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What the fuck happened to the GUI, everywhere?
GNOME3 is a nightmare (lel no taskbar), KDE is a genital wart since KDE4, Android and Apple dumbed down as shit, Windows Phone is a contradiction of functionality, even the Windows 7 taskbar is cancer, requiring you to click more.

We already had everything working perfectly, around 2002-2004. Since then, ebola started.

I will dump the images of previous era GUIs. Please tell me, what was wrong with them, and what is better now.

Contributions are welcome.
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>>47507731

I also remember when gnome was good. KDE too.
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Calling pic related "previous UI" is a strech since the it's still used in yosemite, but it did release in 2001.
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>even the Windows 7 taskbar is cancer

You can disable always-on grouping and make it use small icons with text, you know. You basically get a better xp/vista taskbar, with pinnable programs and rearrangeable icons.

The fact that idiots (90%) use the default settings is a different problem.
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Look at this fucker. Delicious.
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>>47507657
>Please tell me, what was wrong with them
They all looked like total shit
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>>47507985
Yeah, I know. That's what I always set.
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RIP based Netscape 7.
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>>47508047
Do you have a cerebral hemorrhage? They looked awesome, tell me exactly what's wrong.
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>>47507657
Like most things visual, guis follow fashion trends. It wasn't until the turn of the century that advances in hardware allowed guis to be more themable with bitmaps and transparency and shit. Once that happened, everyone has been trying to 1-up each other with more bizarre looking interfaces.
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I think I've successfully riced XFCE to be functional and look nice
I use windows classic on my desktop since it needs every bit of performance
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So based ;__;
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>>47508061
Fear not, sir!
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>>47508166
The thread is not supposed to be about your timesink hobby and terrible taste, mr snowflake.

Now try again.
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>>47508189
I've literally just installed numix and fooled with the colors and fonts a bit
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Not all modern features are bad. Transparency in certain places, windows that subtly fly to the taskbar upon being minimized, the desktop sliding to one side when you switch workspaces, all these things can be very good when done properly because they give the user a very physical understanding of what's going on on his system.

That said, the latest fashion of "less is more" is rather annoying because it's often taken to extremes.
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GEOS FTW!!!
Nothing wrong with it - still Masterrace
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>>47508214
Nobody cares. Keep to the topic.
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>>47508172
That is the best interface of all times I swear.
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>(lel no taskbar)
Silly luddite. There's no need for one if you know how to efficiently use your computer.
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>>47508252
I know, right?
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Perfection
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>>47508322
>that
>perfection

See >>47508169
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I still use Windowmaker on my T42
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>>47508359
Not bad. I still think classic Mac OS was perfection. Good spacing, excellent fonts, and over all consistency. If I ever make a hobby OS and it's mature enough to support a window manager, I'll base its appearance off System 7.
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>>47508359
Don't feed the troll and let him masturbate to ponies in peace.
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>Windows Phone is a contradiction of functionality
What does this even mean?
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>>47507657
> What the fuck happened to the GUI, everywhere?

Mobile happened. UXtards who wanted to make money writing shitty apps and locking their users into walled gardens, or UXtards who wanted to get a job at companies that did that sort of shit, had nowhere to develop/display their 1337 skillz than by "contributing" (aka ruining) open source products like GNOME and Firefox, and even those on the corporate side had to get with the Win8 Metro shit or see their careers lag.
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>>47508386
have you hacked into the mainframe yet
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>>47507731

Old gnome is great, if only their logo wasn't the ugliest fucking piece of shit ever to grace a piece of software.

Nothing says "technology" like feet!
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>>47507657

All these old shit UI threads are litearlly just a bunch of "90's kid xD" wankery. Fuck off!
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>>47508465
But GNOME3 didn't even work with touch until 3.12! It's three fucking years! And now it still doesn't work. Try using fingers in Epiphany or Firefox.
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>>47508322

I was never much for the '90s Mac OS look, 6 and early 7 were breddy good though.

