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Other business laptops are also welcome in /tpg/ (e.g. Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook).
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If you're looking for purchase advice, READ THE BUYERS GUIDE FIRST. Then post, stating budget and requirements (e.g. size and performance).
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN T, X AND W/P SERIES if you want the Real ThinkPad Experience™
Recommended models:
T420 - 14", normal size - makes you look autistic
X220 - 12.5", lightweight - shit resolution
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Why ThinkPad? (also applies to other business laptops)
>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (no, not the old ones).
>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
>you will get laughed at for looking like an autistic neckbeard
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Used ThinkPad Buyers Guide:
http://ktgee.net/tpg
EPP discount for new ThinkPads (USA & Canada only, usually 15%+ off):
http://pastebin.com/wumE7L2f
ThinkWiki - Info on ThinkPads and running GNU/Linux on them:
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki
ThinkPad service guides w/ tutorial videos:
https://www.lenovoservicetraining.com/
My x200s is becoming a pain to use (absolutely shit ccfl screen, weak battery, 2 out of 3 usbs not working, cracks on the body, 2gb ram - can be upgraded but not sure if to invest in it now) and I have two options:
a) Local guy is selling x200s with better CPU than i have (1.86 > 1.6 GHz), 2gb ram, good battery and and broken screen for about 30$ (please note this is in Europe so everythings more expensive). I could scavange it, buy affs, put my old screen in it and sell it for some bucks. I just love x200s.
b) I could invest about 500€ to get something more recent. But newer x2** are heavier, have 16:9 and honestly, if i invested that much, i want something fancy. X1 is cool but could afford only 1st gen which has shit screen.
I usually just type, browse interents etc on linux with awesome, so weak CPU shouldnt matter much, should it?
>>52618698
Who /386/ here?
Still not satisfied with the responses in the previous thread of what makes Thinkpad more worth it than e.g. a Viao, Samsung, or even HP.
I've tried the red clitoris and I can see how it's helpful, and I'd admit I am a fan of non-chiclet keyboards. I guess I can see that they're sturdy and stable, too. But choosing a Thinkpad over anything else seems like preference, as in "well I like ugly laptops" rather than something based in reason, like they objectively have better specs.
thoughts on the yoga thinkpad series?
>>52618750
Option A, I pretty much did that,
>old busted x61
>bought a x200s with cracked screen
>bought an affs panel
>sold x61 that almost covered the cost of the x200s
X200s is comfy is fuck and i love it.
>>52618819
Welcome to ThinkCucks' reasoning behind buying a shit tier laptop
x220 & Chimay in Amsterdam! I never leave home without it.
>>52618871
Yup. Where did you get the AFFS? Theyre being sold on ebay for about 70$ + 30$ shipping. Then I cheched the chink ebay taobao and you can get one for about 20$
>>52618813
Holy shit, is that real?
>>52618819
Ok, let me autism this out for you: if you don't get why you should get one, then you should not get one. The thing with those ones is, they're pretty much more durable than anything else while providing some pro-features that others don't: docking stations, safe closing mechanisms, super-duper giant ass batteries (x220 with slice+9cell works 17 hours straight), and god almighty, those ports: x220 can handle an msata ssd, a regular 2,5 sata hdd, some 3g on express card or a god damn EGPU on that.
>>52618984
Ayep.
>>52618956
Searched "HV121WX4" on ebay and got a bunch of results for gateway tablet screen for like ~$30. Spent like an 1 hour carefully taking it apart.
Repostan for opinions
>>>52616967
Unless someone thinks I should go jewish with the T400 I'm going to order the T420 tomorrow.
>>52618750
Another x200s would hold you over for another year or two. Upgrade the ram though. In a year, the x220 will be dirt cheap and still very usable. Upgrade then. They're already around 120 burgers, so it just depends on your budget.
>>52619075
Go full 420, if possible. I've got so much autism that I checked the benchmarks for pretty much any new thinpad aviable, and anything besides t420 is not worth your fucks given. t430 and newer got CPUs on pretty much the same level, and they go to shit with those brown casings. t400 is also a bit too slow nowadays, so anon, you're blessed by all the fucks I give to get t420.
>>52619008
The negative reviews I read said they have short battery life and are missing a few ports (like HDMI).
As for other stuff like i7 core that's in no way exclusive to the ThinkPad. Might as well get something else with that.
This just seems like one of those threads where everyone's bragging about their dumbfuck mac.
I am interested in playing around with Linux though, how much better is the "support" from a ThinkPad?
I might pick up a cheap or old one. But the $1000 ones, those I don't understand I guess.
>>52619154
>I've got so much autism that I checked the benchmarks for pretty much any new thinpad aviable
I'm gonna trust your word because if I had more free time I would do exactly the same.
working on getting thinkfan configured on my x220 with linux mint. so far i have it installed and runnig at start up but It is not enabled. can anyone help me out?
