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>>51226604
my X2's are coming
can't wait!
Does EQing make all similarly priced headphones sound the same? Or are there specific characteristics that the headphones retain even after EQ? Can it make muddy headphones stop sounding muddy?
>>51238283
>similarly priced
y'all niggas really gotta cut that shit out
>>51238283
eq is really fucking complicated stop screwing around with your headphones.
>>51238262
>X2
lel
>>51238338
stop posting desu
>>51238381
turth hurts familia
>>51238394
you're just retarded imo
So I'm being a cheap ass and buying the E10S. Is it worth it paying that extra amount for something like SE215, IM50, RE400?
>>51238283
no. yes. usually no.
every headphone responds to eq differently, in some the difference or lack is more apparent.
in most cases eq is better at subtraction than addition, and it also depends on the portion of the fr, and how large the peak/dip is.
raising bass with eq often gives poor results, especially with open headphones. lowering treble peaks often yields good results. often the character is retained,
so raising the bass in something like the 598 makes it louder, but it does not give it impact and mudiness is more apparent. you cannot eq the 598 to have the same bass as an X2. lowering the treble/upper mids on the v6 makes it much more listenable, but there is a bit of sibilance and graininess retained. v6 is a strange case though. most measurements don't show the upper mids and treble emphasis and don't show how bassy they can sound.
>>51238283
>Does EQing make all similarly priced headphones sound the same?
Sometimes
>Or are there specific characteristics that the headphones retain even after EQ?
Yes, distortion, it usually worsens after eq'ing, also you can't eq everything due to the limited SNR soundcards have
>Can it make muddy headphones stop sounding muddy?
Maybe, you can try
Joe Bloggs has a nice EQ guide in headfi
>http://www.head-fi.org/t/615417/how-to-equalize-your-headphones-advanced-tutorial-in-progress
>>51238348
beyershill? sennshill? akgshill?
>>51238403
because i called out your bullshit?
your eq isn't remotely accurate, the chances of me spelling out a word with my dick slamming on the keyboard is higher than your eq being accurate.
Bcbcbbfbfbfbfbcbf
>>51238487
>he listens to his colored, garbage headphones instead of improving them with some basic EQ
i'm kekin m8e
What are some good phones for dith meal?
>>51238478
f a m i cant control the fact that akg is best, maybe philelps should get a neutral sound.
>>51238500
>+50db on all sliders
>I LOVE eq!!!!
even better
>+.01db on 128hz
>hmmm yeah theres less veil now and the channels are no longer imbalanced. I'm a genius.
>>51238528
>my colored shit is better than your colored shit
lmao headphonefags
>>51238538
stop projecting
>>51238528
ah okay, I have no quarrels with you. I almost went with the k7xx/k712
is there any IEM under $150 with mid-centric soundsig? All I hear and got is either nigger bass or V-shaped.
>>51238594
se315
>>51238279
learn to measurements
question for that retarded australian newfag who posts like an autistic shutin, recently gota trip and has like 15 headphones now
what stepdown transformer do you use for the srs-2170
>>51238616
How about under $100? se315 feels so underwhelming to me. The fact its priced over $150 in my shithole didn't help too.
>>51238635
decepticon
>>51238646
re400
>>51238441
>>51238476
So if I were to, say, EQ the HD600, X2, and HE-400i, what would be the main differences?
>>51238508
X2, poratpro. v6 is nice after eq but it's a bit too harsh with some recordings. ue6000 and mad dogs are nice too but a bit laid back sounding. pretty much everything sounds decent if not amazing on an m40x.
>>51238679
creating bass and treble in the hd600 out of nowhere would sound bad compared to the other two which have bass and treble
>>51238528
AKG is nobass shit with artificial sounding upper mids and highs. only the k612 and k7xx/k712 are tolerable.
>>51238538
>>51238500
EQ is necessary, regardless of your headphones, unless they were modeled after your ears
It's actually pretty easy to fix the worst peaks in most headphones
>http://www.linkwitzlab.com/reference_earphones.htm
>>51238691
Sony v6? Also are there any sennheisers that could sound good?
>>51238679
bass would be the most noticeable difference, in favor of the x2 and 400i. mids would favor the hd600 but not by as much as the bass is lacking. so it depends on what you want. highs on the 600 are more balanced but the other two do not have bad highs per say, none have very harsh highs ala dt880.
>>51238742
with metal? no. some of the closed models would be passable but the open ones sound downright bad with metal, electronic, rock.
