How decent do you think the new macbook 12" will be for mobile programming?
Worse than a Surface® Pro© 3™ in every way.
>>47033257
>macshit
>good for anything
Pick one.
>Tablet CPU
>gaming
top kek
>>47033257
>mobile pro gaming
>>47033327
erm
what?
>>47033327
>>47033345
I think you two might have dyslexia..
That says programming, as in coding, not gaming.
>>47033281
I don't see what you're trying to say here. Are you saying the SP3 is shit for programming?
>>47033327
>>47033345
>>>/v/
>>47033257
I'm pretty sure it'll be able to run a text editor just fine.
>>47033257
I doubt it'll be fast enough to even boot
Might as well get a 150$ walmart laptop and install your favorite distro on it.
>>47033303
/thread
About as well as a $100 x86 tablet.
>>47033257
If by mobile you mean Starbucks, and by programming you mean liking on Facebook, then it'll be decent.
>>47033257
It's as good as a much less expensive Toshiba Chromebook 2 but without any USB ports.
>>47033257
It will be interesting to see how well Yo Semite runs on that shit, when people had complaints regarding it running like shit even on newer macbooks.
>>47033257
i hate mac keyboards. I know it's matter of getting used to it, but i hate everything in those keyboards, from click and height to fn key in ctrl place - i would rather die in a fire than write a lot of text on it.
>le thinness innovation that only applel can achieve because we use a new connector!
>>47033257
>Buying a gutted MBA
>When literally everything out on the market out performs it
>For 500 dollars less
>>47033465
>RGBW pentile shit
>5 hours of web browsing battery life
>extremely huge footprint, it's fucking bigger than my 14 inch laptop
What a piece of shit.
>>47033465
Why would I want to buy one laptop over another just because it's thinner? I don't get this advertising.
>>47033465
Why is a 0.3mm difference shown as like 20% thinner with those lines.
About the same as the much better UX305 that has 1/2 the price tag, and real 3X real USB 3.0 ports.
>>47033497
It's about not feeling like you're carrying around a computer.
throw it in your bag like a paper notebook..chuck it around without care because it's probably SSD. etc
>>47033488
>When literally everything out on the market out performs it
>For 500 dollars less
Such as? Because I want to buy them if they have the same long battery life like macs and really are better in every way.
>>47033490
Seriously this. Fuck the Macbook.
>>47033524
He's talking about some cheap 5lb acer 1366x768 shit that lasts 2 hours on battery.
>>47033257
It's a fucking toy, remember that RC car from your childhood? Yeah the one you had to charge after 10 minutes of driving it around.
>>47033523
But how is .3 mm going to make a difference there? Both of them are so small they're going to "not feel like I'm carrying around a computer", so I don't understand why I would want to buy it just because it's a little bit thinner.
>>47033565
You buy it because you don't have to carry around a shitty $80 adapter just to use a USB drive.
>>47033587
They have usb c flash drives faglord.
>>47033587
So why aren't they advertising that, instead of trying to convince me I should buy it because it's .3 mm thinner?
>>47033257
>shallow keyboard
>mac
Not that good.
>>47033565
You probably wouldn't. His point was just that mac acts like they're the only ones that can make a thin laptop.
At that point you'd care more about weight, battery life, build quality / feel.
>>47033565
>>47033587
btfo
>>47033600
It'll perform about the same as this, except with less functionality, ports, and thinness.
>>47033711
>1920x1080
Is this 2008?
>>47033744
Then you can wait 1 month and get the 3200x1800 version that's still $300 less than the MacPleb.
>>47033711
>$850
>no fans
>core M
>shift wifi
>246GB what the fuck
>all-aluminum
No, seriously, why. You might as well buy a second-hand mac and wipe the hard drive and install your favorite distro on it. If you don't want a mac, why would you spend money on something that has all the same design flaws?
>>47033744
>sub 3K
Is this 2010?
>>47033811
>pentile
>>47033811
>muh quad
Is this 2006?
>>47033821
>ebin maymays
Anyone who says the Core M has bad performance doesn't know SHIT about technology.
they'll be PERFECT for programming!
I heard on Friday that the company I work for will standardize on them as the laptop for almost everyone. You will still have an option of getting rMBP, however, if you need it. But most will go with this new MBA.
>>47033872
>new MBA
Do you mean the updated MacBook Air or the new MacBook?
>>47033790
>all aluminum
no need for a fan its built like cookware, all the heat will be radiated out into you and to the food you are cooking with it
>>47033513
Because faggots like the ones ITT so easily fall for false advertising like this. Also because jews.
>>47033872
>>47033895
>MBA
Do you mean the new macbook air or this new 12" macbook?
The one in OP is not the air. Apple is just calling it the "Macbook." 12 inch, retina displace, M, USB-C, etc
It is a different series from the updated Air.
