have successfully pulled my head out of my ass. How is this selection now?
SSD:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SanDisk-SSD-120GB-120G-Plus-Solid-State-Drive-A-520MB-SEC-New-ct-/131626706515?hash=item1ea5902653:g:UDgAAOSwhcJWHIX6
RAM:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/8GB-DDR3-1333-MHz-PC3-10600-Single-Stick-Sodimm-Laptop-RAM-Memory-MacBook-Pro-/361128224110?hash=item5414eb656e:g:WPsAAOSwQJhUc9ne
9 Cell:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-cell-Battery-For-LENOVO-ThinkPad-T410-T410i-T420-T510-T510i-T520-T520i-42T4733-/121539715920?hash=item1c4c54e350:g:VesAAOSw8d9Ur0sP
It all comes in just slightly under my budget.
Are the E/L thinkpads really that different to the T series?
>>51251892
>SSD:
>http://www.ebay.com/itm/SanDisk-SSD-120GB-120G-Plus-Solid-State-Drive-A-520MB-SEC-New-ct-/131626706515?hash=item1ea5902653:g:UDgAAOSwhcJWHIX6
piece of shit
bought one about 4 months ago, let it sit in its box for 3 months. it died last week
samsung 850 evos are pretty cheap and have better warranties
>P50
>has numpad
Man I miss the days you could get a 15.6" laptop without numpad... fuck that shit fucking fuck.
>30% discount on T, X and W series using the EPP discount at the moment
>>51248644
what OS is that? Elementary?
>>51243629
this pls
