>yfw apple actually makes a "$1200 facebook machine"
I wonder why it's 1200
>>47077368
Because people will still buy it
>>47077362
It will be the new air come Skylake and /g/ will be telling everyone to 'just buy it' cause it's the best like they did with the current air in 2013 and 2014
>>47077395
The current Air is less than $1000.
>>47077368
Because they know the meme.
>>47077395
first thought when they announced it was 'im gonna buy the second generation of this so hard'
>>47077409
And once the design change is subsidized this generation, the price will fall too. They put so much money into the battery design, keyboard, and display that they need to recoup those costs fast. Considering this SoC platform can be reused for skylake and cannonlake they will start making a ton of money by just swapping in new gen chips with wireless charging (skylake) and ddr4 (cannonlake)
>>47077446
Then you up the front camera, improve Wi-Fi and improve the battery life. Then you make it slightly cheaper.
>>47077514
quintessential apple "R&D", kekd
>>47077362
Can it atleast run dota 2 at 60 fps?
>hey let's all laugh at these shitty overpriced Macs together
>why do people buy this shit lol
>I can't wait for my $150 60% keyboard with $50 keycaps to show up
>>47077368
Because there's so much in the device
>>47077708
nope
>>47077770
it's not so much overpriced as it is underpowered
>>47077362
>hey guise let's make the next MBA slower with worse battery life and increase the price by 30%
>>47077362
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZ8ek-6ccc
>>47077819
Being underpowered is the reason people consider it overpriced.
Apple is basically charging double for an iPad + keyboard.
>>47077942
>mfw everyone complained the surface keyboard was extra
well, looks like you all got your compulsory keyboard faggots. enjoy it
>>47077362
>>47077942
didn't someone also show that the cpu in this is SLOWER then the current ipad?
>>47077362
ITT: Frustrated poorfags who would rip OS X out and install Linux if they were given one of these beautiful laptops.
-t Windows user.
>>47077362
>mfw poorfags think $1200 is a lot of money
>>47077954
the sp3;
- is more powerful
- has more connectivity/ports
- has a docking station
- has a touchscreen
- costs less
- has a fullhd webcam
>>47078033
>>47078061
Apple users so mad their own company is cannibalizing itself that "I don't speak poor nigga" is their only like of defense.
>>47078033
>say that a 1200$ dollar tablet, with a keyboard and a (at least now) useless port, is overpriced
>poorfag
You can get a surface pro 3 or a better specked MBP or an other laptop.
>>47078033
i would sell it without even opening it
it looks alright, but i don't see it being very useful compared to any other laptop
>>47078077
It is a defense though. I need Windows apps. If I were some kind of normie, I would just use OS X.
>>47078083
>surface pro 3
That's what I'm getting.
>>47078086
Looking nice had value. It's the reason so many girls are out of your league :^)
>>47077446
DDR4 will come with Skylake won't it?
Apple invents
First laptop with Force Click
>>47077395
The current Air isn't bad for an Ultrabook.
Why not include a 1tb ssd?
>>47078061
Its a lot of money when you consider what you get in exchange.
Just because you can afford something doesn't mean its worth the cash.
>>47078061
1200$ for a surface isn't much money.
1200$ for a pile of horseshit is much money.
No go back to your mom kid.
>>47077362
step one: take apart iphone 6
step two: stick guts into laptop shell
step three: ????????????Batteries
step four: profit
>>47078460
catering to their extremely shallow, stupid userbase
>>47078460
>Soccer mom/dad/other (to avoid politically correct trolling) wants a laptop
>Hears that "Microsoft gets viruses"
>Goes to Apple
>Sees a shiny gold thing or a somewhat bland looking thing with 'Pro' in the title
>Is not a 'Pro' so spends spouse's money on shiny gold thing
Pretty straight forward really
>>47078460
>Costs as much as a fuking ThinkPad W550s
>>47078460
>thinness
Well it also has 15 hours of battery life while only being 2 pounds....so there's that.
But still, I think Apple would have been better off to make this generation cheaper, maybe make not as much money, and then when they can subsidize the cost later like >>47077446 said, people won't be salty that their first gen lightweight ipad/macbook cost so much compared to the newer gen.
This doesn't help their image much either making such an overpriced macbook, even if it cost a lot for them to design it.
>>47078460
that their customer base care more for thinness that performance.
they're right.
