What happenned to us?
Have we been consumed by marketing, phones, and battlestations?
Has ironic shit posting gone too far and ruined any motivation to do anything?
What happenned to /cpg/ let alone /g/ as a whole?
Monitoring this thread.
>>47431044
its hopeless anon :(
Related >>47428369
>>47431062
>>47430995
normies on the internet killed cyberpunk
CYBERPUNK
--------------------------------
>BBSes
>phreaking
>module music
>demoscene
>talking about "muh internet freedom"
>text files
>FTP servers
>IRC
>the deep web
>Exchanging PGP keys
>programming in ASSEMBLY
>hacking the Gibson
>entering the Matrix
Resources/Communities:
>IRC: #/g/punk at irc.rizon.net
>Unofficial /g/ BBSes:
>> telnet plbbs2.synchro.net
>> telnet gopher.su 1234
>> ssh [email protected]
>> telnet dorsal.tk 2323 [ipv4]
>> telnet dogma.dorsal.tk 2323 [ipv6]
>Public UNIX System: http://sdf.org/
>Public TOPS-20 System: telnet twenex.org
>Reading material: http://textfiles.com/
>List of modern BBSes: http://synchro.net/sbbslist.html
>2600 and Phrack
>WWW->Gopher Bridge: http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/
>Demoscene message board: https://www.pouet.net
>Streaming demoscene music: https://scenemusic.net/demovibes/
>ANSI art archive: http://sixteencolors.net/
>Assembly programming resources: http://www.cheapersunglasses.com/asm.html
Healthy reminder that cyberpunk is now and that one should start living it
instead of fantasizing like some cyberhipster:
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/psa-why-there-wont-be-a-third-.html
Pseudo-wiki and link aggregation: http://cyberlife.neocities.org/cyberpunk.html
Actual wiki with archived links: http://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Cyberpunk
Contribute to the following projects:
i2p: https://geti2p.net/en/
Tor: https://www.torproject.org/
Hyperboria: http://hyperboria.net/
>not putting the copypasta in the OP
/cyb/ - The Cyberpunk General
>IRC: #/g/punk on irc.rizon.net
>TOX: #/g/punk TOX groupchat; add the followingB2074450B92DAC83964363EC52F9700BB9E7B330958509BBD795980C8D1A73308354F6F36659and message "invite"
>>> News <<<
Healthy reminder that cyberpunk is now and that one should start living it instead of fantasizing like some cyberhipster
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/12/psa-why-there-wont-be-a-third-.html
>Latest news from the spit jockeys
No one updates it, read thread instead.
>>> Finding out more <<<
http://cyberlife.neocities.org/
http://tracerneo.eu.org/cyb/
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/Cyberpunk
Linux For Beginners, Nackt's Cyberpunk Tech & Library: http://tracerneo.eu.org/cyb/textfiles/
Archive: https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/?task=search2&search_subject=Cyberpunk&search_op=op
>> Contains:
Circumventing surveillance, in meatspace
Encrypting your communications on the grid
Search engines that respect your freedoms
Mesh network technology
Build your own GSM network
Things for your smartphone
BBS
Public UNIX systems
Required reading
Cybermedia
Etc.
>>47431142
>>47431144
Yes.
Maybe we can have a good cyb thread now that all the kiddies are on that other shitty chan?
>>47431134
then why don't we set up our own BBS or hang out in an IRC?
How do I get into usenet? How does it work anyway? Why do I have to pay for a service to download files?
>>47431228
Don't bother. Usenet is plagued by DCMA takedowns these days. Your money is better spent on a seedbox.
>>47431062
Wish I had a room like that.
>>47431179
>>47431163
Can we decide on one of these?
Haven't seen one of these threads for a while...
This thread is so quiet.
Remember when we had a /cyb/ thread every day? What happened?
I'd like to imagine they stopped, because we came to realize that we are living the cyberpunk fantasy. Every day I wake up and read something in the news an think "That sounds like something from Deus Ex."
As much as I'd love to talk about /cyb/, it's much more exciting to live it. Contribute to the programs in the thread, make pirateboxes, encrypt everything, put jap stickers on your laptop, and become the keyboard cowboy you've always dreamed of.
>>47431560
>put jap stickers on your laptop
h-how did you know this?
>>47431575
Because I did it too. At least, until baggage claim cracked my laptop screen in two and I had to order a new screen.
>>47431163
Lainchan
#/g/punk on rizon
>>47431616
lainchan is shit
>>47430995
Remember years back when these threads started popping up once or twice a week? Then remember the month after that with daily threads, a new one being made minutes after the last died?
The brighter flame burns quickest ect.
Keep it weekly and we're good, or, fuck that, once a month have a huge ass thread.
I'll make a /g/iy thread here in a month or so, teach /g/ how to make circuit boards and shit. I hope that soon enough we'll have people making their own smartphones, and not just with a fucking raspberry pi strapped to a screen.
I mean PCB level design. That'll be a good start of cybing /g/ the fuck up.
>>47431629
So is this but that doesn't stop me.
Where else can you go ;_;
>>47431179
What's the fun if we're not doing it over phone phone lines with dial-up? There's just no fun to be had with TCP/IP
>>47431663
I'd rather be alone than with a bunch of "muh trendy cyberpunk" hipsters like the people in lainchans shitty irc. All they're doing is tarnishing the name of a good show.
>>47430995
>Negro wearing leather pants and using a computer
That is new. 90's were such a fascinating time, I kind of want to relive that experience again.
>>47431649
>I hope that soon enough we'll have people making their own smartphones, and not just with a fucking raspberry pi strapped to a screen.
That's already a thing in China.
>>47431693
Lainchan overall certainly holds that feel. Its a sad shell based on ideas, that this younger generation missed out on (or of people not competent enough to do or care to learn). Occasionally there is something worth visiting.
Torchan and overchan used to be interesting and real cyb/diy. Then torchan died and overchan sucks and is slow.
>>47431649
>Designing PCB's with pirated software, based on spec sheets you god onn some shady russian server with "Confidential" sprawled across every page
>Sending the encrypted files to a fab in Shenzhen for manufacturing
>Buying factory reject/recycled intel chips from some chinese website with a currency you earned entirely from letting strangers borrow your processing time.
