Are resumes technology? Hows the resume looking? Trying to get a better tech job.
Well, I was just working on mine.
I'm a first year student and I'm trying to get something like a summer internship at a network engineering company.
I want to get some real-life experience, after just messing around in a home lab setting.
Writing it in LaTeX, of course.
I have a hard time thinking of what to put under networking.
What do you think?
>>47615434
Well first off I think it would be better to write a resume in english
Is it best to just have one page and more simpler content then detailed and have more than one page?
>>47615434
>Not english
binned
>>47615539
>>47615568
Even when I'm Dutch, at least the first company I'm sending it to is Dutch, and all the clients are Dutch?
Translating it shouldn't be a problem though, and I thought about doing that anyway.
![worst-resume[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DZkHw8N.jpg "worst-resume[1].png")
>>47615173
obligatory
Can /g/ suggest any decent resources/websites for making a good CV?
>>47615649
>>47615649
>>47615649
Monitoring.
>>47615649
Microsoft Word
I'm going to guess that despite low headline unemployment, the low participation rate and part-time for economic reasons numbers, combined with the complete lack of any wage pressures, mean that companies are still not inclined to lower their standards and accept "warm bodies", and instead still prefer to not hire rather than accept someone with poor experience/qualifications.
How accurate is this assessment? (US, midwest)
>>47615544
>Is it best to just have one page and more simpler content then detailed and have more than one page?
One page. Make your descriptions as concise as possible.
Remember to write the resume for the job you want. I've made the mistake of writing the most correct description of tasks that I did, rather than focusing on, um, reinterpreting the description for my intended audience.
For example, if you're going for more of a lead or managerial role, you'd want to reduce the amount of detail on spewing technology buzzwords and a little more on bullshit MBA buzzwords that describe how you leveraged existing resources to push through a new solution that synergized multiple departments and increased overall throughput.
I've only done a couple years' worth of interviewing, but it's always annoying to get some two or three page resume. Just give me a minimal overview of what you did, and I'll ask you for more information about the stuff that seems relevant. I'm evaluating your ability to clearly explain things verbally, too.
>>47615688
>s, mean that companies are still not inclined to lower the
I would go with "if you're qualified and fit their environment, they'll hire you." This is 4chan so I'm going to preface this with saying I'm not trying to be an asshole, but I've never applied for a job I didn't get. I knew what I was getting in to, tailored my resume for the specific position and employer, and played the game. A little finesse, not too much, and do your research. You'll float to the top, at the very least.
>>47615688
>and instead still prefer to not hire rather than accept someone with poor experience/qualifications.
Probably true. Employers don't want to take any risks these days. It's kind of laughable.
Personally, I've always been a straight shooter, but fuck that. From here on out I'm going to lie and fabricate the experience that employers imagine that they want.
"We're really looking for a candidate who can hit the ground running."
"Nigga, I've been a professional software engineer for two decades. I've never once hit the ground IN ANY OTHER WAY."
Seriously, technology jobs are ALL ABOUT learning on the go. I've hardly ever done the same thing twice. Yet I'll get rejected for a job because I'm missing one out of the ten unrelated technology requirements they have.
Fuck employers.
>>47615824
There's a reason every engineer's homepage is Google
>>47615811
>I've never applied for a job I didn't get.
If you're not failing, you're not reaching far enough.
>>47615836
I mean, I'm one of five Americans to work at [huge tech company] in my hiring fiscal year. Hint, think Mountain View and San Jose.
>>47615835
Oh my fucking God, yes. I had some jackass ask me a retardedly unrealistic question about how I'd go about, I don't know, looking up a phone number in a list or something. I told him, "I dunno, I'd probably spend some time Googling search strategies".
He got all horrified looking. Let me tell you, Googling is a critical part of HOW I REFINE AND DEFINE A PROBLEM. It's not looking up a solution, it's an active part of how I come to a solution.
Every person I've worked with who has been in the sort of "anti-Googling" camp has always written the shittiest, most unmaintainable code. They're always reinventing the wheel ten times over because they never bothered to look around and realize tools and libraries already existed to form a decent solution.
>I'm one of five Americans to work at [huge tech company] in my hiring fiscal year
Wut? English, please.
>>47615632
fun fact: his resume is still up on his website
http://www.pjreddie.com/static/Redmon%20Resume.pdf
>>47615173
No they are not technology.