A/UX a best
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>>47508514
Stop leaking liquid shit out of your mouth and contribute to the conversation, with arguments, for or against.
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>>47508542

I just told you why you're a faggot, faggot.
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>>47508542
>Stop leaking liquid shit out of your mouth and contribute to the conversation, with arguments, for or against.
It'd be nice if the OP did that himself in the first place.
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Enlightenment e16 with an Aqua theme. Its workspace management is pretty good.
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>>47508514

There's nothing really '90s kid going in here, old UIs just feel more functional and were designed for a much different, mainly professional audience. They felt like tools and acted like them too.

Nobody's shitting on your preferences here, so fuck off back to whatever threads you like and stop shitting on ours out of a need to attack some irrelevant bogeyman.
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>>47508612

It just looks so inconsistent to me.
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>>47508596
No you didn't. But I don't blame you. If you couldn't see that you provided no arguments you are helplessly dumb and, by definition, unable to participate in conversations.
Don't worry, it's common nowadays. You can have a relatively normal life.
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>>47508386
>Uses Windowmaker, a light and fast WM
>Also uses fish, a shell that is so bloated it has fucking web-based configuration
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>>47508514

why do people on /g/ get so fucking emotional over old things? they either love it with a passion or lash out with rage when someone makes a post about anything other than the latest MacBookâ„¢
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>>47508637
In what way? Have you ever used it?
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THE best UI
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>>47508706

Well, I guess when I look at it again, it's not necessarily inconsistent, it's just kind of crude looking, especially that launcher(?) in the lower right corner.

Not that I would expect you to give a fuck, it just doesn't look right.
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>>47508737
It looked nice, correct. I have doubts about the actual functionality, but I never used it.

Anyway, this is GNOME 1.0. Who would have thought that GNOME would grow to be such a successful desktop? And then again, who would suspect that they'd ruin everythng with 3.0
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>>47508771
nothing about beos was ever functional. it was just some multimedia toy
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>>47508753
It isn't a launcher, it's an iconbox, where minimized apps go. It can be placed anywhere on the screen.

The thing about a good UI isn't how it looks in screenshots, but how beautifully it functions when you're actually trying to get something done with it.
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I think old GUIs waste too much visual space to be called perfect.

One of the things I dislike in many UIs is the title bar on windows. Gnome 3, and Windows programs with ribbons on the title bar are sexy as fuck.

One of the things I dislike the most about new UIs is how they hide every single feature and only keep the most common ones. I think they focus too much on the looks and sacrifice functionality.

I would like to create my own DE one day when I get the skills. It'll be inspired by old UI functionality and customization but with modern looks and without going for the ultra flat & minimal retardness that plagues our world today.
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>>47508612
If you're using an aqua theme, why not use WindowMaker? It's the closest to old OS X you can get on GNU/Linux
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>>47508812
The UI was nice. The system itself wasn't too useful, mainly because it didn't have almost any apps.
But it was good enough for internet + shitposting + music, which were exactly the only things for which I needed a computer at that time
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>>47508465
The person that started the discussion around redesigning the GNOME desktop (Owen Taylor) had worked at RedHat on GTK+ and Pango for over a decade prior to leading the development of GNOME Shell. He still works there. The people who put forward the original ideas that lead to GNOME Shell were majorly involved in GNOME, either the desktop or the foundation, for some time before. The design of Adwaita was also handled primarily by veteran GTK+ developers, and the meetup for that was hosted by Sun Microsystems, which were also involved as long-time contributors to the toolkit.

The shell came from the overwhelmingly majority of the GNOME development community.

>>47508771
>who would suspect that they'd ruin everythng with 3.0
Anyone capable of comparing GNOME 2.24 to XFCE 4.6. There was little reason to continue dedicating man-hours into fixing the mess that had slowly grown from GNOME's iterative design. Not when XFCE was doing _exactly_ the same thing, with less memory use and architectural fragmentation.

Two easy examples being accessibility and ibus support in modern GNOME. What managed to make it into legacy GNOME was technically impressive (purely that they managed to get patches into surrounding GNOME projects so half of it would work), but looked like amateur hour compared to every other desktop at that time.

Another easy example being that humans can actually read and contribute to the Nautilus source code without having to indulge in hallucinogenics so they can ask their spirit animal what the fuck is going on.
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>>47508981
Fixing stuff does not require inventing some completely different-looking turd. I imagine that GNOME became a mess, but I'm sure it could be fixed. If I remember correctly, dconf and Project Ridley came before G3.

