How does /g/ feel about steamOS?
It's almost ready
I'm a Valve employee by the way, I should disclose that. Nobody high up in the chain though.
>Valve employee
>beter performace
>windows
>>47743704
Well if it introduces more people to Linux its a good thing
Maybe it'll become Ubuntu for gaymers
>>47743750
>Maybe it'll become Ubuntu for gaymers
hopefully.
And the chain reaction from that is that we stard getting more software compatible with Linux. Valve itself has been on the business of selling software, not just games, since a few years.
A steam OS running on Debian, backed by a billion dollar corporation is a good thing for Debian based distros at least. It will ensure more compatibility and stuff available
>>47743774
All they need to do is get a lot more game support. I know theres a fuck ton of games you're able to play, but if theres just a few games you can't play, then it's pointless.
>linux
>year of anything
>>47743799
you know, this is part of why I'm trying to promote the idea of an external HD. Not only I use it myself and I love this kind of setup, it has a second advantage: most gaming PCs/laptops already have a hard drive.
People can use Windows on the hard drive for windows required games, and steamOS on teh external HD for everything else.
>>47743899
See that would be awesome for me as there is no linux support for esea anticheat, so i could just windows it up for cs:go. But it seems like unnecessary time waste, if linux could just get the game support.
>>47743750
>if it introduces more people to Linux its a good thing
It's GNU/Linux for all the wrong reasons. How is having people switch from one proprietary DRM riddles OS to another, and thinking one is somehow superior, a good thing?
If you actually DID mean the kernel, Linux has already been introduced to millions of people in the way of Android so this will do comparatively little in spreading it.
But hey, enjoy your slavery.
>GNU/Linux with an EULA
Ha ha ha no
>HDs are one of the PC parts that pretty much never dies
WHAT
>>47744068
First of all it's just Linux
Second of all using Linux with proprietary software is not slavery, anymore than signing a contract to purchase a house or a car. Enjoy living in the gutter with toe fungus King Stallman I guess
Third it will open DESKTOP Linux to a wider audience as that is what this conversation is about
Enjoy your autism
>>47744029
well CS:Go runs natively on linux now
>>47744068
steam is DRM
steamOS is open source, and people can have a parallel release that removes anything from it that Valve ad that people may think it is shady
Makes sense that I should install my OS and games on an external HDD and get terrible read/write speeds over USB compared to an SSD on SATAIII. I'm sure open-world games like Far Cry 4 and GTA V will run great with the hampered read speed.
>HDs are one of PC parts that pretty much never die
kek.
>>47744222
>get terrible read/write speeds over USB compared to an SSD on SATAIII
it's not 2010 anon. External HDs are fast enough for video games even over USB 2.
Yes, internal HD is faster, but external HD is more practical for every day life
>>47744222
In 20 years of PC I have never ever had a hard drive die. I've lost countless motherboards and video cards though
>>47743704
"Nobody high up in the chain though"
It is common knowledge that Valve has no management hierarchy. Confirmed for Brawl.
>>47744261
That's nice for you.
>>47743704
>I'm a valve employee
So, how was the vacation last week?
>>47744261
Well you're just super lucky. Most issues that come into work is dead hard drives, or dying hard drives.
>>47744292
How old are those hard drives however? 7+ years?
Other PC/laptop parts seem to die pretty frequently, on an yearly basis something goes wrong with a PC. And fuck, I've bought os many parts taht came with factory problems it's not funny. Never a hard drive though
>>47744314
Your computers must be haunted.
>>47743704
2nonfree4me
it's bad enough that the gaymes are nonfree
fucking hell, I just came up with a genius fucking program; thinks Valve corporate shill.
>>47743704
>However, HDs are one of PX parts that pretty Mich never die.
What. The. Fuck.
>>47744325
I joked to my friend with exactly that: I'm haunted
Guess what lifted the haunt? The external HD. Now I have 1000 PC parts that may malfunction - as long as it isn't the HD, which is just one, I'm fully covered.
I make vidya, websites and other shit. Every time a computer fails and I lose my HD, it was hell on earth, even with dropbox backups. I'd have to reinstall a full OS and configure all the programs
Now that's a thing of the past
I'll only have to reinstall an OS if the HD dies. The HD is my weakest link, but the only link. Other PC parts are irrelevant ot my daily work and setup
>>47744314
Tbh, most the time it's newish laptops. Old laptops with old hard drives are usually fine lol.
>>47744348
>What. The. Fuck.
I don't think I've ever heard of a friend saying their HD died, except one guy because of a lightning storm.
But dead power supplies, video cards and mobos? Fuck, allday everyday
Maybe american HDs fail more often because the NSA is constantly scanning them??
>>47744243
It is indeed not 2010, most gamers (excluding poorfags) have probably got their OS on an SSD by now, so why would they instead opt for an external drive?
While external HDs have come a long way in terms of speed, it's still pretty pathetic compared to any decent mid-range SSD. If having a portable OS disk is that important to you, sure go ahead. But personally I would never sacrifice the speed of an SSD for that portability. I'm fucking mustard race goddammit, I WANT SPEED!
