There's everyday about 5 threads like this but whatever
Since I'm going to pick my components for a Gaming Build I started with the CPU.
I'm going with Intel and I'm probably going to buy an i5 cpu, since I've heard and read dozens of people say the i7 is not worth it for the money.
Can people with i7 please tell me if there's any other reason to buy one, other than showing off and just having the money for it?
Please tell me why I should buy one.
Pls no amdfags
>>51239425
>no amdfags
Just get the i7, goy
>>51239425
A little known secret is that you can get a Xeon CPU for the price of a i5 but the power of an i7. And most motherboards are compatible with Xeons.
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=19-117-316
>>51239548
Eh.. it's a compromise. You gain hyperthreading, but lose the igpu (lol) and overclocking.
I'd still go with an i5 K for gaming.
>>51239665
This.
You'd benefit more from an unlocked i5 for gaming.
>>51239455
yes all goyim should buy an i7!
>>51239697
I only bought an i7 because they haven't invented an i9 yet
>>51239425
For a lot of things, the i7 is leagues better than the i5. Gaming, however, is not one of them.
They are better at everything else
But if the only intensive thing you do is gaming, I guess at a certain budget i5 is better.
Even then I went i7, not only because I want to emulate ps2 and gamecube/Wii in 1080p+ but also because over time more and more games get a boost from an i7, not a ton, but there are some, and I had a good budget.
You can probably fit an i7 into a gaming build's budget if it's 700 or more, most people think they can't because they're going by logical increments and they think they need a $70 case and a $50 mouse etc.
i7s just have hyperthreading for 70 ish more. If you want to game, go with an i5, most games can't utilize it yet. Use the saved money for a better graphics card
>>51240862
How come when I turn off hyperthreading on my i7 it makes performance worse? Like, GTA V for example. I got massive stutters that I didn't get with hyperthreading on.
Serious question, no trolling. Is that game just better adapted for more threads?
>>51239665
Why the fuck would you use the iGPU for gaming?
>>51239425
>There's everyday about 5 threads like this but whatever
>I know you people hate people shitting in your house but I'm gonna do it anyway!!
>pls no toiletpaperfags
>>51240903
Why would you turn it off?
It increases performance for most applications, so of course you take a performance hit when you turn it off
>>51240909
Quicksync is cool
>>51239425
If you can afford it get a 5820k. DX12 will offload work onto the cpu.
>>51240795
Logical Increment is a nice start but they are balanced builds.
>>51239425
if you run lots of mmo bots or do video processing or some shit like that, get an i7
otherwise, an i5 will be perfectly fine for any games
>>51240938
But wouldn't I get similar bad performance on an i5 without hyperthreading, since turning it off just makes it work on cores the way an i5 does?
If you do nothing else at all ever and only use this build for gaming purely 100% then save a few dollars and stick to i5. If you're not poor, will use the system for more than gaming, overclock like any competent PC user should, use SLI or care about overall performance instead of budgetary constraints go with an i7.
If you have to ask just stick to a fucking i5 and go away.
>>51240996
God all of xpsc stuff looks like dogshit.
>>51239425
Longevity, i52500 guys will try to tell you otherwise, but there are issues. i'm on i7 2600 everything is smooth, HT is actually starting to pay off recent years.
>>51240909
Hence the lol. There was more advantage to the Xeon last generation when you could skip the expensive overlocking chipset to save more.
>>51240909
>>51240909
>>51241024
>>51241024
Retards detected. iGPU is useful for a lot of modern games and can be a good power saving option for certain situations.
>>51241034
I think they're making fun of it because ideally, you'd buy a dedicated GPU. You are correct, though.
>>51240903
I don't even
this GTA 5 looks like shit I hated the first 3 games and yet its shilled everywhere, total garbage almost as bad as pay day two and plays almost the same way and both still shit. its all crime and shit.... so boring.
My frame rates is all placebo.
Also i had a p4 with hyper threading it was garbage , skylake best be better
>>51241013
>covered in circles
no thanks
>>51241066
You can take a shit on a corrded ek block and it'll still look better than the stuff xspc pushes out.
>>51240862
>hurr muh gayms can't into more than 4 threads
stop repeating this bullshit, it makes you look retarded nigger.
>>51241239
He said most you cumgoblin, which is correct
i7 chips last longer. An i7 920 will still play games fine, but an i5 750 will nearly shit itself on modern games.
>>51241282
it's the principle of it, intentionally holding people back from buying i7's is not a good thing.
i have i5 regret but at least it's a haslel. probably gonna sell it for a 4790k eventually.
>>51240903
If you would understand how threading works you would have answered your question y ourself. The OS and other applications are just fucking your shit up, because you have to use more clock cycles than if you had hyperthreading on to attend them hence the stutter.