>>51238756
x2 are v shaped, they have treble peaks as well
400i as well as he-560 are a little bright in the treble while hd600 are veiled
>>51238774
oh wow, so is sennheiser just for classical or somethn?
>>51238722
whats up with those quincy jones ones? they shit?
>>51238635
>Using a step down transformer for a walwart power supply
Don't be retarded. Just get one in your local volatge and swap the polarity of the plug or get a universal one from spritzer. http://www.mjolnir-audio.com/diy-supplies/
Either way is cheaper than a step down. You get one of those when you have a big amp that you don't want to rewire.
>>51238791
lol wut
>>51238821
what is the main purpose for sennheisers?
>>51238476
>distortion, it usually worsens after eq'ing
Headphones aren't linear compliance. So no.
Distortion in the typical THD has no bearing with decent headphones.
>>51238283
>Can it make muddy headphones stop sounding muddy?
Mud is usually just FR, so usually. FR dominates in almost anything.
>>51238441
Stop.
>>51238775
>>51238756
>>51238712
Is there any strengths that the HD600 has over the X2, then? Does EQ remove the X2's supposed 'muddiness'?
How about the X2 against the HE-400i or other planars, then?
>>51238836
hating bass and treble with a passion
who /ad700/ here
>>51238868
>i bought these ugly purple and gold headphones with absolutely no bass because they're popular in the gaming community for having good positional accuracy
>>51238775
the x2 are like a mix between v-shaped and dark, they're not outright v-shaped like the dt770 or 990. you're right about the hifiman but personally I find the sennheiser veil has more to do with the bass, mids and upper mids than the highs. the perception of the highs lacking comes from masking of the upper mids either through a dip, bloated midbass, no bass extension or a combo. it depends on which measurements you trust though. many have the 600 with very nice highs and the 598 actually has above-neutral highs on some measurments but they still sound a little veiled. the 558 and 650 sound more veiled and muddy than the 598/600 because of more midbass imo.
>>51238791
open sennheiser sounds best with classical, acoustic-centered, and vocal-centered music. it's the mids that really shine, female vocals sound very nice in my experience.
>>51238797
q701 is just a green k701 iirc. highly regarded years ago but overrated now. k240 monitor measures well but it's ancient.
>>51238897
honestly, I notice no difference between them and apple earpods in CSGO. positional accuracy is the same.
But for the price I got them they sound the best in terms of music. and I don't like bass either
>>51238836
things are usually exaggerated here
headphones worth hundreds of dollars (aside from beats) wont just sound 'downright bad' with certain genres unless you are extremely picky/have other expensive headphones on hand to compare them too
>>51238861
>>51238898
k so im thinking of getting this
http://www.amazon.com/Philips-X2-27-Fidelio-Headphones/dp/B00O2Y2MZG
how is it with other music? has to be at least decent i hope
>>51238858
strengths are in the bass and lack of veil. the weakness of the X2 is the mids can sound slightly recessed in comparison and the bass boost might be a bit too much for some. the X2 is not muddy, if anything that would be the sennheiser, though the 600 is not that muddy compared to the 650. the bass of the X2 is a little loose and boomy compared to really tight closed headphone but that's mostly a limitation of being an open dynamic. most open headphones like the hd600 are bass-light. a good planar will usually win out in bass extension over both. I don't have as much experience with the 400i, but I would say the highs will sound a bit more peaky/elevated than the other two but not by much.
>>51238679
Nothing if you EQ it to the same target ideally.
>>51238712
Nice meme.
>>51239039
it's a fact that negative gain is better than positive gain with EQ
Has anyone modded the M50x headband before? Which is more comfortable, the HD600 headband or the HD650 headband? I want to mod the headband of my M50x because the only thing that I dislike about them is that they start to hurt the top of my head pretty soon after putting them on. Here are the two mods I am considering:
>https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/2s6qjr/m50x_hm5_pads_and_hd600_headband_mod/
vs.
>http://www.head-fi.org/t/579875/comfort-mod-hd650-headband-padding-on-the-pro-900
>>51239054
Go spout your meme bullshit elsewhere.
>>51239059
why the fuck would you bother when you could just buy headphones that aren't shit instead
E10S or E50S, E50S are 10 more aussiebucks.
Which one?
>>51239067
it's not bullshit. why do you think you need to lower the gain in preamp to compensate for any gain added in EQ?
god you shitheiser shillposters are really out to ruin every thread with your bullshit aren't you
>>51238936
I would say the only kinds of music that the X2 does not do very well with is heavily vocal-centered music, where the vocal are above everything else. also this >>51238930
if you've never heard something as good most of these headphones will sound great to you. a more experienced listener who owns more headphones will be more critical of these differences.