>>47033912
Have you used an all aluminum laptop before?
I am never going back to plastic. The fullmetal cases feel phenomenal and they don't heat up like you're implying.
>>47033427
I've never used a Mac, but I honestly think getting rid of the ports and consolidating all of them into one multi-use port was a solid design decision. I know I'll catch shit for it though, and I know people like to take any opportunity to shit on Apple.
When you're at home or work, you should be doing your work on your desktop while your laptop is plugged in and charging. When you're out, you've got 10 hours of battery life or so and can use the port to plug in your USB drives or phone. Your laptop shouldn't attempt to replace your desktop at home, it should be something you use while you're out, and focused on portability and battery life.
>>47033843
How does the Core M it compare to the i5-2500k?
I don't know enough about the class Core M is in to understand that benchmark. But my desktop uses the i5.
>>47033978
Core M gets a PassMark score of ~3000, i5-2500k gets a score of ~6500.
Both are more than enough for programming.
>>47034085
Passmark is utterly meaningless across generations and desktop/mobile. My 3900 passmark Gen 2 i3-2100 dual core shits all over my laptop 8000 passmark i7-4700MQ quad core while plugged in and on performance mode.
Keyboard looks like shit. Probably to no use for a programmer. I.e. no end, bome pgup etc
Shit layout
>>47034163
>not using vim or emacs
That aside, it does have them:
fn+up arrow=PgUp
fn+down arrow=PgDn
fn+left arrow=Home
fn+right arrow=End
>>47033257
It'll be fine, nobody said it can't be used.
It's just it's even more overpriced than how overpriced Apple shit usually is.
So, this is a new level of overpricing and marketing stunts.
>>47033257
I'm actually pretty curious how the keyboard feels.
>>47034326
>It's just it's even more overpriced than how overpriced Apple shit usually is.
It's always like that with the new form factors. They get the people who need the newest thing no matter what and pay off the production lines, then things become cheaper.
The macbook is going to replace the air in a a couple years, mark my words.
>>47034163
If you use vim like a real man, you don't ever need to leave the home row.
>>47033978
It has maybe 10-20% of the performance, 25% at absolute best.
>>47034326
Its price isn't because of the retina display?
>>47033843
>uses sunspider as a benchmark
>calls other people ignorant
>>47035269
Well I bet Apple would list
>256GB SSD,
>8GB RAM
>retina display
>X hours of battery life
>sooo thin
>waterproof aluminium enclosure
>revolutionary product
as arguments for pricing it like that.
>>47035791
I don't get why people are making a big deal over it being waterproof, it's not as if it's the first ever waterproof laptop.
>>47035830
b-but now apple did it, so it's so innovative and revolutionary
>netbook
>programming
Just get an 13-inch rMBP.
>>47035949
>13-inch rMBP
I might have to. That's what I use for work and I love it, but it's the $3600 version.
I could get a decent refurbished rMBP for $1000, I was just hoping I could go a lot lighter in weight.
>>47033515
Difference really is that the UX305 has a sub 1GHz Core M, and we don't know the rest of the specs yet - but at $899 it's equally as worthless as the new macbooks.
>>47033257
save a 1k and get a chromebook and install linux.
>>47033536
He was talking about the Yoga.
>>47035875
>implying any notebook that can take text input is any better than any other for programming
>>47036395
well, it probably need to feel good and be easy on the eyes.
Handle tons of tabs in your favorite ide (I love IntelliJ.)
Compile quickly.
Play the music/ebooks/radio you listen to while coding
handle IMers while you code and not suffer from toasts popping up over your ide.
Handle tons of tabs for stackexchanges plus youtube for whatever you're researching.
all simultaneously while feeling smooth and fantastic.
Maybe enough room to neflix on half the screen when you're cranking through boilerplate code and need a distraction.
so yeah, a tiny text-editor-only laptop isn't going to do it.
>>47036609
>IDE
Plebian
>compile quickly
This is what workstations and servers are for
>play media while editing text
I'd hope whatever laptop you select can do this
>handle IMs
Again, I'd hope it could
>tons of tabs
Not a tough requirement at all
If you need a programming machine and not a compiling machine, you could probably get away with a Chromebook. ChromeOS has online IDE options on top of a terminal for SSH and maybe X11 forwarding for graphical IDEs, or you could just install Linux on it.
>>47033257
I will be using it for that purpose, yes.
>>47036664
> >IDE
>Plebian
Enjoy searching for all the uses of a function in that 6mill line project of code you've never seen before.
While you're grepping and juggling to sort everything out, I'm just going to click "find all uses" and step through them.
>>47036794
Now Anon... you know those little leftist faggots don't know what it's like to code for money.