>5. Enable fan control with these two >commands:
>echo "options thinkpad_acpi fan_control=1" > >/etc/modprobe.d/thinkfan.conf
>modprobe thinkpad_acpi
not sure what that means
using http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/ubuntu/
This is the best ThinkPad ever. Prove me wrong:
>i7-3520m @ 3.4GHz
>possibility of upgrading it to i7-3632qm after resoldering (can be done for about $50)
>16GB 2133MHz RAM
>mSATA SSDs up to 1TB
>2,5" bay for 2TB HDDs/SSDs
>IPS low power screen
>eGPU OOB posibility
>illuminated keyboard + thinklight
>possibility of replacing the keyboard with the x220 one
>battery life up to 12 hours on 9cell battery, 25 hours on 9 cell + ultradock one
>completely quiet, the fan rarely turns itself on
is that price fair:
Lenovo ThinkPad X220 Corei5 2,5GHz 4Gb 320GB Windows7 Webcam UMTS
- i don't need windows 7
price is 250 €
>>52619174
The HDMI is lacking on older machines, that's because the pro-pc users need more VGA for powerpoint presentations, and displayports for goddamn good monitors. HDMI is for the media consuming pleb, but hey, if you need it-there's a passthorugh for that. And yes, Thinkpads are better with linux, as every autistic fuck out there (like me here) uses one while not eating out his feet like Richard Stallman. And BTW, those $1000 thinkpads aren't worth getting, everything newer beyond t420 and x220 is a fuckin waste of money, as they don't have faster internal cpus.
>>52619228
>Keyboard for newfags
Well, at least you tried.
>>52619228
Anything that runs at 1366x768 is not the best ever.
Does every T420 have the same screen resolution?
>>52619377
Nah. T420 had a better option than 1366x768, google that or duckduckautismgo.
>>52619308
>keyboard can be replaced
>>52619332
>says a gayming faggot
>>52619332
why not?
>>52619434
>keyboard can be replaced
Last time I've checked it didn't work properly. What did change, anon-senpai?
>>52619308
first of all, he said the keyboard was exchangable.
second of all, fuck off. the 6 row layout omits the keys you never use while retaining the ones you do in more meaningful positions. SysRq is where the useless fucking menu key used to be and pageup/down are where the SCROLLING KEYS (!) used to be, for gods sake, what's not to like?
>>52619493
to reiterate: i do, however, agree that the old keys had slightly better tactile response. still outweighed by better layout+backlight.
>>52619493
I'll tell you what. The print screen. And if you think the menu key was useless, then well, sorry pleb, I envy you're swedish minimalism on keyboard usage.
>>52619228
is the cpu resoldering a thing? that would be amazing.
>>52619457
Says a work faggot, who likes to get work done. That is way too fucking cramped.
>>52619519
>agree that the old keys had slightly better tactile response
After the T61 the quality of keyboards certainly declined, but the T440p keyboard is as solid as the one in the T6x series.
>>52619542
There are better ways to kill yourself than putting a quadcore CPU in a 12" laptop, anon.
>>52619531
print screen == SysRq. it's where the menu key used to be.
if you're telling you are seriously making constant use of context menus, i recommend you look into learning a few keyboard shortcuts instead.
(disclaimer: i have no idea how useful that key might be in windows.)
>>52619493
>pageup/down are where the SCROLLING KEYS (!) used to be
Scrolling keys? You mean the back and forward keys? I was pleasantly surprised how neat they are and use them all the time.
>>52619531
>swedish minimalism
What.
>>52619608
b-but i like quadcore cpus... parallelism is one of the things i'm heavily into software wise, so it's a bit of a fetish.
>>52619519
I'll take Thinklight over a backlit keyboard any day. They'll never not look gaudy to me, and the backlight is only useful for seeing the keys. The Thinklight on my X220 is so bright that it illuminates the area around the laptop in addition to the keyboard.
>>52619625
i have other keys for back and forth and i use the pgup/down all the fucking time scrolling through terminals.
>>52619616
I gotta do a shitload of work on everyday on windows, cause Unity3D got no worthwhile support on Linux, and I gotta use that. There's a literally shitload of cases where you're stuck with context menus and cannot be the Stevie Wonder of keyboard shortcuts.
>>52619598
wanted to get t440 of any kind, but that touchpad is scaring the pants out of me.
>>52619703
my x230 has both backlit keys and thinklight, so moot point.
>>52619723
>>52619703
And I'd love to have more options than that, a sidelight would be awesome, otherwise I cannot see were I'd put that sock/banana for one of those nights.
>>52619709
as i said, if that is the case, so be it. i'm just a user on windows and i find the lack of functionality of many tools frustrating - if that were my own time and not the companies, i would be really pissed off.
(company has me working some smaller tasks on windows, most on unixoid)
>>52619704
>and i use the pgup/down all the fucking time scrolling through terminals
Ditto. I do enjoy having both.
>>52619749
what.
>>52619780
i enjoy having pgupdown closer by though :)
okay, enough of this bs, i've selected enough pictures with goddamn ice cream for a day
> lost a bid on the x220 tablet i7 version for 200$
FUCKKKKK YOUUUUUUUUUUU
It had everything and only a little dent. I am pissed anons , feels bad man, very bad
>>52619870
>can't bid like a pro
It's your own fault.
>>52619870
Well, feel good about that. The hinge is actually the shittiest thing out there.
>>52619608
>implying 35W TDP CPU is hotter than 35W TDP CPU
>>52619903
I waited at 4 seconds and then while at $196.86 some faggot put straight up $200!
>>52619908
I wanted it for one note , drawing !
I'm seeing no OS on one of the listings for a thinkpad, can I ahem... Get the windows OS for free and legit somehow.
gib memepad backgrounds pls
>>52619953
Then get a fuckin wacom m8, a good one that doesn't obfuscate the screen while drawing. Somehow I found it better to note all my shit on calculus lessons back on freshman.
>>52619975
There will be a key for one on the laptoo. Download the installer ISO for whichever version you need and use the provided key.
