The power of a current-gen smartphone at half the price and 4gigs of ram.
Zenphone master race.
>gaudy chinese consumer trash at half the price of other chinese consumer trash
BOY THAT'S A BARGAIN
fuck off to /v/
>>51226820
Please enlighten us and tell us what we should buy
Fagtron
>>51226835
>we should buy
Nice to see you completely missed the point you dumbass
>>51226820
sounds like communism
>>51226806
update to Kitkat when
>>51226835
My sister's zenphone's camera stopped working yesterday. of it's own accord, no warning or anything. tried restarting, resetting and everything except factory resetting it.
the phone was only 3 months old.
fuck chinese goods.
i'd rather buy korean.
>inb4 my LG G4 is flawless. i wish i had waited for V10 though. that sturdy look makes my dick diamonds.
>>51226806
on paper - great fucking phone
real life use - piece of shit like everything chinese
>>51226806
But Lenovo K3 Note and Xiaomi Redmi Note 2 are both better for less.
>>51226882
i agree for Lenovo K3 note.
Xiaomi is not as good of a real-life performer as the Lenovo one.
>>51226835
>what we should buy
Any $30 nokia phones.
Or better: no phones at all.
I have the dual sim 4gb ram one.
company paid for it.
It's great after rooting and debloating.
>>51226806
>Zenfone 2
>doesn't play 1080p in 60fps
2 gb 3rd gen Moto g reporting
>>51226806
g2 brand new for 115 bucks master race.
>>51227587
a mighty contender of the value-for-money crown.
you did good.
>>51227719
I've had it for about a week now. LOVE IT. came from a dual core lg p769.
It even beats a snapdragon note 4, not bad intel not bad at all.
I'm really happy x86 chips are actually competing against ARM chips now.
Does anyone how easy it is to install windows 7 on the zenfone 2 or is it currently impossible?
>>51227587
I have a Galaxy S2 for 4.5 years now, waiting for the 2gb Moto G to launch here, but they still only have the 1gb version
>>51228458
>It even beats a snapdragon note 4, not bad intel not bad at all.
>posts note3 instead
>>51228458
THISSSSS. It's an x86 cpu phone right?
>>51228508
lol whoops, sorry anon. I'll go commit sudoku right now.
>>51228531
>I'll go commit sudoku right now.
I'm here if you need help anon-senpai
>>51228458
I think the bootloader is locked. Shame 4 gigs is plenty for windows 7
>>51226894
Do you get superfish pre-installed?
>>51228593
lol
>>51228458
>Does anyone how easy it is to install windows 7
>Does anyone how easy it is
Go get some coffee vomit chan, you seem half awake.
>>51228458
>>51228517
>>51228568
Holy shit, that phone has an x86 cpu inside? That's insane, I though x86 chips required too much power to work on a phone.
>>51228593
>Lenovo
>definitely botnet
well, which phone isn't a botnet in this day and age?
i was merely talking about head-to-head real-life performance.
>>51228517
It turns out you can, though it involves running windows 7 inside a virtual machine. It can be done though
>>51228458
>Does anyone how easy it is to install windows 7 on the zenfone 2 or is it currently impossible?
Ahahahaa
>>51228729
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/67670/20150710/this-asus-zenfone-2-runs-windows-7-and-were-not-kidding-video.htm
I just found the same info.
>>51228728
Well I was joking, but now that I've got your attention. How is Lenovo's rom in comparison to stock android?
>>51228755
Holy fucking shit.
>>51228758
the UI is something that you'll have to learn to ignore imo.
I don't even like the stock one desu, but there's no other good OS out there.
I really don't want anyone to buy cheap ass phones, but here, i to say it's great (considering the price point).
If you can't shell out more shekels, you won't feel jewed out with this phone (at least for the first few months.)
>>51226806
>can't even get 5.1
>has more bloat than a Sameshit device
>shitty battery
>shitty brightness levels
Truly a memephone
>>51228755
That's fucking insane.
>>51226806
Only $300 for the 4GB model?!
How is it so cheap?
>>51228939
Shill detected.
>>51228963
I'm just curious. Is the camera shit or does the phone breakdown after a few months of use? $300 is insanely cheap for a phone with 4gb of ram.
>>51228939
chinese and intel cant sell the chip so they are literally paying Lenovo to take them.
The CPU is being sold at a loss (for intel)
>>51228994
Dammm, are they desperate to get into the phone market or just desperate to get rid of their shitty atom chips?
>>51229022
Who else is going to buy them? Pretty sure the Zenphone is one of the largest, if not the largest use of these atom chips currently.
Intel either puts them in this phone or they dont sell them.
>>51228939
They don't pay 500 million for advertising. The ram probably doesn't even cost them $25.
