Are SSDs any good yet? I'm thinking about migrating my OSs to SSD, which ones does /g/ recommend
they're obscenely good
>>46831702
instal gentu
Crucial, Samsung, Intel.
Literally the only people who don't think ssds are worth it are the people who haven't used one yet
>>46831702
Have you been in a coma for a few years?
>>46831793
I wouldn't buy an evo. And there is a lot of bricked 850 pro's out there.
Running my ssd in sata 2. Haven't had that full speed experience yet. Do they have pci cards that have sata 3 inputs?
>>46831926
yup, sound asleep.
>>46831702
You can buy like 200GB for under $100 now.
As someone who has only filled up 100GB in the last ten years, I'd say it's about time to switch.
Are mSATA SSDs any good yet? I'm thinking about migrating my OSs to mSATA SSD, which ones does /g/ recommend
Yes, don't buy Samsung shit. They can't into Firmware. Buy Crucial, Plextor, Intel
Buy one from Crucial. They're cheaper than Samshit and just as good. And their firmwares are working too.rstpse the
I gave my gf a SSD for her 2010 MacBook last weekend. She was skeptical but afterwards said she noticed a major improvement in performance, so yes, they're great and definitely no placebo like some people on /g/ keep shouting.
I have an SSD in my laptop and desktop too and they're both fast as fuck, even though my laptop is a shitty 5 year old Acer.
Get a Crucial, it's the only brand out there that can really be trusted right now.
They were good for years now, and one of the few upgrades the usual non-gaymen people would notice.
>>46832193
this. If you want your ssd to be reliable get one from Plextor but they're costy. Otherwise get a Crucial one. Intel is shit though
>>46831993
Yea, but they also just have even faster PCIe SSDs
Best way to migrate? Besides fresh installation, of course.
>>46831702
they aren't really worth it, just buy yourself another TB or 2 of storage instead
>>46831702
Get a 128GB SSD, it is the sweet spot for installing your OS and programs on. 20GB for your OS and a few essential programs and you are left with around 100GB for games and other fancy programs. Sandisk ultra plus are the ssd you are looking for, their 128GB version is $50 on amazon.
As for reliability most SSDs beging to fail after 750 to 1,000TB of continuous data writing. In everyday use you might write 10GB of data MAX so that is a little over 3TB of data written each year. Unless you are a data center you can safely assume your SSD will outlive you.
>>46832304
No SSD or HDD is particularly reliable or predictable - have redundancy on a backup instead.
>>46832627
WD blacks are pretty solid
don't listen to the retards, SSDs are MUCH faster and more reliable than HDDs
^ fact
>>46832653
Almost everything actually used has less than a 10% chance of failing this year.
Same again next year etc. until it's really old.
That doesn't mean that you won't be in the <10%, anyways.
>>46831996
Well, welcome to the 2010's. There's some cool stuff around. No, Half Life 3 is still not out.
>>46832653
The reliability difference between the worst hard drive and the best hard drive is insignificant in the grand scheme of things. No one with any actual important data ever picks up a hard drive and thinks, "This is the only storage I will need." No, it will always be backed up somewhere else. WD blacks fail just like any other hard drive.
>>46832775
This. Its probably one of the biggest upgrades i ever did to my system.
>>46832304
>Intel is shit though
SSDs are probably the only area where they are good AND cost efficient.
Probably because they have competition.
I've been using a Intel 330 for the past 3 years, before that an Intel X-25V for 2 years. Rock solid, fast as fuck.
Might change to one of those new PCIe mounted M.2 SSDs though, back at CES they were demoing units which nearly hit 2000 MB/s (almost 4x the speed of SATA3).
No one with important data who doesn't deserve to be set on fire like a Jordanian pilot doesn't back it up no matter what hd they use.
SSD performance improvement is massive and the impact resistance is a bonus now that desktops are dead.
>>46833009
>Probably because they have competition.
lol
I laugh because it's true.
