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https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2015/10/final-leaked-tpp-text-all-we-feared

Look at this. Look at what YOU, the chosen people, have allowed to happen. Indeed, from the smouldering ashes of SOPA & PIPA has arisen a new Daemon, one so strong and so overbearing that not even the proud forces of GNU/EFF cannot injure it.

Have you not any shame? Your reliance on proprietary software and the money you freely let corporations take from you have led to this. Has the Way of GNU not taught you anything about self-sufficiency? Truly, you have strayed from the Path.

Reflect on your actions and await your impending doom. We tried to warn you, but your self-absorbed minds simply could not comprehend the wisdom in Our words.
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>>50756963
I am on my iPhone 6s Rose Gold right now, and the link doesn't open. What's the quick summary here?
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>YOU
Actually it was all the world's governments getting together in secret. But sure, blame the populous since it's easier.
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/g/ - /pol/ and linux
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>>50756989
If TPP passes:
1. World economy is fucked
2. The Internet as we know it is fucked

Can you seriously not open the link? iCucks confirmed plebs,
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>>50756963
Take your semen-soaked sob story over to Facebook and Plebbit.
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>>50757036
You are blind to the dangers of this.
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>>50757344
What dangers?
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>>50757036
You're a fucking idiot.
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>>50757350
Did you even read the article? It outlines them clearly and succinctly. I'm not going to spoonfeed you.
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>>50757371
>GUYS THIS IS REALLY BAD
>why
>NOT TELLING :^)
Cool enjoy your own thread
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>>50757018
Your fault for electing the politicians that allowed this to happen.
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>>50757438
Hey man, it's not my fault that your reading comprehension is shit.
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>>50756963
>Daemon
How do you guys pronounce this word? I know it's meant to be demon, but I always say day-mon.
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>>50757036
goddamn, why are all frogposters complete retards?
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>>50757480
Posting facebookfrog makes your IQ drop by 2% each time.
After posting many, people are reduced to drooling sponges.
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>>50757438
READ THE FUCKNG ARTICLE, RETARD.
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>>50757442

No matter who you vote for, the government always gets in. It requires everyone actually understanding for themselves and then there would have to be some sort of uprising. Of course this relies of people not being ignorant and actually taking charge of their own lives so yeah, it's too late. See you on the other side.
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>>50757465
It's a actually dæmon, so saying it like demon is somewhat correct-ish
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>>50757371
I read the article and I fail to see how TPP changes anything.
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>>50757505
Well this is a corporate agreement. Basically what happens is corporations come together to agree on what laws they'd like, then they hand a big sheet of laws to governments and say "If you don't sign this our businesses will die and thousands and millions of jobs will be lost and the economy will be ruin and blood will rain from the sky and we'll pull our campaign financing and we'll tell everyone you're a pedo"
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This doesn't even talk about the gebric medicine stuff...
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>>50756963
>tfw free software lost

I just want to kill myself tbh.
I seriously thought there was a chance, but the corporations hijacked freedom and turned it into "open core."

may St. iGNUcious have mercy on our souls.
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>>50757534