Looking at most thinkpads that are 1080p and that can support streaming, but mostly non-intensive school work
Is there anything I should be worried about in the later models of thinkpads? I remember there being quite an uproar a few years ago about it.
Do you guys look for anything specific while shopping for your used thinkpad?
>>52618750
Thirding the other anons to keep the ol girl running. Upgrade later when you actually need it for performance reasons. Don't get your hopes up for resale value.
>T60
>T500 fan
>1600x1200 screen
>post-08/08 nvidia T61 motherboard and T9300 already purchased
I'm so close to having the ultimate memepad.
>>52620160
Yup. Good batteries. Those from lenovo, not the 3rd party replacement crap.
>>52620160
Pictures of the actual unit you're bidding on, and a fair price.
So Debian decided to not support the graphics card for the T23 I use as a backup of the backup laptop.
Any distro worth trying on such a device, or shall I head back to previous Debian versions?
>>52619709
>but that touchpad is scaring the pants out of me.
Just order a T450 pad and put that in there. Takes maybe half an hour to replace. There are tutorials on youtube.
Gonna replace the panel on my T450s.
Does anyone know if the bezel on this model is the one with latches that snaps in and out, or if it's the icky adhesive one that was on the T440?
whats the best ultrabook thinkpad?
looking for a laptop for coding that i can lug around campus without breaking my back.
How feasible is installing a nvidia gpu motherboard thing into my t420?
>>52620160
BIOS options picture so you know it's not locked
>>52620374
Does oldstable (Wheezy) not even support it? I don't think they've technically stopped releasing security updates for it yet, but it'll happen in a few months.
>>52620539
Doable, but you need to order the appropriate cooler too, as your integrated model obviously won't have a contact for the GPU.
>be x201 locked BIOS fag
>package gets stolen by nigger in Chicago
Why is my life such shot? I live in NY God damn it. "Out for Delievery" my ass.
>>52620539
>disassemble per HMM
>remove old board, install new board
>reassemble
>repaste CPU/GPU and install nvidia model heatsink
Not hard, just time consuming. One of those things that will take you 3 hours to do the first time, but you could do a second one in 1/4 the time. If you do it, don't torque the shit out of the screws.
I wouldn't bother from a cost/benefit standpoint though unless you're just really marginal on graphics performance and don't mind the heat/shorter batt life.
>>52620615
Well you can easily get your money back if it gets stolen in post, but just wait a tad longer, maybe it's late.
Can I take the screen from a t410i and put it in a standard t410?
>>52620615
It's the US Postal Service. They're late every once in a while. Granted, it's been happening less ever since they went from dead trees to hyper-excited electrons buzzing around silicon wafers, but when they're late, they're fucking late
>Fucking Moto /g/ taking a whole extra week from estimated delivery date cause they forgot the fucking package at the facilities on 3 occasions.
>>52620598
>>52620635
I see. Would you say the graphics performance is significantly different from the Intel integrated?
Anyone here own thinkpad yoga?
>>52620740
I would personally say it's only better for gayman. And it's marginal.
It's about equal to an nvidia 425M specs wise. 425M was still better
Not that anon, just have a T420 with the dGPU
Ok, so I have a weird issue with my T420's touchpad. Occasionally it craps out. For a while I would just have to wait until it unlocked to move again, but I noticed that somethings registering a control input that I have to press to unlock the mouse. Any idea what the fuck is happening? If I use a regular mouse I do not have these issues.
>>52620813
Driver issues, maybe? That certainly sounds weird as fuck
>>52618819
Did you even read the OP?
>>They’re really cheap when you buy a used one.
>>Keyboards feel excellent while typing (no, not the old ones).
>>Great durability thanks to the inclusion of rollcages and use of glass fiber reinforced plastic for the chassis. The keyboard is splash proof and spilled liquids will drain out.
>>Utilitarian design - e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models.
>>Docking solutions that easily turns your laptop into a desktop.
>>Easy to repair, upgrade and maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for almost every model. Spare parts are easy and cheap to obtain.
>>The best trackpoint (that red thing on the middle of the keyboard). Great for those who type a lot or hate swiping their fingers all over a touchpad.
>>Excellent GNU/Linux & *BSD support.
>>52620737
I've always been a USPS shill because priority shipping is so fast. But apparent the Chicago metro hub is notorious. Then I went on their facebook page that has 1/5 stars and see countless pics of dindus at work. I am not even a pol fag but I can't stand niggers.
>>52620813
Use the clit you g*dd*mn p*ssy
>>52620839
>using clit
>suddenly feel the urge to masturbate in the middle of the library
No, sorry.
>>52620837
I'd insta-fire that nigress for using Facebook at work. No fucking way is that OK. If you're "working hard" you're not on social media
>I'm a security guard, so don't have to bust dick
Anyways, your package is probably flipping end over end on a conveyor belt somewhere and the filthy coons are ignoring it cause "it ain't my job"
>>52620740
It's not great, but it is a whole lot better than HD 3000. It's about on par with HD 4000 in my experience, a little better or worse in a few aspects.
>>52620887
>I'd insta-fire that nigress for using Facebook at work.
I mean fuck bitches but I highly doubt you never take momentary breaks on your phone or computer. Hell, most people used to use the shitter for a break.
>>52620887
JUST
>>52620837
UPS has always been the best to me, never had any problems and usually got shit from them earlier than expected. USPS is okay, like you said their priority shipping is great but their standard can be slow sometimes. Fedex went full fucking retard with my T420, leaving it one state away for like a week and once they finally moved it, they go and send it to another bordering state. Somehow it ended up in the hands of USPS instead and they actually delivered it. Fuck Fedex, never again.