Ah, Nautilus. It was initially created by the infamous eazel, later extended by Ximian. Such a heritage must have been a terrible code.
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>>47507657
>>47507985
The original concept of the taskbar in Windows 95 was that each button would be a running application. Basically, it's supposed to be an application switcher, not a window switcher. In this context, it makes sense why it defaults to aggressively grouping windows like this now.

Yes, it can take more clicks, but overall it's a more consistent two-level application button -> windows system.

On the other hand it isn't perfect, mostly because a lot of applications that still have support the old way of doing things anyway because even if it was kind of a mess in Vista and before, it still sort of worked
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>>47508386
Nice. FVWM masterrace though

>>47508865
this
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>>47509147
Not exactly. One button-one application was not the approach of Windows 95 (and the new task switcher). It was actually the 3.11 way, where one icon meant one program, and the program was having multiple "internal windows", so called MDI. There was a small war about this stuff, and 95 taskbar is a "task switcher". Now go figure if another Word document is another task or not.
MDI vs SDI war took ages. Fucking Excel 2010 is still MDI!
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>>47508771

It looks no less functional than anything else that was running on the platform at the time.

I remember my dad giving me a 600E with early GNOME or KDE on it when I was around 9 or 10, wish I could remember.
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>>47508865

This is true, as I said, when I looked at it a second time I really had no idea what the fuck I was on about

Still, looking pretty in screenshots can be a plus too.
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>>47508386
That second tab lol.
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>>47508462
It means people with shit taste design and no concept of ux are trying to justify their stupidity with senseless memes
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>>47509504
Is that a meme? I've never heard anyone use the phrase before. It can't be a meme unless it's repeated over and over.
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>>47509523
The dankest memes are said only once
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>>47509615
That's not how it works. That directly contradicts what a meme is.
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I hope they seriously try to breathe some life back into this software.
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>>47509643
A dank meme is not a simple meme.
Anyway it's not the first time I've seen almost that exact phrase here
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>>47507657
Cinnamon is god tier m8.

>>47507985
Or actually be smart and use 7 taskbar tweaker.
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>>47510005
You don't need anything like that to just get it working like it used to, just if you want to go above and beyond.
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>>47510051
7tt enables customization that should have been there by default imho.
Best of all you can hide the names of some programs, but keep them for others i.e. excel where you want to see the document name, or explorer for folder names.
But of course now pdf viewers and office programs are starting to move to tabs instead of multiple windows, precisely because the windows taskbar is shit by default.
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>>47510131
>But of course now pdf viewers and office programs are starting to move to tabs instead of multiple windows
That is the worst possible thing they could be doing
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>>47507759
This was the best, too bad they fucked KDE up so hard with 4.0

>>47509740
At least it's open source now.
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>>47510889

yeah, it looks like they're working on it a little. It would be cool to see it re-invented as a functional, "modern" (feature-wise) DE

especially customization, even adding applications to the panel is a bitch
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>>47508169
I have to admit, XP was pretty nice for its time. It looks hideous by comparison with more modern designs, but it was definitely the nicest feeling OS GUI I'd used at the time.
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>>47508008
oh man this takes me back.
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>>47510901
>even adding applications to the panel is a bitch
If I remember correctly you have to create a CDE shortcut in the file manager and then drop that in the panel, right?
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>>47511038
>Classic mode

3edgy5me
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Here's something interesting about the design of Windows 95:
http://www.sigchi.org/chi96/proceedings/desbrief/Sullivan/kds_txt.htm
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>>47511050
i just got back from trying out windows 10 and missed the classic theme so much. There is no greater utilitarian UI out there except for >>47509740
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>>47507657
That's why you use MATE m8.
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>>47511041

it's been a while since I've run my Solaris 8 shitbox, but I remember editing a ton of configs just for some basic customization

though I think I remember you could have some basic functionality, since I remember setting up a direct shortcut to xterm without opening a text editor

>>47511050

classic is still pretty good tbh
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>>47511038

>disgusting modern Windows icon set
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I'm running Gnome 3 right now. It works better than win95-style desktops.
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>>47507657
XFCE+awesome is my personal favorite, but LXDE is cool too
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>>47511088

Too bad it looks like shit
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>>47511080
qt, i'd put on some old 2000 era icons if it wasn't such a pain in the ass to do
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>>47511080
>not Athlon/Pentium 3
Anon...
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I actually liked the wheat theme.
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>>47507657
what do you think of my old linux install
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>>47511103
Who cares? Function is more important than form.
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>>47511105

Yeah, ricing Windows is pretty annoying.