>>47743704
>Nobody high up in the chain though.
>Valve
Is it really that hard to lie?
>>47744369
>newish laptops.
maybe people shake them too much I guess
>>47744163
>First of all it's just Linux
wrong faggot
no one calls android just Linux or even fucking Android/Linux
Linux core is the least important part of "Linux"
The only hold Linux has on anyone is the massive amount of drivers available for it plus the copy left licensing. In most cases I could use BSD Kernel and essentially replace Linux.
>>47744383
>Maybe american HDs fail more often because the NSA is constantly scanning them??
Kek.
A lot of people don't know their hard drive is dying. They're still in super bad condition, and attribute the slowdown in system speed to malware or other software issues. I see more dying hard drives than I do mobo/PSU/etc. I encourage you to run seatools on all your drives as an experiment. The problem with HDDs is that a lot of the time you're not aware of failure until it's too late. Winblows doesn't report it well at all. I have seen gnome3 report a bad HDD. That was fun.
Idk where I was going with this.
Do you guys have a plan to get devs and GPU companies to properly support vulkan?
If MS get anywhere with DX12 it will just fragment the PC userbase and kill PC games for good.
>>47744445
>GPU companies
nigga Unlimited Detail Engine is almost out, GPUs are dead
>>47744163
SteamOS has absolutely no GNU software?
>>47744209
>parallel release that removes anything from it that Valve ad that people may think it is shady
So... any other distro available right now?
>>47744576
>So... any other distro available right now?
that will run software made primarily for steamOS?
>>47744613
What software is made for SteamOS that isn't DRM or non-free?
>>47743704
>year of the linux desktop
>encouraging people to have linux on an external drive only and only for gaming with steam
>>47744383
Hard drives probably fail more often than any other computer component. I've never seen a motherboard die except after being handled improperly, not including laptop motherboards that get ports snapped off in falls.
>>47744405
>>47744576
It's called Linux in the common vernacular
Calling the OS Linux is fine as an identifier
Look at what Linus said in my first post
It is just Linux. Period.
>>47744716
Well memed :^)
>>47743704
>better performance
On what? Theoretical next versions of OpenGL and the Source engine, along with mythical drivers?
>>47744756
You don't say Microsoft Windows plus .NT every time do you autist?
>>47744716
>implying /g/ is the common vernacular
>implying I wasn't using it in a case where the distinction was necessary
>implying you don't suck cocks
>>47743704
>valve vr is da future!
>valve gamepad is da future!
>valve paid mods are da future!
>valve linux is da future!
tip top kek m9. maybe gayben should stick to making games and leave the jewing to the experts. valve hasn't had a successful product since steam prove me wrong
>mfw linux gaming was just starting to gain momentum when dx12 raped it to death, again
>>47744781
No I don't, which is why people should call "Linux", GNU.
>>47743704
As far as I can tell there's no reason for me to use it instead of just running the Steam client on Gentoo. I'm glad that it exists anyway. I think it has the potential to be very good for both gaming and Linux. It worries me, though, that there aren't more good games. Sure, there are a lot of games, but most of them suck. There are only a handful of AAA titles. A tiny fraction of what Windows has. When that hits 50% I'll be excited, because it will only have a positive impact on Linux if people want to use it.
>>47744674
>that isn't DRM or non-free?
people living in the real world need to use non free software anon, and we'd like to use it on linux natively.
Unless you think you can gimp your way into a photoshop career
pun intended.
>>47744890
You are aware of this though right?
http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/178276-valve-open-sources-its-directx-to-opengl-translation-software-here-come-the-steamos-and-linux-games
I would love to see all steam games ported to this. If so It would be amazing to set up a little box that can be upgraded and replace my home consoles completely. If it's not stripped down and I can use all of the media players I use on linux etc. It would be a hell of a media center.
>>47745014
Give me all of this and retroarch its game over man...
>>47744383
HDD's are the single most failing component by far.
>>47745100
Let's say it is
What would you bet on however?
HDD failure vs All of the other components failure
The HDD is just one vs everything else, even if HDDS fail more, they are safer when compared to everything else.
>>47744952
I wasn't, but the article says that it doesn't work with modern versions of Direct3D. Would most of the games that could run on this also run in Wine? Because of Wine it's really only modern games that have been missing from Linux.
>>47745121
go away adblock shill
I will not be using SteamOS but I like the idea of it.
I would hope Steam would improve their Linux support overall rather than force people to jump aboard the new OS.
If that is part of the equation then my body is ready.
So I can just plug this into my macbook and become a gaymer?
>>47743704
transcribed for you :^)
1) Buy an external Hard drive. Unlike most Windows releases, SteamOS (Linux) can be
installed in an external hard drive that you can just plug at different PCs/Laptops at will,
and it will work. It was coded to do that on purpose. If you ever feel like switching from
your PC to a laptop and play vidya in bed, you can easily do with this while keeping all your
files, installed shit, and game saves ready.