Pretty much, that's lobbying for you. It runs deep, and there's people high up in corporations who are also in government anyway.
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>>50757531
If you're not trolling, then you're a complete retard.
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>>50757536
If TPP passes, the Canadian medical system is gonna get REKT
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>>50757564
>and there's people high up in corporations who are also in government anyway.
That's putting it a bit simply. They aren't corporation and government at the same time.
Those in government get really cushy jobs (Which is essentially a 'turn up once a month for $200k a year) for them lined up after their term ends and those in corporation are hired for their 'expertise' in the industry in regulatory bodies, and corporate funded politicians get elected. Money circlejerk.
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>>50756963
>implying stallman isn't a jew too
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>>50757621
but he's a self hating jew, which means he's ok.
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>>50757631
so he's a cuck
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>>50757036
christ on a bike you're stupid
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>>50757621
stallman cares about freedom.
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>>50757621
>Religion is the same as ideology
/pol/ is retarded.
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>>50757648
not him but god is a dream of good government
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>>50757621
He's an atheist. Not the fedora tipping kind, either.
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>>50757680
a good government is one that doesn't need to exist, everyone would just police themselves from doing anything that has a negative effect on others.
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>>50756963
So what the fuck do we do to stop this, /g/? Sit and bitch about it on mongolian cartoon forums?
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Freetard argument:
>TPP is bad because this article says so.
Can you shed some more light on the matter, Anon?
>HURR DURR READ THE ARTICLE
But I already did that, Anon
>YOU ARE EITHER A TROLL OR A RETARD. FUCK OFF!!!11
Sasuga.
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>>50756963
Remember to vote for trump or Bernie or Hillary or jeb. There's literally no difference when it comes to lobbying
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>>50756989
This is bait
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>>50757737
do you seriously lack the intelligence to understand why TPP is a bad thing on your own?
Just start frogposting at this point, you seem like the kind of person who would.
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>>50757737
>babby so desperate for a spoonfeeding he's gonna shitpost the thread

Somewhere in the article there's a provision for criminalizing cropping watermarks from images used under fair-use even with proper crediting. Lets see if you can find where.
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I signed the white house petition on the EFF.
Now what?
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>>50757796
Now get an SKS.
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>>50757771
If you can't articulate your ideas they are useless.

>>50757783
See, that's precisely the pointless shit I am talking about. This has absolutely 0 impact on normal people, let alone the people on 4chan/g/.
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>>50757807
>See, that's precisely the pointless shit I am talking about. This has absolutely 0 impact on normal people, let alone the people on 4chan/g

Retard confirmed. Move along everyone.
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>>50757783
Good luck enforcing this shit.
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>>50757820
They've thought of that. The TPP makes the government liable to enforce it.
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>>50757820
Oh they'll waste everyone's time and resources doing so. It's most likely to be used to attack dissidents. Not even political ones but people against certain corporations or products.
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>>50757853
So now the government has a good reason to spy even more into peoples lives. Wonderful.
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>>50757807
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>>50756963
Hey look, it's literally nothing.
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>>50757912
Hey NSA mouthbreather.
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>>50756963
>mfw nothing is changing for the US
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>>50757719
Talk to your country's equivalent of local federal government representative to see where they stand on TPP. Organize/participate in a peaceful protest. Spread word about the issues at hand.
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>>50757942
>nothing is changing
YOU FAGG-
>for the US
Oh, right.
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>>50757976
>LAND OF THE FREE
>HOME OF THE GAY
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>>50757621
Stallman's an atheist.
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>unironically living in a green country
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>>50758001
I guess I'm moving to russia in a few years, always wanted to live there anyways.
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Soon entire industries will exist just to suck states of money, and they won't even need to do it through contracts.
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>>50758001
>what is TTIP
Bad news m8.
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>>50758021
Soon? What do you think the lobby industry is for? They literally lobby the government for money from the government using money from the government.
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>>50758030
Get lost angela.
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>>50758029
>unironically living in yurop
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>>50758030
Kek
Miracles and paranormal events are called coincidences
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>literally outlaws free OR opensource software
HOLY
FUCKING
SHIIIIiiIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>50758058
sauce
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>>50758058
Cyberpunk dystopia NOW
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>Ban on Circumventing Digital Rights Management (DRM)
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>>50758058
TIME TO GO INAWOODS!!
NOOOOOOWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>50758095
Woah, you witnessed PHYSICS!
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>>50758072
See the OP you fucking tard.
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>>50758095
Lucky coincidence. Touches with death bring out the animal in man.
You're not stupid or anything for believing in nonsense, it's only human to try and look for significance in rare events.
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>>50758058
not yet, we have to start making hardware that is fully free and DRM free right from the start.
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>>50758165
OK guys, who let the retard out of his cage again?
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>>50758165
What happened is that you got lucky. The difference between getting hit and not getting hit is nothing to anyone but you.
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>>50758191
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57Ul0qSQgeA
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>it used to be that mother earth told humans to fuck off and go extinct
>now we just do her job for her
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>>50758215
Remove yourself first. We need less insane people. I'd take rude people over reality-independant psychopaths.
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i dont fucking care because i live in the real world. the chances of anything actually changing are slim