>Having all the parts arrive on your doorstep
>Spending sleepless nights at a workbench aligning all the half millimeter thick parts on a board that has tenth of a millimeter tolerances for misplacement
>Finally after months of preparation, putting it in a modified toaster oven to reflow it.
>Burning the rom
>Plugging it in
>Watching as it jumps into life
>Realizing you have made a UMPC, from scratch
>Realizing that you can make anything you can imagine, that you are a god, that the future of technology is now in your hands, unbound by the constraints of popular capitalism, profitability, and uncontrolled greed.
Realizing that this isn't fantasy.
>>47431755
Pics I wanna see
>>47431711
I mean us lazy, undriven western fucks. And on more of an individual level, perhaps people sharing their schematic hookups but everyone taking what they do with the info into their own hands entirely.
Soon friend, soon.
896a2d42353614a3d93a8eb4a68f1b1f
>>47431828
Meant for >>47431780
>>47430995
Hackers was not a cyberpunk movie.
>>47431707
Masters of Deception had SuperNigger as a member.
>>47431782
It's a lot harder in the western world due to all the patent bullshit.
>Remember Mann was making a movie about hackers and shit
>Google if it's out yet
>Oh shit, it's already on torrents
>Every single one has either retardedly bad audio, is a camrip, or the subs (which you need because half the movie is in China) only work a small amount of the time
>>47431961
>or the subs (which you need because half the movie is in China) only work a small amount of the time
What is softsub?
>>47430995
>What happenned to us?
Let me break it down for you.
>Have we been consumed by marketing, phones, and battlestations?
No /g/ got flooded by normies that re-post the same shit over and over and over and over and over and over,and mods not doing anything about it.Either limit the number of threads per week or month or make the general threads sticky and let the normies shitpost.
>Has ironic shit posting gone too far and ruined any motivation to do anything?
Hackes was all stereotypes put in one place,its a fucking cringefest but that doesnt mean its not fun to watch and made good points for its time and became cult film in general.
Other note is that THIS BOARD IS RUN BY NORMIES NOW,which means when mention anything cyberpunk like bodymods will get as much resistance here as if they will get in the real world.Sometimes when i see really stupid insults and questions about something i rly cant tell if they are really trolloing or they are that limited with their mind.I remember back in the day if you didint know know what are you talking about or were dumb,mods acted quickly banning left and right just to stop flame war and raise quality on board.Now everything went to shit because chan sold out to icanhascheeseburger network.
Generals are all cancer.
There's your fucking answer.
![wbhat.mkv_snapshot_00.57.09_[2015.04.09_09.58.56].png](https://i.imgur.com/MrWMqPI.png "wbhat.mkv_snapshot_00.57.09_[2015.04.09_09.58.56].png")
>>47431961
Is this what you are talking about? This is the only thing Ive seen on zamunda that is hacker related in recent time.
>cyber punk
>not cyberpunk
I had to fix my IRC script you lamer
For the privacy freaks, consider searx!
https://searx.me/
https://searx.laquadrature.net/
The second link is from La Quadrature du Net, which is a french association for web privacy, they are trustworth. The code is on Github.
https://github.com/asciimoo/searx
>>47430995
This thread is my jam
It all clicked for me when one anon posted a reply to a thread, asking a question.
>Remember when "battlestations" was said ironically?
Yeah, and how.
So, what's there for US to talk about? I want to be /g/. Not neo-./g/. I still believe in /g/.
What's so bad about lainchan?
>>47437312
kanker
>>47437351
proost
>>47430995
the /v/ and /reddit/ invasion has killed this board.
Are nootropics /cyb/?
I'm thinking about trying piracetam.
>>47437444
>implying it wasn't actually done by JTRIG to disrupt this board's ability to drive anti-surveillance efforts
Honestly, there are two ways to really jump-start the cyber punk age.
Either all like-minded individuals create s physical colony, and do wg a they want (obviously very impractical).
Or, we wait for VR and create "lobbies" like in GITS and. Communicate that way.
I'm ok with either.
>>47430995
It's the nature of humanity. Near everything devolves into something utterly braindead, eventually. It simply takes time.
>>47431062
I see you've been to lainchan.
>>47430995
>cyberpunk
I just want a military grade android body, like Batou. Is that so much to ask for?
>>47430995
>tfw living the cyberpunk dream by hacking the coffee key at uni and never paying for my food anymore
>tfw did it entirely on a tty with x turned off
>>47431142
This link is dead: http://cyberlife.neocities.org/cyberpunk.html. Use this one instead: http://web.archive.org/web/20141012133851/http://cyberlife.neocities.org/
Why use a gopher proxy when you can use the real gopher protocol on your browser?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/overbiteff/
>>47431083
Looks like a borderlands bandit
>>47430995
I feel you OP, every time I come on here its just people shit posting about how Linux is the all mighty, how mac is the all mighty, how there desktop environment is all mighty, how there battle-station is all mighty and a bunch of consumerism shit.
Not a single post of what someone has made with an electronics board, how they set up their server to do something cool or actually talking about something innovative and game changing to the industry as a whole.
This board is honestly a piece of shit, might as well call it /b/v2
>>47438218
I desperately wish that there was more DIY tech stuff on this board.
I can't do anything of the like myself, but just seeing what people can make with their own two hands is infinitely more interesting than the specs of the latest bloated smartphone.
>>47430995
It is because most people on /g/ don't know anything about technology. They only know how to one-up each other using their pockets by buying brand named stuff. Most just use their rigs for nothing more than porn and games.
>>47438218
>>47438395
>>47438396
Why don't we come up with a project then?
What's something we all could be interested in, that everyone could contribute to, that would not require intensive/large monetary contribution from those involved?
>>47438459
Whatever it may be, I wouldn't be able to contribute much.
All I can do is Python, and I'm still learning.
>>47438459
>>794221
>>795104
>>788651
>>47438459
/g/'s problems are too deeply rooted and as a board, it, along with 4chan, is beyond reconciliation. Anyone who values their sanity has moved on elsewhere. Anyone else with half a brain here has a very guarded psyche and doesn't come here for anything meaningful or invested.