>>47615836
>>47615852
Someone called me out for not "reaching far enough," so I wanted to clarify that reaching for the sake of seeing where you fail is a pretty boneheaded strategy. I could've gone into HFT and finance, but thats not my strength - so I shot for the top in tech, which is why I gave the advice I gave in >>47615811
>>47615811
I'm more worried about what happens when you know you're not qualified and don't fit their environment. I know I can pick shit up like >>47615824 talked about. But I don't have experience and qualifications. And I have to hide the fact that I'm a nine-to-fiver who's only doing this in the first place because he needs a paycheck. Employers, rather understandably, try very hard to keep people like that out.
I'd prefer not to give up and say "well, retail is the best I'll ever get", but I'm starting to think that might be the case.
>>47615964
I came into what I do (system engineering) from a 100% retail background. Granted, I had also just graduated college - but just to check, you're applying for some kind of associate level position or something more senior? At the associate level, its supposed to be implicit theres going to be heavy onboarding and training (even if its informal, like follow Ted around and learn how shit really goes down).
Or are you like 50 and changing careers?
>>47616031
I'm a fuckup from r9k. I have a two-year degree and dropped out of a four-year program (ironically, because I couldn't pass the "experiential learning" requirement, where they tell you "okay, now go find an internship, and come back when you have one") I have some scattered experience, and some old coursework, but really barely enough to fill a page.
I'd be perfectly fine with some low-level sort of thing; if I got an offer for some glorified help-the-real-IT-staff deal for like $35k, I'd take that. There don't seem to be many such jobs advertised though. There are plenty of Senior this-or-that Manager Analyst and such listings every time I look on Monster or in the newspaper. And, as you say, it's not worth bothering applying to something you're that far underqualified for. I get turned down for entry level stuff too though, testing and QA, tech support, a few general IT monkey sort of deals. I'm guessing that there are a lot of people after entry-level anything, and as a result they don't need some neet in his 20s, they can get a more energetic and better qualified college kid. I've looked at internships too, all seem to have the requirement that you be an active student, so that's probably out.
>>47615964
>And I have to hide the fact that I'm a nine-to-fiver who's only doing this in the first place because he needs a paycheck. Employers, rather understandably, try very hard to keep people like that out.
Oh man, this one's hilarious.
In my first job out of college, where I was vastly, vastly more qualified than any of my peers, the engineering manager loved me. Then I had to go to HR. The HR guy's brilliant, insightful question was to ask me, "would you say you're into computers[1] more as a profession, or as a hobby." I almost laughed in his face, then said some bullshit like, "well, I don't think you'd get to my level of experience at my age if it wasn't both."
Software Engineering, and probably tech in general, is the only employment area I'm aware of where employers actively expect that prospective hires will work all day on programming/tech, then go home and spend their spare time working on the exact same thing.
I had a girlfriend who was a CPA. None of the accounting firms would ever ask, "so, can you show me some tax returns you worked on in your spare time at home?" I've literally never heard of any other industry where an employer would expect that you personally go home and do more of what you do for the sake of learning things to ultimately benefit your employer.
[1] he actually said "computers". I was a recent grad CS major, math minor, who was interviewing for a programming job at a manufacturer of digitizer tablets.
>>47615961
You still never explained your bizarre and meaningless sentence structure.
>>47616216
I'm an engineer, not a poet. I'm leveraging my fancy company as credibility.
Taken from another anon but using it as an example.
Fun Facts:
1. If your GPA is low, don't list it
2. Always put experience over Education if you have it
3. If you have good internships and relevant job experience, you can remove "Taco Bell Cashier" off your resume
4. DO NOT BULLSHIT. One C++ class doesn't mean you know C++ enough to put on resume.
5. Temper expectations, 95% of you wont make 80k out of school. Take what you can get for job experience then build up to that good job.
6. Use recruiters, job fairs are usually a wash and cold calling is even worse.
7. Frats mean nothing, sorry for wasting 4 grand
23 year old MIS college grad making 77k a year.
>>47617677
>4. DO NOT BULLSHIT. One C++ class doesn't mean you know C++ enough to put on resume.
FUCK. That means I know nothing.
>>47617363
What are the benefits of using LaTeX? Do employers actually care?
>>47617677
>4. DO NOT BULLSHIT. One C++ class doesn't mean you know C++ enough to put on resume.
so then how would you suggest one get a job if one lacks the experience of item 3 then?