fuck off children and go back to reddit where everyone will jerk each other off to MUH TPP MUH SOPA
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>>50758259
>the chances of anything actually changing are slim
Your food and drug prices are about to go up, but you probably don't care cause you live in the real world.
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>>50758259
>because i live in the real world.
If you did, you would care. This affects the very way we as citizens of North American countries live out our lives.
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>>50758272
They're not.

The patent rights are only for 8 years, which is fucking nothing.
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THREAD MUSIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPjP0jbxBXw
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>>50758292
nah, you can try to post stupid shit and youtube videos all day long, but when it comes down to it nothing will change
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>>50758325
Keep telling yourself that when the SWAT team kicks down your door for downloading a movie or music album.
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>>50758259
Right like how the trade agreements in the 90s didn't change anything.
Well since you're ignorant; these trade agreements moved factories to china. That didn't change anything at all!

>>50758268
What happened to you happens to hundreds of people a year. What you did is win the lottery. Does no-one win the lottery? Someone does.
Doesn't mean you're going to go jumping out in traffic.
Oh, miracles only happen once?
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>>50758360
Well maybe I just don't pirate shit anymore? Boo fucking hoo you dumb child. The odds of any of that shit actually being used and enforced is slim.

Fuck off
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>>50758325
Things will change for other countries but not for the US.

The US already has all of those provisions as law. And the pact requires each country to pass their own criminal penalties so it will probably never happen.
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>>50758369
Piracy isn't the point, anon. Maybe if you read the leaked document, you might know a bit more about what they are planning to do.
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>>50758411
"It will probably never happen" - German Jewry 1940
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Okay, I read the article but I just don't get it. It's too complicated. Can someone simplify/summarize?
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>>50758320

Actual thread music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOtymdrUfHk
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>>50758436
It never happened tho
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>tfw this is bad news for animes
>tfw this is REAL BAD NEWS for my r18 doujins
>tfw this is EXTREMELY BAD NEWS for my loli doujins

I want to die
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>>50758296
70 years now, actually, or 95 years if it's published on the 25th year.
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>>50758369
Yes, I'm sure your nation will choose war instead of jailing you. Totally bro.
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>>50758503
That's copyright. A patent is a different thing.
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>>50758369

Clearly went way over your head. It can be enforced, and will be if needed. Yes they don't currently have the resources to bust down your door for one illegal download, however all this information gathering means all that needs to happen is in the future you merely come under suspicion of something. They can then go back though everything you've ever said, see who you've communicated with, see all your ISP information, see exactly where you've been and when and with who and then simply paint you however they wish. They own you.
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>>50758529
Dude, you are not special. Get off your high horse. Things with little probability happen all the time.
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>>50758529
People hate you because you think you're some kind of god given miracle person because you had a couple of lucky breaks.
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>>50757680
>not him but god is a dream of good government
Um, what? Hopefully you aren't talking about the Christian god.
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>>50758604
I'm just concerned that you've lost touch with reality.
Assuming everyone is mad at you is your mental illness at this point- I've figured it out.
People don't actually hate you automatically, you just look at them and assume they are.
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>>50758632
>an angel

>I'm crazy because people assume I actually believe retarded fucking things.