>>47078575
3K, Multitouch, & IPS
This is going to be more powerful than the current generation of Macbook Airs. It's also going to be the best ultraportable in the second generation.
Calling it.
>>47078637
>which is absolute shit
explain?
What is this new MacBook even called?
There's the MacBook Air, MacBook Pro...what is it's name??
>>47078649
"MacBook 2015" i believe
it looks like they've merged macbook (non-pro) and macbook air product lines
>>47078711
>2880x1620 = workarea of 1440x810.
You are literally retarded.
>>47078711
so essentially it's enough for a screen to be not exactly like in another product to call it 'absolute shit'? you're a retard, son.
>>47078711
>workarea of 1440x810
>>47078620
lol well at least you'll get the full 9 hours because it's too weak to use any more power.
>>47078810
>In before you mention Windows and its horrible arbitrary scaling that breaks 90% of your applications.
Excuse me for ignoring your inb4, but you're lying/don't know what you're talking about. Windows 200% scaling doesn't brake shit.
>kde/gnome/unity
People use Windows to get things done, no one is gonna tinker with this hobbyist trash on his workstation.
>>47078033
GNU/Linux
>>47078810
>A work area smaller than 1440x900
It's more space than 720p and 200k more pixels than the regular laptop res of 1366x768.
1080p has 2,073,600 pixels.
>>47078887
>Windows 200% scaling doesn't brake shit.
Issues that people have on high dpi are blurry fonts with Windows scaling. I assume you use high dpi to be talking about this right?
>>47078746
it has even less vertical resolution than a regular screen. you're the retard, son.
>>47078960
that's what I was going to say, but I didn't want an argument, so I deleted it from my comment.
>>47078810
>scaling in the first place
Why would I spend the extra money on a high resolution screen only to purposely fuck it up by making everything fuck hueg and waste the space only to be left with the exact same thing I could have had for a lower cost?
>>47079087
Look at the Macbook Pro 13. It has a 2560x1600 screen. By Apple's OWN ADMISSION the Retina (high PPI if you didn't catch that) looks looks like 1280x800. Why would I spend the extra money to waste my extra screen real estate?
>>47079121
i don't understand how people like you exist
>>47078156
not m-version
whats the specs of it anyways? a fucking hd4500?
>>47079390
1.2 and 1.3 GHz CPU for each tier. Boost clocks to like 1.8 and 1.9 GHz.
HD5500
>>47077362
What are you talking about anon they already have like 4.
>2015 and people still think CPU baseclock determines overall performance
For a product you autists claim to hate, you sure do love talking about it every chance you get.
>>47078061
A couple hundred isn't either, but it's a lot for a 12-pack of hot dogs.
>all these deleted posts
What happened?
>>47079507
so a $400 computer
>>47077780
Is that seriously the internals?
>>47079649
Yes. Why is that a bad thing?
>>47078590
it doesnt
it has 9 hours which worse than the macbook air and retina macbok pros
btw wtf did apple do to make the new macbooks NOT get better battery life?
>>47077362
>2015
>>47079676
It's a waste, if you have space use it
>>47077708
A dual core 1ghz processor running anything
>>47079528
we already have products with the same (or similar) cpus
we already know that they perform like shit
>>47079649
>>47079676
>well-insulated raspberry pi surrounded by batteries
The swelling will be beautiful
>>47079691
They shoved batteries in all the space. Best of luck using this for anything other than web browsing.
>>47079691
They did use it, for batteries.
>>47079649
Not including the battery or keyboard.
>>47079704
http://bgr.com/2015/03/16/macbook-release/
“There seems to be a general consensus that Core M equates slow, but clearly this is not the case. For some sustained workloads, yes, the 4.5 watt TDP limits how much performance you are going to get from the CPU, but for many tasks, especially short burst loads, the performance of the 5Y71 is very competitive, often outperforming the Haswell Core i5-4200U from last year’s Yoga 2 Pro. This says a tremendous amount about the Intel 14 nm process, because the IPC improvements of Broadwell vs Haswell are fairly limited. Clearly the CPU has quite a bit of headroom on the 14 nm process to keep the clock speeds up.”
>>47077968
i was lurking 4 that image 4 todays match, thanks anon,
>>47077395
>mfw i thought this was a The Lorax reference
>mfw that's actually a great analogy
>>47079691
the rest is batteries and ssd's. even then it still get meh battery life. they probably omitted the fan to get the most out of the batt
>>47079566
The poster noticed how fuckin dumb his scaling theory was.