I will say X2 is very comfortable and beats near everything in terms of build quality.
>>51239090
Keep pretending to know what you're talking about when you clearly don't.
>>51239098
I'm listening to vocal-centered music right now on my X2's with some EQ and they sound fine. Not as good as Snapheisers or some planars but acceptable.
>>51239135
back to head-fi you go
>>51239090
>it's not bullshit. why do you think you need to lower the gain in preamp to compensate for any gain added in EQ?
To avoid clipping
It's much easier to eq only in negative than positive and compensate to avoid clipping
>>51239142
yeah I'm talking specifically about it comparison to my 598.
>>51239185
did you forget the fact that you're effectively raising the noise floor in that frequency range when you add gain
>>51239098
well thanks for the info, prob gonna buy them soon
>>51239194
>having a shit amp
ok senpai
do drivers have anything to do with isolation? or is it strictly the housing/pads?
>hd600
>neutral
look at this crazy ass rollercoaster. it's an insanely inaccurate colored piece of shit.
>>51239215
That doesn't affect amps, it affects DAC's
You lose some SNR eq'ing, shouldn't be a problem if you have a decent DAC and your gain isn't insane
>>51239244
>no markings on Y axis
This is Nvidia/Intel level of graph shitposting
>>51239215
so you're saying efficient headphones that don't need an amp are not EQable because people weren't dumb enough to unnecessarily buy an amp
>>51239229
Mostly housing/pads.
>>51239244
now overlay the DT880 for maximum keks
man DT880 is such a bright, inaccurate and colored piece of shit
>>51239265
at least DT880 are EQable unlike HD600
Dude met an engineer from Univeral years ago, go Sennheiser. They are great had a pair of HD 280 Pro's, a few years back. Sweet headphones!
>>51239014
Nice
$1500 headphones with $300 quality comin thru :^)
>>51239309
just like his speakers
>>51239309
>>51239317
>>51239069
Because I like the "nigger bass," look, construction, portability, and removable cables. The only thing I don't like is that they hurt the top of my head.
>>51239350
why didn't you just buy beats and not look like a redditor in public
>>51239276
nice damage control, the difference is a couple dB at best in the bess
I love how delusional you are when it comes to the hd600, it's like you can't accept it has far superior fidelity to your shitty underengineered piece of shit
>>51239381
>veiled shit
>fidelity
pick one
>he thinks the plastic chink-tier shit is an engineering breakthrough
kek
enjoy your low fidelity $20 headphones
>>51239396
>le veiled buzzword
dat damage control
>>51239396
the veil is a dip in treble. Outside of the dip it has fidelity
>>51239422
>implying veiled is a buzzword
colored and bright also confirmed buzzwords
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ENMK1DW/
$70 for SHP9500
>>51239350
V-moda does all of those itens better, not even kidding.
>>51239633
What would you suggest for ~$150?
>you couldn't afford HD600
>>51240117
more like you wanted high fidelity instead of veiled shit
>>51240137
>DT880
>high fidelity
Good joke.
>>51240160
Compared to the HD600 it is, at least
That's why Sennheiser charge four times the price of the HD600 for their rendition of the DT880
>>51240173
>this is what DT880 plebs believe
kek
>>51240200
>can't even counter fact because it's entirely true
kek
mfw sennheiser literally kek their fanboys into paying $1600 just to finally hear treble and bass
>>51240213
>b-but hd800 is just as low fidelity, bright, colored and inaccurate like my dt880
Doesn't change the fact that the DT880 is a low fidelity, bright, colored and inaccurate piece of trash.
HD600 > HD650 > shit > DT880 = HD800
>>>/trash/ is where the DT880 belongs.
>>51240270
>this much damage control
>this much shilling of flimsy, clampy, chink-tier veilsimulators
Adorable
>>51240285
You sure do seem desperate to reply to defend your shit when you're going around claiming damage control.
Give it a fucking rest already, everyone knows you do this shit every fucking thread.
>>51240296
>he thinks I'm the one desperately defending headphones
are you normally this inept with following conversation in real life too?
>>51240301
You have no defense to your pathetic attempts at your DT880 dick sucking every thread and you resort to petty insults. The fact you do this every thread is pretty fucking sad.
>>51240326
This. Literally the resident permavirgin DT880 defender.