I posted here a week or two ago in the resume thread, and ended up mostly re-writing my resume following some of the advice thrown around in the thread.
>>47617899
>prepared automated reports on attacks and threats
Can you elaborate a little more on this? Sounds like an interesting project.
>>47617715
>>47617857
I would recommend getting certs, they're not terribly expensive and pair nice with degrees plus they open doors for internships and jobs.
Network+
Security+
Linux+
CCNA
>>47617965
It was just a simple script that looked at who and from where people were trying to log in and with what username.
Looking at this report, you could assume that China is a huge botnet (lots of logins, lots of unique attacking IPs), some guy in Indonesia is really persistent (lots of logins, only 6 IPs used to login), and attackers love logging into test accounts. Corporations use intelligence like this to make decisions on what needs to be secured, etc.
>>47617677
What do you do? I majored in MIS for 2 years, but then I dropped out because I was an alkie. Might go back, but I'm worrying about the 6 months-1 year unemployment gaps all over my resume.
>>47618185
Hee Thai is still a thing, fucking chinks.
I used some shitty resume maker site and just started shitting out what ever came to mind, what do I keep? What do I rework?
>>47618190
I'm a Business Analyst with a focus in Cyber Security. I would say go for it. MIS degrees are super hot right now. Plus they usually segway into really high paying jobs.
>>47618325
How much of a focus on programming is there, though? I remember there being a decent amount. I'm a terrible programmer, so I don't want to get myself 3 years in and realize I'm not cut out for it.
>>47618321
>>47618335
In the degree itself there was minimal, maybe 2 or 3 classes but my job requires a bit or bash and python scripting. Most business analyst positions don't though.
>>47618377
That makes me feel better. I actually had an LLC for a year, I sold herbal health stuff online, so I think it'd look good on a resume even if it was back in 2013.
>>47618387
Yeah, you'll be fine. It's not when you finish just that you do.
>>47618325
>cyber security
That's neat. Do you ever get any sophisticated attacks, or is it just Russians running automated SQLi tools and vuln scanners?
>>47616162
Ive noticed some job listings lie About the required experience. They're bullshitting and only dream of getting a 5+ yr guy for their lowball wage. They fully expect the guy they hire will be a beginner. My boss did that.
>>47618463
I can honestly say I've never seen anything extremely sophisticated (eg. Stuxnet). Most issues we have are users falling for really stupid shit you can't mitigate like email attachments and stuff like "cutepuppies.jpg.exe". There's only so much you can do as a security team.
But yeah most of the time it's super obvious brute forcing blowing up the firewalls. We always assume it's a mask for something else.
>>47618530
>most of the time it's super obvious brute forcing blowing up the firewalls
I know exactly what you need: a good ol' honeypot to keep all the Chinese and Indonesians busy.
>>47618615
We made a honey pot once and a hacker filled it up with gay porn. We all got a good chuckle. Apparently it was too obvious a honey pot.
>>47617677
>95% of you wont make 80k out of school.
That's shitty. I graduated in 1998 and went to work in Phoenix, AZ (low cost of living) for $47k per year. That was somewhat remarkable, but at the time $40k would have been a fairly average new CS grad salary in a fairly typical cost of living region. Within two years I was around $59k at the same company.
In 2002, I moved to San Francisco and got a job within two months (during the Dot-Com Bust) for $100k without benefits. Six months later I was making $96k with full benefits.
If I went to the Bay Area again right now, I'd probably be lucky to pull $130k. Salaries are awfully stagnant, in my opinion.
>>47617715
>FUCK. That means I know nothing.
Quite literally. When I graduated college, I'd already been working part time for the Corps of Engineers. I was doing multithreaded Windows stuff.
When I interview people now, I'm *appalled* at how little a recent grad knows. Honestly, I'm not surprised at all by the annoying "5 years experience in X" ads. In my opinion, this is a problem with CS degrees. They're essentially useless. I'd like to see computing tech schools become a thing. If you want to write CRUD apps and make real-world value, go to a computing tech school. If you want to work in research or academia, get a CS degree.
It's getting a bit more like my vision, what with the "bootcamp" type places that are springing up around web development. I'd just like to see the industry man the fuck up and admit that they don't care if people know P vs NP, and that they actually just want someone who can turn requirements into functioning software.