>>47077780
Core M smartphones when
>>47079723
so you can launch a program or two before it starts throttling
this is wonderful, greatest invention 2015
>>47079746
pls explain
>>47079691
It's used by batteries. Do you seriously think it's empty like that?
>>47079699
It's starting to sound a lot like Apple's OS engineers were too incompetent to make a lightweight OS that runs on Apple's ARM and has multi-tasking (something like Windows RT). So instead they make a super expensive, lightweight Macbook that can run their desktop OS, which you can't do anything with because the CPU is useless with a huge desktop OS.
Sounds like Steve Jobs plan backfired when he wanted to simplify everything. Either that, or Apple is starting to lose the vision of Steve Jobs and don't know how to come up with any good anymore.
>>47079714
but thats all people nowadys do, gramps
>>47078171
The BlackBerry storm invented force click
>>47079760
Well the kind of people who buy this shit aren't exactly the brightest sparks. Most consumers of this will spend 80% of their time at least just in safari. From that standpoint it makes sense for apple to shill them a product that can do that for as much time as possible, for as higher price as possible.
>>47079792
So why are we talking about it? Why are so many review sites wasting their time talking about it if it's not geared to anyone reading about it?
>leaves this thread
>>47079760
it was never intended to perform miracles you idiot.
Why do you autists insist on rating products based on tasks they were never intended to do?
For someone who has a dedicated desktop, or perhaps even a more powerful laptop, and is looking for something lightweight and mobile for internet/office work why is this such a bad choice? Because you know, that is what its intended use is.
If you're not interested in, or can't justify the price of this product, then simply do not buy it. I don't understand what the big deal is.
>>47079766
>2880x1620 = workarea of 1440x810.
This was basically his theory. Implying everyone scales up if he has a higher ppi display.
>>47079814
I think it's the blatantness of it which is why it's being discussed. Most other laptops on the market are more capable machines and serve about as well as each other as general purpose computers. This is such remarkable pandering to the spoonfed netbabby generation that, if it takes of, will be another nail in the coffin of powerful personal computing.
We are basically living through the transition back to dumb terminals, which is interesting but imo kinda sucks. The macbook really isn't anything of note though, I agree.
>>47079834
The "simple computer for simple people doing simple things" argument only goes so far.
If it were that then it would be far less expensive. Why does it cost just as much as Apple's pro line of laptops then? If it's 'just designed for simple things'.
>>47079753
Most upper level arm are better than core m
>>47079767
I figured there would be batteries, I'm asking where the everything else is
It looks like the circuit board of a phone
>>47079973
The price point is purely because they can and people expect it. If they didn't charge as much a lot of the demographic would lose respect for the line and see it as too attainable - like any other brand. It's cleverly marketed as aspirational.
>>47080055
Nope, that's it.
>tfw I'll be getting it because the 12" masterrace Apple notebook has returned
>>47077362
>Facebook machine
That's what Linux is. Linux has no commercial software. It's a fucking toy for desktop use.
Apple is just a social experiment by now.
>>47080098
Same, I think I'll replace my 2012 13" MBA with the 2nd gen. version of this
>>47080085
But surely people will see the air and pro being more for less and say "well I'll just get that instead"...?
I mean apple wins either way...
>>47080106
If you really believe this you have never actually done any type of server, networking, vm, storage, computing type of application. What are you even doing on /g/? Shit posting in amd vs nvidia threads?
>>47080131
They aren't the new hyped thing though I guess. More for less really goes against apple users mentality I think and yeah you're right, either way apple has a customer.
>>47077362
>taking money from fools
>actually a bad thing
>>47080146
A lot of the time I really hope posts like that are bait but I'm never sure if there isn't some spastic at the other end who genuinely can't understand software.
>>47077362
>tfw know applefag
>tells me the specs of the new macbook
>tell him it sounds SHIT
>b-but consumers don't care
>1.1/1.2Ghz processor in a fucking LAPTOP
>1 USB port and 1 headphone jack requiring hubs out the ASS
>consumers don't care
If people actually buy this, I give up.
>>47080289
>still thinking clock speed is relevant
>>47080325
When it's that shit, yes it is.
Surely a Facebook machine would have a better webcam? You know, for selfies and stuff.
>>47080289
>waah muh performance
>laptop
Yeah, you're retarded.
>>47080388
You can literally get the same specs in a tablet and at least twice the amount of power in any other laptop.