>>47033978
core m at 1Ghz gets nearly the same performance as the i5 860
>>47036017
I have the ux305 and it performs just fine. I was expecting atom tier performance and the thing never ever gets a slowdown.
Typical usage for me:
Outlook open, working on word document, chrome open with a few tabs, editing code in notepad++.
>>47036609
>Compile quickly.
If you are doing serious compilation you should be using SSH.
>>47036609
>Not sshing to an AWS instance for compiling.
Here's the deal with school and computers:
Whatever you're thinking of buying, it's more than enough.
Let's not kid ourselves here. You fuckers are wanting to buy >$1000 machines because you:
A) Want something cool
B) Want to look cool
C) Want to game
You can whine and complain about <insert bullshit here> that takes 23509283525 GHz at minimum to run that is soooo absolutely required for you to merely pass the class. As stated, it's bullshit.
Especially coding. You can code on a netbook. Shit, I've SSH'd my desktop from my phone and done some coding work at school, and this was during the Galaxy S1/iPhone 4 days, when screens were tiny.
Your $1300 toy isn't going to make you a better programmer than an Indian H1B with a $200 netbook.
Even if you're an engineer running SolidWorks or Pro/Engineer Wildfire or Matlab or MultiSim and you're on campus, the campus workstations are going to be faster, and if you're not on campus, you're not getting any work done unless you're at home with your desktop anyway. I know, I'm an engineer, I was an undergrad once too.
Buy it because you want it. It's okay to want nice things. Don't ask retards on /g/ to justify it for you.
>>47037527
>implying people don't do more than draw and code in school
>implying some classes don't require machining and 3d modelling software
>>47037589
If you need a workstation, buy a workstation. For most programming the new MacBook is more than enough.
>>47033257
I honest to god think apple was testing the waters or trolling the market. what was the lowest performance wise we could get away with the highest price we could get away with?
There's no way to say this with out stereotyping, but this was for daddy's girl whose going to college. She will be blown away by the crisp high resolution screen and upgraded track pad, nothing else will be of concern to her, she never used USB ports on laptops any ways, because you can't download a thumbed up comment to a flash drive.
If you plan on using this for some basic programming, ATLEAST get the macbook air 13 inch that thing comes with an i5 and a much higher thermal threshold.
Personally, the lenovo y50 with an non gimped i7, blows all these away for a cheaper price (except for the screen and hard drive which both are extremely easy to upgrade which actually took less then 30 minutes for both upgrades.),
>>47038041
>lowest performance
Nigga, Core M is fast.
>>47038084
>Core M
Before or after it throttles to nearly 1ghz in less then 5 minutes?
>>47033303
Your edge is showing.
>>47038101
After.
>>47033427
How's the build quality on that plastic Toshiba? How's the washed out shitty display? How's the crappy trackpad?
>>47038041
>looks up the y50
>some big, thick, heavy, "gaming" laptop
It's not even an Ultrabook. Are you high?
>>47038114
Show me a benchmark where the Core™ M-5Y70 out does any i5 NON "U" version.
>>47038127
>macshit
>build quality
>>47038149
story on this image?
>>47038149
>thick
It's not an ultrabook but thick? are you the one that is high sir?
>>47038225
There are 10 year old ThinkPads thinner than that. It's also 238% heaver than the new MacBook.
>>47038194
No one said it outdoes anything, but these things are so much faster than you'd expect.
I have a ux305, I was expecting atom, I got core.
11/10 would buy this processor again.
>>47038111
>I don't like what someone thinks
>Le edgym mey mue
>>47038218
http://www.wesh.com/news/central-florida/orange-county/convenience-store-clerk-shot-after-robbery-attempt/22669824
>>47033303
don't cut yourself on all that edge bruh
It's probably going to be alright for most web dev stuff, but anything more than that is probably going to be a fucking pain.
Which is fine I guess, I'm not going to do anything but web dev on a laptop. I have a desktop at home for game dev and fuckin' around.
>I want to code on a twelve inch screen where I can only view a paragraph at a time
>I want to compile on an Intel M with 8 gigs of ram
My pants are wet for this device but even I think you're crazy OP
>>47033303
>>47033952
There's a point where form is emphasized over function.
Apple is notorious for doing this shit: See the iPhone 6.
Making things so incredibly thin for aesthetic value is stupid when increasing thickness to the point of acceptable portability would give you MORE BATTERY LIFE on top of extra functionality.
Take a look at the thinkpad X series (specifically 210, 220, and 230) they are very small laptops, one would have to be pretty dense to say that they aren't portable. Yet they still manage to have functionality up the ass due to ports and great battery life because they can accommodate large batteries.
>>47040359
Thinkpads are made of plastic and feel like bricks though...
>>47040359
x250 still has a vga port and is sub 3lbs.
I don't see any point in going thinner.