Am I supposed to put an Americanized name or my chingchong name on my resume?
>>47619802
I'd hire you for that joke. YMMV
>>47619834
I'm really confused for what I should put because I've applied to countless internship positions and haven't heard back from any of them, even for an interview.
>>47619802
Ching-Ling "Dave" Chong
If I'm looking to work as an entry level help desk technician, will indicating that I'm A+ certified really make a difference in the long run, if I already have 3 years experience doing freelance PC Tech consulting/troubleshooting and a degree in IS? I'm halfway to getting the cert, and I'm wondering if I'm just wasting my time sending in resumes without listing it.
>>47615632
The dude finished 3rd place at a regional ACM competition. Show some respect. It's kind of sad he uses this resume. If he changed it to a plain one, he could at least get an entry level.
>>47615173
>Are resumes technology
no, and I have no idea why these and tech support threads keep getting allowed here.
What does /g/ think? Can I get a real live infosec job doing research soon?
Here's mine. I made it a LaTeX template if anyone's interested.
>>47620436
>type 85 wpm
Why would you even bother putting that? Do you also put that you know how to tie your shoes?
>>47620455
Admittedly, it's a bit dated. I average 110 - 120 now. I'm sorry my credentials are useless.
>>47620455
>went to NYIT
>did shit at Stanford
>worked in the Empire State Building
>85 WPM
well fuck, his life is shit compared to yours at some local CC, I bet.
>>47620436
Jesus dude it's ok if your resume goes 2 pages
>>47620498
I sat with my boss one day when he was looking for applicants after I had told him I would be gone in a year. Whenever he saw multiple pages stapled together, he would tear out all but the first and throw them away. Not that guy, but it really does matter
>>47620523
Yeah, but you need white space. >>47620436 is way too fucking cluttered to be on one page.
>>47615890
>needing to google something as simple as a search algorithm
It's like fucking needing to google the solution to 1+1. He's not horrified you need to google, he's horrified you're so fucking stupid.
I google shit all the time, but not simple things like search, sort, or simple data structures.
>>47620628
Are there any books that can help someone with creating programming algorithms?
www.cvmkr.com
I suggest trying that website out. It gives you many different styles to format your resume.
Content and style are both important.
Got a job with this clutter
When a job posting has an option for "paste your resume", does that mean it's a fucking bullshit posting where a human doesn't even read it but it just gets sent through a computer looking for buzzwords?
>>47621672
Yes, that why I made my resume this way
>>47621633
>no college
>only an A+
>learning to program
>I now know 3 languages
>quickly building a portfolio
>2 games(one simple, one hugely complex)
>add to that one 1 static site and 1 "chat program"
>have 1 large company contract on my resume
>navy exp.
how fucked am i?
>inb4 driver's license discussion
>>47615631
Maybe include that you can speak english, but I'd say if youre sending it to dutch companies there's not a problem
>>47622525
>jon
doxed
>>47622491
I would trade places in a heartbeat. Did you get any applicable training in the navy?
>>47615632
>tfw his credentials are 10 times better than mine
There is truly no justice in this world
>>47621310
I know there are some books on making algorithms that people recommend a lot, but I can't think of any off the top of my head. I might check the /g/ and /sci/ wikis if I were you.
>>47620224
He deserves no respect. I don't care what he's won.
>>47615434
Calling it a "CV" just makes you sound like an asshole.
>>47624840
Why's that? He's from Netherlands after all. In my country it's common to use "CV" instead of the native's language word.
>>47624840
Not everyone is from America you retard
>>47622525
>>47615434
You don't need CV/Resume on the top as this is already known and really not needed.
Just have your full name along the top instead
>>47617363
I really like the layout and look of this.
>>47617765
A good-looking resume matters. LaTeX can help with that because it outputs nicer results than a standard word processor, but it doesn't carry any meaning on its own. Just like buying a mechanical keyboard doesn't magically make you type faster, it simply allows you to.
>>47620364
My first thought was "I'm not reading this shitty font." In the past, I would have thought this in jest or said it just to make fun of you after giving it an honest read, but it truthfully is enough of a turn off to me now that I don't want to read it. I can only imagine what employers who have to look through hundreds of these things would think.