I just hang around on lainchan now and then. But that's more because I like SEL to begin with and wanted to see if it was possible to be around those of roughly similar mind for once. And what would happen. I've noticed major Lain fans tend to be of a certain sort.
Neat radio either way though.
Is Raspberry Pi cyberpunk?
>>47438546
I'm the guy you replied to. I'm also just beginning to learn Python and Linux Mint. So I can't contribute much in that sense. But I do have professional skills in marketing and project management.
who /techwear/ here?
>>47437728
Clony would be more optimal. People involved should have a stable source of income so they don't become a burden on others. The point isn't to bond but to be productive. Regional colonies will be a must.
>>47438618
It is such a silent thing, to fall.
I don't know shit about hacking or making PCBs because I'm a retarded NEET that's given up on life. Hell, I probably knew more about hacking in my teens than I do now.
I have never seen anything worthwhile in these threads either and I've been here since the start. There isn't much on lainchan other than >cyb wallpapers >cyb music >cyb vpn.
This is all pretty pointless if you want my opinion.
>>47438806
Reporting
>>47438896
Well, you have to start somewhere.
Of all the animes, movies, games, etc. what's the coolest, most iconic item or device or program they have used? Let's get some ideas rolling here...
>>47438963
Device capable of taking an input, subjecting it to known and controlled logic via an energy source that allows it to perform work, and outputting a result.
>>47438989
HEY KID...IM A COMPUTA
STOP ALL THE DOWNLOADING
.....PORK CHOP SANDWHICHES
>>47438896
I'm slowly rising out of a desolate pit of having given up. I don't really think about it anymore, I don't expect anything, I don't care if I succeed or fail and honestly barely have a perspective of the delineation between the two.
I suppose I learned a new perspective on the nature of trying. I'm still a broken mess, but it's all ultimately up to you. Maybe you oughta just move without planning or caring where you'll end up.
>>47438963
tachikoma
thermo-optic camouflage
cyberbrain implant
>>47439020
Set small goals every day, and write it down when you accomplish them. Things like that can work motivating if you stick to them
>>47438963
The Cortex Bomb from Dystopia.
A thermonuclear bomb sitting snuggly inside your skull.
>>47439180
>>47439222
Was thinking more along the lines of something we could attempt.
I'm sure we all have one or two old android phones lying around, what do you think would be a good use for them?
They can be powered by a single USB cable so they don't consume much energy. I've used one as IP webcam but there isn't anything interesting around my place.
I figure they could be used as repeaters or used as a small LAN network.
>>47439421
Yes...go on go on...
>>47431828
Need more images like this
>>47439421
http://piratebox.cc/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dbi4N6NGn4
started watching today, so good
>>47438618
Do you know where people have moved too though? If you can answer, thanks.
>>47439421
ip webcam?
do explain please, my incredible is waiting to be incredible again
is chiptune cyberpunk?
>>47438618
>>47439572
Speaking of which, isn't there some site that lists all the various chans currently up?
>>47439583
It's what the name implies. It's a webcam accessible by an IP address.
>>47430995
please keep all fashion threads in >>>/fa/
thank you, and God bless
>>47439572
I don't, sorry. I'm not sure the question even could be answered, or how to define "they".
I imagine they either went off to do their own things, or could be said to have dispersed to other smaller communities based on their individual interests. I'm sure you could plot out a spectrum of places and where people clustered to if you had access to that kind of information though. What clusters to point to, I don't know.
Why doesn't someone start an IRC?
What do you guys think of software defined radio?
Any of you have any experience using it? It sounds interesting.
>>47439653
I'm on IRC most of the time but even the IRC craze has toned downed a bit I feel like.
The early days of Internet wild west are mostly gone now, lots of people stopped experimenting or grew out of it. My circle dispersed as time went by, people got jobs and fell into their daily routine.
Looking at the catalog right now I don't see anything interesting, I just come here to pass time I guess but I am disgusted at the tech support and consumer tech threads. It's always the same fucking garbage.
What to do...
>>47439724
Get on IRC, faggit.
>>47439712
If we have nothing to discuss here, why would we have something to discuss on IRC?
>>47439737
I'm taking a break, man. I feel unwelcomed at this time.
>>47439374
Create a new version of google glass
>>47439542
This is fucking cool. Doing this during the weekend!
>>47439739
Not that anon, but it's possible the people currently lounging around in a chat might already be discussing something.
For all we know, lainchan could be having a riveting discussion on tech.
>>47439782
This sounds ok. Make it something small, and portable.
What do we need for this?
>>47431330
first one is old; I don't think any of those BBSs are still running; the second one is the one I helped write up last year iirc. it also needs updated; we don't have a tox groupbot anymore I don't think.
>>47431163
you could fork chevex's u413 forum and make something out of that; I think someone on /g/punk was trying to do similar a year ago but it never amounted to anything.
Any BBS with nice activity?
>Reading Charles Stross blog
>it's pretty good
>suddenly reach the line "I know this may boggle the imagination of younger or more forgetful readers, but Al Quaida and Osama bin Laden had not at that time hijacked any airliners, much less etched themselves into the pages of world history: they were not, at that time, the Emmanuel Goldstein of the New World Order."
How can someone so clever be such a retard
>>47431663
Ocho>>47431744
Hate ryhmes w (insert number) chan hás a cyber board>>47431663
>>47431663
>>47431434
>Remember when we had a /cyb/ thread every day? What happened?
The threads devolved into echo chambers merely because relevant news became sparse once Summer hit in 2014.
>>47439762
just change your name
>>47430995
>cyberpunk
I shiggitty.
>>47439814
an old smartphone that can run something like LAYAR, or something small that runs android.
If you can't find something that is small enough, you might need to work with a pellicle mirror
>>47439616
oh my fucking god
i'm on /g/
im a software engineer
im asking how do
>>47431649
>Remember years back when these threads started popping up once or twice a week?
Dude that was literally "one" year ago; it hasn't been that long. The generals stopped being a daily thing by the time the fall school year came around; I agree with everything else you've said tho.