If you manage the tray icons it isn't really too bad as far

>>47511120

I originally put it to work benchmarking/testing S423 CPUs and then it become my file archiver because it's too fucking solid, I'd like to replace it with a dual shitburst xeon of some kind in the future but I'll probably find it hard to justify that either

>>47511175

If you don't care about form, then why the fuck are you posting in this thread?
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>>47511080

Still using xp with the classic theme like this anon. Never gonna upgrade. Never. Fuck you upgraded anons.

> Oooooohhhh.....must have whatever shitty new windows release microsoft sells just because they sell it. Fuck vista, 7, 8, and any other new ones.
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>>47511163
The tray icons are too modern
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>>47511207

>If you manage the tray icons it isn't really too bad as far

ayy lmao

"as far as having a nice consistent look goes"

>>47511218

I tried replacing that thing with an XP system and it was truly shit, holy fuck nvidia drivers are awful
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>>47511218
I hope you installed that registry entry to still get windows updates
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>>47511207
I want to shitpost about TWM are superior and that I can maintain the workflow that I've had for more than a decade.
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>>47511250

>tfw I tried unironically running twm once

I-I mean it wasn't terrible...
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>>47511270

zero days and other shit

as long as you have common sense things seem to go fine

don't even notice any background botnets, if there are they're pretty clever, my piece of shit feels like it can outrun my w520 sometimes
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>>47511240

Fuck no. I don't want any of their updates.

> Ooooohhhh noes......but the security updates I won't get.

Big fucking deal. I get along just fine. Why does everyone go into panic mode if they can't get any more updates? My computer runs just fine without their super special security updates.
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>>47508093
Not that anon, but no they look terrible.
Maybe it's cause I prefer awesomeWM though...
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>>47507985
>click taskbar entry
>move mouse cursor one pixel up while clicking by accident
>window closed
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>>47511050
2useable4u
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>>47508386
Holy shit your second tab
You dun goofed shithead
I'm reporting you to FBI
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>>47511038
Wow, anon! I use classic mode too!
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who needs all that mouse bullshit, just the keyboard is what you need ya'll
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>>47507826
Yosemite/Mavericks's finder is actually better than this.
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>>47507657
>What the fuck happened to the GUI, everywhere?

Everybody want touchscreen GUI in a fucking PC. Who need touch GUIs in laptop/desktop that lacks touch?
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dear god
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>>47511699
stay the hell away from my family's farm, we keep finding cum in the horses.
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>>47507657
All you need as proof that there are some good GUIs is awesome window manager.
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I kinda like gnome 3 and kde 5. They're much better and more innovative than the stale windows and os x uis. I just wish they were more performant and less buggy.
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>KDE/Plasma
>genital wart
It's basically exactly the same as we used to have, but with more colors than your shit example because we don't use shit stark white eyesplitting desktops any more.

Just because your desktop looked like shit doesn't mean mine did. KDE/Plasma is the closest you can come while still being good.

Anyone that shits on KDE/Plasma is mentally retarded.
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>>47508612
Not as good as blue steel
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>>47511762
haha, I wouldn't do any real horse, only mylittleponies, nom nom rainbow dash mmm
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>>47511828
probably the best looking one here, besides mine, of course. >>47511719
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>>47511777
trips for truth
awesomeWM is the best
previously I was using KDE and before that XFCE
XFCE removed the option to easily edit the rifght click menu
fuck thyat
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>>47511916
>XFCE removed the option to easily edit the rifght click menu
what are you even talking about? like seriously. the desktop fly-out menu? application-specific context menus? they're all still there, and the fly-out menu is easily modifiable.
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CDE is no more ;_;
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>>47511991
What's so good about CDE?