>>47743704
>>47745369
2) If your PC or laptop ever has a serious hardware malfunction, not only you can easily switch
to a new PC on the fly and carry business as usual, if you need to give a laptop or PC to a tech
guy he will have no access to any of your sensitive (cryptocoin, saved passwords, personal files)
material, since your files will be secured on your external HD with you.
>>47743704
>>47745381
3) External HDs are perfectly fine for video games. However, nothing prevents you from buying an
internal small hard drive for gaming only as well, and install all your games there if you want. Your games will be in your internal HD, while your OS and all files are stored on the external HD.
>>47745393
4) Sometimes you may still need Windows, for say banking applications or some software like CS6.
With a gaming PC with a decent multicore CPU, you can very easily (no tech experience required)
install a virtual copy of windows inside your SteamOS, kinda like running an emulator. To do so,
go to virtualbox.org and download it. It is very easy to use this program, it is simpler than Steam
itself. Install a Windows copy from a DVD (protip pirated image), and you can start emulating it.
For better performance, it is recommended that you set a fixed HD space for it, instead of one that
expands as you go. Also, check other performance tips online, such as enabling multiple cores on
the program and your virtual machine will run pretty much as fast as native Windows if your CPU
is decent.
>>47743704
>>47745404
5) Use a cloud storage like MEGA (50gb free) and put all your files inside it, so even if your
external HD is stolen or malfunctioning, all your stuff has a backup. However, HDs are one of PC
parts that pretty much never die.
>>47743704
>>47745369
>>47745381
>>47745393
>>47745404
>>47745412
http://pastey.org/view/raw/a17289ea
>>47745412
>HD's never die
nigga I want some of what you're smoking
>>47743704
What is the requirement for it to be "year of the desktop linux"? That Linux marketshare double from its current 1% to 2%? That Linux has higher marketshare than any other competitor? That Linux has more than 50% marketshare?
>>47745393
Please try playing a modern game from an external HDD - GTA 5, Battlefield 4, etc. and check the loading times.
>>47745451
>>47745476
chill ami/g/os that's why cloud storage is being put in tha place, if you like to contribute then just replace HD for SSD
>>47745393
>>47745476
Not to mention the latency
Is this a bad joke?
>>47745476
>spoiler: a single map of BF4 loads for about 3 minutes -> you have missed the initial action
>>47745489
>chill ami/g/os that's why cloud storage is being put in tha place
That does not make any sense.
>>47745500
>>47745509
kek I just transcribed OP's picture so it can be used in the future, sorry for an uneducated transcribed opinion, it would be better if you improve it
>>47745509
Falcon! pls update the firefox /g/uide
request policy or adblock are deprecated in favor of policeman or ublock, also userscripts is dead
>>47745369
>>47745381
>>47745393
>>47745404
>>47745412
I sincerely hope you didn't type this by hand.
>>47743704
>This Christmas buy a new laptop
>Create a partition for Debian and Steam OS
>Want Wargame Red Dragon
>System requirements say It'll run on intel HD 3000, I have HD4600
>Buy it, install it
>It won't run well - horrible framerate and plenty of glitches
>Install it on Windows
>Runs OK
Wait is steamOS literally an OS I have to install on my computer like a Linux distro or is it just steam for Linux
>>47745704
Steam OS is an OS.
But there is a steam client for Linux too.
>>47745704
SteamOS is a Debian-derived distro developed by Valve. Steam for Linux will run on it as well as on other distributions. It'll probably boot straight into Big Picture mode, for a console-like experience. The point of it is that they will be able to optimize it for gaming, and Steam Machines will not have to depend on an OS maintained by someone other than Valve.
>>47745714
>>47745714
Yeah just read about it. I'm a mint fag so the lack of features on steamOS at the moment is making me err away from it.
SteamOS to me is just Valve's method of using linux. They want control over the environment so they add their own stuff onto a linux/ubuntu base so they have a stable, controlled environment to launch games into.
Generally I'm more interested in graphics APIs like Vulcan moving into the linux space, to end the tyranny of directX. SteamOS is nice and all but is useless if everything requires DX.
SteamOS bringing games into the linux space as a native thing is great, my view on it is I want to run games on linux machines.
As for the steam machine- eh. It's a specialised tool for something you should just use a general one for.
A cheap $400-500 PC used as a HTPC can do most of what a steam machine can do, and if you already have a more powerful gaming desktop you can stream high-intensity games from elsewhere, as well as run games natively since a $500 PC is pretty beefy.
The form factor of the steam machines I see as pointless, I think the goal should have been to get extremely cost effective performance, forgetting about size.
>>47745014
think about it
>crack home consoles
>install GNU/Linux on said consoles
>girls and cash money
think about it
>>47745603
I do not update the firefox guide, I only host it. You can contact the guy who does update it.
>>47744163
Like my car?
>>47743704
More users is probably a good thing.
Why not /home partition on an eSATA drive?