>>47437465
piracetam is good but I'd suggest you go with a caffeine/l-theanine stack first; racetams are little more fringe I'm afraid.
>>47439921
1. Google "IP webcam"
2. Install the APK on phone
3. Connect phone to the interwebz and see if it's accessible from the mentioned IP address
4. ???
5. Profit!
>>47439921
not that guy, but just get a program that'll pipe your webcam to a stream on your system.
install a server backend like php or sinatra or django and write a frontend that'll feed that pipe through to localhost.
install nginx and proxy it forward so you can access it anywhere in your home.
I'm sure there are ruby/python libs that can interface nicely with most webcams for this purpose.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/updates/92985806/1426012494
sick game thats been indev since 2012. i love the way it looks.
>>47439996
Looks like a poor man's Alien Isolation.
How about that new Deus Ex though? I'm actually pretty hyped for a video game for once.
>>47431828
I could not help but notice your png was not optimized anon.
I have optimized your png.
Your png is now optimized.
>>47439979
this is quickly becomming a trainwreck
im talking about using the phone as the ipcam, i've done all that before
>>47439965
sorry, i honestly didnt think it would be called "IP Webcam"
>>47439919
Go on...
>>47439957
I'd agree with this completely for starting off. I started that stack a few years ago, then added piracetam and later noopept to the stack. Shit's cash for focus and learning, anon. It got me through me through finals multiple times.
I've been experimenting with L-DOPA on occasion also. Helps me sleep a lot better, and gives me some crazy fucking dreams.
>>47440113
I've got some l-dopa in the form of mucuna powder. Been sitting here for months and I've been reluctant to try it.
>>47440146
Yeah, I have it in mucuna form as well. My subjective experience has been an increase in the quality of my sleep, but I haven't used it consistently enough to notice anything else.
>>47440036
routine is going to blow alien isolation out of the water. didnt really like that game
>>47430995
>What happenned to us?
Normies.
>>47440163
I have visual snow, and among other things my brain tends to handle drugs strangely.
Only in my early twenties, but I'd say I'dve been more readily apt to try it when I was a bit younger. I'm kind of ingrained in my routines and the various compounds at my disposal. It's interesting to hear your experience with it though, maybe one of these days.
>>47440176
ree
man roller blades were dope as fuck how come nobody uses those anymore
I would love to wear skates at work, so much more productivity
>>47439900
Where is this IRC channel located?
>>47440199
I'm in my late twenties and try pretty much everything I can at least once, short of the harder narcotics.
I like to think of myself as a hobbyist psychonaut.
>>47440165
indie games that take 3 years to make will always out class a game that took 2 years to make with a big team.
>>47440243
#/g/punk on rizon; #lainchan on freenode.
on a sidenote lainchan is working on their own e-zine and another anon started up their own at https://ensorcel.org/.
That's pretty much all that's been going on with this community as of late afaik.
>>47431062
I think this picture shows why cyper punk hasn't taken off. It's still too expensive for all the cool gadgets let alone electricity to run so much shit all the time.
>>47440304
I would've gone that direction myself at a point. Was going to do some acid, or peyote buttons in high school, but couldn't find a decent source. Couple growing mental instability with that and it just didn't end up working out. Stuck mainly with amphetamine (d and l), kava kava, cocoa bean, various sources of the other methyxanthines, etc.
I'm not really in a period that supports any kind of unchecked expansion at the moment. I've spent the last few years dragging myself back to something functional, and seeking some kind of reconciliation. Life has definitely been its own trip.
>>47440356
ah yes; in the future people commute in lamborghinis, neon is more vibrant than ever before and everyone is able to afford acrnm™ streetwear.
>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfadJj4d5K4
Cyberpunk is very much ingrained with Brutalist architecture as the subgenre sprouted at the height of the Cold War; since it was a romantic reaction to the military industrial complex of yesteryear people often equate that sensibility by instilling renaissance-era imagery. From Blade Runner to Deus Ex; it's all there. Poor people co-opting ancient modernist apartments and just doing what they can to survive under the umbrella of looming concrete megastructures in the backdrop.
The main problem thing that I see in the way of cyberpunk is that security is too good these days. Back at the start of all this, phreakers used to be able to get free long distance calls by just whistling certain tones. I wish getting free mobile 4G was so easy.
>>47440241
The facebook generation started laughing at anyone using them.
>>47440607
Its not the security but rather the lack of skilled people.
>>47440687
Make jet set radio a reality with motorized magnetic skates. Then we'll truly be in the future.
>>47440689
This is the real problem I guess. There's a big drive in a fair few western countries to get more people into programming and computers though. Maybe the next generation will be the real cyber-punks
>>47440689
It's not that people are less skilled, security has become far more advanced and specialised.
>>47440720
probably. Shits getting really crazy really quickly, although I predict a bust of the whole mobile app market soon and that it'll quickly be replaced with frivolous biotechnology and wearables that will also barely make money.
>>47440471
Anon, I...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quCBrBj6bKI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjfdH_lS87o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mauV2NdCs60
>>47440165
>routine is going to blow alien isolation out of the water. didnt really like that game
Is it going to surpass it because it's better (which is subjective) or because you didn't like it (which is also subjective)? Lot of people enjoyed Ayy lsolation though, me included, so it definitely wasn't bad, but it's subjective preference overall.
Routine seems promising, although I wouldn't bet my money on it. I will definitely try it out if it (ever) comes out. I usually like games like these.
>>47440036
Me too. I'm interested what's going to happen considering that they're keeping Adam. I thought that the game would be more years apart from HR dealing with shit after the major consequences happened, but it looks like it's actually dealing with the consequences directly. If it will be at least as good as HR then it's ok, but I hope they will have a few new tricks without ruining the experience.
>>47440740
Security has outpaced education.
>>47440711
You'd have to wear a battery for a backpack but it's possible. they have electric motors small enough and powerful enough.
>>47440809
Graphine super capacitors.
>>47440830
nigga we both know why that wont work.
>>47440785
>it's actually dealing with the consequences directly
So which of the endings is going to be the canon ending, then?