>AMD why :(
Intel tends to be on the pricier side of SSDs but they've gotten a lot better about it. Half a decade back they were the premiere brand in reliability (really the only reliable one back then) and you would pay out the ass for it.
>tfw 98% SSD life remaining
>been using it 4 years
B-but they don't last long!
2 expensive,i wait till we get some 2tb SSD for under 100$
By the time it happens, some new shit 10x faster than ssd will be released.
>>46831993
Yes, but pay attention to the performance. A lot of them don't have the full 6 gigabit bandwidth. Might want to check to see if it's bootable too
>>46832194
>Buy one from Crucial. They're cheaper than Samshit and just as good.
No, they're better. Samshit's cheap shit uses TLC, whereas Crucial uses MLC for all their products.
Mainstream pci-e SSDs when
>>46831702
I'm divided between a Samsung 840 Pro 120GB, an Intel 530 120GB and a Crucial MX100 128GB, being the Crucial the cheapest by a quite big margin.
What should I buy?
>>46833528
m.2 will come first
>>46834066
Do you have a megasuperfast computer with octocore i7? Get the Samsung. Anything other? Crucial.
>>46834066
>Crucial
They have a limited lifetime warranty on ram and SSDs
Wait for the 250GB (or more, I guess) 850 Evo to drop to ~$99 again.
>>46834117
Nah. 4690k.
Seems like the Intel one is the fastest one, though. I've been looking into the Corsair LS line as well, which seems quite fast. But I have no idea if they're any good.
They are okay, but you better be keeping backups. To be fair you should be keeping backups regardless.
Don't worry about speed because you will never notice it (except for kingstons, they are basically not worth your time), all you should care about is reliability.
They are fine for laptops where you don't need much space, but if you are buying some shitty 128gb one just to put your OS on it to participate in ssd shill threads and benchmark dick waiving contests, don't bother.
is it safe to store bitcoins on a SSD?
>>46831909
/thread
>>46834116
Exactly.
And why would you still want PCI-e if you can have M.2?
>but, but, my motherboard doesn't have an M.2 slot
Tough.
I guess everyone says to got with the 840/850 evo.
My friend has an 850 evo and i have a ADATA SP900. We have very similar specs, but my computer manages to boot way faster than his.
>>46831996
Where did you get your cryotube?
>>46834148
I think the Samsung one would be a bit faster with that CPU (the 4690K is still really fast), so if you have the money to spare, get that one. Otherwise, get the Crucial. The difference won't really be that noticeable in practice.
All I can say for sure is that I got two 480GB Crucial M500s. One for my laptop and one for my desktop. While it's a good match for my crappy i3 laptop, I sometimes wonder if a 840 Pro would've been better for my (4770K) desktop.
>>46834207
>my computer manages to boot way faster than his
Look even with two SSDs that are a bit faster/slower than each other the difference in boot time is usually gonna be 1-2 s because most SSDs can boot into Windows in under 10 seconds. If that's not the case for either of you you both have problems elsewhere. I have a shitty computer with really old stuff in it (AMD 3-core processor) and I can boot into windows from my SSD in ~8-10 seconds.
>>46834207
Don't get the Samsung EVO drives. The 840 has a history of problems and the 850 isn't out long enough to have proven they got TLC right this time.
>>46833127
wtf how do you even come up with 98%?
Intels are the best, but they are expensive as hell if you want high capacity. You could get an Intel 240gb for $160, though, just to use as a boot drive.
Most people probably have more than that in their Steam directory, but honestly I put my games on an HDD and my OS on a SSD and games still run fast.
>>46834276
That's probably what SMART reports. My 4+ year old SSD reports 98% too.
>>46834266
They fixed those issues already with the 840. The real problem is the fix sometimes made the drives unusable. The 850 is one of the fastest SSDs and has also had some really good sales lately. It's got a warranty. Most people replace it before the warranty is done. There's no reason to not buy shit because "something might happen." Anything might happen to any piece of hardware.
>>46833127
>implying the danger with SSDs is that you will slowly wear it into a calm, frail old-age death
Oh god the naivete.