I've been using wmx and it's working fine.
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Sure, lets go back to CGA mode GUIs on our IBM PC AT with 640kb of RAM!
Or better yet, lets go back to CLI all the time. When your prompt is .>_ You'd need a text book on how to boot the damn computer and get it to do something.
Then we could go back to programs stored on a 360k floppies or casette tapes.

And if that is still to advanced then go back to flipping switches and reading the output on LEDs.

Enjoy the computing dark ages gtards.
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>>47509223
fvwm, fvwm-crystal, or fvwm95? i've wanted to try this out but the variety of packages always confused me.
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in this itt nostalgia googles
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>>47511828
I suddenly got a strange urge to play Metal Slug or Duke Nukem 3D
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>>47512203
I'm using FVWM.
FVWM95 is nearly identical but it's styled more like Win95.
I don't know too much about FVWM-crystal.
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I used to dual boot Windows Vista and Ubuntu on a laptop. I remember Vista being terrible compared to Ubuntu, which was using Gnome 2 back then with Ubuntu colors.

Whenever I logged into Vista, I was unhappy about it, there were tons of things opening at boot and saying that there's an update for Java and Windows and iTunes and virus scanner and firewall and everything. It even made me take a screenshot of the mess that was my desktop straight from the boot. When I logged into Ubuntu, it was so soothing. It was Gnome 2 with a brownish coloring made by Ubuntu and nothing gave me any messages about anything, it was so quiet and clean and simple looking.

Gnome 3 ruined that for me a bit, it wasn't the same anymore and all the quick modifications were disabled and hidden. Now I use XFCE.

I think a good UI today has a dock of some sort, which has large icons for programs. Just like OS X and Ubuntu are doing, and Windows 7. Large icons are faster than text to figure out what the program is and if it's only an icon it doesn't take too much space either. This may not be for everyone but my opinion is that it's the best way to show programs. I don't like the combination of small logos and text on the side.
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>>47512372
The best.

>>47512658
>I think a good UI today has a dock of some sort
Please no. What pisses me off about docks is that there's a blurry distinction between what's open and what's just hanging around waiting to be opened. I was annoyed when Windows 7 came out and quickstart had been replaced with pinning, although quickstart does still exist (make a favorites directory in the right place and add it to the taskbar).
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>>47511991

sourceforge.net/p/cdesktopenv/

There are Linux distros with it pre-installed now, too. But they're still not daily driver-worthy.

>>47512086

It was THE face of UNIX, very utilitarian. Obviously not for everyone but to me it's a "so-shitty-it's-good" kind of thing.

>>47512101

nothing's really changed in GUIs since the mid 1990s, if you were old enough or knew enough about technology to have actually used those old, early forerunners of modern interfaces you would already know this

>Sure, lets go back to CGA mode GUIs on our IBM PC AT with 640kb of RAM! Or better yet, lets go back to CLI all the time. When your prompt is .>_ You'd need a text book on how to boot the damn computer and get it to do something. Then we could go back to programs stored on a 360k floppies or casette tapes.

kek, I love it when consumerist kiddos on /g/ try to look knowledgeable about old shit, I know you're baiting but you really could at least try

>>47512203

straight fvwm is usually what I use

>>47512372

I used that in highschool once, I felt so deep and interesting :^)
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>>47512924
Actually, the face of Unix was Blit, direct predecessor of Plan 9's 8½ and rio window managers.
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>>47512946

I always wondered what windowing system the older '80s Unix systems used, noice.

CDE was still a big standard in the '90s and early '00s, though.
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>>47512984
That's just one of the commercial Unices, though. The True O.G. Thompson+Ritchie+Pike Research Unix was the Blit one. Also managed to escape a lot of the BSD/AT&T brain damage like 1,000,000 signals, Berkeley sockets, and X11.
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>>47512984
>I always wondered what windowing system the older '80s Unix systems used, noice.
Predating the X Window System, there was also CMU Andrew, SunView (successor called OPEN LOOK ran on X), and NeWS.
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>>47513011

>That's just one of the commercial Unices, though.

you what? it ran on a large variety of commercial Unices like Solaris, AIX, HP-UX, etc.