>>47440036
It's not coming out till 2017 though.
http://www.amazon.com/Deus-Ex-Mankind-Divided-Xbox-One/dp/B00VQZOIAQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1428614184&sr=8-2&keywords=mankind+divided
4chan as a whole is the modern cyber punk, when will u guys learn.
So are we going to do the "Google glass" idea?
>>47440940
Sure, i'll make a logo
>>47440940
>>47440955
Let's call it /g/lass.
>>47440607
You have to start small. I remember discovering years ago how to keep the Internet access active on an inactive Boost Mobile account as long as you added $0.20 every three months (doesn't work anymore). Or when tethering was blocked by T-Mobile, how it worked suddenly worked in a virtual machine running Linux. Just keep fucking around with it and hope to get lucky like I did, or read more about how SIM cards work I guess
What even makes someone cyberpunk?
>>47440862
I dont.
wake up, Neo, Cyberpunk is dead
it's an outdated view of the future, much like space opera before it
Gibson and the rest emphasized what was new and exciting in the 80's and combined it with the then popular punk subculture
but while the technology factor is less absurd than in space opera the message and cultural reflection of cyberpunk is no less outdated and out of touch
>>47440872
they said none of the endings are cannon and they're trying to build a story using parts from all 4 endings.
So not consequences directly but consequences of the general mood of society
>>47440979
Hard to answer. I dont as much aspire to be cyberpunk as much as cyberpunk seems to coincide with what I want to be. I want to just be able to tinker with anything and male my own tools that I use in everyday life. I'd also like to make things for other people that helps us all stay connected and resist the urge to fall into soul killing adult routines.
>>47440995
The main advantage of graphene supercaps is charge time. It's just as energy dense as liion. So it'd be just as heavy.
except graphene is new shit, so its expensive, impractically so.
>muh cd burner and pencil lead
Alright faggot go and make a battery with those things.
I'm not saying the tech is bad. I'ts fucking amazing and I can't fucking wait till we see it start hitting consumer markets. But for now, it's just a tech lab special hype buzz machine with no practical applications.
>>47441009
But we're literally 2 steps away from living in a cyberpunk dystopia.
>>47440957
Nice. I'm out about to meet with the lady friend right now but when I get home I'll compile all the ideas from this thread and make a doc.
>>47441065
There's a YouTube channel for a chemist who fucks around with graphine. He's made like 20 different ways to produce it already. I can't remember his name though. I'll go look it up for you.
>>47440872
This guy >>47441014
Although it's a strange decision. However if there would be any canon ending then this is what I think: (So yeah probably it's a combination of multiple endings, but I haven't seen anything resembling Sarif industries in the trailer.)
At first look the announcement trailer emphasized the division of the augmented and the "normal" people. As far as I remember only one ending implied heavy regulations, so maybe an opposite ending is the cannon one. You could also blew yourself up and there is an image in the announcement trailer where Adam is floating in cold water. Maybe he blew the facility up.
>>47441067
What would those two steps be?
Because it seems like we're pretty much already there.
>>47441009
you say that during the capitalism's stagnation with centralization the mainstream answer
>>47441107
>I'll go look it up for you.
Heh, that's actually really nice of you anon, thank you.
I still think about OWS sometimes. It could have been a very good thing, the young and not so young population started to get together and form movements. The problem is they were played by the system because everyone was inexperienced and the system knew how to play them, so they collapsed on themselves.
Why is it that the internet who was a playfield of progress and innovative ideas suddenly turned into this hostile thing that you need to control and a vehicle for old political ideas like the shit you see /pol/ kids spouting everywhere?
>>47441115
Body mods and automated physical security, as in turrets or automated guns or police machines in public places that will follow orders without hesitation.
>>47440955
:^)
>youll never be /cyb/
im sad
>>47441153
>OWS
What is OWS?
Occupy Wall Street?
>>47441009
The cyberpunk of today doesn't even look close to the 80's cyberpunk, there isn't much punk there anymore. It flirts with sci-fi and futuristic dystopian ideas.
Anyway, a cyberpunk society is one you should avoid.
>>47441067
but we're not
it's all about hi-tech vs lo-life
we're reaching the tech but we're no closer to, in fact significantly further from, the lo-life part than we were when cy was relevant, in the 80's and early 90's
>>47441136
cyberpunk has always been about the low-life vs the machine
ironically the massive centralization and oversight makes for a largely anarchist society
the classic low-lifes of the punk culture are getting fewer by the minute and the machine is as ubiquitous as it has always been but we're increasing the distance between us and the lawless hellhole of The Sprawl, not approaching it
>>47441233
Why won't you anon? Like I said in a few posts above, I'm going to be compiling all the ideas and IRC channels tonight. We will keep this active. Fuck it. Let's start a project and DO something. Got to start somewhere.
>>47441110
It's probably for the best. All the endings left a bad taste in my mouth
>just choose a button at the end, nothing matters
and they were all crazy extreme decisions. So some mediation between them is the best way to go.
>>47441248
Yeah.
I'm increasingly of the idea that we should turn off our computers and go back to influence the (real) world.
>>47441264
cyberpunk without the punk is just cyber, meaningless and without purpose on its own
we should avoid cyberpunk society and we are
we're not nearing it as many itt seem to think
>>47441309
I quite agree. I felt the endings were kinda out of sync with the game.
>and they were all crazy extreme decisions. So some mediation between them is the best way to go.
This. There is no way he couldn't have told the truth in a better manner especially that the AI TV girl (Eliza) could almost do whatever Adam would have wanted.
>>47441115
the next bit is pretty funny actually. DPI and mass data mining are a thing now but weren't before because we finally have the processing power available cheaply enough for this to happen. in the coming years, moore's law comes to a screeching halt, while the developing world quickly catches up with the rest of us. All these new internet users pose a problem, because there's suddenly a lot more data that needs processing, but chips aren't getting any faster anymore. DPI isn't possible without massively degrading service again, and the elite's wet dream of total information awareness disappears ony a few years after it fully comes to fruition.
>>47441286
anarchism is decentralization dumbass
>>47441299
Anyone here remember Diaspora? Is that thing still active?
I believe it started here on /cyb/.
>>47441326
The online world is a part of the real world though.