>>47615649
If you're looking for a job in the EU, you might want to consider using Europass https://europass.cedefop.europa.eu/en/documents/curriculum-vitae/templates-instructions
>>47615173
Just finished putting a resume together for a job fair at my college. Wish me luck anons
>>47626057
Good luck anon, I hope you end up working for Facebook and sabotage them from the inside. We'll be waiting.
>>47626202
Kek, I'd never work at Facebook, I'm staying on the East Coast
What's a good resume font?
Calibri hasn't given me good results.
>>47626295
>>47616162
The problem is that you're lazy and you're waiting for a job to fall into your lap. I'm going to take an entitled stance and tell you to get off your ass and get a job.
Source: someone making 75k in the tech field with no degree, no debt, and was formerly extremely lazy (now only very lazy).
You have to play the game. You have to start at the bottom. Go get a shitty A+/MCE/Apple Certified Associate ($30 online test, people see it and go OH MY GOD APPLE MASTER!!!!), and start applying to level 1 jobs at colleges/grade/high schools. Or call these places/email them and ask if they'd be willing to let you shadow them for zero pay.
>>47618321
>>47618337
Objective
Experience
Certifications
Education
Language
Change the order to that. In fact, what the fuck, technical skills - Office? And you have a certification in Network Security? Uh. I'd hope you'd have more techinical skills than that.
You need buzzwords that will get picked up in your resume. Add shit like putty, bash, whatever into technical skills. That means the programs and techniques you use.
Also how important do people on /g/ see a Linkdin account, a Programming Portfolio or a Github with FOSS contributions is for getting a job in the industry?
>>47626295
Comic Sans or Papyrus.
>>47626295
I'm looking as well. I used Calibri in mine and just got a new job about a month and a half ago.
>>47615434
i just send mi Resume with a similar format for my first job as Dev... 1 page and to the point
>>47624840
CV is what we use here in The Netherlands and Flanders.
>>47626295
Open Sans.
>>47615779
>how you leveraged existing resources to push through a new solution that synergized multiple departments and increased overall throughput
I love you
>>47626642
I got my first job in security because of my GitHub/personal projects. It's a really good way to show employers what you're capable of that you can't exactly articulate in words on your CV
>>47615632
This person is clearly fucking insane.
>>47625403
>>47620364
there is nothing at all wrong with the font.
>>47615173
Don't trust this guy people. He's actually a pizza delivery man.
>>47627029
I agree, a total maniac
>>47627029
>>47627104
his resume must be stacked tho. I wonder if he uses LaTeX.
>>47627104
this man can do every kinda job
>>47616184
graphic design sort of falls under the same category. it's something to do with craftsmanship. writing good software requires attitude, problem solving skills and all the yada yada we all know too well. it's a craft. Passionate people are more likely to succeed in that kind of things
I don't understand. Why do you all lead with walls of text about your education and experience? It's takes a ton of effort to figure out your skills, and while the education might be a prerequisite nobody can really care that much about it?
>>47619699
I'm european and I have a honest question: when you guys talk about salary, is it before tax or fucking net income?
CS fresh grads at their first experience in my country make, guess how much, around 20-25k before tax / 13-15k after tax. I'm talking € of course
>>47627600
Salary should always be before tax. At least in denmark, tax is something you take care of yourself, your employer doesn't even know your tax bracket.
>>47627635
as long as you're an employee here, your employer is required by law to take care of tax reports on your behalf. They'll retain the taxes on your employee income from your monthly paycheck. You are responsible for reporting any extra income though.
>>47627710
Oh, I guess then you'd probably discuss post tax income.
How do I make this less shit?
>>47627933
One page only, tailor your skill list to match the particular job you are applying for.
>>47627933
Remove your age completely. You're not supposed to share info like that
Place of birth and nationality are irrelevant unless you're applying for a job in another country
You can probably remove your objective as it's basically what should be in your covering letter
Put college education above secondary education as its more important
Maybe less space wasted on listing all those skills and use more space to talk about your employment and volunteering experience?
>>47627933
Remove the red rectangles man it's unprofessional and makes your potential employer think you've got something to hide
>>47627933
>>47627982
>>47627980
>>47627977
>>47628015
Cheers.
Will look into these suggestions.
Good advice for CVs, especially software dev
http://ofb.net/~niniane/resume_howto.html
>>47627933
>listing firefox
>>47628177
Did you read the rest? He's a scientist, not a programmer and firefox has plugins for endnote, etc.