>>52620929
Here's my thing about it
If you're using Facebook at work while sitting at the front desk as it appears to be in the picture, you're looking bad in front of customers
If you go to the back, like a shitter or a break room, or hell just on the other side of a door, I couldn't give a fuck
But if there is a package flipping end over end on a conveyor belt and my branch has a 1/5, heads gonna roll
>>52620544
Wheezy supports it, that would be my last resort if I don't install something else on it, with the benefit of it not having systemd.
Should I not buy used from Amazon?
>>52621191
There's no point to pay the Amazon Premium when eBay is so much cheaper.
>>52621020
I feel you, but considering my experiences, a lot of people would lose their jobs this day and age.
>>52620813
Dude, you should disable the Touchpad and use clitmouse exclusively...
what kind of heretic are you?
>>52621007
Truth. FedEx a shit.
USPS > UPS > horse and buggy > FedEx
>>52621035
Suck, man. Will it just not support an X environment, or could you go commandline/ncurses only? I grant it'd be less useful that way.
This theme was really nice when I only had 1024x768 and had to make every pixel count, but now it's comically small. Time to find something new, I guess.
>>52621399
Why change themes? Can't you just CTRL-+ or CTRL-- to change the window magnification?
Or is that bad from a font clarity standpoint?
>>52621446
Nah, web pages are totally readable. It's the OS fonts that are way too small now. And this theme has jack shit for scaling options, there's one setting that's slightly bigger but it somehow causes text to get cut off in windows. #windowsxpproblems
>>52620835
No shit, see the previous thread. I said those aren't enough to convince me, they don't show that the specs are good.
Anyone elses x220 get stupidly hot when its on a docking station?
>>52621331
It forces a max resolution that is lower than the native resolution, wasting around half the screen space.
The various workarounds with X aren't working as it also uses that resolution in the CLI.
However a downgrade to Wheezy will fix it, just amazing that I'll ever downgrade something in GNU/Linux wonderland, I thought that'd be something left for involuntary Windows 10 users.
>>52622052
If you aren't convinced, then feel free to leave and go about your business as usual. Nobody here will complain about having less bidding competition.
>>52622476
Here's a link to the exact problem by another owner of a T23:
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=121763
The solution seems to abandon anything after Wheezy, maybe not the worst with the current developments.
>>52622089
while on dock: 50C idle, 60C streaming youtube, 85C load, 24C ambient
I'm thinking of purchasing either a t420 or a t61p to do simple work (word processing) and watch videos. I already have a desktop, but I'd like a laptop to do such things in the comfort of my bed (I have scoliosis and hate having to sit for so long). The reason I am going Thinkpad is because /tpg/ sold me on the keyboard, durability, modifiability and overall practical design.
The t61p has a nicer resolution and has cheaper listings on ebay, but it seems the screen is dimmer (I imagine I can just purchase a new CCFL).
If I do end up going for the t420, I will probably end up replacing the screen with a 1080p version.
So which should I get? Is there a different model more suited to me?
T 4 2 0 B O Y S
Q U A D S Q U A D
W E O U T H E R E
>>52622848
>utorrent
>chrome
>>52622864
>the "not /g/ approved" meme
>le botnet maymay
>>52619934
quadcores are 45 watt retard
>>52622848
does your T420quad have coil whine?
as mine when ever turbo is enabled it makes quite a racket.
>>52622886
utorrent does actually contain malware.
>>52619542
just call up my homie Ahmed.
he's a cpu soldering pro
>>52622905
Not that I've noticed. It runs near silent for shitposting etc, fan gets pretty loud when I'm playing CSGO
>>52622913
2.2.1 senpai, aint skurred
>>52622920
fair enough, as it's really quiet with turbo off, but i think it could be due to the turbo voltage, but still the 2630 is enough without it.
>>52619228
>i7-3520m @ 3.4GHz
until it starts running too hot and has to clock down to 2.9ghz
>possibility of upgrading it to i7-3632qm after resoldering (can be done for about $50)
you aren't getting a quadcore for that cheap, and the tools for the bga rework would cost at minimum hundreds of dollars.
plus it would absolutely destroy the life of that chip and anything around it.
>IPS low power screen
>IPS
>low power
maybe compared to oled
>possibility of replacing the keyboard with the x220 one
great now it's mushy, has the same fuck tarded layout because of the bios, and you lost your backlit keys
>battery life up to 12 hours on 9cell battery, 25 hours on 9 cell + ultradock one
maybe if it's just sitting there, but my x220 could never get above 6 hours of battery life actually using the thing with a 9 cell. And I doubt ivy bridge would double my performance
>>52623051
Not him, but I have a x230 wih a 9-cell that has 85% of the original capacity and it gives me 9h on power saving mode under windows.
Maybe 7h under linux with the thinkpad battery manager.
>>52622089
Idles around 45C, load 55C, heavy load 85C. Probably going to replace thermal paste and clean out any dust sometime next month.
X220 i7 2.8GHz for €420. Is that a good deal?
>>52623256
It's not, but you're in Europe so you kind of have to take what you can get.
>>52623256
Absolutely NO.
Wait for a better deal.
There are x220 goig for 200€ with those specs if you wait for a while.
I've seen x220t selling for 180€, x230 for 250€
>>52623309
What website was this?