>>51240326
>literally having to strawman now
Holy fuck that's actually hilarious
>>51240333
>Strawman
You retards use this every time you have nothing else to say. I bet you don't even know what that actually means. I'm done wasting brain cells on you, put your trip back on and go back to shitposting about speakers furry, you aren't fooling anyone.
I got a pair of these today
they're pretty good and comfortable to wear wit glasses on
best headset anyway
>>51240296
>>51240301
>>51240326
>>51240328
>>51240333
wtf is this shit
>>51240377
>still can't deny the fact that even Sennheiser realize the DT880 is the superior headphone
>has to invent a position I'm in to defend his shitty veilsimulators because he's too poor for the HD800
>continues to go further off topic and avoid any direct retort
kek
>>51240384
where's your limited edition bo3 gamefuel?
>>51240386
A typical /hpg/ bread
>>51226628
you forgot to call it this thread, too late now
>>51240336
How do you like the MA900's vs the X1's? Can you give some impressions of the two?
>>51240386
A bunch of shilling faggots that argue in every thread. In reality, it's probably two homosexuals that would probably fall in love if they met irl, like Romeo and Juliet, but gay and German.
Still deciding if I want to try a pair of T1's or not. Playing around with the EQ today made me want more mids/treble than the X2's offer. I'd be scared of my ears being assaulted by snares and cymbals. Although I think I'm just looking for an excuse to spend money.
>>51240404
I bought cider instead
Not shilling, just posting facts.
HD558 is more durable than the DT880 as it features flexible plastic that DOES NOT crack.
HD558 is much more accurate to the ISO Diffuse Field Target than the DT880.
HD558 is cheaper than the DT880.
HD558 features a detachable cable.
HD558 is more comfortable and has earcups that are oval shaped like humans' ears as opposed to DT880's dumb circular design that can sometimes pinch larger ears.
HD558 is easier to drive than the DT880.
There is literally no reason to get the DT880 when the HD558 exists. Any rational and unbiased consumer can easily see this.
>>51239014
Thanks for the info.
So which headphones are a better purchase for critical listening (detailed and neutral)? The HD600 or the X2, considering that I would EQ them?
And if the HD600 is better, then which has better bass, the X2 or the HE-400i? Are they good for movies/games too?
>>51240386
The last thread had the same type of combos senpai, the thread before that one too, and the thread before that, and so on
>>51240440
>2015
>ISO Diffuse Field Target
Keep living in the past senpai
>>51240447
HD600 is most neutral stock.
With EQ you can make all of them super neutral.
HE400i has best bass but the rest of the spectrum is inferior to the HD600.
If you're doing EQ just pick whichever you like.
This thread is literally just to rationalize your own purchase and shitpost other headphones desu senpai
>>51240438
T1s are harder to EQ than DT880s and sound worse stock. Don't waste your money
That is if you meant the first gen, gen2 still haven't been measured and QC still hasn't been avulated afaik
>>51240462
It's more accurate on Harman's target curve too if you compare it to the DT880 - which doesn't fit any target curve because it lacks gain in the upper midrange and it has too much gain in the treble.
>>51240478
>avulated
Evaluated jesus christ i need some rest
>>51240483
>nitpicking this hard
HD558 lacks gain in bass and treble regions but of course that totally doesn't matter because midrange is the only thing that matters amirite my fellow AM radio bro
>>51240477
i came here to try and find cute boys but there's obviously none in this thread
>>51240499
shaking my head to be honest family
>>51240510
smfh tbqh faam
>>51240511
shm desu senpai
>>51240511
recessed treble and bass, glad we got that out of the way
looks like the DT880 equals the HD558 in midrange too so it's really no question as to which is better
aight y'all
>Budget
under 150
>Location
USA
>Source
probably either amazon or best buy/any bigbox
>Preferred type of headphone
how i like my cocks
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
medium or better
>Preferred tonal balance
im not that picky
>Preferred music
songs with bass and deep vocals
>Past headphones
shitty panasonic overears and plantronics gaming surround
I was looking at the AudioTechnica but they aren't at bestbuy and are a bit pricey
thanks
>>51240511
What's interesting is that if you listen to these headphones side by side, you will perceptibly feel more bass on the HD558 because DT880's treble emphasis makes it sound bright overall whereas the HD558 has a relatively even spectral balance.
>>51240517
baka desu senpai
>>51240530
>even spectral balance
kek
>>51240544
>can't refute a post
>replies with memes
Every time.
