>"a-anon-san I-I don't think can handle latest games anymore"
>"you can sell me off and buy a new one if you want, I won't get mad. I will always love you."
>"I'm sorry for getting such l-low frames"
>"C-Cough sorry anon-sama I'm little dusty, I'm doing my best!"
Discuss about graphics card new and old alike
Pls keep bully to minimum
R9 390 master race
>>51228566
no, fuck you
now i'm sad i have to replace my trusty amd card
Who's waiting for crimson update?
i'm perfectly fine with my 770
i love her, worked perfectly since day one
Not planning to upgrade anytime soon
>>51228725
Aye cap'n.
>>51229038
Are you happy with your 8320E? Was it a good purchase?
Also that 290X overclock is ABSOLUTE MADMAN tier.
>>51228566
>isn't that like a hard drive full of games
i laf evertim
Just installed this. Absolutely fantastic card, can't even hear it.
>>51229102
>Are you happy with your 8320E? Was it a good purchase?
Given I got it specifically for overclocking I sure am. In most modern games i'm getting i7 levels of performance when my cpu+mobo+cooler costs as much. Power draw is insane under 100% load but thats the drawback.
Certainly the money I saved even compared to a K i5 (I would never buy a locked chip) went into buying an aftermarket cooler for my 290x after I got into heavily overclocking it.
>Also that 290X overclock is ABSOLUTE MADMAN tier.
I can get it to run at 1220 core but i've not done enough testing to ensure its rock solid. The voltage required though would make your eyes water.
>I actually fell for the 970 meme
Why the fuck didn't I listend to /g/? Why the FUCK did I buy this 3.5GB piece of shit?
>>51229144
Can't decide between that or the 980ti. I'd save about $300-400 with the Fury and a Freesync monitor but I've barely heard anything about it other than it having some coil whine. Either way it's gonna be a huge upgrade from my 5850.
>tfw fell for the 970 meme
>card arrives
>realize its not a meme and actually a decent card for 1080p
>>51229504
This
Runs everything really well, no issues so far.
>>51229504
>playing games in 1080p
Why not get a PS4/Xbone instead?
Alright, /g/entoomen, you guys are my only hope.
I have an HP computer prebuilt, I was a faggot back then, sue me. The motherboard is an OEM-locked one, made by Foxconn for HP, I have tried several gpus, so far the R5 230 seems to work. I tried nVidia 660 GTi, R7 240, R7 250X. The motherboard in question; Foxconn Cuperino-H61 it's microATX, Intel chipset, I need a better card for gamedev and playtesting games and play games when I take a break, etc. Given all this, I know not many cards will work with my computer and I should build my own and I will after I get muh funds. But what would be the best possible compatible card that is better than the R5 230?
>>51229504
Id rather have an amazing card than a decent card.
Nvidia fags BTFO
I'm still running a 660
what should I upgrade to? £350 ish
don't care if it's AMD or nVidia
>>51229533
Huh? The fuck you on about?
If you have a x16 PCIe slot and room for 2 I/O slots, any card will fucking work.
>>51229522
That's a really ugly dog. Look at its weird little legs. Can it even swim like the breed is supposed to?
I have an 8800 GT and am not upgrading until 16 nm cards are released.
>>51229597
Except it is not, with the nVidia I got a prevideo error, computer beeping 6 times in a row, the r7 et al either no display or stuck at bios splash screen.
>>51229554
Holy shit you got him there
>tfw bought a cheap 2nd hand 780ti OC
>tfw it runs everything amazingly even at 1440p
Amdfaggots mad as fuck
>>51229619
What kind of PSU do you have? Are there any power connectors you need to connect to any of those cards?
>>51229532
To play at 144fps. You CUKS don't understand that a smooth experience is worth more than a high resolution.
>>51229641
No it doesn't.
>>51229677
100 fps is more than enough for that, you got placebo'd faggot
>>51229677
But with PC you can get both.
>>51229686
Eeuh, yeah it does, anno 2205 high settings aa on, runs smooth as fuck, just an example. Witcher 3 high settings, aa on, smooth as your underage ass
>>51229592
R9 390
>>51229659
All video cards I had required no extra power connectors, except one, which I did connect properly, yet with no success.
>>51229705
>>51228566
>tfw when I only need a pc for the internet and films and I use my ps4 for the odd bit of gaming here and there.
The fan fucked up in my gt 610 so I bought a fan-less one and now its silent and cooler than ever, I really am a pleb when it comes to pc's but i'm 27 and have no interest in getting a strong pc for games.
>>51229730
>ultra
>>51229412
What issues are you having with it?
And what are you talking about memes for? the meme is that it's 3.5
>>51229777
Do you think going down from ultra to high will claw back 30fps?
I still have two GTX 480's (1.5 GB) in SLI and the absolute lowest frame drop I saw in Far Cry 3 at highest settings and 1080p was 37 FPS with an average in the mid 60's. They also double as a space heater which is nice.
>>51229689
I did not. I was as sceptical as you before my R9 Fury arrived - the integrated Intel HD 4600 doesn't go over 60fps.