>>52623335
Ebay.
>>52620887
>no facebook at work
lol what kind of sweatshop do you work in senpai
>>52623348
I've got an i5 2450m. These sell cheap. The i7 2.8 is considerably more expensive in my experience.
>>52620837
Chicago USPS is shit, everytime one of my packages go through there they fuck something up. They send it to the wrong facility, wrong truck, or it just fucking sits there for a day because why the fuck not.
>>52623354
I'm a security guard. I can do whatever the fuck I want as long as I write a half decent report
Oh, and they are starting to put cell phones with real time GPS tracking where I work. They give you the phone. You can only stay still for 10 minutes max. So I think I walk around 2-3 miles per day on shift.
The whole time, I shitpost on /g/ and listen to music.
On the plus side, I don't hand write reports anymore. I just take pics with the phone and email them with descriptions of the photos as a "report" whenever I find something wrong
And I just hate Facebook. With a passion. Shit's worse than Win10
>>52622929
Are u a irl nigger?
>>52623396
>>52623309
>>52623256
this is true, the i7 models are a whole lot more expensive for more heat, less battery, and a tad bit of performance improvement, id recommend going for the based i5m model
>>52623458
just memeing and downloading subtitled anime friend
I am coming home to my first thinkpad tomorrow folks
T420 1600x900 1gb Nividia 4gb ram fresh new ssd I have.
I hope I like it!!!
Now that I have Xubuntu install, any programs I should get installing on here? Good music/media and torrent program?
Still need to find a wallpaper that I might like, and some other things.
>>52623529
I liked transmission when I used linux. worked perfectly.
>>52623529
moc
qbittorrent
>>52622476
>>52622523
Debian not supporting old shit is haraam as fuck. Sorry for your lots.
>>52623529
python, youtube-dl, ranger(optional), ffmpeg, mpv
>>52623529
WTF is that? Netbeans and Notepad++? Seriously, what you are doing with your life?
>>52623528
i'm jealous of that nvidia board senpai
just ordered the Intel Ultimate N dual band wifi chip for m'dankpad tho, should be here wednesday. probably the last upgrade the old girl gets before i just start saving for a T440
>>52623575
>>52623614
>>52623772
Thanks anons, I'll look into them all!
Pretty picture there too. Hope you don't mind me taking it. :^)
>>52623888
School.
>>52623910
all good. like I said it's my first. sort of budget. everything i own is in storage and i have a daughter so i got tired of not having shit. I hope it plays diablo 3 well. but yeah i went out of my way to find higher resolution and nvidia.
But cool. I hope the wifi is good on them. Sort of worried about any sort of driver issues. will be running windows not linux. anything i should do in advance with a flash drive?
>>52623942
it's all yours my friend :^)
More: http://www.simonstalenhag.se/
>>52623998
these things run pretty great with Windows 7, just do a factory reset when it shows up and you should be good to go. i'm only upgrading the wlan because there's dual band wifi available at school and 2.4ghz is usually pretty clogged up
not sure what diablo 3 requires to run, but i play CSGO on this thing daily on lower settings, and it doesn't have the nvidia card
>>52624014
Huh, some interesting gorey stuff here. Maybe I can find something else I like. Thanks anon.
What do you boys recommend a 3rd gen thinkpad x for $715 us or a Dell XPS 13 for $899
>>52624482
post specs you dickfairy
Where do I buy a used thinkpad? I read the list at
http://ktgee.net/post/49423737148/thinkpad-guide
but I can't figure out where to buy
i'm looking for a thinkpad that has an optical drive bay so i can run the OS on an SSD and put a regular HDD in place of the optical drive for storage.
i have a T420 which has been perfect for years, but it's been through lots of wear and tear so i'm looking at newer models.
i was about to buy the t450s, but there's no optical drive! there's this mini-hdd option or something.
anyone have any suggestions/recommendations?
>>52625482
you could get a T430S or something
cheap, nicer screen, a little lighter
>>52625482
I just bought a T420. I am going home to it tomorrow. has a bit higher specs than the normal with 1gb nvdiaia. my first thinkpad. I am excited!!
Picked up a W500 for AU$150. (About US$105) Did I do good? Guy I bought it off said it was his brother's that he used while working at IBM. Pretty neat, I guess.
>>52625482
just realized t540p has an optical drive. thoughts on this model?
>>52625838
And the specs
>Those temps
I'll be giving it clean out later today
I got my T420 today. I took the keyboard out to replace the DIMM under it (2x4GB RAM from my old laptop).
After putting the keyboard back and tightening the screw on the back, the bottom right of the keyboard is pretty loose. If I press down on the arrow cluster and let go, the whole bottom, right corner bounces back up.
What did I screw up?
>>52625362
ebay, amazon, craigslist, etc.
>>52626359
Nobody has any keyboard advice?
I didn't notice any movement in the keyboard before removing it, but I didn't specifically push on the arrow cluster. I assume it's supposed to be solid, yes?
>>52626756
It is. There are little nubs on the bottom of the keyboard that fit down under the palmrest.
You probably didn't get the nub in that corner fitted correctly underneath it. Undo the screws for the keyboard and try again. Try slipping it in from the bottom first.
Hey guys, I'm hoping someone can offer some insight here. My X201's wireless is really slow--around 9 Mb/s even when right next to my access point. I think it may be a hardware issue. Which wireless cards are compatible with the X201? I'm looking to buy possibly an AC card, but just another 802.11n would work as well.