I bought a $60 128GB Sandisk SSD off of Amazon a few weeks ago. So far so good.
I've been thinking of starting a scam business where I can guarantee that I can upgrade your computer to be faster and I just clone your HDD and put it on the SSD.and the customer will see very damn obviously how much faster it boots up, but the price of buying somebody an SSD costs into my profits.
>>46834319
The problems came back for some people. Reportedly mostly for drives that are used very little. I'll keep off the TLC drives for some time until I've seen them be completely fine for a bit. The whole fiasco with the 840 EVO hurt my trust in them a bit.
>>46834339
For most Windows users, you could guarantee to make their computer run faster just by reinstalling the OS.
For family members who manage to hose their Windows install every year, I found the best solution is to partition their drive into OS and data, then image the OS partition right after I have everything nice and installed.
>>46834276
>>46834276
> find expected read / write
> subtract used read / write
> divide by expected read / write
i was doing some research on ssd's and found this really interesting tidbit
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8216/samsung-ssd-850-pro-128gb-256gb-1tb-review-enter-the-3d-era/6
tl;dr programs are still written with hard disk drives in mind and can't take advantage of ssd's
I got my wife an x220 and an SSD, she's over the moon about having a faster laptop than me. It's ridiculously quick.
>>46834416
>run AdwCleaner
>run Malwarebytes
>run CCleaner
>install Unchecky
>turn off startup programs
There you have it, runs as fast as it did when it was new. The need to reinstall Windows every once in a while is a myth made up by people who can't into maintenance.
>>46834483
you realize the graph is RAPID mode? That's not HDD vs SSD that's SSD-RAPID vs SSD-NO RAPID. It's an option you can enable/disable for the SSD.
>tfw only buying intel ssd's
>tfw never having problems
money well spent
inb4 goodgoy
>>46834521
yes, i realize that and i should've made a note that rapid is samsung's proprietary ram caching program
to clarify, my point is in the tl;dr
>>46834483
you can't read.
>>46834530
good goy. thank you for ze shekels.
>>46834565
you never disappoint /g/
>>46834548
ya but that point is useless unless that's an HDD vs SSD graph showing no performance increases (which there obviously would be)
>>46834276
>wtf how do you even come up with 98%?
That's the whole point about the "SSD lifespan" meme:
They have a limited number of write cycles, so you can predictably count down until they die.
Under heavy load SSD's aren't going to last more than about 40 years, 50 years tops. - that's why /g/ doesn't want them.
>>46833505
Yeah paid like a 100 bucks for a 250gb one and love it.
>>46834517
My last PC repair task was a certain family member's laptop. The fucking thing took literally 45 minutes to go from power on to displaying the wallpaper. I let it sit there for another 2 hours and Explorer still wouldn't load, the HDD was busy cranking away at who knows what.
Safe Mode still worked, so I ran the usual tools, disabled everything non-MS in msconfig, and the mystery process was still executing itself on a normal boot (I could still load up task manager and I watched like 10-20 phony lookalike processes jump in and out of it).
I'm sure it was just some stupid virus but I hardly ever use Windows on my own computers anymore so I'm rusty on some of the tricks. It still amazes me how badly people can fuck up their own shit
>>46834786
Those are the exceptions. Sure an install can fuck up sometimes and then an reinstall is needed, but I was talking about the situations when it's just been slowed down by a lot of malware. Simply removing that load makes a machine very quick. My mother's computer is a 2008 C2D with 3 GB RAM still running the original Vista install. Still pretty much as quick as when it was new, because she doesn't do stupid shit and I keep it updated for her.
>>46831702
yes, goyim. just remember to back up all your important files in the cloud for when it suddenly dies
>>46834897
>not having two nas
>>46834713
>40-50 years
I'm seriously not even trolling, but I don't understand why this is a problem for NON ENTERPRISE applications... Outside of really niche shit (which I guess some on /g/ are into), the average consumer is not going to need more than 10 years out of their hard drive before they just upgrade the whole computer or the hard drive itself because the technology has advanced in that time. Why would a consumer need more than 40-50 years out of their HDD when I don't think ANYONE uses a part that long day-to-day?