>>47077362
>mfw Google has been making a $1300 Facebook machine for the past two years and is about to release a revision in 2015 for the same price
>>47080421
I'm not saying you can't, what I'm saying is you're stupid for caring.
>>47080388
>>47080442
>shilling this hard
>>47080454
I'm not shilling for any specific laptop, just saying that if you want power in a portable form factor you're either stupid or have a niche use case. Either way this is the general consumer model, not higher end business, so it wouldn't be the laptop for you. You're basically bitching to bitch because something that's not made to appeal to you doesn't appeal to you.
>>47080495
I didn't know the "general consumer" was a polio patient with wasted muscles.
>all these deleted posts in this thread
Are the new janitors applefags or what?
>>47080430
The new pixel is 1000$, also "facebook machine" means shit specs. If you consider pixel a "facebook machine" you are retarded.
>>47077362
In 5 years NEET /g/tards will be buying these secondhand on fleabay and shouting from the rafters "WERKS 4 MY NEEDS".
Mark my fucking words. The only reason /g/ doesn't like Apple products is they can't afford it.
>muh clockspeed
Can't we just focus on it's shitty price point and sacrificial design instead of sounding like the mouth breathing fucktards Intel made millions off of during the NetBurst era?
>>47080736
/g/ collectively hates Apple because they're hipsters, not because they're poor.
>>47080736
Even the 2007 Macbooks on Ebay are still overpriced for what they are.
but damn does it run facebook well
>>47077368
A dozen big ones anon.
>>47080910
How much do they go for? I bought an '09 MacBook for $5 from the recycler and have no idea what to do with it
>>47077770
$200 for a mechanical keyboard
Take out $500 for the ipad and the new apple keyboard costs $700 (it's not even mechanical)
>>47080724
What can you do with the Pixel exactly? Is it the 32GB SSD, or the 4GB of RAM?
>>47080933
Give it to me. I'll give you $10.
>>47080872
>hipsters
>Hating apple
Aren't hipsters the only retards that buy crapple shit?
>>47077780
that's literally a tablet
>>47077780
That little board would of been the size of a small warehouse a few decades ago.
>>47079714
implying macfags ever did anything else
>>47080724
It's a Facebook machine by virtue of the damn OS.
>>47081018
Underage. Do you even know what a laptop in the 1980s looks like?
So when's Lenovo copying it? I actually want one but with a passable keyboard.
>>47081055
Did google block installing linux on it?
>>47081077
Never because they already make thinner devices with multiple full sized ports, Core i series processors, better battery life and lower price.
>>47081018
even a 1985 commodore lcd laptop had more ports
>>47077362
\int_a^b \! f(x)\,dx = F(b) - F(a).
>>47080724
This, seriously.
In fact, it's even worse. You're buying a $1000 google search device with even worse data protection than a regular laptop.
>>47081170
Do they make one charged though USB-C, weighing in at under 1kg?
Find me a laptop with one single USB-C port for all its physical connectivity (including charging) and a tablet CPU for less than $1300.
Protip: You can't, LOL.
Get rekt.
>>47081300
>implying anyone would want it
>>47077780
Are you guys so technically retarded that you don't understand that smaller is better, more expensive, and harder to accomplish?
I'm not a mac guy but these threads are embarrassing and expose a basic lack if understanding of technology and good trolling.
>people suggesting this for web browsing
Modern web pages are fucking heavy.
>>47081660
Sure smaller is better in some cases but I don't think it's $1,200 better especially for specs that should cost $200.
>>47082026
Oh tell me where I can get a laptop with a 2304x1440 IPS screen for $200?
>>47082048
Ok so I wasn't including the price for the screen in that $200. So your saying that the screen warrants the price increase from $200 to $1,200 when you can buy a desktop monitor that's twice the resolution and ips for $800?
>>47077780
that is pretty damn impressive
>>47082162
>laptop parts are more expensive than desktop parts
Holy shit!
>>47082326
how is cellphone hardware the size of a cellphone impressive?
>>47081001
It's easily the most mainstream technology company in the first world.
>>47081018
maybe in 1965
>>47077362
>>47081508
>mfw
>>47082355
>a 2k screen costs 1,000 dollars because it's a laptop part
It doesn't matter that it's a desktop part. Its still more than 2 times the resolution of the new macbook screen for $200 cheaper.