My X201's fan is so loud when watching a video or playing a game(old shit like Doom). I wonder if it needs new compound or if it's just a hot laptop,
is a nvidia graphics card necessary for someone who doesn't game?
want to get this but it's only integrated
>http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA8A13DK0494&cm_re=thinkpad_t430-_-9SIA8A13DK0494-_-Product
Why is it so hard to find X220s with the flexview display? I really want one, but I have no clue where to find them. EBay has two, and they look like shit.
>>52618698
>tfw my t450s with jewbuntu 15.10 overheats while watching flash videos
How do I prevent this, anons? Do I need to install windoze 7?
>>52620706
Just want to repeat this question:
>Can I take the screen from a t410i and put it in a standard t410?
they're the same board shipped with lower specs right?
>>52618819
In my opinion, the reason I got one was because it was the most bang per buck specs wise.
>>52618698
Hi /g/:
I've got an ancient T40, and have been having issues getting Linux on to it. What distro would you recommend? Everything seems to have something wrong with it
Thanks
>>52627307
Make sure the antennas are snapped in.
Make sure your wireless card isn't in some kind of powersave mode on battery or just in general.
Try changing your router to a different channel, might be interference if other wifi devices have the same problem.
>>52627561
What distros have you already tried and what was wrong with them?
which should i get?
t420
i7 2640M (2.8 Ghz)
8GB DDR3 (max)
Intel HD Graphics 3000
for $395 or
t430
i5 2.6 Ghz
6GB DDR3
Intel HD Graphics 4000
for $449?
>>52627615
I'd get a T420 w/ i5 for $150ish, then upgrade it to an i7 2720QM.
Anybody with an x230 care to share their shitposting-only CPU temp? Trying to decide whether or not I should go through the trouble of repasting. I sit right around 50C.
>>52627685
Also I suck dicks and forgot to mention this is the i7-3520M.
Is there any difference between 14' 1366x728 and 1600x900 screen for t420 (except resolution)? I'm asking about quality experience, senpai
Thoughts? It's missing the stylus , and the OS. and a little rubber nub at the right side.
>>52627582
Never mind one worked
>>52627781
Also should ask since I'm new to thinkpads, can the x220T be upgraded later? What can be uprgraded?
Ya know, unless it's from IBM I do not understand how anyone would willingly use a ThinkPad. From the cert fiasco to the current fw exploits to the seemingly non-stop flow of vulnerabilities that are released on a weekly basis on these machines, it's one of the more non-sensical "groups" here.
If you left me in a room with an x series, I would be able to own it in more ways than any other laptop being sold today, with any OS installed, BIOS pw or not.
It's literally Swiss cheese.
>>52627844
CPU is soldered. You're already guaranteed an IPS panel, so nothing to do there.
RAM (it'll take 16GB)
SSD of your choosing
expresscard USB3
Oleh BIOS if you're brave and then maybe a 802.11AC card for better wifi
fresh keyboard replacement if yours is well worn
new battery and/or slice battery if you don't have faggot noodle arms
flame paint job and bedazzling
>>52627736
The pixel difference is enough to spend 50 dollars and upgrade.
is there any real difference between integrated and dedicated gpu's if they have the same max. resolution?
So I doubt this qualifies as a business laptop, but I intend to treat it as one.
I picked up a 2011 era Asus ROG laptop (G73JH) from a pawn shop for $150. Comes with a Radeon 5870, a desktop class i7, and 6 gig of memory. (Don't ask.)
Anyways, it doesn't look too tarted up like gaming laptops tend to. About the only thing questionable is a small blue light under the screen hinge, but the effect is muted and tasteful.
(Sorta)portable Linux workstation? Did I do okay?
>>52628127
>$150
yes, more than
So my x220t came with 6gbs of ram. One is Samsung, the other is some chingchong brand. Is there any reason I should try for 16gb? Or will going to 8gb be enough?
I can't actually see a reason to go so high on this laptop unless it's to make a ram disk.
>>52628127
If that's what I think it is, that's not a bad deal.
anyone use a USB3 --> HDMI/DVI converter? worth bothering with? issues?
>>52618698
would this be a good deal if I could talk him down to 100?
there aren't any pics so I'd probably have him send me a few pics before I buy it
I just want it as a secondary laptop in case I break my main one again.
using this 2006 macbook pro as a backup is painful
>>52618750
get an x220
>>52628938
For a benjamin you can get a t510 on ebay
>>52627220
Well, I removed and re-fit the keyboard several times, but the arrow cluster area still flexed. I ended up cutting a bit of cardboard and putting it under there. Now it's as solid as the left side of the keyboard.
Anyone here install a msata SSD on their t420? Any regrets?
>>52628912
If you run Windows VMs then the more memory the better.
If you're running Linux only, 8GB is probably way more than enough.
Personally, I bumped my desktop to 32GB because I was running out of RAM while running a couple of VMs.
>>52629141
I've been looking into this too.
AFAIK, mSATA is just SATA run over the PCIe bus. I don't think there's even a performance improvement. Also, I think manufacturers do a lot of dicking around with specific pin numbers, leading to incompatibilities.
m.2, which is the successor to mSATA, isn't just SATA, and should be faster.
I'm not certain about these claims, that's just how I understand it.
>>52628938
Why would you want a C2D computer in 2016?
>>52629169
all i need it for is internet browsing since its a backup laptop
and its better than my current laptop's core duo
>>52619231
A or B stock?