![6fe15de202d4d84a7005a2149ff1bb29[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/PiPZ8Tx.png "6fe15de202d4d84a7005a2149ff1bb29[1].png")
>>51240548
Hi, I'm looking for bass
I've been searching everywhere and I can't seem to find bass
>>51240528
NVX, Takstar Pro80s/Gemini
>>51240562
>being blind
http://ko.goldenears.net/board/5709845
Also the HD558 measures better than this DT880; which doesn't oddly show the nasty treble peak.
>>51240569
thanks, will look into it
>>51240593
>literally can't read
consider suicide, AM radio lover
seriously though why do you nobass, veil, shit build quality enthusiasts even bother wasting money on the hd600
>>51239229
no
>>51239896
>>51239633
problem is the only good over-ear from v-moda is $300
>>51240612
>yfw this chart still has better channel balance than the HD600 normally do
b-but the hd558 sound totally worse, like, $300 worse
>>51238283
EQing can't change transients + distortion + sound stage (Well, it can, but that's also influenced by the physical headphones, so not fully.).
Otherwise yes, and those are all small factors vs FR.
>>51240709
>soundstage
headphonefags please stop stealing terminology from loudspeakers
>>51240612
Both are still better than the DT880. HD558 provides better bang for buck.
>>51240709
Transients, distortion and "sound stage" does not matter.
>>51240734
You keep telling yourself that champ, really justify those purchases.
>>51240447
depends on what you mean by critical listening. hd600 is close to most targets but for listening many would still not like the signature vs the x2 and 400i, which have better bass. the hd600 is known for being smooth and forgiving. something like an hd800, dt800, v6, etc. would give a greater perception of raw detail. neutral is not necessarily good for "critical listening", many professionals used detailed but colored headphones because they emphasize certain details. like the cd900st for vocal monitoring. and while eq is great it's not perfect. adding bass to a bass-light open headphone is one of the worst ways to use it. not that's it's going to sound bad necessarily, but you cannot just up the bass on the 600 and expect it to sound like the x2 or 400i. the 600 is a very good headphone but you have to accept that it's bass-light.
>>51240734
Distortion does, but any good headphone will have it low enough so that it won't.
>Sound stage isn't real
Watch this and say that again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYt7wfASYG0
>>51240749
>being this retarded
Just fuck off back to head-fi
>>51240569
>>51240528
you're never going to find anything worth buying at a big brick and mortar. source means where the music is coming from.
>>51240759
Soundstage is as simple as where the audio sounds like it's coming from.
This is obviously going to be different depending on each headphone, if you don't believe me, watch that video on one pair of headphones, and then another.
It's obvious that where the drivers are located in relation to the ear + general headphone structure is going to change where sounds appear to come from.
Anyone can test this by listening to a video like that, and then switching cans.
>>51240774
Listen to some speakers and you'll understand what soundstage actually is.
Headphones do not have soundstage, they may have something like headstage but soundstage is completely different
Binaural recordings are also irrelevant
>>51240742
Not justifying anything. It's a fact that both HD558 and HD600 are more accurate than the DT880.
>>51240749
Soundstage isn't real, that's just a binaural recording. I fail to see your point.
>>51240774
Sounds no difference wrt direction on my earphones and full-sized open headphones. It's all on the recording, not the headphones 'soundstage' to produce such an effect in the video you shared.
>>51240787
Whatever then, headstage.
Of course soundstage in headphones isn't soundstage on speakers.
But soundstage is the term used for "headstage" in headphones, it isn't really related to soundstage in speakers.
At this point you're just arguing it's poorly named, which I don't really care about, sure, it is.
Either way, it's a characteristic of headphones, that changes with each one.
Especially noticeable if you go from something really open, to IEMs.
>>51240807
Go put on a pair of IEMS, listen to something, then put on a pair of open headphones, and tell me that it doesn't sound like the audio is coming from different places.
My point is that how well the binaural recording works + where things sound like they are coming from will change.
Yes, the recording is heavily optimized for positional effects, but it is effected per headphone.
>>51240807
They aren't though. DT880 have emphasis on a small treble region and HD558/HD600 have roll off in both directions from the midrange.
Going by numbers alone the HD558/HD600 have inaccuracies in 2/3 frequency "ranges" while the DT880 have coloration in just the one
>>51240832
>Go put on a pair of IEMS, listen to something, then put on a pair of open headphones, and tell me that it doesn't sound like the audio is coming from different places.
I just did that, there is no difference in the direction perceived. It's all on the recording.
>>51240839
No, DT880 lacks gain in the upper midrange and has too much treble. Bass output on both is almost the same with the DT880 having better extension by a couple dB, at the lowest octaves there is a bigger margin but it hardly matters in music.