>>46834946
Rotational velocidensity
>>46835010
>no spinning parts
>rotation
man, get your trolling right
They work great if you intend to write a little more then its capacity to it and nothing more. If you do something that involves a lot of deleting and writing, an SSD for programs and a HDD for storage is the best bet.
>>46834946
>I don't understand why this is a problem for NON ENTERPRISE applications
It's a problem because of autism.
Some people just cannot deal with the very idea of something wearing out, even if it's going to last 200 years under normal use.
Have you forgotten where you are?
>>46835057
>not knowing about virtual velocidensity
>>46835153
>>46834066
Samsung 850 pro
Just bought a used SanDisk SSD. How fucked am I?
>>46835242
15%
I have the one in your picture and it's fine.
Obviously, when you pay +30$ extra for a brand like intel you get a good product, because intel doesn't do shit to hurt their brand name.
Not to say that Intel aren't fuckers.
>>46832508
Just format and start off fresh anon
>>46831949>>46832193
what happened?, year ago /g/ was praising the evo as the lord of all sdd together with the queen crucial.
whats the deal with 850 series, seems pretty good to me
Ive been using cheap plextor ssd for about 8 months now and never had any problems
>>46835443
hivemind
Someone said they were bad. People started spreading it. Outside of /g/ people are getting the 850
>>46835443
samsung fucked 840s and 850s with their shitty updates
>>46831702
I just picked up a Samsung EVO 850 250GB. Waiting for it to come in the mail tomorrow.
>>46835443
samsung had some sort of firmware bug that fucked shit up
in reality most ssds (depending on tiers, price etc) are all pretty good and fairly even performance wise
is there anyway to put pics from my ipad onto my ssd?
I had an 840 and an 850 evo. As much as I hate Samsung, I honestly can't complain. Both are still running perfectly fine and the performance hasn't dropped since day one.
>>46835591
Yes, sell iPad, buy android tablet. Copy paste
>>46835580
Except something like the SSDnow V300 debacle and some really low end 60GB SSDs. Those can be really slow, and I mean HDD slow.
Stuck between Intel 530 and Samsung 850 EVO. I'm also considering being a cheap fuck and going with one of those $60 budget SSDs. Any suggestions?
>>46832009
I'm by no means a data hoarder, but simply with a few common ISOs for working on friend's computers, I'm at 450 gB
>>46835695
850 EVO
Never go intel
>>46835695
>I'm also considering being a cheap fuck and going with one of those $60 budget SSDs. Any suggestions?
I had a cheap kingston 60gb and 2 sandisk 60gbs and all 3 of them failed after about 2-3 years, they're the only non-volatile storage I've had die on me in a decade barring a refurbished usb drive
before I get shit for buying a sandisk ssd - it was in 2012~, I had assumed that their (well earned) reputation was for earlier drives - how wrong I was
>>46835695
850 EVO. i finally made the jump to SSD two or three months ago and got the 850 PRO - it's been a beast and is humming along awesomely.
once you install, just make sure to install and run Samsung Magician to get updated firmware and do all the maintenance goodness.
>>46835735
Ehh any reasons why? Also, considering that it has a 30-40 dollar premium over the budget SSDs, would it be worth it anyways? I keep reading that in real world applications, the average user won't see any meaningful difference etc etc. But then there's the issue of longevity. I'm a fuckin retard when it comes to SSDs so if anyone could enlighten me I'd appreciate it.
When I had a HDD, I got home turned the PC on went for a piss and by the time I got back it was still booting.
Now I just have to piss in my pants it's that fast.
>>46835766
Hm, alright well I guess the premium is worth it.
>>46835807
Looks like I'm leaning towards the EVO then.
>>46835809
It took me a few hours reaching that conclusion when I got an 850 evo last month. I don't remember the specifics of why I chose it :/