I got a B one for 165€
>>52629179
Web pages are crazy now. C2D would be shitty.
>>52629239
my core duo is doing just fine browsing 4chan and other similarly light pages
I just want firefox to not lag horribly.
plus that t500 is a last gen ddr3 one so its not that weak
>>52629148
Nah, I don't really do VMs. I have both Windows 7 and Linux on mine, but doubt I needed more than 8gb. I may not even need anymore than the 6gb.
I asked a seller on eBay if the x220 panel is an ips but he doesn't know how to check it, neither do I. Halp me
>>52629260
Okay, I have no idea why you're so in love with the C2D.
I just bought a T420 i5 for $150 shipped. I can't imagine paying $50 less for a POS C2D.
>>52629310
odds are thats what ill try to do if i can get more money
that way if i break my laptop again i can just throw my 16 gigs of ram in there and continue to browse the internet like nothing happened
People here are saying the i7 version of the x220 is shit compared to i5. Is that true? How so?
>>52625482
>i'm looking for a thinkpad that has an optical drive bay so i can run the OS on an SSD and put a regular HDD in place of the optical drive for storage.
>i was about to buy the t450s, but there's no optical drive! there's this mini-hdd option or something.
>>52625904
The T450s works essentially the same way that you're asking for. You can just put a 128 GB SSD in the M.2 (2242) slot, and then pop a 500 gig HDD in the 2.5 inch bay.
This kind of functionality is why I paid $200 more for a T450s over an X1 Carbon.
>>52628925
I have a displayLink usb2.0 adapter to DVI-D/A. It's actually worth it for casual dicking around, there's something wrong with some colors on it, but otherwise it's a good piece of shit (it's an i-tec USB2HDtrio).
![WWE.RAW.2016.01.25.HDTV.x264-Ebi.mp4_snapshot_01.17.43_[2016.01.26_09.42.54].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AxstfEl.jpg "WWE.RAW.2016.01.25.HDTV.x264-Ebi.mp4_snapshot_01.17.43_[2016.01.26_09.42.54].jpg")
I don't know if I'm right but I think big show was using a thinkpad last night.
>We wrastlin now
>>52629539
that's almost definitely a thinkpad
I don't know of any other laptop that supports an extended battery, has a yellow port on the back like that, and has a air vent
I bet its a t400/500
>>52629583
He also went on to break it when the rock taunted him.
So it was a disposable laptop to them.
>>52629599
yeah i'd consider a t400 pretty disposable
at least they picked a laptop that would actually take some strength to destroy.
>>52619204
you type those commands into a terminal, not to sound rude or anything but are you new to linux?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X220
obviously the arch part doesnt apply to you, but it is genuinely the best wiki for information ever
>>52627902
explain.
what vulnerabilities do thinkpads have in specific?
>>52629434
Due to Intel related irregularities, the i7 (also of same TDP) drinks considerably more power than the i5. You'd lose a good 2 hours or so. Oh and the machine can behave erratically depending on whether the 65W (throttling) or 90W (misbehaving trackpad) brick is attached. Though I think BIOS updates fixed that
On the upside I guess, it has USB 3.0
>>52629873
>If you left me in a room with an x series, I would be able to own it
No shit. Since when has anything ever been safe when you have physical access? I'm using a computer, not a one-time pad.
>in more ways than any other laptop being sold today, with any OS installed, BIOS pw or not.
Irrelevant. All it takes is one privilege escalation exploit. The quantity doesn't matter once it's vulnerable at all. I bet you think you're some kind of elite hacker because you think if someone hands you physical access you can break into a device? That's pretty trivial. A child could do it. Why don't you show me even one device where this isn't the case?
There's a reason server rooms are kept locked and data centers have very tight security. There's really not any way to stop someone who has physical access. It doesn't make the laptop bad, it makes you stupid for pretending this isn't the case for ANY computer. But don't mind me, troll away.
>>52629453
>T450s
what do yo think about the yoga 14?
Can eGPU be used with a T420 or does it require the wider Expresscard slot on the X series?
>>52623910
Still dont understand why nvidia is so better on t420 then intel. I heard it has some big problem on the first models
I have this old Acer laptop I want to install linux to but for some reason the thing refuses to boot from a linux boot disk. I have tried a DVD and a flash drive and both have failed. It will, however, boot form any windows CD I put in to it. Both the disk and flash drive work in my PC, just not on the laptop.
Its releated because its my moms old laptop that was replaced with the thinkpad I bought her.
>>52618698
I'm trying to output through a VGA to HDMI adaptor from my T61p to a 32" HDTV. Problem is xrandr isn't working as expected, any ideas on how to fix this?$ sudo xrandr --newmode "1920x1080" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist)
Major opcode of failed request: 140 (RANDR)
Minor opcode of failed request: 16 (RRCreateMode)
Serial number of failed request: 29
Current serial number in output stream: 29
>>52632727
can your machine handle a 173MHz pixel clock?
try this;"1920x1080" 130.80 1920 1928 1992 2000 1080 1083 1086 1090 -Hsync +Vsync
(60.00Hz)
>>52633144
actually here, have my whole 10-monitor.conf, you might like the additional refresh ratesSection "Monitor"
Identifier "HDMI-0"
Modeline "1920x1080" 106.82 1920 1928 1952 1960 1080 1083 1087 1090 -HSync +VSync # 50Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 132.48 1920 1928 2016 2024 1080 1083 1089 1092 -Hsync +Vsync # 60/1.001Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 130.80 1920 1928 1992 2000 1080 1083 1086 1090 -Hsync +Vsync # 60Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 164.16 1920 1928 1968 1976 1080 1083 1152 1155 -HSync +VSync # 72/1.001Hz
Modeline "1920x1080" 156.96 1920 1928 1992 2000 1080 1083 1087 1090 -HSync +VSync # 72Hz
Option "PreferredMode" "1920x1080"
EndSection
>>52632727
Surely you shouldn't be using sudo?