>>51240832
You're also using binaural recordings to emphazie and essentially create 'soundstage' to prove a point.
Soundstage exists in loudspeakers without the need of such recordings, unlike headphones. The positioning of the transducers themselves should be enough to tell you why and how that is
>>51240870
>DT880 lacks gain in the upper midrange
literally 2dB down compared to the Sennheisers at best.
Besides disregarding FR because that can be corrected with EQ, the DT880 have the superior features elsewhere. Build and comfort. HD558 have the proprietary 2.5mm that has a deeper insertion so regular 2.5mm cables cannot be used unless you find one with very thin housing and the HD600 use shitty proprietary connectors. If you're even a little savvy with soldering you can mod the DT880 to be detachable and accept either any 3.5mm, mini XLR or any connector you want without the proprietary bullshit.
>>51240870
Well, then at this point it's your word against mine.
I can pretty clearly hear a difference between where things seem to be located between them.
I'm not saying that sounds that appeared in the front will now suddenly appear in the rear, but the locations of sounds will seem slightly different.
Really, the best way to decide is just rather than trying to believe two anons arguing, just try two headphones, listen to some songs, and see.
It's not just on binaural audio, soundstage is noticeable on anything.
>>51240874
Yes, the binaural audio is isn't relevant, that was just a cool example, with lots of positional stuff to add.
I was never arguing headphones have a speaker soundstage, in fact, I say that they don't here.
>>51240832
What I'm saying is that between different headphones, sounds will sound like they are originating from different locations.
Especially noticeable when going from something really closed, like an IEM, to something really open.
>>51240918
Both HD558 and HD600 are more comfortable than the DT880. The difference in upper midrange is expressed differently on many measurement websites. Perceptibly they do sound lacking in that area and of course we all know it has bright treble.
Regarding build quality:
HD558 > DT880 > HD600.
>>51240984
At least be a little more subtle with your shitposting because it's far too obvious at this point and nobody is going to believe that utter shit
>>51241000
HD558 has been revised with flexible plastic that doesn't crack, see:
>>51240440
It's one of the most durable headphones out there.
Not shitposting, just posting facts.
>>51241023
>facts
>absolutely no evidence provided other than "hey look i stretched the band a bit this has never been accomplished on a Sennheiser headphone before therefore they are now indestructible and 'the most durable headphones out there'"
Just the fact that you would call the HD558 'the most durable headphones out there' illustrates how much you're shitposting
>>51241037
I never said it was the most durable but it's far more durable than the DT880.
Stay mad.
>>51241041
Your lies hold absolutely no ground and it's pretty obvious how considerably new to the scene you are when you make such radical claims such as some headphones which are infamously some of the worst built headphones ever are among the most durable now.
This isn't even about the DT880 anymore but feel free to being them up as a target because it makes you feel better
Why is every thread literally hd600 vs x?
I'm not even exaggerating, every hpg is the same repetitive autistic shit. The same faggots arguing about the same shit using the same charts until it hits 300.
>>51241068
because it's the same shills trying to claim every other headphone is shit
>>51241060
HD5x5 had shit build quality.
HD5x8 had shit build quality on debut.
Sennheiser revises HD5x8's build quality due to complaints on Head-Fi.
No doubt it was shit before, but now it's really fucking durable, and yes, it's still more durable than the DT880 which you seem to think is some sort of benchmark for durability when they're prone to breaking at the gimbal.
>>51241071
The curse of mediocrity?
I don't see any hd800 owners shitposting.
>>51241083
>>51241041
dude just stop. you already got BTFO.
>>51241083
Burden of proof is on you, oh look another DT880 mention because you're so absolutely furious and need to identify a target
>>51241086
I imagine that is the case
>>51241088
No, I didn't.
HD558 is more durable than the DT880.
>>51241097
no one was even talking about the DT880 you turbo-autist.
Just how bad is the isolation of the momentum 2.0?
>>51241107
see:
>>51240918
That faggot thinks the DT880 has better build when it clearly doesn't.
>>51241115
so in >>51240440 you show the HD558's ability to be bent and stretched at the headband.
Congratulations, the DT880 have been able to do that without ever snapping for 35 years
>>51241127
DT880's metal construction is prone to snapping the plastic gimbal when stretched.
The HD558 literally does not snap or crack, it has no build quality weakness like the DT880 does.
Maybe in the next revision Beyerdynamic will use a metal gimbal.
So, I've finally finished decking out my chair with some tactile transducers.