And movements can be digital, just as much as they can be physical. We may not have large protests in the streets against NSA surveillance, for example, but we've got plenty of people tweeting, emailing, and calling.
Nowhere as many as would be nice, but still a decent amount.
>>47441367
Bullshit. It's just going to happen differently than everyone expects.
With all the SJW shit going on and the constant destruction of the male idea, men are just going to check out. It's already started happening. Lads culture in the UK. The boys in Japan. When Hilary become President it will happen in America.
That's when we all get together. We form our own shit. We become the "cyber punks."
And females gp back to begging for attention through sex and sandwiches
:^)
I bet you guys can't even make your own gadgets yet you miss being a cyberpunk?
jesus faggots
>>47441299
because im a useless NEET that can berely into programming
>>47441430
>ironically the massive centralization and oversight makes for a largely anarchist society
>>47441431
Seems like it's still a thing, although it seems to be bigger over in Germany than in the states.
I think lainchan's /cyb/ was trying to put together their own node, but I'm not sure how that turned out.
>>47441453
or death of us all
>>47441326
>that picture
I don't believe in the sincerity of that author, I think the misleading is intentional. It doesn't matter who gets elected when the game is rigged.
>inb4 what am I talking about
>the lobbyist revolving-door policy, the free-flowing money on capitol hill, the in-your-face corruption, corporations amending bills on the floor and injecting completely irrelevant clauses, anonymous amendments, etc
It's FUBAR'd.
>>47441496
The situation may be FUBAR, but there has to be some way to improve things.
>>47441496
Yeah but look at it this way, if everyone thinks like you, that elections are only a coin-toss and everything is corrupted, then it doesn't change the status quo. It only gets worse for you.
You can bet your ass that conservative baby boomer who only cares about his retirement is going to vote 100% of the time and push for candidates that cater to his ideals, while people like you won't vote at all so the people that could change something won't ever get elected.
>>47441454
Do you have the url for the /cyb/ node? I can't for the life of me remember what it was.
>>47441569
>if everyone thinks like you, that elections are only a coin-toss and everything is corrupted, then it doesn't change the status quo. It only gets worse for you
No, you don't get it. Shit's gonna get worse anyway, because it's not the politicians who run the show. It's the corporations. The only thing you may be able to change is whether pants-on-head retarded anti-abortion laws pass, but looking at the big picture, it's small potatoes.
Voting is supporting the system.
>>47441560
I'm not as optimistic as you.
>>47441153
Internet conservativism is nothing new. 2channel experienced it before us. You have to remember that 4chan has a tendency to be in opposition of the mainstream, the mainstream right now is liberal so the dialogue is conservative. Furthermore conservative ideas can be just as innovative and different as liberal ideas are. Check your ideology at the door and let your beliefs get questioned, just remember most of what you see has a certain level of irony to it.
is this the best /cyb/ related scene in TV and movie history?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLlj_GeKniA
>>47441560
Not within the affordances of the existing system. Just like you can't throw a human in the vacuum of space and say "it'll be rough with the no oxygen and cosmic rays thing at first, but we'll evolve." Can't. Not within existing affordances. Or factors, or competitive stimuli, whatever.
Systems rigged. Shit's fucked. I didn't vote the last 2 elections and I'm probably not going to delude myself into starting.
>>47441610
>Voting is supporting the system.
No, you HAVE TO vote. It doesn't cost you anything and at least you did something.
Don't even vote for dems or reps, vote for a third-party. If everyone did this, things would start to change or at least get noticed. You have to make your discontent known.
>>47441647
Some of /pol/'s concerns are very valid but I feel like they're too easily influenced and misled. I don't think the mainstream right now can really be considered liberal, it's more of a bastardization of liberal ideas to make things look confusing, murky, obscure etc. (yes, I'm talking about pot, equality, gay rights and so on, those things completely miss the point and aren't worth fighting for).
>>47441610
>>47441688
Nothing is static. Even if it happens long after all of us are dead and in the ground, SOMETHING will have to change eventually. And there has to be someway, no matter how small, that can affect the status quo.
Nothing can stay fucked forever.
>>47441733
Like wise what you see here is murky, vaguely conservative and hateful. You're right though, it's not like anyone has the right answers. Everyone is right sometimes and wrong at other times.
>>47441743
Seems like a lot of people are waiting for "the collapse" by just doing nothing.
The collapse won't happen overnight, especially if the 20 somethings of today don't do anything.
>>47441733
>If everyone did this, things would start to change or at least get noticed.
What part of corporations running the show don't you understand? Corporate money corrupts anything it touches and the bad guys are going to get in anyway. Even if we took faith in your naive perspective that it's the people that's the problem, do you honestly think the corporations wouldn't start funding third-party candidates the moment voting for them became a thing? They'd muddy the waters in a heartbeat.
The. Game. Is. Rigged.
>>47440979
You don't; we've been over this dozens of times.
With the internet providing easy access to information the very existence of subcultures has been made irrelevant. Subcultures have always existed to reinforce niche markets; niche markets garner their value in being niche. Yet when everyone can access previously niche markets within a few keystrokes, where does that leave the counterculture that subcultures have always been known for? The only kind of subculture that can exist in the information age is something dedicated to some visual aesthetic and nothing more; which at that point make you no more than a bloody hipster faggot.
Watch this video on genres and you'll see what I mean; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRIWmvvHQAw
>>47441743
>Even if it happens long after all of us are dead and in the ground, SOMETHING will have to change eventually. And there has to be someway, no matter how small, that can affect the status quo.
I agree. The western democracies are in the corruption stage of the cycle. Shit will degenerate even further until it collapses. And then the tape is flipped and the story starts over.
Your thinking is a recipe for suicide at forty when you realize you've sold your soul and changed jack shit.
When I see these threads (they used to be a lot more common some time ago), I always wonder is all just a nostalgia and what's the point of the modern cyberpunk.
20-30 years ago it kind of made sense, but now the vision of the future is not dictated by the users. It's all done by giant corporations like Google, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, etc. Hacking has changed too, mostly for the worst. Now there's a lot less freedom as software is generally a lot more secure and closed/locked/commercalized. Besides, the hacking has been, to a large extent, commercialized and now people call themselves ridiculous names such as ``pentester'' and ``security analyst'', which emphasizes only the security aspect and disregards any other part of the culture, which is simply dead. The popularity killed it, like it does to almost everything. Modern technology, and the Internet in particular, has been dumbed down for the masses to consume. We actually did lose the battle with the corporations, Google and the rest won. We are the losers.