After I had all set up I fired my computer and moved a window around. I did it for a minute or so to be sure I had the feeling in my mind. Then I went to my settings and changed the refresh rate to 144 Hz (from 60 Hz).
I proceeded to move the window around. It was marvellous.
THen I decreased the refresh to 120hz and I could feel that I lost smoothness, it only got worse the lower I decreased the refresh rate.
tl,dr: get your eyes checked
>>51229412
970 was fantastic GPU for the price. Is still, sorta.
Though I dont think it is as good for the money now that AMD has dropped the R9 3xx GPUs.
>>51229728
Do you know the wattage of your PSU? A PCIe card can still up 75W if I'm not mistaken
>>51229799
I think he does
>>51229799
yes, reduced texture sizes and post processing adds up really quick senpai.
>>51229853
>>51229799
lol wait who said he was getting 60fps
>7950
>want to upgrade
>know that next year well have hbm2 and dx12_1
The wait is killing me
>>51229886
The only reason people gloat is because they can push 60fps.
Pic shows why some settings should be left off.
>>51229900
>upgrading from tahiti
Just overclock it.
>>51229886
>smooth as your underage ass
>>51229905
Idk it feels like the card is kinda fucked and I dont want to push it any harder in case it is
>>51229533
Get a new PSU. Prebuilts have shit PSUs, I need to put a GPU in a work computer for specific software and the PSU is like 200w
>>51229913
>being this original with your d4nk m3m35
My trusty-dusty 670 is still running like a beast.
God I love the 670, 2500K meme from 2011. Both still are amazing.
>have a 770 MSI
>felt it really shitty lately and that nothing could maintain 60
>someone told me to OC my i7 4770k
>now everything runs at 120 or more
>even games that shouldn't run on max, can maintain at least 65-70fps
>even games that supposedly my 2gb VRAM shouldn't be able to handle
Is my video card possessed?
>>51228566
My laptop has Intel GPU which kind of like a Yandere waifu that will never leave my side. So we are together for a long time.
>bought my 970 last year, one month later the 3.5gb fiasco happens.
should i just sell this card and get a new one or wait till prices drop
>>51229846
I have a 750W PSU
>>51229967
Read >>51229999
It's all covered.
Running this awesome beast. Goes to 1110mhz on core at stock voltage. Fans don't even kick on until 60C. I can play games like dark souls 1 and 2 maxed out at 60fps on a 2560x1440 panel with only being cooled passively. I had the r9 290 version of this in xfire but one had a bad ram module so they sent me this 390 as RMA replacement. Dont see myself upgrading anytime soon.
>got a shit overclocker though. Anything over 1150mhz bo matter the voltage the card refuses to stay stable. My old r9 290 can do 1300mhz at 1.3v with the liquid nitrogen BIOS flashed.
The whole Hawaii architecture doesn't fet enough credit imo. My buddy bought the MSI Lightning 290X when it first came out. Got the custom full cover water block for it as well. He runs it at 1450mhz core/ 1700mhz memory 24/7 at 1.4v. The fucker pulls 430 watts from the wall by itself but that's irrelevant.
>>51229989
>ivy bridge iGPU on kernel 4.2
So smooth out of the box. intel on linux makes AMD and Nvidia look like retards.
>>51230007
A 750w from chairman mao on a shanghai street is a bit different from a EVGA supernova.
>>51230012
Push that shit to 1200mhz.
>>51230024
Exactly. I am having so much fun on 15.10 without bothering with any driver bullshit.
>>51230007
Sharing speccy screenshots
>>51230031
I have a CoolerMaster 750W
Why don't they make true triple slot coolers any more?
>>51230050
>>51229980
What are you on about ? I was quoting >>51229705 you fucking idiot.
>>51230070
>>51229532
Yeah because pc gaming is just about the resolution and not mods,community, or pc games such as mobas or rts
>>51230081
being this autistic
>>51229532
>PS4/Xbone
>1080p
kek
>>51230104
Now you are the meme spouter
>>51229989
Yandere waifu is best kind of waifu in my opinion.
Considering getting 980 or 980ti atm. Will then upgrade when next gen is out
My 970 died, but I got the money back. What should I buy?
Should I buy the 980 Ti and say fuck it or are we too far into this current gen. and buying a 390(X) and selling it in approx. 1y is the better alternative?
980 is in a non-sweet price spot, 970 is 3,5GB (bought it before that was clear), Fury has only 4GB (I know that might not be an issue except in badly optimized stuff like eg. the newest CoD). ahhh so many options...
>>51230086
So no one has any idea what gpu would be best to get for this prebuilt machine that gets as close as compatibility like the R5 230?
>>51230206
Buy the 390, sell it next year and then go balls out on a flagship.
What can I get my 970 zotac OCed to?
>>51229144
Going to order it on monday, how is stutter? People keep complaining is it real? Rumor is it will be fixed with next w10 build +shader cache+whql next couple weeks.
>>51230206
>buy 290x
>bios flash to 390(x)
>>51230238
1400-1500mhz is the typical upper limit. Also: lol memory overclocks.
>>51230256
No need, see pic.