I think the only one of the big UNIX players I can think of that wasn't using it in the '90s was SGI (but I could always be wrong)

>>47513305

Interesting. I've seen SunView before, actually I think I probably have some SPARCStations out in the garage with it, not familiar with those other two however.
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I've just ran IceWM for this
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>>47513347
>Interesting. I've seen SunView before, actually I think I probably have some SPARCStations out in the garage with it, not familiar with those other two however.

Pre-X UNIX GUIs are hard to find documentation on.
Here is one on Andrew: https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~AUIS/ljdocs/mkmost/welcome.html

And NeWS: http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?NetworkExtensibleWindowSystem

NeWS actually shares a lot in common with NeXTSTEP, as in they both follow the object-oriented model and render shit in PostScript. Pic related, from the documentation for the SPARC version of HyperTIES, a presentation program from University of Maryland (http://hcil2.cs.umd.edu/trs/89-13/89-13.html)
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>>47507657
I like the old look better than the new flashy look. Here's my current desktop. Using the xfce-basic gtk theme.
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Pic: FVWM circa June 1996
Doom, music, video player, email, editor, terminal. What more does one need?

Also, awesome old GUI showcase links:
http://xwinman.org/
http://toastytech.com/guis/
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>>47513477

That's some cool shit, thanks m8

this is why I love these kinds of threads

>>47513565

not bad, I usually use a similar color scheme myself

I like to rice mine to look more like a modernized CDE though because I'm a hipster

>>47513605

http://xwinman.org/fvwm.php

I know you already linked it, but the fvwm configs on here are top kek, I'll have to try a couple out some day.
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>>47513653
xfce-stellar is a hot GTK theme.
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Why do people like taskbars so much? Displaying everything is impossible since it they only cover a small portion of the screen. When I need an overview of what is running I toss the cursor in the corner so I can see all windows or use a hotkey to see all windows in relation to what desktop they are on. On any other given time I should just see the windows in front of me.
Can anyone give me a scenario where a taskbar is useful?
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>xfce will never look like a gaudy as shit CDE ripoff ever again

>>47513707

pretty erect tbh

>>47513744

When you don't multitask a shit ton and you're used to the Windows environment I find them plenty useful

I was never much for hotkeys, don't really know why
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>>47513744
But it displays the most important information. The icon tells you what application it is, and the text what the application is doing. Also a very good place for application shortcuts, clock, tray, application menu and so on. It's good for displaying information that you want to be accessible at all time.
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>>47507826
Don't post that. The pinstripe OS Xes were ugly as sin. Much worse than everything that came beforehand or afterwards. I can't believe anyone thought OS X 10.0-10.2 looked good.

>random pointless transparency
>overly glossy photoshop-effect-looking blobs of colour on everything
>strong dark shadows that make the window buttons look off-center
>that fucking pinstripe background on absolutely everything

Awful.

Platinum was perfect though. Mac OS 8 and 9 (and 7 with Appearance Manager) were the best looking.
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>>47513804
I love the window decorations on this one, I used to have an xfwm4 theme that was a ripoff of it
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>>47513771
Can you name an application that doesn't display that information? I mean if you have the window open and it takes up 90% of the screen why not look at that instead of the taskbar?
It seems that it is useful if you multitask in the sweetspot of too many windows/desktop and not so much you would want a full screen overview.
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>>47513835
The window decorations were pretty great. I'd love to have a GTK theme that replicated the rest of the look. Preferably by using screenshots of the actual OS.
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>>47513804

I still like the more minimal look of System 7 and before, Platnium is breddy good though.

The javascriptless captcha is a piece of unironic shit, holy fuck.
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>>47513901
GTK Theme - Classico, or "Classic Platinum Streamlined" if it is buggy in your GTK version
Xfwm4 - PlatiNomNom
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>>47514034
>tfw have a 450MHz Powermac G4 with 256MB RAM, ATI Rage 128 Pro 16MB, 20GB HDD, DVD-ROM running OS 9.2.2 to dick around on
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i like the WIndows 10 GUI
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>>47514319

I really want to get a factory loaded 450 MHz G3 to fuck around with, too bad all I can find are the shitty 300 MHz ones.
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For a while the desk selling desktop environment.
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>>47511038
>security essentials
no longer supported, use avast or avg
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I remember using Opensolaris and it used Gnome 2 and some sweet looking custom theme (I think it was called nimbus).