Still silly, but kind of understandable.
>>47626295
Just use WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT.
People who obsess over stuff like fonts usually do so because their CV is lacking content-wise.
What's the go-to LaTeX editor?
>>47626295
Computer Modern
>>47626295
I used Fontin
Can I ever got a developer/engineer job with this? I did a 180 halfway through in college, hence the art crap. Tear it apart /g/
inb4
>HTML/CSS
It got me the job at my local Best Buy lol.
https://github.com/mliu7/latex-moderncv
>>47628316
this is yours is formatted in latex. times new roman if formatted in MS word.
never use the \LaTeX glyph unless you want to look like an asshole
>>47628477
Why put hobbies? You're not on a dating site.
>>47615434
>>47615632
>>47617899
>>47622525
>>47628477
FUCK YOU! How do you know so many computer languages?! After 4 years I somehow passed without knowing shit. I swear to God.
>>47628703
HTML, CSS, Javascript (along with NodeJS and javascript frameworks) go hand in hand in web development
Java and Python you learn either as a hobby or in university/school
>>47628477
>References Available upon request
Remove this. It's obvious that you'd provide references so it's just wasted space.
>>47628703
Question is whether they actually know these languages or just put in everything they ever came across. I'd put 5 entries in "languages I could work with comfortably", but I were to put in every "I wrote a few lines of this back in the day" language, that would come up to 12 easily.
>or maybe even 20, I used to go on CodinGame and solve easy puzzles in every supported language just for my own amusement
>>47628703
Java and C were what my intro courses were taught in
Mobile Dev = Android = Java
AI, NLP used Python
Comparative programming languages was basically a class that introduced you to different types of languages, procedural vs functional vs declarative, was mainly Haskell but also JS and Prolog
Also Web Dev was Javascript, Python
>>47628690
>>47628775
Will do, this is just what my Technical Writing professor suggested we add.
>>47628477
>Hobbies: DIY working
replace that with wood working, microcontrollers or whatever it is
>>47628752
>Java is a hobby language
Do you actually believe this?
You realize the best way to just get a job after programming in college is Java and C# right?
Literally if you know Java and have a college degree you can start at any bank or small-medium software company. Same for C# but banks mostly use Java.
>>47628814
>Java is a hobby language
Not him but I do, I believe this. It's used for modding Minecraft.
>>47628798
>this is just what my Technical Writing professor suggested we add.
The fuck.
Hobbies are fine for most places though, they help people see if you're le epin culture fit face before they call you in for an interview.
>>47628288
in case you don't like vim then kile is a good alternative.
>>47627104
nigga even knows japanese, hes all over my anki decks
>>47628852
>>47628288
SublimeText + LaTeXTools package, SumatraPDF open next to it, GOAT workflow. Ctrl-B to build to PDF and Sumatra instantly updates automatically.
>>47627933
how hard was the jplt n3?
i just started learning jp in like january and i think i could maybe barely pass the n5. i want to be able to pass the n1 eventually and put it on my resume since i think it would be pretty neat.
but mostly for myself though
>>47628880
he looks like he couldve been saul goodman
>>47617765
It makes your resume look nice so employers might actually read it
>>47628288
You can use texmaker like a normal person
>>47628288
TexStudio
>>47622712
Almost everyone is the Netherlands are expected to speak English.
>>47628990
>Almost everyone is the Netherlands are expected to speak English.
Oh the irony, godverdomme.
>>47628903
3rd Level is the solid line compared to the thinner lines of levels around it. That level is in some cases harder than 2nd. In a way it separates the boys from the man. I'm somewhere in 4-5 so it's not resume worthy
>>47629120
yeah i know putting n5 on a res would be dumb. but i hope i can get to at least n3 by the time i graduate in a few years for some points on my resume
>>47629178
Eh, give me a couple years. Im already halfway done with this Core6k deck and fluentU is helping a lot. I'm a mixed bag with where I am.
>>47629209
fluentU looks neat ill try it out. im like 1/4 of the way through core 2k/6k optimized and ill probably be done by christmas maybe. i can already do most of the test n5 questions so thats nice for my motivation. keep going bro we can do it
>>47629120
>listing common operating systems
>listing operating systems under hardware
>listing MS office
>listing codecademy
Why?
>>47629337
Gotta start somewhere
>>47629358
fair enough.