You're a nutter. Seek mental help
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>>50757036
That's a rare pepe. Mind if I save?
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>>50758795
I need a book to understand you
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>>50758632
>>50758795
>>50758831
>>50758879
>>50758949
>>50758985

What the fuck is going on here? Are you high on euphoria, guys?
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>>50759024
>he doesn't know about angela
LMAO
But don't bother reporting, it does nothing.
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>>50758001
Shit, so the only perk of living in my third-world shithole (the government not giving a fuck about the internet) will now cease to exist? Shoot me
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hows the tpp gonna clash with europes interests?
germany abolished software patents alltogether for example. making copies of software you own is fine too. even most rightsholders dont go after pirates but the distributers and no one even cares if you pirate unless you seed unreasonable ammounts of data.
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>>50759105
See: TPIP, just 4u.
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>>50758130
>see the article
>nothing in the article about open source software
Wow, sure had me convinced.
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>>50759292
>literally too dumb to read
Wow!
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>>50759312
>g-guys, I-I swear it's happening, I-I'm not lying this time
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>>50759361

Hi NSA
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>>50757806
not him but i have an S/k/S but i didnt sign
now what?
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>>50759279
>Not releasing it under GPL
Cancer.
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>>50759361
>>50759312 is wrong. It's not about reading, it's about thinking.
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>>50759531
Maymay cul paw.
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>>50759531
Only thing in the article I can see remotely being abused that way is the shit related to DRM, but that would require manufacturers to start slapping a ton of DRM on every new device made so you wouldn't be able to install your own software, which is something manufacturers could already do to piss people off today, yet it isn't done (or at least not widespread enough to be an actual threat).
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This would in effect kill 4chan right?
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>>50758846
Better not if TPP is gonna pass :/
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>>50757465
day-min
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>>50757531
SIMPLE EXPLANATION OF TPP ACCORDING TO THE ARTICLE. I HAVE NOT THE TREATY ITSELF BECAUSE I'M NOT A LAWYER. I'M A CONCERNED SHITPOSTER AND AMATEUR PROGRAMMER.

>Rightsholders gain more rights, soft rights for users
Rightsholding agencies acquire and hold rights to works. They make profit off of this, despite not doing shit. If you've heard of the parasite class, this is them. Almost all of the rules that protect rightsholding agencies are "binding", in other words, you are legally required to bend to them. The rights for users are "soft", they're empty promises made to sate you.

>More copyright terms
It's going to take longer (I think, but I'm not really sure. The article is somewhat ambiguous to me on this) for a work to enter public domain. This is the least scary part actually.

>You may not circumvent DRM
So the usual way the creators of proprietary software protect their works is DRM. They rely on it to keep you from illegally copying their works. This clause might reduce DRM, because now you can be charged simply for messing with the DRM component of a piece of software. In other words, if you remove DRM from a game to make it run better, you can be charged with a crime, have your computer seized, and actually get jail time for this. You also can't remove rights management information. The weird thing about this is that it kind of assumes we're still in the software as a product means of design. Many large companies have switched to software as service because of the cloud.

>They can seize your computer if you use it for anything bad-wrong
Exactly what it sounds like. Not only are you liable, so is your PC apparently.

>No protection for whistleblowers
Trade secrets are secret now. If you gain access to them, and release them as a journalist or a whistleblower, you're a criminal now.

>Your contact info for country code top level domains must be visible, and your domain name holder can enforce that.

>ISPs are required to comply with DMCA notices.
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>>50757465
Di-mən
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>>50759977
Huh?
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>>50759398
INNA

W
O
O
D
S
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>>50758134
>>50758134
I was legally dead for 12 minutes.
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>>50760662
>inb4 i violate copy right laws for going inna woods
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>>50760696
Well, that explains a lot. Brain hypoxia causes brain cells to die.
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link to tl;dr for dummies?

what's next I2P?
goverments doesn't care for downloaded korean animated drawings or tv series, right?
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>mfw I just got a seedbox to get past university torrent block
>mfw this bill doesn't concern me at all and only poorfags
Long live TPP
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>>50760766
Also, I've been abducted by aliens. They told me Harry Truman invented them. It's why I've been so fascinated by him
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>>50757371
>>50757438
>implying americans are literate
good kek there
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Soon Canadians and Australians will get a chance to experience America's "healthcare system" too!