>>51228566
>pic
>comments
that's how /g/ would talk if I showed them a piece of hardware from a car or something.
>>51230282
Damn I know what a starting handle is and I know how to use it as well!
i r so pr0
>>51230265
isnt the 390X underclocked? usually the VRAM is around 3000MHz
>>51228566
>mfw when I sold my GTX580 milf to get a 7950
Why
>>51230282
But I am tech and car savvy senpai
>>51230053
Mini ITX is new HOT thing apparently.
>>51230206
Do not get a 390x whatever you do, it's literally 3-5 fps in most games over a 390 for $100+ more. AMD is really jewing people with that shit.
>>51230316
In that test yes. The pic is from a test [H] did to show there is no difference in the chips at the same clocks.
>>51229905
>3200x1800 downscaling
>with SSAA
I know you were trying to see just what the thing can do, but holy mother of cunts why? At that internal res 4xMSAA should be more than enough
also,
>motion blur
makes my eyes bleed
>>51230222
The Sapphire 390 Nitro looks pretty good. It's the same price as the 290X 8GB Tri-X (which has a worse cooler) and the 390X Tri-X (a shame they didnt put the Vapor-X or the Nitro cooler on it).
So essentially the 390X = 290X except for Fans stopping in idle and 8GB VRAM (also few 290X have this). Did they add the features like FTR etc. to the 290X aswell because at release of the "new" series it was limited to them.
>>51230362
>but holy mother of cunts why?
It was a heat test - I wanted to see how my cooling would hold up with that overclock under the most stressful load I could muster because furmark is a power virus and not realistic at all.
>>51230392
That's what i'm going for, apparently it's best budget card for 1440p, plus this gen sucks buying flagship now is waste of money.
>>51230422
Those who bought hawaii late 2013/early 2014 must be feeling pretty smug about now.
>>51229900
>>51229900
I know EXACTLY your feels anon. I got the Fury X on release because I upgraded my monitor and wanted the most out of it, but if I hadn't wanted 144fps at 2560x1440, I'd STILL be on my 7950 waiting for HBM2 / 400 series.
>>51230392
>1500Mhz capable VRAM should also be the norm for the 390x, compared to 290Xs which are lucky to hit that. The 390x draws a little bit less power, and most batches clock a little bit higher with a little bit less voltage.
Same card, yes technically
Slightly updated chip (like Tahiti's XT versus XTL/XT2), yes
Better VRAM, yes
Just playing devil's advocate by the way
>>51230522
"greater than"*
I can still play everything at max and 60 fps @ 1440p with my 970. If any recent game can't do that it's poorly optimized
I've got an AMD Radeon 6950, time to upgrade?
>>51230522
hmmm shit. so 290X with slow 8GB vs 390 nitro it is then. will have to think about that.
>>51230210
Goddamnit /g/, since the internet and searching for every possible answer did not work, I came to you for my last chance of getting a good card for my prebuilt shitmachine, I will be custoim building when I have enough money, which'll probably be in a few months, until then I want to upgrade my GPU and be productive and stop sitting on my ass all day, doing nothing.
>>51230559
of course it is. Witcher 3 barely hits 2GB in fullHD while the recent CoD is able to consume 6GB of VRAM when maxed out,
>>51230577
You don't need fast vram on hawaii as it has so much bandwidth. The extra cores on the 290x gives makes it faster.
Naturally though those 300 coolers are beastly while not many 200 coolers are as good (this only matters for overclocking).
>>51230583
G E T
A
J O B
>>51230583
Well,
It sounds like the problem exists between the chair and the keyboard....
Either one of your components is broken or you actually don't know what you're doing/not telling us everything
>>51230630
Way too autistic to properly do my job, I got fired for being dysfunctional once. Never working again.
>>51230634
As all my previous posts and including the speccy screenshots:
>>51230086
>>51230070
>>51230050
>>51229999
>>51229728
>>51229619
>>51229533
I have done and told you everything that I tried, yes, I double checked any cables that weren't plugged in, they were, I checked my motherboard model on the HP website, doesn't give me anything on videocards, I checked this website for compatible graphics cards on certain motherboards (my motherboard isn't listed), since my computer is prebuilt and the motherboard is custom tailored for HP, the BIOS being customized as well (I guess), there is not much to go on.
>>51230699
Have you tried looking up the PC model and seen if anyone else has these issues?
Generally GPU compatibility lists don't exist because I have never, ever heard of a motherboard that only works with certain ones.
That ain't how shit works. It's plug and play, if it has a PCI-e bus, it will accept whatever fits. The rest is up to drivers.
Sounds to me like maybe you don't understand what a clean install means or why it should be done,
And at this stage I'm not your fuckin tech support.
>>51230740
I tried looking up the PC model, mostly they are the partially the same issues but easily fixed then my problem.
I tried a clean install and on a few AMD cards I tried R7's it froze at the BIOS splash screen. You're right about the plug and play though, I even called up the place I ordered the cards from and they said since it's an OEM-PC, it's a bit of a guess work, which card works and which one doesn't. I just think I should salvage this and turn it into a server or something and buy a custom built PC.