I really found that great looking.
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>>47514379

Did OpenSolaris use the Java Desktop System? (yeah, it's GNOME, but whatever)
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>>47514407
Not that, that looks like ass.
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>crunchbang linux is kill
>would have to rice up a distro myself
it's just openbox, right?
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>>47514062
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>>47514412

it does, I think I know what you're talking about though
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>>47511828
Yeah I like that too. I was using it for a long while before I changed to Aqua.
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>>47508231
my eyes hurt
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>>47514414
Openbox + Tint2 + Conky with some Python scripts (like the Super+X combo) and some modifications to the openbox config to be able to manipulate windows with keyboard shortcuts.
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>>47514414
Install Debian jessie. But you can ask yourself if you want to use the tint2 panel or something else. I personally use the lxpanel because it has everything I need and uses the gtk theme.
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>>47507826
>>47513804
OS X 10.4 through 10.6 was the best OS X.
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>>47512681
>there's a blurry distinction between what's open and what's just hanging around waiting to be opened.
I agree 100%. Docks are plain stupid. Another big problem is that application launchers also suck. Take Gnome 3's clusterfuck of an app launcher. It's worse than the stuff you see on mobile phones.
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>>47512658
>Large icons are faster than text to figure out what the program is
Only if you've very familiar with the icons and are running only a few programs. Once you start running a lot of stuff and using new programs often, you'll feel like taking the "dock" and shredding its sorry bitmaps because its a pain in the ass.
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>>47515470
Yuck. The window titles are barely visible.
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>>47511699
A shitty bar, shitty wm, conky, systemd, and a ponyfucker. Likely on Arch as well.

0/10 bait, not even subtle.
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>>47507759
>svenska
EN VACKER DAG KOMMER TILL DIG OM DU HAR POSTAT "TACK SVERIGE" HÄR!
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>>47516021
Anon, har du erövrat ditt skrivord idag?
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>>47516049
PRATA INTE SÃ… SNABB
JAG FÖRSTÅR DIG INTE
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>>47516092
SHIT I CAN'T EVEN SHITPOST RIGHT
REPLACE THE SECOND LINE WITH:
"JAG FÖRSTÅR INTE DIG"
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>>47514319
>tfw have iMac G3, G4, G5, PowerMac G4, G5, Mac Mini G4, eMac G4, PowerBook G4, and more
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>>47516153
I'd like to start collecting more classic Macs as well, currently own an iBook G4 and G3, an eMac, the first PowerBook G3 (kanga?), a Performa 6115 and a Mac SE.
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>>47515318
10.4 to 10.5 was a pretty big switch as well (visually at least), 10.5 to 10.9 looked pretty much the same though (again, design wise)
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>>47508169
>fisher price design

>>47510995
>XP was pretty nice for its time

It was heavily criticized at the time for looking like a baby toy.
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>>47516021
>>47516049
>>47516092
gorstag kableske tagedste gid akche silskde forrewols ilskdej forlsiwaw?
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>>47512101
FUck off consumer.
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>>47511038
Enjoy your screen tearing :^)

Also, >vista
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Made the mistake of installing xfce and lightdm. How do I get rid of all of them and go back to arch with no gui? Is it as simple as pacman -Rs xfce4 lightdm?
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>>47516238
windows 7 still had fucking hot dog stand?
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>>47516238
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>>47516238
>that old chrome logo
almost forgot how ugly as shit it is now. Kinda like how youtube gets worse and worse but you don't remember until you see the old version
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>>47511038
>No one realizes this is Vista
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>>47516238
I used Safari in 2010 lol
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If you dislike the present so much, why not just virtualize an old linux distribution or version of windows, set it to run a clean copy on each boot, run a modern release of seamonkey, and use external storage for your files?
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>>47516290
What's wrong with Vista? It with the Service Packs and Platform Updates is 7. The difference is placebo.
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>>47516329
Nothing is wrong with it. Just I was point it out because usually someone makes a comment
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>>47507657
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>>47511991
Is it possible to use cde with plan 9?
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>>47507657
I still like Crux as a window decoration, it's stylish.

>>47507759
solid icons, crisp indow borders...

>>47507822
ALL THAT XP GLOSS SHIT NIGGER WHAT ARE YOU NIGGING

>>47508061
I love that theme, if they could make one based on this design for the whole system it would e sexy as hell.