Prescription drugs will skyrocket to 5000% normal price and generic drugs will become illegal for a decade or longer so drug companies can get as much profit as possible. It's a glorious day to be a scumbag billionaire piece of human filth.
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CYBERPUNK IS NOW
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>>50756963
God help us all....
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>>50757442
>Elected officials are beholdent to the general public
Don't you have teeth to put under your pillow for a fairy to collect?
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>>50759647
If they were at all serious about enforcing then it very well could. It could in fact be used to justify removing any website that allows users to upload content. It obviously wont be used to target youtube though because that would affect far too many people and draw a lot of negative attention to these stupid laws. It will just be used to go after smaller video sharing sites and youtube will continue to use their content ID shit to take down videos people report.
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>>50760803
>he does transactions with his credit card in his name
>he chooses a vps provider in America/Aus/EU countries with logs and retention laws
You're not even trying
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>>50761054
CAN YOU FUCK OFF YOU SHILL

STOP REPLYING AND STOP REPLYING TO YOURSELF

/g/ seriously how dense are this is the most obvious derail attempt ever
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>>50761308
woops wrong post •~•
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>>50761192
No youtube will get worse. Just about every pro nazi video is banned in germany and several other videos. Take downs are still happening by the content providers and you see that today. It will only get worse from here on out.
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>>50761455
That is the content ID system, google/youtube "voluntarily" set that up to please copyright holders. TPP wont affect that system google might change the filters but copyright holders wont ever have youtube completely removed from the internet because there will be a fuckload of backlash.
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We need more protests like this

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-10/u-s-europe-trade-accord-draws-250-000-protesters-in-berlin
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Itt: the psych ward
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>>50761805
just report them they like to shit up random threads apparently
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>>50761805
ye shocking how shills come out whenever tpp comes up
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>>50761873
Kek
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>>50761890
Well there's a guy that thinks his an angel in here
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All of this cringeworthy manchild whining, I can attest to the fact that the majority of people complaining like little mouthbreathing babies do so on the basis of preserving their ability to steal and copy software, effectively hurting the software industry which relies on profits to continue pushing out good software in a timely manner. This is akin to legalizing theft.

If you're worried about other implications regarding Intellectual Property, in the case of memes or image macros, why the fuck don't you make your own content instead of stealing from others? Because stealing is easier than creating, I suppose.

You're just as retarded as the ad blocking crowd who steals content which was only possible by the introduction of the ads business model on the Internet, it's like going on a bus ride without paying for your ticket, or having dinner in a restaurant without paying, while thinking that it is perfectly acceptable.

Since you're all going on an anti ad crusade, there's got to be new ways of monetizing the Internet so that it benefits everyone, and the TPP was created for that sole reason, lack of regulations of IP and the internet tends to hurt businesses greatly when there are no checks on the population, look at India and pretty much the rest of the third world, they all use pirated software.

One thing is certain, IP must be treated fairly on the Internet, just like we do in real life, and rule of law will see to this, whether you agree to it or not, as this benefits current and future businesses which will thrive on the Internet.
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>>50761930
>IP must be treated fairly on the Internet

"Fair" treatment would be limiting it to twenty or thirty years, max.
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Why so scared anons, you know there will always be a way around whatever the scumfucks in congress enact
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>>50761930
You're willfully ignoring the horrible impact TPP threatens to have on creative industries. Case and point: piezoelectric technology. First developed in the US but only really took off in Japan because firms were willing to share information about it. In the US, companies jealously guarded 'trade secrets' and got nowhere. Now picture that, but about everything.