Asked on previous thread:
T420
>Core i5 2520M 2,5Ghz
>4GB of DDR3 RAM
>160GB HDD
>Battery holds charge for 3 hours
>6 moths warranty
>Really good condition
>210€
Con
>1366x768
Still worth it?
>>52633467
>Con
>1366x768
That's normal. Welcome to Thinkpads.
You can upgrade the screen yourself for under a hundred bucks.
>>52633493
Oh, I saw someone mentioning the T420 could come with a better display so I thought I was just unlucky. I'll get it then.
Option B was a T400 for 120€ but no one seemed to like that due to Core 2 Duo.
>>52633519
There are 1600*900 T420 laptops out there.
>>52633674
My point is, for that price, is a 1366x768 display something you should expect?
I'm pretty sure I'll be fine with that res on a 14" screen, I'm not the kind of guy who needs a 4K phone screen or shit like that.
>>52633738
Not sure, here in Finland I have seen T420 with dock, NVIDIA GPU and 1600*900 display go for something like 240€.
>>52633493
>Welcome to babby Thinkpads
ftfy
>>52633519
The 1600x900 screen is better but not by much. At least it has a usable resolution going for it, while the 1366x768 one is just garbage all around.
>>52634084
This is literally the cheapest "Buy it now" I could find, and I've been checking autions for a week and all of them go for more than 200€.
>>52634247
Buy it, it's a good price and you can later upgrade something if you don't like it.
>>52634275
http://www.ebay.es/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420-i5-2-5Ghz-4Gb-160Gb-1600x900-LEVA-Win7Pro-4180-A32-B-/301551707248?hash=item4635e1e470:g:0c8AAOSw-W5UuO3F
Found this, 1600x900 but uses a generic picture and gives no info about battery life.
Sorry for the language, tried to found it at ebay.co.uk but no luck.
>>52634321
It says there:
>Al igual que en la imagen. Tecn exacta. Por favor, tomar los datos de la descripción
AKA it's like the one in the image. Should be easy enough to send it back if it's worned out with such a statement from them.
>>52618698
My high school class got Lenovo ThinkPad L420. They're pieces of shit. Can barely process Illustrator at times.
>>52634376
Read the sticky
>>52634355
Fine enough, just asked the seller about battery life time. They also offer 12 months warranty.
If the battery is any good I'll go for this one. I haven't used a laptop in my life but if you guys say 1600x900 is noticeable over 1366x768 I'll go for it.
Could you guys recommend me decent business laptop but slimmer than old thinkpads? What do you think about dell latitude E6430U?
I just lost another bid on ebay godamn it
>>52634624
Thinkpad X1 Carbon
Thinkpad T430s
Thinkpad T440s
Thinkpad T450s
Thinkpad X230
Thinkpad X240
Thinkpad X240
Just got my x220, replaced the hdd with a ssd and installed fedora.
Is there anything that needs to be configured for optimal performance/battery life?
>>52635006
tlp
What is the cheapest Thinkpad I can get that has an HDMI port on it? I want to watch movies and Chinese Cartoons on my TV with it.
Should I buy a x220 for netflix and basic shit? I just have my desktop and an old Nexus 7.
>>52622848
>utorrent
>>52635043
None have hdmi, the t500 has a displayport that exports video and sound. Buy a displayport to hdmi converter dongle on eBay for a few dollars. An alternative would be to buy a chromecast and stream it from your current laptop
>>52635043
None of them have HDMI except maybe the newest models, which are by no means cheap. Just get a Displayport to HDMI adapter.
My x201 in it's final form, yay! Not gonna touch this thing anymore!
>>52634871
Not the 2014 models, unless you feel like replacing that awful clackpad.
>>52635300
I just listed the options dumbass.
>>52635315
He asked for recommendations, and the T/X/X1 2014 models should not be recommended unless he feels like modding them.
Is it possible (as in easy to find parts that fit) to upgrade the X1 Carbon 2015 from that 1080p TN panel to an IPS panel, without exchanging the entire assembly for the touch QHD one?
Do I need to be paranoid if I buy a used thinkpad with that vPro shit? I mean, they can disable your PC remotely and fuck you over, without even being connected to the internet.
How much should a used up x220 i5 tablet be worth. Has no OS nor the stylus.
>>52635911
get an x200 and libreboot it and live the botnet-free life
>>52635913
200
Now you tell me if that's dollars, euros, yen, marks, goats, shekels, etc. depending on how much they sell for wherever you are.
>>52636178
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X220-Tablet-4298-A26-Intel-Core-i5-2520M-2-50-GHz-E0D0-/171865873770?hash=item2804011d6a:g:FcgAAOSw9N1Vrmmu
it's this one, not sure if I should go for it.
>>52636130
>posts on 4chan
>thinks he's living a botnet free life
>>52636130
>Using one of the most frequently visited sites on the internet, a site that is likely loosely monitored by several different agencies at any one time
>Botnet free
>>52636270
>implying i haven't already succumbed to the botnet
i'm just trying to save others from my fate