OEMs a shit.
>>51229412
Fuck off AMD shill, there's nothing wrong with it
>>51230839
>nothing wrong
Still rocking a 780, not seen the need to upgrade. On demanding games like the witcher 3 I just put AA to 2x msaa, pop shadows and foliage distance down to high and medium respectively and play at a consistent 60fps at 1920x1080. I am wanting a 1440p monitor soon though so will need to take the plunge. I reckon it has atleast another year left in it yet!
>>51230905
I would just game on console if I were as poor as you tbqh
>>51228566
I'll never replace you
I always make things with my old gpus : D
<3
>>51230966
Sorry I forgot everyone Is a millionaire on here.
If my budget for a PC is around $1,000, what gpu should I get?
>>51231004
I decided to get a 390 instead of a 980ti because $900 is just too much for a GPU and I'm not constantly playing demanding games nor am I an fps autist (even console FPS doesn't bother me most of the time). I just hope it doesn't shit itself constantly at 1440p.
>>51230247
Never noticed any stutter, and that's at 1440p
>>51230265
no need to bios the 290? If I could get better performance why not update the chip?
I do understand the purpose of your picture.
Finally retired my 9800 GTX after 7 years of reliable service. RIP good friend.
Also, fuck you DirectX 11 for forcing me put him down.
>>51231775
> If I could get better performance why not update the chip?
Probably because you won't get better performance - the 390/x have better vram chips that lets them clock so high (not that you can't overclock a 290 to 1500mhz ram, but its not a sure thing). Its a hardware, not a software thing.
>>51229853
>>51229799
I want /v/ to leave.
Generally what uses fewer watts under full load? Amd or Nvidia?
>>51231970
so it's a shot at getting a 390 for 100 bucks cheaper?
>>51232562
No.
>>51232744
Right now? Nvidia - but only just.
>>51232761
Indeed - for high end vidya the 390 is the champion of price vs performance unless you can get a good 290x for similar money.
I'm seriously considering an R9 290 reference. I can get it for $220. Is there any reason I shouldn't?
>>51232954
Its a shit-tier cooler. Only buy reference if you are going to slap either a custom cooler (such as pic related) or a waterblock on it.
I prefer the rajintek morpheus but that thing is MASSIVE.
What's /g/'s opinion on amd's Nano?
Worth that price?
>>51233053
Shit-tier price vs performance, god-tier form factor. Its only competition is the chibi 970 which it murders and buries in the woods.
>>51233040
I will later, but for the moment it's going to be better than my R9 280, and after the aftermarket water cooler I should be able to get it to 390 tier performance. Only 4GB of ram though.
>>51233141
>I will later, but for the moment it's going to be better than my R9 280
Roughly 40% better.
>Only 4GB of ram though.
That doesn't hold it back at all. 4gb doesn't even hold you back at 4k.
If I'm happy playing games at 1080p max graphics, should I still not buy the GTX 970?
I've been playing on a shitty desktop for so long that getting 60+ FPS at 1080p is awesome enough for me.
>>51233207
Depends on how you want your 60fps - minimum or average? This is important.
>>51233232
I'd really like to keep it at 60 minimum for most games at either high or max graphics settings.
is there a single slot water cooled 980 yet? I'd like to replace my 580's sometime down the road.
>>51233332
Then you need to go waaaaaaaaaay above a 970. 60fps minimum is fucking hard and requires serious hardware as the only real way to do it in games is brute force. Same with your cpu - 1080p still cares about cpu performance so that needs to be up to the task.
Witcher 3 for example needs a overclocked 980ti at least to push 60fps minimum at 1080p at max.
>>51229412
Proof or gtfo amd shill
>>51231039
Buy a 980 to hybrid and cheap out on everything else.
>>51233496
Alright, maybe not super intensive games like Witcher 3 or Battlefield. Is a R9 390 or a GTX 970 not enough for most games? I was thinking a i5-6500 or 6600k CPU because I'm wanting to stay around the 1000 dollar mark.
>>51230206
980ti, top tier or bust
>>51233496
What are you smoking?
I'm playing witcher 3 with all on ultra + hairworks except foliage distance (high), hairworks AA x4 (max is x8) on a msi r9 390 default clocks and i5 2500k @ 4.2Ghz at 1080p and hit 54-60 fps almost constantly.
Pic related
Where is my new nvidia cards at?
Also, I bought a cheap fractal design 12 cpu cooler thinking i'd be able to put it on a gpu some day. I've seen it for other brands like corsair.
Any idea if I'll be able to use fractal designs with other brands, like some kind of universal mount ala NXZTs version?
>>51233635
They are good for 60fps average in the latest and greatest moreo rl ess, but 60fps minimum in current games sin't going to happen. Note: just because you can push every slider to maximum doesn't mean you should - many options (such as SSAA) cause an enormous performance hit but provide a fairly marginal increase in image quality.
Plus some games simply cannot do 60fps minimum due to engine stalls and whatnot (ARMA III is a classic example of this).
tl;dr be sensible with settings and you will do fine.
>>51233710
That isn't 60fps minimum I can assure you.