tl;dr you're the kind of person ruining America and now the world
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>>50761964
You're not
Source: im really an angel
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>>50761930
>fair treatment
>literally no, 0, nothing of benefit to the user
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>>50762062
>prove it
Something very terrible will happen to you tommorow unless you rub peanut butter on your nipples
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>>50761930
>IP must be treated fairly on the Internet
It's already being treated fairly. IP can be copied to infinity-1 so the value of it should be basically worthless if we're to believe in supply and demand. IP is worthless, material goods made from IP has value.
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>>50762156
Yes I was only joking
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>>50756989
I hope you got the 128gb model, goy
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>>50762134
How did this thing escape the mental hospital?
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>>50762228
Just stop replying. You're encouraging it.
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>>50762271
Religious believers are puppets of words written by madmen.
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>>50762271
If it wants to be treated like a person, it should act like one.
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>>50762271
Topkek suck deez nuts tbqh Fam :^)
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>>50757021
Gas the macfags, OS war now!
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>>50762290
Lmao Come fight me big boy
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>>50762134

lol, angel is just a brooding faggot who can't even keep with zoey deschanel
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>>50761930
Spotted the corporate shill.
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What is this angela meme?
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The TPP is basically the same as copyright law that existed in the US since the 90s. It's main purpose is to put those same laws in place in eastern countries like Vietnam.
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>>50762351
Report this everyone possible school shooting imminent
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>>50762338
A crazy person, likely legally insane. They will reply to their self pretending to be another person and talk or argue back and forth about inane bullshit. Report them on sight.
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>>50762351
>Your place isn't to decide what 'acting like a person' means

Actually it is. After all, I'm the one who is one.
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>>50762373
Good luck enforcing them in those borderline anarchist chinkholes.
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>>50762373
For the most part yes but it also applies those laws to countries like Canada, Australia, Japan, and New Zealand and it also changes the patent laws. If you need cheap generic drugs and you live in one of those countries you should be worried because America's pharmaceutical companies are going to fuck your laws up.
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>>50762446
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>>50762389
It's barely enforced in America. If you really want to download something without paying, you probably can.
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>>50762460
memefish isnt trending right nao tbh fam
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>>50762483
Bait
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>>50761930

As far as ads - then put up pay walls. It's a crazy concept when you go out and pick up a physical newspaper. You actually have to pay for it. No shit?

I block all ads except for those sites I feel deserve the ad revenue and I choose to support (4chan and a few others).

Most original, quality content is already behind paywalls to some extent for that very reason. The rest is a copy of a copy of a copy that has been regurgitated for ad revenue. We all know it and treat it as such. Too bad, so sad. Go find a real career that actually contributes something to society if that's how you feed your family, loser.
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>>50762495
Sounds kinky
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>>50762369
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>>50762501
Goon detected.
>>>/somethingcancerous/
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>>50762540
Oh Fuck yeah, insult me more, im rock hard
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>>50759914
>>ISPs are required to comply with DMCA notices.
what
how, why and for which countries

can I still download my anime
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>>50762459
Nothing changes for drugs that are already generic. The only thing that changes is that new drugs have a greater time before they become generic in some countries, but in America, it actually shortens the current 12 year period.

So americans can get cheaper medication faster.
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>>50762588
Every country except canada (notice and notice system allowed) and chile (court ordered required).
>how
If someone sends a troll notice to your ISP, they are legally required to pretend it's entirely legit and to act upon it by killing your access and forwarding what they have on you to the proper authorities.
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>>50762636
Mmmmmm keep going im almost there
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Is this the one proposed legislation that contains within it a clause that would prevent future politicians from removing it for X years?

Isn't that completely illegal?
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>>50762746
Nothing is illegal if you make a law for or against it.
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>>50758058
I'm really against TPP and this would be a major point to viral this shit on the internet and gain followers, you'd better give me source on that one, please.
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>>50762804
With "they gonna seize you new iphone!11!!!" shit it could already become viral
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>>50762804
All that was needed to prevent this all from happening is for google to replace their front page with a video about how bad TPP is, for a single day.

They can afford it. They're google. Every single internet and paper publication, every single news channel, and every forum would be talking about it. It would be completely unavoidable. If you talk about anything like this enough even normals would care.

Google could have saved the world.
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>>50757442
> mfw I don't vote
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>>50757465
dämon obviously
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>>50762973
I didn't either. The final remaining candidates are always pieces of shit and almost equally bad. All the good ones get weeded out along the way because corporations and media do their best to silence them. They are given lowest possible priority in debates, very little screentime, and slandered openly by "journalists".