>>47441743
>Nothing can stay fucked forever.
This has been a main point in my own thoughts for a while. Most of my life, really. Can something stay fucked forever? Does anything ever really change?
My answer has come to be yes and no. We never change. Our behaviors are augmented as technology develops (ie change as a function of perceived and actual affordance), a social are allowed a certain degree of change as a result of this base. You get shit like law and assorted delusions of higher authority whether in a religious or legal sense.
But ultimately, we don't change. The bigger picture is static, we move in the same maddening cycles over, and over, and over, again. As individuals, as groups, as societies, as a species. I've come to believe it doesn't matter. We're intrinsically broken and no matter what we do, every single thing we create, as long as we are a part of it, is built to fall apart. And it will. And we'll rebuild. And it'll become the same again in a new context. And it'll collapse, or we'll collapse it. And we'll make it again. And that's just the way of things.
We can't change. All this sci-fi. All this transhumanism, cyberpunk, whatever, it's all about this. Trying to change our consciousness enough so that we actually become something that works. So that we can expand our being to something that transcends this.
But I don't we can even with such things. There's just.... there's just somethin' about us.
>>47441792
With the rise of the Pirate party a bit everywhere in Europe and the EU, I'm still a bit hopeful things might get better.
I'm not sure how to change the situation in the good ol' US of A, seems like people resigned to the almighty god of money and wealth at this point.
Anyway, do you guys have any good cyberpunk tumblrs?
http://sink00.tumblr.com/
http://lastinfur.tumblr.com/
>>47441888
>20-30 years ago it kind of made sense, but now the vision of the future is not dictated by the users. It's all done by giant corporations like Google, Apple, Facebook, Microsoft, etc
haha what
how is that not cyberpunk
>>47441780
Likely because the current climate is conducive to a defeatist attitude.
Not that either of us can blame them. The situation is quite a bit grim. Doesn't mean you can't try to do something about it.
>>47441853
>Your thinking is a recipe for suicide at forty when you realize you've sold your soul and changed jack shit.
Mind expanding on this a bit?
>>47441780
>Seems like a lot of people are waiting for "the collapse" by just doing nothing.
There is nothing you can do. Tell me how to rein in the financial institutions, the banks and the multinational corporations with larger turnovers than many governments, and I'll join your cause.
No, wait, you can't. There is no point in curing your seasonal flu if you have small-cell carcenoma.
>>47441918
The cyberpunk scenario implies a resistance to the corporations. In reality there's none. We are past the cyberpunk and we lost the battle.
>>47441945
>small-cell carcenoma
I like subtleties. And it really is something that metastasizes everywhere until it's infected everything it has access to.
Can't wrap my head around the idea that as individuals or even a small collective, there's anything to be done but simply watch. No one has enough power to truly do anything even if you go all "I don't plan on walking out of this", there's no one thing that can be attacked through established channels or even non-standard means.
Really, anyone who thinks otherwise, I'll definitely listen to any ideas to the contrary.
>>47430995
>What happenned to us?
Marketing, phones and battlestations are indeed a problem. But make no mistake: /cpg/, itself, is cancer.
Thread quality implies quality of the content posted within. The content posted in cpg is fiction wankery and uniformed opinions.
>>47441945
To change the world, change yourself.
I don't buy the latest tech, I don't support "brands" or trends set by corporations. I cook my own food as far as is possible.
Get out of this consumerism craze, don't give them more money. Don't make threads about the apple watch or the latest samsung phone. Support people who are trying to change things. It's hard getting out of the comfort-zone at first but you'll feel so much better.
>>47441934
Pure-hearted idealists who get into the political game trying to change the system often compromise themselves in their efforts, and crash hard when they eventually realize the game reverts into its original corrupted form (or worse) the moment you stop/fail to act. Not only did they change nothing, but they contributed to the cancer they wanted to heal.
It's like some rapper put it
>You lose the moment you start believing what they're saying
He was talking about hustlers, but it works for politicians as well. They're just hustlers in a different income bracket.
If you are a "menace to society", then you'll know you are doing something right.
Even being a NEET is okay in that perspective. You're breaking the status quo.
>>47442025
>To change the world, change yourself.
Are you the person I replied to? Because you just did a complete 180.
Yeah, you can become the next post-Berkeley years Ted Kaczynski if you want, but you'll have negligible effect on society compared to the average trust fund kid making six figures, no matter if they vote or not.
>>47442022
How is that cancer? You cannot always get unformed opinions and high quality content, people have to start from somewhere. That applies to everything, not just cyberpunk or this particular thread.
>>47442022
>That image
Ugh. I'm in that state where I half feel like I have a migraine coming. People shouldn't just post shit like that.
>>47442076
edgy
>>47442087
>the next post-Berkeley years Ted Kaczynski
I'm not a luddite, I'm not against technology, far from it if that is was you're implying.
I'm saying, vote with your money if you're not going to vote in the political system.
>>47442122
>edgy
>at the forefront of a trend; experimental or avant-garde.
>>47442004
>And it really is something that metastasizes everywhere until it's infected everything it has access to.
>there's no one thing that can be attacked through established channels or even non-standard means.
Amen to that, brother. When no-one stands up for anything beyond personal gain, the 'bad guys' are just interchangeable units with no inherent value to the system.
>>47442148
1) you can't change other people (read: plebs will pleb as they have and they always will)
2) your money - or the absence of it - in the market place is completely irrelevant
3) FTR, I don't buy into that consumerist crap, but consumerism is just the flu, not the lung cancer
I actually do what you do, but I feel like you advocating it as a solution to the problem is mental masturbation, like driving a hybrid car or recycling.
>>47442033
Fucking hell, I'm having a really hard time responding to this. And I'm not even sure why.
>>47442223
What do you propose? I'm all ears, honestly.