>>51233635
I don't know about a 970, but I assure you a 390 gets either full 60 fps or above 50 for sure at max in 1080p with games that aren't spaghetti code, also games that don't get you max fps with a 390 are either biased towards the opposite team (gameworks cough cough) or drivers haven't included the optimizations yet due to game being relatively new.
>>51233739
No, minimum is 54 so far, and sure, at a 1% of the game it might get lower, but 99% of the time it's statistically closer to 60 so the difference is irrelevant.
What is not irrelevant is trying to tell someone that "you might not get the performance you are hoping for, unless you go for a cruiser ship", when it's actually the opposite, with a budget crown card you will get 90% of the time the performance anon asked for at the moment.
>>51228566
is it wrong to be sexually attracted to your graphics card?
>>51233710
Absolute fucking bullshit. You're not getting anywhere near a stable 60fps with HairWorks on and just about everything cranked on a 390. It literally doesn't work that way. There are tons of videos on Youtube that prove you're full of shit, so why even bother with such an obvious ruse?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HdFdNwbYbT8
No, really.
When are the new nvidia cards coming?
>>51230256
What benefit does flashing 390x bios on 290x have besides having a constant overclock?
>>51233939
NEXT FUCKING YEAR FOR FUCK SAKE.
>>51233943
None.
980 Ti master race reporting in. 53 C idle.
>>51233957
WHEN IN NEXT FUCKING YEAR, COULD BE FUCKING 2 MONTHS OR 13 MONTHS
>>51233919
Read:
https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/834905/pc-games/real-reason-why-witcher-3-hairworks-reduces-fps/
So no, I'm not full of shit. I just read about this, gave it a try and was blasted when I saw 60 fps with all on, thanks to amd being able to set tesellation on CCC lower than what nvidia uses.
>>51233971
>53c idle
Oh god what the fuck. Unless you are using a 144hz screen that is.
>>51233978
SHIT NIGGA WE DON'T KNOW, Q2 AT EARLIEST IS BEST BET RIGHT NOW.
>>51234000
2x 4K 60 Hz monitors
>>51234002
Probably isn't downclocking at idle.
>>51234014
When it's running GTA V at 4K 60 Hz, it stays at 80 C. There's probably some problem with the airflow, but this case is very open so I can't figure out why. Might need to put more fans than stock...
>>51233919
Also I can take screenshot anytime of my game settings, even record me playing. I just didn't want to spend the time doing so when already other people has done it and checks out.
It's you who hasn't been keeping up with the discussions about the game performance and still carries the first charts people did when the game was released, in mind.
As I said on another reply, you can't say something about a card for it's initial performance, there's always optimizations and fixes after a while for most problems.
>>51234014
>>51234028
Seems to be downclocking to 405 MHz on idle.
>>51233040
Damn I fancy this cooler.
>>51233913
I don't know desu, I don't think so.
>>51234028
Yeah probably just need to focus the airflow over the gpu.
>>51234052
>Damn I fancy this cooler
Yeah but it doesn't double as an attack drone.
>>51234054
Do you think that one of these right next to the gpu might solve that?
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-fan-co9050009ww
My case seems to be this one, or very similar to it: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-case-750d
>>51234117
Cases like the 750D are enormous - a couple intake fans should be more than enough to cool any gpu. Given your temps i'd assuming a reference cooler. Off the top of my head the fan end of the generic nvidia cooler is open - so getting airflow into that will go a long way.
still have a radeon 5770 somewhere because it's too good to sell. like the price you get doesn't match the quality.
currently have a gtx 670 ftw, but just got a 4k monitor
>twf playing on windowed mode because you paid too much for your card at the time and still think its too good to sell.
The best way to get bangs from your bucks is to wait enough between generations.
Personally, I never upgrade my graphics card unless it's at least twice the performance of the old one. By the end, you have to turn some settings down, but it's all for good.
You need to be strong and resist the urge to upgrade.
This way, when you do upgrade, it's fucking amazing. Crank those sliders up and enjoy.
Hell, I played Crysis at 800x600 on my Athlon64 2400+, radeon 9700pro at very low settings.
Here's my history btw.
S3 virge 4m(no 3d!)->3dfx2 12Mo->GeForce 2 MX->radeon 8500->8500 died so kyro2 on a budget (worst graphics card ever)-> radeon 9700 -> Geforce 8800GT ->radeon 5850-> radeon 7970.
It's about time to upgrade again. Sure a 980Ti is about twice my 7970. But it's too expensive to my taste.
Is there any brand of 980ti I should keep an eye out for? Both good and bad.
Black friday coming up so I'm sure will be on sale since the prices have dropped plenty recently.
>>51234067
100% gpu usage temps when gaming?
i get 71c on my 290x vapor-x
>>51234191
>Personally, I never upgrade my graphics card unless it's at least twice the performance of the old one
Thats a good guidline as right now it works out to (roughly) a 2-3 year cycle. A random example: a 290x is on par with 7870 crossfire but has plenty of added advantages that makes it superior.
>>51234164
Ok thanks! I'm using everything stock. There aren't any case fans next to the GPU, so only one in the front of the case, and one next to the GPU. I'll buy a fan and put it next to the GPU to see how it does.