>>47512101
thought it was Windows 8 or 10 from the thumbnail

>>47513804
fuckl the rounded edges, square is clean as fuck. Another Apple fuckup was to ditch this theme.
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>>47510995
It almost made me purchase WindowBlinds.Never really have enablmed the themes service.
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>>47516254
It's not in W7. Someone else copied it into W7.
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haw.
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>>47517459
Nostalgia just kicked in.
>using moricons.dll for that MS DOS icon.
So I wasn't the only one...
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Win2000/XP classic theme is GOAT. Too bad its bastardized in win 7 and gone in 8+.

I wish someone would 100% clone it for loonix.
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>>47511260
I wish it supported xcursors like gnome2/xfce4
it only seems to support those simple static bitmap cursors

with CTWM it seems to support workspaces
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>>47508234
isnt good GUIs the topic? i find xfce to give me a nearly perfect and traditional interface as well.
usually not with the defaults but thats as its up to the distributor of each distribution
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>>47517459
>Shitposting /g/ from Windows 9X while listening to Deftones
You sir have earned a medal
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Try tiling wm, the only usable window manager!
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>>47511828
dayum m8
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>>47507826
I still think this is the most beautiful UI ever. Not even exaggerating.
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>>47514062
6/10 nice try. Faenza doesn't fit there.
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ITT: Shit UIs
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>>47516238
Take care of your eyes m8. Those colors seem pretty dangerous to me.
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>>47507657
Nice thread OP :'>
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Agreed Op. That's why I love MATE
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>>47520929
in dark colorscheme, this windows styling is pretty dank. still going with mate btw.
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>>47517588

http://xwinman.org/fvwm95.php
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>>47508386
>hacking the gibson/10
>FBI magnet
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>>47517459

despite being french, y-you're OK
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>>47511828
Now I have the urge to play Uplink.

And install Deus Ex.
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>>47522296
>you're mom
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>>47513565
A-anon

Can I have the wallpaper? pls.
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>>47520929
>>47521737
What distro are you guys on? And what mate version? I'm on fedora and wondering if i should install fedora mate spin or ubuntu mate
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>>47522296
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>>47516193
You can turn on all the features except the Aero visual style to get good font rendering, vsync, etc. but still have the nice Windows Classic look.
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>>47522829
Am I the only one who LOVES texture? Like I absolutely adore grainy/rocky textures in my wm.
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>>47522625
MATE is MATE, everything should work the same whether you use Debian, Fedora, Ubuntu, or Arch.
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>>47522409
What's you're problem, bro??
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Kinda counts I guess.
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>>47514062
GTK3 once again fails its attempt to be something better. Someone axe this shitty toolkit already.
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>>47516290
>this is vista
how could you tell?
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>>47522964
Not him, but there are some small things, a bigger detail being the black, glossy toolbar in the photo viewer. That was a dead giveaway.
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>>47522864
Oh god, please no. I think they look *rather* unappealing!
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>>47522964
>>47522980
The volume and network icon as well.
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loved this gome look
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>>47522864

texture is pretty good when done right on older UIs, old Unices and repeating texture wallpapers come to mind

I don't really like RISC OS' textures though
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>>47523036

I want to buy a PS/2 now to fuck around with this on

Are there any good sites with lots of OS/2 abandonware?

>captcha: lricy
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>>47522864
I adore RISC OS
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>>47523023
Near my last house there was an ATM that still ran OS/2 Warp something on a Pentium 3.

Crashed on me and stole my card, then got stuck in a reboot loop.
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>>47517459
>dat pidgin icon
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>>47518531
I use awesome at work. I've gained like 4 hours per week at work just not trying to shuffle around windows just right every day.
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>>47523078
Well you can just download the real IBM OS/2 Warp
https://archive.org/details/IBMOS2Warp3Collection
https://archive.org/details/IBMOS2Warp4Collection

I think IBM realizes that they aren't going to make much more money off of it any more.
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>>47507657
>even the Windows 7 taskbar is cancer, requiring you to click more.
tard
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>>47512372

I am a retard, please explain to me how is programming in Plan 9 better than in Linux.
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