For jobs in the recording/music industry
>2 associate degrees
Yeah, I changed my mind halfway through, fuck off
does gpa matter that much? because i was a poor student during my gen eds and i have like a 2.25 and im 2 semesters into the cs program at my school and i can maybe get a 3.0, i dont know how many a's and stuff that would take
>>47629472
Many places expect atleast a 3.0 so as long as you're in that range you're golden.
>>47629506
so shoot for at least a 3.0?
got it man thanks. i hope i can do it. ive been really worried
>>47615434
>EE
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why
>>47629612
He can help people with electrical problems
>"Ok sir, try unplugging the lamp and sticking the metal rod inside to test the frequency"
is there a nice little intro to using latex? i heard about it before but never figured out what it was until today and i think looks cool
>>47628288
vim(tex) on one side of your screen, some pdf that can view DVIs. Then you just compile every so often. That's all
>>47629532
shoot for a 3.3, then don't mention it on your resume.
GPA should be its own reward. The people who have 4.0's today are the same people you can trust to learn the SHIT out of whatever you need them to do.
>>47615688
The bigger issue is that there's not all that much tech in the Midwest other than hosting companies, Motorola, and ag tech firms. Even sysadmin jobs are rare outside of hosting in Chicagoland. Head for the west coast or the northeast.
I created a LaTeX class with some simple color boxes for information and timelines and custom header.
Actual CV fills entire page, for pic I pasted some sample text.
>>47617899
>using computer modern
Most people who have learned math at some point have become disgusted by this font. And it makes you look like a proud neckbeard.
(I used LaTeX for my resume too.)
>>47629952
the black header looks kind of out of place in juxtaposition with the other colors of the page, but other than that looks pretty good
>>47621633
I'd say it's a quite good resume actually, It needs way more white space though.
>>47630088
Nice dubs.
What font is it? Looks a bit like Ubuntu.
>>47626295
I used Ubuntu. That's the default font of Ubuntu. It looks so good on a resume, no kidding.
(I'm >>47630088)
>>47621633
Besides all the meme brogramming cancer here, the fonts are really disgusting. And the worst thing is colleges are churning out students who have php and mysql as the most legit languages on their resumes.
>>47628960
Dear diary, today anon was the only non autist
>>47629952
Using non-white backgrounds for fields on your resume makes them look really fucking shit when Jenny prints them out on her Epson laser BW printer. Just looks like a grey mess
ITT: How to be a better goy for overlords
>>47630088
driver's license*
>>47630088
how do you have 2 masters and a phd by 23?
are you one of those smart kids? i had one of them in my computer organization class. couldnt have been older than 10
I have a question. I'm getting around to writing a resume, since I'd like to find some internship or whatever for the summer break. I have two unfinished projects now (they're both shitty gaymen, but I have fun fiddling with them and adding more stuff to them). The thing is, I don't have anything else besides the projects I do at uni. Both of those projects have 3000+ lines of code, so while they're not impressive, I do have something to show.
Should I include them on my resume?
And should I include projects I had to do for my classes, such as some minesweeper clone done with windows forms?
>>47630862
Hows moms basement?
>Send resume to multiple jobs with title "resume.pdf"
>get no replies
>Send resume to multiple jobs with title "(myname).pdf"
>Got 4 replies
So, I might be working for Razer.
>>47615890
It's true but you are never supposed to say that in the interview. He was probably trying to figure out your analytic ability in general.
Holy shit, so many poorly formatted resumes with irrelevant info. It's not rocket science, just google a professional looking resume template and leave out personal bullshit.
>>47621310
specifically for programming interviews this book or Programming Interviews exposed. Thank me later.
>>47632936
anon I think you forgot to put your name in your resume
>>47633104
forgot image
>>47633106
nah my name is in the resume. it was literally the filename that changed their minds i guess.
just grab a freaking resume from
http://www.latextemplates.com/cat/curricula-vitae
or http://www.rpi.edu/dept/arc/training/latex/resumes/
I used one from the second link and did well
>>47622491
Having real shit to show is much more beneficial than having a school degree that shows you can take up space in a class room 2 or 3 days a week. Keep working on improving your shit and tossing out your resume.
>>47615173
mfw this resume is the exact (and first) resume template in Microsoft Word. I used it to get my current job. 10/10 would use again.
>>47620436
this made my eyes fucking bleed.