>>51234234
Stock clocks as this used to be a tri-x (I got into ehavy overclocking after buying the card). The vapor-x is great but it doesn't have shit on the morpheus.
>>51234244
If you get turbulence have it as exahust.
>>51234244
>>51234258
Ops, I meant CPU the second time I said GPU.
>>51234234
>>51234258
Plus a heavy overclock. This was tested at 3200x1800.
>>51234191
>Sure a 980Ti is about twice my 7970. But it's too expensive to my taste.
lol.
290x> 2*7970
980 ti > 2*290x/390x
Why does Speccy think my GPU has 2 GB RAM when it should be 6 GB?
>>51234286
280x is tahiti at 1Ghz, which is what I have. So 47% of an overclocket 980 Ti
>>51234313
Because it's shit. Use aida instead.
>>51234286
>ITT we fail at statistics.
>>51234326
The lightning isn't overclocked. It's just a 980 ti without being limited by the shitty throttling stock cooler. If an oc'ed 980 were on that chart it would be 130%.
>>51234377
nevertheless 47% seems pretty close to 1/2 to me. And it costs a lot more than my 7970 did.
>>51234377
The 980ti lightning is quite underwhelming - it doesn't overclock any better than other high end 980tis. The 290x lightning for example was (and is) a monster of its series and iirc the 780 lightning was no joke either.
Maxwell just does not respond well to voltage all told.
Who /7870waitingforarcticislands/ here?
Anyone who "upgrades" from 28nm to 28nm is a dumb idiot.
>>51234398
Scaling isn't 100% on gpus, especially not on older crossfire without xdma.
Not even 4*280x is enough to beat a stock 980 ti.
trying to get a good gpu for £100, at the moment all I am finding is GTX750ti.
Any better suggestions?
>>51234454
Dude, let's be clear, I was never talking of SLI/crossfire. I tried it once, it's full of fail and returned the card within 12 hours.
So I need a single gpu card that's twice the performance for about the same price before I upgrade.
The 980Ti Lighting is 50% more expensive than what I paid for my 7970 DirectCu II 3 years ago.
>>51234474
used 7950 off ebay is the best value you can get
>>51234282
i have a prolimatech mk-26 on shelf, would this cool better than my vapor-x?
>>51234454
4x 280x is a LOT of horsepower anon.
>>51234474
For 20 bons more you can get a 370 which is faster. Or probably a 270x for that sort of dosh. Stepping down you are looking at a 360.
Also >>51234513
>>51234520
I would guess so with some decent fans. It is built to handle a TDP of 320w (the vapor-x is good for around that but probably at much higher fan speed). Problem with the vapor-x is dismantly the vapour chamber itself is a bitch and I wouldn't want to.
2xSLI Strix 980ti + G Sync master race
>>51234554
Wrong file.
>>51234409
Expanding on what you said. Maxwell doesn't respond well to voltage because they're literally at the physical limit to what the architecture can do. We knew this even before the 980 ti was released. With basic 980s easily hitting 1500mhz. There's only so much you can do without LN2.
>>51234554
>G Sync
Intel says YOU LOSE.
>>51234541
370 is trash value, it's a rebranded 7850 kek, he's better off getting a used 7870 which would only run like $80 these days
>>51234596
80 burgers is different to 80 bongs. Besides i'm looking at brand new prices.
>>51229987
760 MSI here. The 760 and 770 do really well overclocking. I'm able to run Witcher 3 on High/Ultra and my lowest fps is about 50 in Novigrad.
>>51234626
The point is that it's cheap as chips you halfwit
>>51234286
This is the 2n time I see someone post that image to say a 980ti is twice a 290x/390x.
The difference is 30%, so it's just ~1/3 better which is x1.5 times better, not twice! what the hell? To be twice you would need a 50% relative performance vs the 980.
>>51234587
Depends on how you perceive it. Cup half full/half empty etc
>getting a 500mhz oc on stock voltage
>no temp increase and onky 10w extra power consumption
>>51234595
Freesync doesn't support lightboost/ulmb. It's cheap because it's shit.
>>51234626
nothing wrong with buying used. worst case scenario the card was used for mining and the fan will be worn out, you can get an accelero for like 20 bongs to replace it.
used 7950s/7970s are such a bargain these days that you would be mad to buy brand new. if 14nm cards with newer feature support were out I'd say maybe get the newer card, but atm there's not much point buying new.
Why is this happening?
Who /270x/ here?
>>51234513
>>51234541
OK Found a few 7970 on ebays for around £80 but i see they need 2x8 pin power connectors, seems quite power hungry
>>51234674
I never said used was a poor decision, but new naturally has some advantages (such as warranty).
I would personaly also seek out a used 7950/280 as tahiti is the GOAT architecture and its tonga replacement stil lwants loads of dosh.
>>51234676
Got a 144hz screen or multiple screens?
>>51234696
Tahiti is no thirstier than kepler but yeah, at £80 i'd be all over a 7970 if you can feed it juice.