I've got one screwed to the bottom of my chair, and two zip tied to the top.
I didn't really want to mess up the back up the chair by cutting away the fabric to see what's under there so I could drill into it, and tape doesn't hold it tight enough.
So chains of zip ties it is.
The effect is awesome though.
Would highly recommend.
It's awesome when a giant monster is slowly stepping across, the seat vibrates to each step, or when you get a little jolt for each punch someone gets.
It's like turning a subwoofer way up, but without the sound portion, and the permanent hearing damage.
>>51241141
It's really time to stop shitposting and pulling shit out of your ass.
The gimbal is prone to breaking if people attempt to rotate the cups like you would on a portable headphone that is jointed there, or something like a Hifiman. Not to mention the gimbal is made of what HD558 are entirely made from
>The HD558 literally does not snap or crack
It's time to stop posting.
Signs of a shill: They claim a headphone is flawless
>>51241163
No, the gimbal is entirely plastic and the metal headband slider adds pressure to it, it's a design flaw in that regard.
Not all plastic is created equal, the HD558 is made from flexible and durable plastic.
Just go on amazon and look at HD558 reviews.
The HD558 is a superior product and you know it. DT880 is obsolete.
>>51241190
>resorting to Amazon reviews
Man you really are desperate now. HD558 is garbage and you literally cannot prove otherwise.
>>51241195
HD558 build is garbage*
>>51241195
If it was such shit as you claimed surely customers would complain.
Face it, HD558 is superior to the DT880 which are overpriced garbage.
>>51241205
Still waiting for valid evidence to be provided
Sennheiser really don't pay you enough for this do they
>>51241214
Find me any broken HD558, I found one on Google but that's 2011, which are pre-revision units which are shit.
>>51241231
Provide evidence of this revision and the plastic being different that isn't just word of mouth.
I miss comfygrados
>>51241251
That's not a HD558 you retard, that's a HD555.
http://www.head-fi.org/t/541039/sennheiser-hd-598-impressions-thread#post_7317241
![205777_1679296581846_1220482469_31436175_838924_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CnPBZnI.jpg "205777_1679296581846_1220482469_31436175_838924_n[1].jpg")
>>51241283
They're made from the same plastic.
Sorry I don't think I made it clear enough, show me objective evidence. It's not exactly hard for Sennheiser to say something is something.
Like their Helmholtz resonator meme
>>51241301
see:
>>51240440
Again, feel free to find any HD558 that's been broken in the past few years (>2012).
Oh wait, you can't.
>>51241323
What if I just get an hd 558 and forcibly break that part?
>>51241328
>he can't find a broken HD558
HD558 confirmed for being better built than DT880 shitcans.
lol you guys are still baiting and fighting over which headphones you wanna marry or worship i'll take my leave and go for good
>>51241335
It's hard when people smartened up and stopped buying them after all the people complaining about them cracking and snapping
>>51241301
>Like their Helmholtz resonator meme
I'm not stupid enough to fall for the HD800 meme.
>>51241348
>being this desperate
>>51241352
If people still bought them Sennheiser wouldn't have to employ you to shill in these threads would they
>>51241378
I'm pretty sure that Sennheiser sells far more headphones than Beyerdynamic.
>>51241395
see
>>51241107
it's laughable that you have to just keep bringing up Beyerdynamic
just buy some of you really want them that bad
>>51241406
Why? A $100 HD558 is far superior to a $250 DT880 in sound, build, comfort.
>>51241417
>"x(Sennheiser product) is shit"
>"b-but Beyerdynamic sux mor!!!"
>"Who said anything about Beyerdynamic?"
>"lol Sennheiser is btr than BeyERMDYNAMIC!!!!!!!"
>>51241432
first day on /hpg/?
>>51241474
every day on /hpg/
>>51241480
Since when?
>>51241480
It didn't use to be this way.
What happened man, what happened.
>>51241346
its not just /hpg/ all of /g/ is like this
dying board
>>51241490
Sales dropped, shills were hired
>>51241490
ComfyGrados left, someone had to replace him
Went to furmeet tonight
everybody was using beats and skullcandy's....
I busted out my stax setup with a car battery and power inverter and showed them all what's up.
>>51241515
>Went to furmeet tonight
>Stax owner
As expected
Custom one pro or DT 770 for closed backs?
>>51241535
770
see if you can still jump on that adorama deal for $125
>>51241515
Oh please, stax has an amp just for this.
The SRD-X.
I've got a nice little man purse I can put the whole thing in and carry it while walking too, but I can't seem to dig that up, and don't feel like assembling it.