>>51229035
Whoah, that's very interesting. Do you think x86 chips will become popular in phones now? If intel keeps the prices this low then qualcomm and samsung are going to be in some deep shit.
>>51229065
>They don't pay 500 million for advertising. The ram probably doesn't even cost them $25.
Then why the fuck don't all android phones come with 4GB of ram minimum? Why they gotta fuck with us and just slap 2-3GBs? Are they fucking trolling us?
>>51229081
I think if intel can keep making strides in the low power space (such as phones and tablets). Then yes, we COULD see a rise in x86 in that space. However, I think this is dependant on x86 android support and W10 mobile.
But yes, if intel keeps improving their low power CPUs, we could see interesting things.
>>51228939
Not shill but the 2gb ram version is only $200.
>>51229117
So you buy the phones that come with 4gb, later.
>>51229081
>If intel keeps the prices this low then qualcomm and samsung are going to be in some deep shit.
The fuck you mean "are going to be"? They are in deep shit, zenfones are selling like hotcakes as people realize they can get all the fancy shmancy features like a 13mp camera and a 1080p screen for under 300 dollars.
>>51229130
Intel already created pic related. It's a 14nm $35 atom chip rumoured to be 25% faster than the 22nm atom Z3580 inside the zenfone 2 while consuming the same amount of power.
We could see this chip in phones pretty fucking soon. intel wants a slice of that cpu mobile market and they seem very very hungry for it.
>>51229319
But how's the Gpu? Intel hd 3000? Kek.
>>51229319
The iGPU seems very decent for a phone cpu too. 16 execution units up to 600 MHz. Not sure how this compares to any adreno gpu though.
>>51229319
I think the revision of that chip will end up being more likely to be put into devices.
But we shall see anon-senpai
also, ruri is still superior
>>51229358
Probably around that amount of graphical performance. But you are getting intel hd 3000 graphics performance on a phone cpu, which is still impressive imho
>>51229319
>>51229362
This chip better fucking be on the zenfone 3
>>51229135
What's the catch? Holy shit, now I wanna buy one.
Is it going to brick after a few months or something? I was planning to buy an s4 but the zenfone has all the features I want too. Fuck, wat do?
>>51229403
Seeing how the adreno 430 can achieve results comparable with last-gen consoles (Ps3, Xbox360), I wouldn't be really impressed with intel hd grade performance.
>>51229526
>wat do?
LG G4.
>>51229541
It costs more than $300 though
>>51229526
>What's the catch?
There aren't any huge problems. I paid the difference for the 4gb since it has a faster CPU + fast charging
Just little things that will shit you, like the crap plastic seams that collect dust and the fucktarded button placement. Non backlit, capacitive controls, fucking really? Oh and ZenUI is vile but removable.
>>51229530
True but you have to pay a pretty penny to get a phone with an adreno 430.
This doesn't mean intel won't design more power atom chips though. Now that they are working with 14nm lithography they could easily design an iGPU with 32 execution units and clock them up to 800 MHz on an atom chip maybe. Remember every execution unit has the power of around [8] 28nm amd gpu shaders.
>>51229530
>Seeing how the adreno 430 can achieve results comparable with last-gen consoles (Ps3, Xbox360
Are they really that powerful or are you full of shit?
>>51229475
the chip has been out since may, i hope they use its successor.
>>51229660
It is true. But seeing how the ps3 and xbox 360 have 10 year old hardware, that shouldn't be surprising.
>>51229660
They really are, the adreno 430 packs a whopping 192 pipelines that can turbo to 650 Mhz. Too bad they are built on 20nm lithography, 14nm would have been better.
Anyway the xbox 360 had a pretty weak gpu, like 200 shaders at 500 MHz so yeah the adreno 430 would have about the same graphical performance.
Post pictures taken by Zenfone 2. I heard the camera is so horrible
>>51229663
>the chip has been out since may, i hope they use its successor.
Stop encouraging x86 chips. Do you want ARM chips to die that much you heartless monster? ARM chips are good, they prevent monopolies like jewtel from controlling fucking everything.
>>51229903
if jewtel is encouraged to create better lower power x86 chips because of ARM, that is good for innovation, if ARM wants to stay relevant they should make sure to keep improving their own designs.
>>51226806
i owned this phone and it was okay. lollipop was cool, but
>DEM VOLUME KEYS
>SHIT TIER BATTERY LIFE
>THAT POWER BUTTON
seriously, fuck that power button. Just bought a refurbished S5 active and it is better in every metric.
>>51229929
Yea, I have to agree as well, anyone used to a flagship experience (S5/S6/G2/G3/G4/M7/M8/etc) will notice the subpar build quality and the lackluster feel of the buttons.