>>51234696
don't tell me you're trying to put a decent video card in your shitty 300w dell office computer PSU
If you have any good quality 500w unit it will run the 7970 without issue.
>>51234696
Is it a Ghz edition? If it is, go for it.
>>51234667
Because when people say twice as fast they mean by regular gpu scaling standards, not a linear 100% double the fps increase. Anyone who uses the latter is retarded.
It's like using using Celsius instead of Fahrenheit when talking about hardware parts. It's an obvious unspoken rule that any competent person follows.
>>51234742
doesn't matter either way. ghz edition are just slightly better binned chips
>>51234742
Even if its not, the ghz is just an upclocked 7970. Most 7970's are good for 1100mhz or so with a decent cooler and thats some respectable performance even today, 3 years later.
See: 280x on this (note the resolution).
>>51234750
No, twice as fast, means 200%. I don't even what you're talking about.
>>51234724
>Got a 144hz screen or multiple screens?
I have my monitor running at 120hz. Whenever I boot my computer temps are around 40 but climb to ~61 before the fans kick on to stabilize it around there. I've tried changing my power settings in both Windows and the Nvidia control panel as well as changing my refresh rate to 60hz. Core clock still stays maxed though and temps remain high.
>too poor for 390
>380 doesn't feel worth upgrading from gtx760
380x when ? I have a friend returning from the US in december, i hope they'll release it by then
Also, which 390 is the best ?
>>51234782
>No, twice as fast, means 200%.
I lost.
>>51234724
So your advising 7950 over 7970?
>>51234727
Oh no, got i7, 8gb DD3 ram and Be Quiet L8-CM 430W psu. got a shitty GTX 460
Can 380X save AMD?
>>51234807
Reinstall windows, you're connected to a botnet.
>>51234750
Sorry but I don't get your reply, you could round up 1.5 to 2 if you accept such a huge error, in this case, but the explanation about Celsius and Fahrenheit is losing me, you can convert in between them more or less accurately with enough precision, so why the rounding up to boost the impression the card is vastly better than it really is?
>>51234836
Anything less than a miracle will not save amd.
>>51234833
>Be Quiet L8-CM 430W psu
Actually that's kinda pushing it. Those bequiet's are good quality units but 430w is still a little bit of a stretch.
What generation i7 is it? if it's a newer haswell/skylake one they are quite power efficient, but if you're trying to cram a Nehalem i7 with a 7970 onto a 430w unit it might not be happening.
>>51234833
>So your advising 7950 over 7970?
No i'm saying either of those are good if the price is low enough.
>>51229592
Gtx 980
>>51234872
It's Nehalem I7 sadly, so i guess something like 280 would be more efficient?
>>51234880
Thanks :)
>>51234782
>>51234824
Exactly! 980Ti is 150% vs the 290x/390x, not 200% as the other anon was pointing out. It might not be that much but anon comment about being twice the already twice difference would mean a 400%, when in reality is the 150% of 150% which would be 225%. The error is huge by his approximation, in reality the card is 2,25x times a 7970, not 4x as anon implied here >>51234286
>>51234915
280 is identical to 7950. Same tahiti chip.
Your options are way more limited now... What are you upgrading from? You mentioned looking at a 750ti in your original post which means you must have some trash gpu at the moment, in which case a 7870 would still be a good upgrade and you could run it. I'd recommend that
>>51234824
Anyway, back to first post,
>>51234191
I was just expressing my thought on general guidelines for upgrade policy, so as to not kill your wallet, and have decent results.
I think it to be pretty reasonable.
Now with 4k, I'm pretty puzzled. I would need twice the fps output, at 4 times the amount of pixels + buy a monitor.
So that amounts to 8 times the performance.
Do I need to wait 10 years?
>>51234949
An angry 390x will match a reference 980ti. An overclocked 980ti though? Yeah thats on its own only rivalled by an overclocked titan x.
>implying I couldn't just put liquid helium on my 9600gt, overclock it to 15,000MHz and smash all these newer GPUs
you guys are all suckers
Am I going to burn my house down if I attempt to CF a 390 and 290X on a 650W PSU?
>>51234968
I currently got Gtx 460
>>51234866
>>51234949
You guys are overthinking it.
Does two of X perform equal to a single Y?
Then it's twice as fast.
It doesn't matter if a single X performs 30% or 60% of Y.
It's not about linearly.
>>51235016
I'd think twice.
Remember: pic related is watercooled so it runs cooler (and thus draws less power) than 2 air cooled cards.
>>51235016
Please don't.
You should always put a wide margin on your PSU. That way, it goes easier on its component, as it's just chilling.
I used to barely enough power with nonoame psus. Looking backward, it's no wonder I lost so much hardware. I literally had one catching fire while playing CS in a LAN.
whats the best card at 150 max?
i don't play anything all that demanding
>>51235120
150 what? Bongs? Burgers? Dollarydoos? rechbux?
>>51235120
Integrated graphics.
>>51234987
Well I was interpreting and questioning the interpretation of that specific chart, I have no clue about the true performance of both cards.
Problem with performance charts is that all hardware depends on the software, sometimes there's a drive release or patch for a certain game/app and the performance of a component is favored by it vs the others.