>>51241058
>as bad as pay day two
step off m8
>>51239425
atleast if you aren't going to i7, then you definitely should get amd :^)
>>51239425
Get an i7. Games are already using more cores/hyperthreading and this will only increase in the future. You don't want to skimp on the cpu because they are a pain to upgrade and a high end one will last a long time and save you money in the long run from not having to upgrade so soon.
>>51240909
You use it for non gaming and non intensive tasks, that's the point
>>51242071
>pain to upgrade
>remove heatsink
>remove cpu
>replace cpu
>replace heatsink
if that's a pain in the ass for you, get the i7 so you never have to do that you pleb.
>>51242132
its basically rebuilding the rig and you probably have to get a new motherboard and maybe ram vs just unplugging and plugging in a new gpu
and when you factor in the speed of advancements in cpu and gpu it makes sense to spend more on a cpu over something thats gonna be replaced in a few years
>>51242275
think about what you're saying. upgrading from an i5 to and i7 you're using the same fucking chipset/mobo, the same fucking socket......
nobody is talking about upgrading a 2500k to a 4790k.
shit son do you know where you're shitposting???
>>51239425
The 6600K overclocked is nearly as fast in games as the i7. The reason to get one for that purpose is mainly resale value but unlocked processors in general hold value well.
>>51242300
are u dumb why would u upgrade an i5 to an i7 with the same chipset?
>>51242476
if you have to ask
>>51239425
if you have a competent cpu right now, hold off, amd could pull something incredible out their ass with zen and we will see prices go way the fuck down to compete, or they will fail and this is the last time you would ever have to wait... personally i wouldn't want to take the bet.
as for i5 over i7. the same argument can be asked why go an 8 core i7 over a 6 core for gaming,
you dont see the direct benefits in benchmarks alone, but you do tend to see them in real world performance, if something kicks in in the background, for me it was windows update always pinging a full core to 25% or indexer also kicking in for an added 10-20% use
with an i7, it softens the blow a fuck load more than it does with an i5.
also take a look at it this way, if amd fails with the zen, than this cpu will last you a good 6+ years before you would see significant enough performance gains to make an upgrade worth it, so why not go with an i7 that you can overclock... i suggest a 4790k or a 4720K and try to hit 4.5ghz,
>>51242497
unless you are going to get the i7 for less than the difference between the two now, it would be wasting money in the long run.
I budgeted for a 4690k
Microcenter price matched a 4790k down to $230, which at the time was the price of a 4690k.
Otherwise, you don't need one, an i5 is fine for non content producing people.
>>51241304
my fucking amd phenom II 955 is a stronger cpu than than i5... first run i7's were kind of shit. second run was the big fucking leap in performance
>>51242300
Jesus you're fucking retarded.
Leave /g/ and don't come back please.
>>51243474
>non content producing people
Bought an i5 for logic and ableton
Am I fucked?
>>51240944
>Quicksync
Enjoy your shit video quality.
>>51243968
Nope.
>>51240909
i use quick sync for recording shit in OBS
For recording footage (35k bitrate, 60 fps 1920x1080) its really good since it takes 1% of cpu processing. Well you could use nvenc, but not sure if it works so well.
For streaming quick sync (at least with the igpu in 2500k that i have) isnt fantastic since it needs more bitrate to deliver the image quality.
Probably doable in the never igpus
If you have a friend (or if you yourself) work retail, you can forge a paystub and get a super sweet deal on an i7 from intel retail edge. At least you could last year, I don't know if they still do the holiday deal
>got my 4770k for $100
>>51240795
>$700 gaming build
>i7
good goy
A $700 gaming build should have an i5-4460 tops. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WgVhQ7
>>51240903
Additionally, GTA V stutters like absolute shit on two cores. It's unplayable on a Pentium G3258, but runs perfectly on an Athlon X4 860k.
>>51241526
no you shouldn't
>>51242275
>removing heatsink, removing CPU, replacing CPU, replacing heatsink
>basically rebuilding the rig
I kek'd.
>>51244468
That it does anon, that it does.
Is there any reason not to go with the 6700K over the 4790K nowadays? I'm thinking of building a new pc for like $1200 and selling the budget one I just recently built (FX-8320/4GB GTX 960) for $600-700.
I'm also kinda wondering how a 6700K/4790K would do with my old GTX 460 while I wait for Pascal to come out.
>>51240795
Emulating the wii on dolphin runs on 2 cores. Most emulators run on single or 2 threads max. For both of those cases, an i5 with better single core (OC headroom too) will peform better in those cases.
The only time the i7 is worth it is if you heavily heavily multitask or render 3d animation.
Save the money and use it to buy a better GPU. Its well known the gpu matters more than the cpu for gaymens