>>47082413
>imblying the entire consumer laptop market comprises of /g/
>>47082413
logos linux on a mac?
Why didn't they instead improve the Macbook Air?
Keep the thickness because who ever complained about the Macbook Air being too thick?
Keep the great keyboard.
Add the new touchpad.
Make the screen bezels thinner.
Give it a retina screen.
Use the same kind of batteries as in the new Macbook to compensate for the higher res display.
And release a black or space grey version of it.
>>47082413
seen that coming hours ago tbh
>>47082588
Using decent hardware would mean lower profit margins, goy
>>47082538
who the fuck are you quoting
>>47077362
why aren't people happy about this?
it's a sign that apple is returning to the same shitty profit margin goals they pursued in the '80s, and this time there's no Jobs or Microsoft to bail them out when it inevitably fucks them in the ass.
>>47082048
>>47082545
>>47082355
Oh wait I didn't even realize that it's even lower than 1440p. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009613&cm_re=1440p_ips-_-24-009-613-_-Product
So that extra $550 compared to this monitor and which is already subtracting the cost of the specs ($200) of the new macbook is because it's a laptop part or because Apple twinkled their magic dust on it to make it somehow better?
>>47082362
size doesn't matter it's how you use it :^)
>>47082545
Are PCIe 256GB SSDs that cheap, because last time I checked you would pay more than $200 just for the SSD.
I'm not the guy you're replying to, and I'm not defending the MacBook, but I hate this autistic logic of "hurr every applel product is $1000 overpriced", because its simply not true. Sure, they are expensive, but ignorant one sided shit slinging is just as bad as apple shills.
>>47081660
Transistors are probably as small as they're gonna get right now.
>>47082373
top kek
>>47080181
Name one thing windows does better than Linux that isn't gaming or photoshop.
>>47080910
You are a NEET /g/tard.
>>47080872
/g/ is on autismbucks and therefore cannot afford good quality hardware nor operating systems, hence the proliferation of 10 year old thinkpads and *nix
>>47082727
Ya I completely forgot about ssd but you can buy a 250 gb ssd for $120 dollars now. It still doesn't change the fact that this thing has similar specs to an Acer C7 Chromebook which was sold at retail a year ago for $200. The only thing to even justify the price is the higher res ips screen and the ssd which still doesn't seem anywhere near $1,200.
>>47082826
Then find a laptop that offers the same for a significantly less price. A laptop, not a shitbook and an external monitor.
>>47080442
>why do you care bro? it's only 600-800 extra dollars more than similar performing competitor laptops
>Thinkpad? Bro, tell me you're joking, you can't possibly use that.
>It looks like shit, just shell out the extra 700 or 800 bucks for pure aesthetics and stop caring about stupid shit like "cost efficient performance", like seriously bro? What does that even mean?
>>47082814
you can buy old apple shit for about the same price as the old thinkpads, and it's not like we don't know how to pirate
nonetheless /g/'s obsession with thinkpads and other corporate gear that no normie unironically uses makes me fucking kek every time some mouthbreather whines about apple being "for hipsters" when this place is literally the most hipster tech community on the internet
t. guy you replied to
>>47082844
What's the point of having such a beautiful display attached to such piece of shit hardware?
Why would you want such a horrible combo?
>>47083035
>you can buy old apple shit for about the same price as the old thinkpads
this is what thinkpadfags actually believe
enjoy your massive depreciation
>>47077362
Have you seen the benchmarks for the M processor?
They get the same scores as the i5 mobile processors.
It is actually exciting what they can do with 5 watts.
I can't wait to see the next generation of ultrabooks.
>>47083050
I just bought a fully functional 2008 MacBook out of a shopping cart for $5. They hold their value a little longer but ultimately they're the same piece of shit
>>47083072
>gen 2 and 3 i5 mobile processors
The fucking i5 4300u rekts the 5Y10 nad uses 14w
The core M is almost as powerful as a gen 4 U i3 wich is a shame in terms of performances but really good for fanless tablets and ultrabooks, unlike the surface pros
>>47077362
I already have a rMBP, and I'm buying this to be my Facebook/Starbucks machine.
Fuck you poor bastards
>>47083263
So if I don't buy something that I don't need I'm a poor bastard ?
>>47083072
Not very impressive considering it uses a Turbo Boost to 2.6GHz, which will not run for a significant amount of time in real-world situations due to thermal throttling. Still, it's not bad for 5W, but not groundbreaking.