Also the higher tier you go, the lesser performance/$ you get so unless you have the money I don't see the point on going for the most expensive thing just to get a extra performance you might not even notice or ever use.
But everyone buys what they feel they need so, hey, to each it's own.
>>51235077
Uh, no, watercooling doesn't make cards output less heat, the heat is just transferred and given off to the environment much better.
In fact, adding a pump will increase total system power draw.
But yeah, that looks not optimistic. What if I power using a separate PSU?
>>51235101
It's a CM PSU. Would adding a secondary PSU work?
>>51235132
...dollars
>>51235132
Second hand cards.
>>51235166
Hotter cards consumes more power.
How do you not even know this?
>>51235074
Yes it is.
if X performs 30% of Y, how could two of X perform equal to a single Y? I may consider upgrading to Y if price is same as when I bought X.
If X performs 60% of Y, then two of X is 120%. so the performance increase of going from X to Y if 100/60 = 1.67 - > 67% increase. I may consider it at a discount.
>>51229144
Yes brother, I'm truly impressed with mine too. Very good in my VM, unlike Nvidia cards that turn up error 43 (self destructing drivers that want you to buy a quadro for VMs).
I might try my luck overclocking at some point, I have a theory that AMD has started converting chips originally binned for Fury-Xs into Furys as overclocking results from recently purchased cards behave like Fury-Xs.
thoughts on the pic related ? apparently they feature backplates now
>>51235149
You speak the truth. I just find it interesting that a chunky overclock can easily gain an entire tier in performance.
>>51235166
>Uh, no, watercooling doesn't make cards output less heat, the heat is just transferred and given off to the environment much better.
You are right it doesn't but gpu cores and certainly vrms scale in effeciency with temperature. The cooler you keep them the less power they need to draw to run as they should. Keeping a card at 50c will draw less juice than the same card at 80c.
See the top 3 pics in this chart. The middle chart is clocked the highest yet has only maringal more power draw than the lowest clocked card cos its kept cool.
>>51235193
Adding watercooling doesn't reduce the power output or power draw from the card itself. It will just dissipate heat much better. The power usage by the GPU at full load can only be changed with overvolting or undervolting, over/underclocking, or changing the power target.
Physics, yo.
>>51235179
thats fucking retarded
>>51235221
Probably best 390 money can buy - only competition is from the msi 390 and the powercolor PCS+.
Sapphire fucking killed hawaii cards as they offered (and still do) the best coolers.
>>51235074
>Does two of X perform equal to a single Y?
>Then it's twice as fast.
Yeah
>It doesn't matter if a single X performs 30% or 60% of Y.
>It's not about linearly.
Of course it matters!
single X 60% of Y == 167% Y of X.
single X 30% of Y == 330% Y of X!
It DOES matter, that's why they are
represented by numbers not stickers with whatever flavor you feel like putting in there.
>>51229460
I was really worried about coil whine before buying this card, but mine seems to not suffer from any high pitched annoyances. It has a little bit of that fast ticking noise under load, but it's much quieter than the 'buzz' of every other GPU I've owned, and inaudible in a fractal define case.
>>51235231
You can't use those results, get a chart with a card and then the same card with a water block. These are non-reference designs with overclocking in mind versus reference designs and judging from that jet turbine AMD put in the R9 290s, reference did not have OC in mind.
>>51235250
>Adding watercooling doesn't reduce the power output or power draw from the card itself.
Uh yes it does lol.
A non throttling card working 100% at 0c will consume significantly less power than the same non throttling card working 100%.
There's a physics law behind this, maybe some science fag can tell us. I don't remember since its been so long since high school.
>>51229460
>Can't decide
Dude, I know it's hard, but honestly, those 28nm cards are just too expensive.
I'd wait for the next generation, as they should be cheaper, because less silicon.
>>51229782
My 970 works flawlessly. I hate nvidia desu but its quite, does not complain, and gets the job done. That plus a good monitor is a godsend
>>51235325
Resistance of silicon doesn't significantly increase for the region we are working with. Adding a water cooler doesn't invert physics. The GPU will still require X amount of power to make its calculations and nothing in the world is going to change that, from blasting hot air to it to pouring liquid helium on that shit, still gonna require the same amount of power to do its job. It will only throttle to keep its shit under target temperatures/power consumption but merely performance is affected but the power it needs is still the fucking same.
In fact, adding a water cooler will add another device to the system that requires power.
BASIC
FUCKING
PHYSICS
>>51234779
>280X closing in on 780 Ti
Holy shit either something is wrong here or Tahiti truly is GOAT.
>>51235425
Both - tahiti is GOAT but nobody (across multiple sites) can pin down what the fuck is going on with the game.
I personally suspect nvidia gimping kepler but thats my theory.
>>51235425
My 3 years ride with Tahiti has been quite pleasant, to be honest.
>>51230905
I feel like I dodged a bullet.
I had a 780 for around a year there and then my buddy wanted to trade it for his 290. Oddly enough this was specifically for Witcher 3, a game that my 290 now handily beats the 780 in.