Man, it's been a while since I posted this.
>>51241554
Post more STAX, save these dreaded threads from endless shitflinging over mid-fi garbage
>>51241572
Eh, why not.
I should take some more pictures at some point, these are two years old now.
>>51241597
You never had problems with dust?
>>51241611
Nah, that's what the dust filters built into them are for!
That's also why I never took these guys outside, the dust filter on them was slowly crumbling away.
post your buy history /hpg/ how did you go from apple earbuds to now?
shit
3 pairs of superlux hd681s
ath-im01
shit ik but im new
>>51241661
I've never tried apple earbuds. Is it that good?
>>51241632
why does it crumble away?
Aha!
Finally found it.
The whole e-stat family.
I really should get some newer pictures.
>>51241681
Age.
Those are from the early 90s.
In the end, it's just foam, and it degrades with time.
I really should get some new pictures.
>>51241694
are your ancient staxs sound better or worse than a hd600?
>>51241694
Here's something a bit lewd.
>>51241704
How are the electrets? I was going to get a pair a few years ago but decided against it because they had imbalance problems
>>51241703
IMO better, but it's a close call.
I'm actually am quite fond of how the SR-3s sound.
>>51241714
Solid.
I've got a friend who actually prefers them over all other headphones, including my lambdas.
Problem is they are uncomfortable.
(Plus I still wouldn't place them over the full e-stat ones).
I'm just gonna get lewder here, posting a hole.
>had my 650's and fiio e9 for over a almost 2 years
>still sounds awesome
>still looks new
I have a feeling I won't need to buy a new one of either for at least another 10 years. I might need to replace the padding though.
This is one of the cooler pictures, shows off the e-stat drivers nicely.
Maybe show off isn't the right word, considering how they are pretty much transparent in this pict.
Alright, last Stax pic.
Okay Sennheiser shills you can go back to ruining the thread now the STAX fun is over
Are Sony MDRs the best headphone under $100?
Can EQ remove the 'boomy', 'uncontrolled' aspects of the X2's bass? Or will I be better off getting the lower-end Hifiman planars?
>>51240641
M-100 is not $300 anymore.
>>51242032
That would probably involve lowering the bass a bit and adding gain to the sub bass frequencies as the X2 have pretty bad extension
>>51241987
If you're biased towards them, then yes.
HD 518 are good for 70$?
>>51242149
Yes.
>>51242119
So I'm guessing that I'll be better off just saving up for a HIfiman then, like the 400i? How's the build on those things, anyway?
>>51242237
Build on all Hifimans is pretty bad.
With that said, just don't be rough with them and they should be fine. You really should be taking care of your headphones no matter how much you pay for them but it should be a no-brainer at the 400i's price point
>>51242265
Is there a good alternative for the 400i with similar sound and price but better build?
>>51242327
Not as far as open planars go, or bass in an any open headphone for that matter
>>51238262
Is this the new meme headphone?
>>51242408
>new
Which headphone sounds good on the bus AND at home?
>>51242489
literally any closed one
I posted this in the last thread but it died so:
I know you guys generally hate gaming headsets but is the HyperX Cloud II worth it? I've heard good things about it. Have some cookie cutter ATH-M50s myself but my friend really wants a mic integrated into the headset (Yeah iunno).
>>51242489
MSR7
>>51242510
Be a good friend and let him borrow your setup for a few days.
bleh
>>51242510
Isn't the HyperX just a rebadged Takstar 2050/Pro80?
>>51242514
Shillanon, you might just sold a pair of headphones. Tell bossenpai to give you a bonus!
>>51240918
The proprietary connector can be removed in less than two minutes with a single small phillips head screwdriver. Allowing you to insert this adapter right the fuck up that hole:
http://www.amazon.com/Exclusives%C2%AE-Adapter-Converter-Headphone-Earphone/dp/B00CXX8748/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1446979081&sr=8-6&keywords=2.5mm+to+3.5mm+adapter
Allowing you to have a 3.5 mm cable of your choosing. Or a boom mic. Or whatever the fuck you want.
Has anyone tried the Audio-Technica ATH-R70x?
How do they compare to the HD600 and the DT880?
I'm planning on getting Audio-Technica ATX-M40Xs tomorrow or so. Can I get anything better/more balanced in this price range? (+/- $20). I live in Europe. I listen to music from either my smartphone or laptop (indie, classical, nothing very noisey).
>>51238418
A-Anyone?
AKG K702 is £150. Should I get it?
how do i stop my x2 from leaking dye