It does feel pretty cheap, but for that price it should honestly not be a big surprise either.
Still a decent phone, but dont expect to be a flagship slayer in every metric.
>>51229929
>>51229959
The zenfone 2 should have sported a 4,000 mAh battery, of course a 22nm atom chip is going to drain the phone faster than any ARM cpu.
Still if you can root it you can lower the frequencies to save battery life.
>>51229994
it's not the CPU so much as the screen. They should have done a 720p instead of a 1080p IPS. Also they should have cut the screen size down to 5".
>>51230049
Eh, I am fine with 1080p, the tech has advanced to the point where the benefits of going to 720p just aren't worth it in my opinion, 1080p tech is already power efficient as fuck these days.
>>51230049
hmmm that does make sense. Still kinda shady how intel doesn't reveal the tdp of the atom chip. It could be a 6 watt tdp chip for all we know.
>>51230049
Meh, I don't mind the battery drain if it means I get a 1080p screen. Reading books on that screen must be amazing.
>intel mobile SoC
>ugly as fuck
>bulkier than it has to be
>retarded button placement
>bloatware bloatware bloatware
>bad screen
>meh camera
It's kinda shit. Not terrible for the price but there's a lot better out there already now. Still isn't better than the OnePlus One even.
>>51230144
Also, the most important
>shit shit shit battery life
>>51230155
Oh shut up, it's not like you can't root the fucking thing and lock the max frequency to 800 Mhz
>>51226806
I was planning to buy 2 of these for myself and my wife in the next week.
should i get the zenfone 2 with 4gb of ram and a 1.7ghz quad core intel atom, or the zenfone laser with 3gb ram and a snapdragon 615?
It beats the shit out of the moto g that's for sure.
>>51230320
Get the zenfone 2 with just 2gb of ram, 4gb is an overkill for android unless you plan to heavily multitask on them.
The intel atom chip can eat the battery quickly so I recommend you root the phones and lock the max frequency to 800 Mhz.
>>51228805
Yea I feel for the meme ;_;
Battery life is fucking horrendous, I'm lucky to get 4hr of SoT on a charge. I don't think asus is going to upgrade to 5.1 or 6.0 either though people are saying they will. I only bought this phone because my lg g2 screen started to go haywire (google lg g2 phantom touch)
If I wasn't in a bind I would have gotten a g4 but oh well.
>>51230177
It's not the cpu though it's the screen. Asus went with some shit manufacturer I guess and the screen eats battery like no tomorrow.
I own a zenfone 2
>>51230824
Have you tried lowering the max cpu frequency? Most users report 1-2 more hours of battery if they lower the max frequency.
>>51230879
And did you try lowering the max cpu frequency? Did it have any affect at all?
>>51230892
I have it stock because I really didn't feel like dealing with 3rd party roms made by 3rd worlders but I will root it now and lower the cpu freq.
someone in this thread said 800mhz, is that too low?
>>51230912
nah, I keep mine under pic related. Everything runs decently for me and my phone lasts more than a day of heavy use.
>>51230973
some questions
are you using the 4gb version?
Can you post SoT (settings -> battery -> screen)?
What 3rd party rom are you using?
I'm assuming the app is called no frills cpu control
>>51226806
I can't imagine how tech illiterate you have to be to think this is a good deal
>>51231008
>are you using the 4gb version?
Oh sorry I'm using an lg volt actually, sorry - forgot to mention that. Only 1gb of ram on my phone.
>Can you post SoT (settings -> battery -> screen)?
sure
>What 3rd party rom are you using?
none, using stock kit kat rom
>I'm assuming the app is called no frills cpu control
yea
>>51230912
800 Mhz is completely fine if all you do is browse the web. Higher frequencies are better if you want to play vydia or do cpu intensive work like file compression.
Also the I/O sched. plays a big role in how much more power you save. CFQ is great for multi tasking but drains the batterry the most. ROW saves more battery life but multi tasking performance is noticeably worse.
I was gonna get it, but I got a z2 for 249.99
>>51226806
If only it didn't have a shitty screen.
>>51230398
how much does that impact performance?
>>51232687
I can browse 4chins just fine at 600 Mhz on my lg volt. 800 Mhz should be good for almost any non cpu intensive task like reading, listening to music or browsing the web.
However if you plan to do very cpu intensive tasks like compress files then you can temporarily unlock the max frequency to 2.2 Ghz.
>>51230879
Nah, even shitty screens don't eat that much battery. The largest power draw comes from the lte reception and cpu usage. intel atoms simply use more juice than ARM chips so if you don't lock the max frequency they will waste energy. Just keeping that 2.2ghz stock speed wastes energy by itself.
