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http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/15/8218215/microsoft-windows-10-updates-p2p

Based Microsoft.
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What the fuck
Looks like I wont install it
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>>47042166
Why not bb?
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>>47042184
Because I don't want to waste my upload with such bullshit
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>>47042142
That's actually pretty interesting.
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>>47042194
You can disable it though.

>>47042221
Ikr
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>>47042142
>Microsoft found a way to cut bandwidth of their own servers
Good for them
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>>47042241
Come to think of it. I wonder why isn't Linux doing the same thing.
Sure it raises some privacy issues, but that wouldn't be that hard to make.

It's cool to see that Microsoft is stepping up their game. That and the FLOSS package manager it will ship it are making me kinda excited for it despite it being closed source for the most part.
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Why would anyone willingly and knowingly download a Microsoft OS?
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>>47042241
This is only for downloading, what about uploading your already downloaded update? Where is the option to disable that? Because it looks like it is enabled by default
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>>47042265
Cause not everyone is a freetard.
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>>47042293
I assume that if you disable downloading updates from pc's on the internet then they also won't be able to download from you.

>>47042265
Nice meme my friend. Here is your reply.
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>>47042340
But it's not stated
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>>47042351
I agree with this guy. However MS is not Google, so I expect them to actually allow you to change default behaviour.
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>>47042358
Just like the windows 8 start menu was optional, right?
>>47042293
lel
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>>47042358
That's what I always liked about M$, and that's why I use KDE.
A shame WP still worse than android in this regard (but better than ios)

Go MSFT!
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Good change.

Uploads among consumers is an untapped resource.
Surprising that smaller projects don't do this more.

But for MS it enables simple LAN transfers. Which is a big win. Don't have to rely on proxy storage for updates.
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>theverge

based shill bro
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Windows is now literarily is a botnet, there's no denying.
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>>47042437
http://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-future-updates-can-be-delivered-via-p2p

>>47042452
epin
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How do I enable this in Ubuntu?
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>>47042431
>Surprising that smaller projects don't do this more.
This. I'm kinda surprised linux distroes don't do that already.
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>>47042555
Install gentoo
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>>47042262
>FLOSS package manager it will ship

Que?
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>>47042431
>Surprising that smaller projects don't do this more.
Because "Why is this shit running in the background and uploading shit?"
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>>47042555
>windows preview build is already miles ahead of all linux distros
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Will this work with Windows Phones too?
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>>47042582
http://www.howtogeek.com/200334/windows-10-includes-a-linux-style-package-manager-named-oneget/

>>47042633
>>windows preview build is already miles ahead of all linux distros
The Package manager isn't in yet, so for now, not really.
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>>47043152
naisu
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>>47043152

package managers are shit anyways.. i like to have control over how I install my programs
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>>47043217
You can use package managers to acquire the source and compile it yourself.

You can download a binary package and install it.

It's just another alternative.
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>>47043217
>centralized dependency checking/resolving tools are shit anyways... i like to manually download installers from dubious sources every week to run the installation process again. i also enjoy forgetting critical updates, and updating my path manually when upgrading tools that I used often from the command line

If you're not using package manager to keep your production environment up to date you're a dumbass and you're wasting your time.
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>>47042142
What do you win by installing your closed-source software from other people? What do you win by having an open package manager to distribute closed-source software. It seems just using the buzzwords people want to hear as a fucking placebo.
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>>47043378
Microsoft wins when people share updates p2p, takes load off their server.

What do you win by having a package manager? Assuming it's done correctly and the repos are safe, you save a lot of time when you don't have to search for the correct architecture package for your OS from the author's website. It also makes updating your software much easier.
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>>47042265
Retards.
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>>47042142
Does this mean one computer within a network can update and all of the others will use it to update without using my internet package's bandwith?

That'd actually be pretty cool.
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>>47042142
I'm sure there will be no exploits to come from this.
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>>47043946
That would be neat to have the answer to that question. Maybe the new releases of Windows Server will include a way to do something like this for private networks.

This line of reasoning is closer to the traditional way big companies and universities run linux package repository mirrors.
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>>47042142
>Based Microsoft
How is that based ? They're just getting the load of their servers to their clients
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GREAT for fucking IT guys.
Bad for people who live in shitty countries with shitty upload speed and data caps, luckily Im not one of those poor bastards, still will disable/block that shit.
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>p2p updates
>IE turning into a halfway decent browser with good security
>fucking built-in package manager, finally
>the only company making VR that isn't a Rift-clone, even though their OS will be compatible with it
>that cool as hell looking design
Is Microsoft... actually innovating? And doing it well?

Maybe Rob Pike was right after all.
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BOTNET
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>>47044017
Fuck these guys.
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>>47044728
That's not innovation, that's catching up with the rest of the market.
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This is actually cool but I bet some faggots will figure out some way to exploit leading to malware being spread p2p
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>>47044818
>This is actually cool but I bet it will be made by a bunch of curry people faggots thus making in insecure and full of security holes making it easy for anyone with two working brain cells to exploit it leading to malware being spread p2p
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>>47044817
The only there that's "catching up" is the built-in package manager, you silly goose. Even then, it's only catching up with GNU/Linux distros. OSX still doesn't have a built-in package manager, despite having more of a unix/bsd base than Windows.
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>>47044728
>p2p updates
Oh boy, I sure would love Windows update taking up bandwith for nothing. Why not also mine Buttcoins for Microsoft with my idle CPU time?