Then when it comes time for a critical vote, it's always in some shitty backwards ass state like Iowa where no one who matters gets to vote.
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>>50762949
Why would the corporation pushing TPP forward display a video representing anti-TPP sentiments?
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>>50762949
google wants this retard
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>>50759914
>Your contact info for country code top level domains must be visible, and your domain name holder can enforce that.
This has been like that for German domains for quite some time now, and not a single registrar nor DENIC actually care enough to enforce it, so this is pretty much a non-issue.
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>>50763023
Google loves playing the good guy. Also
>Google is one person
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>>50763023
>>50763028
You stupid fucks do realize google wants to be an ISP, and the TPP effectively destroys ISPs profit by making them liable for shit?
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>>50758001
BASED EUROPE
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>>50762949
We also can stop this by spreading >>50762914
To dumb applefags, we already did it with the ios update that made iphones waterproof, with the difference that this time is a real thing
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>>50763065
Nice try, shill.
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>>50763065

Youre a cuck
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>>50763086
Nice comeback, retard.
Next time use your fucking brain.

Google don't want this shit to pass, so the question is why are they letting it.
Well, since they fucked over SOPA i bet the US Government (the ones pushing this shit) weren't happy with them. So google are probably tied up and can't do shit.
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>>50763066
Europe is getting their own version of it. It will have European things that throw you in jail like talking bad about the government and saying anything bad about the refugees. Oh wait we already have that.
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>>50763065
Google doesn't want to be an ISP. Google has openly said WE DO NOT WANT TO BE AN ISP.

They only became an ISP to push other ISPs from being complete shit. So far it hasn't worked.
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>>50763066
save a life
bin that knife
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>>50763066
>TPIP
DUMB EUROPOSTER
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What does Stallman think of this? Has he commented about this before?
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>>50763113
>>50763121
Europe is not England lmao
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>>50763069
Just do it short and simple and super normie friendly.
Example, a couple takes a selfie in front of a cinema, the picture includes copyrigted movie posters and even maybe a copyrighted movie trailer displayed in a LCD screen, that under the current TPP could get their phone seized?
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>>50763111
Keep shilling, I'm sure someone will fall for it shlomo.
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>>50763130
Remember that German man who said something bad about the refugee crisis on facebook and was jailed for it?
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>>50763149
no, link?
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Would the modern day populace of big first world countries even be capable of revolting if shit gets too out of hand?

65 years ago people would have been flipping their shit at this kind of stuff
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>>50763160
It was on a german website I don't know german. An anon on /pol/ posted it.
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>>50763210
Interesting, because I'm German and haven't heard about this.
Maybe the anon from /pol/ got it from one of the more /pol/-centered websites that like to... enhance their news a bit?
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>>50763164
They can, but they are stopping that from happening by mixing other countries in ones that will start it. See the refugee crisis in Europe for example.
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>>50763210
Looks guys, instead of doing some research and confirming/denying his claim, this is your chance to say

>no link
>GO AWAY SHILL OBVIOUS LIE

like you guys always do!
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>>50763247
That's not how burden of proof works.
Besides, how are we supposed to find that article? Google "german arrested for refugee post on Facebok?"
Or ddg it?
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>>50763132
In theory, yes. They could seize 90% of consumer hardware with user data if they want, this shit is more dangerous than we can even imagine, they can make disappear whatever kind of proof they don't like
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>>50763247
>>50763236
Source: http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/justiz/hausdurchsuchung-nach-hass-facebook-posting-zu-alan-kurdi-a-1051606.html
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>>50763339
He hasn't yet been sentenced and his post wasn't "something bad about the refugee crisis", his post was literally "This isn't a tragedy, this is a reason for celebration!" as a comment under the picture of that dead syrian child on the beach.
That's hate-speech, plain and simple.
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>>50757621
you need poison to fight poison anon. only a jew can fight another jew, he knows how they think.