>>47440049
>this guy again
HOW
>>47442258
That's the thing. I don't have a solution, I honestly believe our generation and the next are basically fucked. We're here to witness the downfall, but if we're "lucky", not the rock bottom.
Here's my plan
>make it into the upper class before social mobility hits its low point
>do NOT compromise yourself (contribute to the cancer) while doing that
>work to develop ways of circumventing/mitigating existing/future surveillance systems
I think we'll be able to have usable, secure communications channels in the future. But that's it.
>>47435394
>no bode-sata 10
>no hybrid jack 6.3mm terabit toslink
>no HP/DP 10.0
Why anon?
Honestly, I think we are nearing an era of bio-cyberpunk or something of the sort. Just the other day I was reading about new types of quantum sensors, one was an advanced form of quantum dot and the other one was using electronic spins in a diamond lattice to measure time-varying electromagnetic fields. We are soon going to be able to integrate seamlessly sensory systems with the human body, without any butchery at all, that can measure literally everything that's happening inside. It's time for the reverse engineering of the human body and then follows all the crazy stuff. I think people should focus a bit more on that rather than having nostalgia boners over dead tech and mediocre sci-fi.
>>47442373
>Here's my plan
that's awful cute, sweetie. now go fetch me a beer and a blowjob.
>>47442485
Great job, that's very original.
>>47441009
>Cyberpunk is dead
No, my friend cyberpunk now is reality and more obvious future developments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDsNZJTWw0w
>>47442533
so is "i will work within the system to effect change in a gradual fashion while also getting rich BUT NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO OR ANYTHING I JUST HAVE TO GET RICH SO PEOPLE TAKE ME SERIOUSLY I'M A MARTYR TO THE CAUSE REALLY I AM"
gramsci pls go
>>47442373
>make it into the upper class before social mobility hits its low point
technical skills, technical skills, technical skills
>ballmer.jpg
Even then, the pay will probably end up being kicked down in the coming years even if you are a l33t-n1nj4 at JavaShit
>work to develop ways of circumventing/mitigating existing/future surveillance systems
Good luck. They have years ahead of us and an almost unlimited bank account. You need super smart people to work for free to give us things we can't use to circumvent these, and those people have to work without expecting a dime. Then it has to be a clever enough solution to withstand attack from the other side of super smart people working for the surveillance state. That's a lot of burden for one or a small group.
>>47442373
I don't know Anon, that doesn't look like much of a plan.
In the grand scheme of things, surveillance is the least of my worries. Surveillance is just that, surveillance. Some people will have it used against them, even while being totally innocent but it doesn't change much for the rest of the population.
>we'll be able to have usable, secure communications channels in the future
Right now we have means of communicating freely (you're using it), yet no one uses it for anything worthwhile other than pushing their viral video and make some quick bucks with ads. You think it being "secure" will change anything?
What's worse is not having a future at all, eating crappy food, breathing polluted air, working yourself to death with nothing to look forward to other than some rehashed video game.
>>47442609
>i will work within the system to effect change in a gradual fashion
No, I don't believe I can change the system at all; that has consistently been my argument throughout the thread. How you concluded THAT from my posts is beyond me.
>while also getting rich BUT NOT BECAUSE I WANT TO OR ANYTHING I JUST HAVE TO GET RICH SO PEOPLE TAKE ME SERIOUSLY
Now you're just making stuff up. I explicitly explained my belief that shit's gonna hit the fan on a societal level and that I don't wish to be in the socioeconomic classes that get hit the hardest. I don't give two shits what people think about me.
>I'M A MARTYR TO THE CAUSE REALLY I AM"
Now you just went full retard.
>>47431560
This is like the nail on the coffin for this subject
>>47442685
>he thinks when shit hits the fan that the upper class and the rich won't be targeted
>>47442641
>Even then, the pay will probably end up being kicked down in the coming years even if you are a l33t-n1nj4 at JavaShit
You gotta go corporate to make it, son.
>it's impossibru to avoid the machine for free
Tell that to developers of OTR, PGP, Truecrypt, Tails, Tor, DarkMail etc. The infrastructure exists.
>>47442684
>I don't know Anon, that doesn't look like much of a plan.
What were the two first sentences in that post you replied to?
>In the grand scheme of things, surveillance is the least of my worries. Surveillance is just that, surveillance. Some people will have it used against them, even while being totally innocent but it doesn't change much for the rest of the population.
That's where you're wrong. The ability to communicate with others without the fear of instant retribution from the people in charge is essential for any non-dystopian society, particularly when shit hits the fan. If you cannot understand why, there is no point in continuing this conversation.
>Right now we have means of communicating freely (you're using it), yet no one uses it for anything worthwhile other than pushing their viral video and make some quick bucks with ads. You think it being "secure" will change anything?
Who says no-one is using it for anything worthwhile? Are you saying that monitoring hasn't already lead to self-censorship? Your statement is fallacious.
>What's worse is not having a future at all, eating crappy food, breathing polluted air, working yourself to death with nothing to look forward to other than some rehashed video game.
It's out of our hands either way.
>>47442767
>shit hits the fan =/= shit hits rock bottom
There's a grace period of corruption, gated communities and paramilitary forces that leech money off the rich for protection against the hordes of the hostile poor. Also, when you're rich, fleeing is an option.
>>47439713
I've got that cheapo RTL-SDR dongle you can buy for less than 10$ dollars. It's great; install any Linux, build your own antenna and you can catch nice stuff, satelites even.
So far I've caught CB radio transmissions and train transmissions. I'll also try using the SDR while travelling on an actual train.
>>47442767
>Implying the rich won't be able to protect themselves.
>>47442830
>>47442854
I'd rather be of the "stupid, poor masses" than live in a gated community with rich fucks eating plastic sushi while the world around them burns to the ground.
Complete disregard for the world.
>>47442861
>than live in a gated community with rich fucks eating plastic sushi while the world around them burns to the ground
How noble of you.
>Complete disregard for the world.
>implying there's something they could do at that point
>>47442343
optipng
>>47442896
>>>implying there's something they could do at that point
>implying they're not perpetrating the cycle that brought them to that point
It's like you're blind and just keep hitting the wall thinking it'll move out of the way one day.