>IE
>good security
you guys are fags, IE is still the most insecure piece of shit, nothing has changed except of Microsoft sugar-coating it with a little bit of useless snakeoil.

>Is Microsoft... actually innovating? And doing it well?
Most of the "new features" like workspaces and package managers were already part of other operating systems 15 years ago. The other new features are useless crap.

>VR
See above, put that shit into the XBox if you want not on a computer.

>that cool as hell looking design
Its horrible.
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>>47044728
Microsoft never stopped innovating, you just weren't paying attention, they're the lead innovators in unified communications.
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>>47044838
Why does microsoft hire so many india niggers?
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>>47044818
How the fuck is this cool? It's just Microsoft's jew ass shifting the bandwidth costs to the customers.
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>>47044912
>>47044957
You do realize the default is LAN only right?
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I wonder how they're doing checksums.

inb4 md5
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>>47044846
>everyone is doing VR shit now, even Valve
>Microsoft want people to actually use IE again
>muh flat design
They're borrowing ides left and right to stay relevant (and apparently hiring smart people in order to stay alive too).
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>>47045002
SHA, like everything else Microsoft.
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>>47044942
Because
>muh diversity
>muh "cheap" "qualified" workforce
>everyone is quitting them for Google
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>>47044942
It doesn't, per capita they hire many more Japanese.
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[botnet intensifies]

wait

many universities block P2P traffic

holy shit this could be a hilarious catastrophy
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>>47045055
>holy shit this could be a hilarious catastrophy
How so?
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>>47045013
>hiring smart people in order to stay alive
thats every company on the planet
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>>47044986
>the defaults for the technical preview will be carried on until the real release
>cortana is also off by default
Maybe it's off right now because it's not really working.
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>>47045061
Apparently that's a trick they're just learning now.
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>>47045058
when i was in college ALL P2P traffic was blocked, and you could get in trouble for trying to do it. that means when win10 rolls out I assume that loads of people will not only not be able to use their internet in their dorms but they'll be behind on updates, and vulnerable to exploits
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>>47045058

Win 7 Update already takes an hour to download a gigabyte of updates on my 50 Mbps connection. It's only going to get worse AND/OR use my fucking internet connection against my will whenever it wants.
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I already get max speed pulling them from MS servers so this is inherently useless for me.
I'm assuming they want to save bandwidth to shunt it all into azure.
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>>47045013
>the only company making VR that isn't a Rift-clone, even though their OS will be compatible with it
Why did you even post?
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>>47043946
They've had that for a quite a while, WSUS. You store the updates locally and distribute them to the lan to prevent every single workstation on the network making the exact same individual download from ms thus wasting bandwidth for everyone.
The key difference here seems to be it's gone full botnet tier over the wan instead of just locally.
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>all these posts from people who will download or pirate an OS from a p2p site
>but complain about having the option to update their OS over a p2p system
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Doesn't that mean some ISP is going to try to fuck you because:
>lel you are using p2p, that means piracy
Like the guys with Starcraft or DOTA or some game?
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>>47042241
>text-strings almost above the radio-buttons
WHAT THE FUCK AAAAAH OCD KICKING IN
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>>47043152
>>47042262

Just because it's Linux-style doesn't mean that it's FLOSS. Please do not spread disinformation.
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>>47044942
The CEO is one.
Resistance is futile.
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>>47045186
>pirate
>a free operating system

Yeah, nyukka, watch me pirate Ubuntu.
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>>47045542
But it is.
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>>47045542
You are retarded, please kill yourself.

https://github.com/OneGet/oneget
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>>47043982
this. this has the potential to be a huge fucking disaster. everyone updating better hope to hell that there is good file verification in place because you can bet there will be people attempting to send malicious code
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>>47045575
The piracy referred to Windows, anon.
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what are they gonna do about places where p2p is blocked?
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>>47045933
>>47043982
Peer-to-peer filesharing is perfectly safe, you dipshits. You guys sound like my grandma.

>Stop!! Don't download Mambo No. 5 for me from that filesharing site, it's probably a virus hacker!! you never know with those things!! Just buy it on iTunes, ABC News told me torrenting was dangerous!
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>>47045992
yeah, half-assed p2p updaters have never been exploited before
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>>47046115
>didn't u watch the fox news anon, those hackers blew up a van!!

I hope you uninstalled your torrent client dude, that shit's dangerous for you and everyone knows it's been exploited before.
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>>47045900
Is this like how Apple took in third party programs for their OS a few decades ago?
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>microsoft too cheap to pay for their own update servers
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>>47046427
This
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>>47046427
Bad goy! It's a feature.
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>get access to microsoft's private key
>write some malware and sign it with their key
>distribute malware as an "update"
>???
>profit!
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>>47045993
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>>47045993
looks worse than lollipop
intentionally bad
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>>47046894
>intentionally bad
you think?
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>>47042194
filthy leecher
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>>47045974
like they always did
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