Wasn't Jesus Christ a Jew anon?
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>>50763111
The US govt.. wow. Corporations ARE the US govt now hiding behind disposable targets (politicians). Google is one of them. The 'do no evil' days are over and have been for a number of years now. They're just an arm or leg on the same monster now. The rest of this is just an exercise in PR and how much we'll accept. In small doses, over and over again.

Are you fucking 15 or just blissfully ignorant of reality? Jesus. Just gtfo.
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>>50763380
>That's hate-speech, plain and simple.
No, fuck off to tumblr you inbreed retard.
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>>50763453
How is "let's celebrate the death of a child!" not hate-speech?
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>>50763464
Expressing hate is not the same as hate speech. He isn't encouraging anyone or taking any action to go and kill the illegal immigrants.
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>>50763508
He is, however, encouraging people to not grief the death of an immigrant child, but to celebrate it instead.
There are more ways to express hate other than killing.
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>>50763527
>He is, however, encouraging people to not grief the death of an immigrant child, but to celebrate it instead.

So? I see nothing wrong with it. He can celebrate whatever the fuck he wants.
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>>50763527
You said it yourself, he told people to celebrate. How is telling people to celebrate in any way "hate"?
>sjw_logic.jpg
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>>50763554
>>50763571
Oh man I wish I could be edgy and 12 again.
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>>50763613
Yeah you wish. Because you'd go to fucking jail as an adult.
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>>50763613
It's not a matter of being edgy. It is the same problem as this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-IX69mjpcA
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>>50763210
>it was on a GERMAN website
>i dont know german
how did u know it was true what anon said
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>>50764361
I'm guessing the .de and all the ^^'s and ;-)'s gave it away
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>>50763380
>hate speech is a crime in his country
In America, hate crime is only tacked on as an additional offense and never the primary charge.

Enjoy your no freedom.
>>50763613
You're not even free enough to be an edgy adult.
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>>50764752
Hate crimes and hate speech aren't the same thing. America doesn't recognize hate speech as a legitimate concept there are no hate speech laws here the only speech that isn't considered protected is speech that can incite violence or unrest or direct threats.
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>>50757036
>dumb frogposter
as expected
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>>50764939
>hate speech
More like political dissident speech.
Can't hold an opinion other than the state's or else you go to prison. It's very traditionally European.
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>>50756963
So when does this shit go into effect?
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>>50765959
It has to be ratified by the member countries first. How long that takes depends on the government in each one. In America it has to be visible to the public for like 60 days before congress is allowed to vote on it
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>>50756963
Don't worry, reddit will save us all, for /g/'s only power is complaining
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>>50756989
Okay then.
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Bump. I can't believe so many normies are complacent or just plain don't know about this.
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>>50766977
>Implying a neckbeard weeb faggot like you or 90% of /g/ can or will do anything about it
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>>50761930
>t's like going on a bus ride without paying for your ticket, or having dinner in a restaurant without paying, while thinking that it is perfectly acceptabl
No it's more like buying a VHS movie or Renting one or whatever and fast forwarding through the ads at the beginning
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>>50766977
looks like germany might not be part of this madness.
http://www.thelocal.de/20151010/big-turnout-at-berlin-anti-ttip-demo
people are fucking angry and even politicians dont want to yield more power to corporations and outside interests.
merkels support is dwindeling and over half the german populace is now against the "refugees".
if germany turns away from the TTIP. it will force other european nations to do the same.
after that time will tell of the TPP or europes way is better.

if europes economy stays strong and independant in this. i can see TPP countries rioting for privacy and corporate independance.

even the biggest normie will get angry when he suddenly has to pay 3 bucks for his milk instead of 1
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>>50756963
I didnt choose shit you cock gobbler TPP was written behind closed doors
were technically not supposed to know of it until 5 years after it passes
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>>50763380
Ewwwwwwwww, go away deutschland-kun
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