https://www.unrealengine.com/blog/ue4-is-free
Is it free as in freedom?
>>46816208
Who cares? Who the fuck actually plays games anymore?
shut your whore mouth freetard
It's open source.
>>46816242
No it's not. Open source != source available.
>>46816208
I can't wait for more quake clones on Linux, this time on ut4 engine. Maybe Linux might get a real game, but i doubt it.
>>46816255
Yes, it is. Open source != free.
>>46816255
Source code being available is the definition of open source. You can argue about freedumbs however.
>>46816270
Open source is just a marketing term for free software. That's what it has always been.
>>46816258
>linux
>getting games
>>46816208
Fuck no. This has been a publicity stunt from day one to try to get people to buy Epic's tools. Their git is completely closed to the public.
>>46816281
stop being retarded please
it might be contagious
Cool. I don't have a game to make, but I can sure use an engine like this for something else.
>>46816271
>Source code being available is the definition of open source.
No it's not. This is the definition of open source: http://opensource.org/osd
>>46816281
No, open source doesn't imply free, nor does free imply open source.
>>46816270
http://opensource.org/osd
>yfw every game UE4 looks the same
>>46816287
I guess you didn't hear the news?
>>46816307
That's "Open Source".
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/open-source-misses-the-point.html
>>46816287
Did you even read the post? The git repo is going to be open now and the engine have no upfront cost at all anymore. I even got refunded for my subscription!
I wonder if Crytek will fallow along with theirs.
So, is Unity dead now?
I really hope so, not one good game was produced with it.
>>46816314
https://github.com/EpicGames
>>46816208
FUCK YEAH
THIS IS GREAT
I'M NOT EVEN IRONIC
>>46816348
They are the only ones who manage to make good looking games with their engines.
Other companies fail hard. Just think of Sonic Boom.
>>46816345
HEY EAT SHIT EPIC SHILL FUCKFACE
>>46816363
IT'S STILL NOT FUCKING PUBLIC
>>46816281
>Open source is just a marketing term for free software.
Oh boy. Please, please write a mail to RMS asking why they use open source as a marketing term for free software and post results.
This will be truly epic!
>>46816350
Wasteland 2 was good but as it's typical of Unity developers they didn't know what the term "optimisation" implies.
Why is the download only 60mb?
>>46816380
They literally just announced it, give it a day will you?
>>46816440
>what is a launcher
>>46816388
What? I never said anything about RMS or FSF using it as a marketing term. It was coined by people who liked the ideas behind free software but disliked FSF and RMS.
>The term "open source" was coined in 1998 by a group of people — the founders of the Open Source Initiative (OSI) — who also supported the development and distribution of free software, but who disagreed with the FSF about how to promote it, and who felt that software freedom was primarily a practical matter rather than an ideological
http://opensource.org/faq#free-software
>>46816440
Because it's a launcher that allows you to download the entire engine?
>>46816451
ok cool
>>46816427
What can you even optimize when you're not the one who's compiling the engine?
The LOD? Not loading parts of the geometry when the player can't see it from his current location?
>>46816460
>Not loading parts of the geometry when the player can't see it from his current location?
You make it sound as this isn't important. Especially with lightning.
>>46816447
The term open source has nothing to do with free software. It literally just implies that there is a source, which to some extend can be altered. Or not. Depending on the licensing model of the software itself.
I'm not a defender of freedumbs in software but you literally said
>Open source is just a marketing term for free software.
which is just plain stupid.
Maybe read this article when you've got the time. It's a pretty good explanation of how open source came into place: http://www.thebaffler.com/salvos/the-meme-hustler
>>46816208
>Is it free as in freedom?
"When you ship a game or application, you pay a 5% royalty on gross revenue after the first $3,000 per product"
No, it violates freedom 0.
>>46816388
>RMS invented open source!
Holy shit, you fags are insufferable
>>46816227
More ppl than ever.
>>46816380
The blog post is apparently a bit premature. They said they'll talk about this at some point during GDC, which is when they'll make their git public probably
>>46816487
I know that this is important, but what else is there?
Also, this must be a horrible job to optimize this. It must be pretty consistent across all levels unless want horrible frame ups and downs.
>>46816442
They could have literally just made it public in two seconds. Don't hold your breath.
> C++
I'll stick with muh C# on Unity
>>46816512
>I can't into reading comprehension
>>46816208
>get 1 year free with github edu pack
>realize it'll run out before I'm done with it
>now it's free
Truly wonderful times we live in.
>>46816498
>Or not. Depending on the licensing model of the software itself.
Again, if the license doesn't meet the definition at http://opensource.org/osd then it's not an open source license. People saying that open source is the same as source available is just like people saying free software means it's available gratis.
I still don't get the difference between open source and freedom software.
>>46816702
Bah, who cares? It's not important.
>>46816702
That's because in practice there is none. Free software emphasises the ideological side more while open source emphasises the practical benefits but in the end they mean the same thing.
>>46816702
Open source licenses usually permit you to do everything you want with the license except suing the original authors.
"free" software doesn't allow you to change the license, but some "free" licenses allow you to change the license to other "free" licenses. Usually only those that give you even less rights. There's even crap like the GPL which is so cancerous that when a single line of GPL code is found in any project, they sue that project and force it to release the entire source code under the GPL.
>>46816778
Now I understand. Thanks
>>46816702
Well for starters the source for this isn't open libre or otherwise. It's seems nothing has changed in half a year except now you can be an unpaid beta tester.
>>46816305
Free as in freedom actually does imply open source.
>>46816380
>>46816539
You get the access to their repo by linking your github account with unreal account.
>>46817059
...And paying Epic $20 dollars for the usage of their tools. That was the point all along.
>>46816208
who cares? the school gave it to me for free.
>>46817089
>...And paying Epic $20 dollars for the usage of their tools.
* Per month
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too3d4me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omxH7zg-OXw
>>46817089
It's for free now. You don't have to pay a subscription fee anymore.
>>46816227
what a fucking retard, video games make more money than movies nowadays
>>46817164
Why does she have cataract?
>>46818217
too many nerds getting semen in her eyes
>>46816208
No, it's just freeware garbage.
>>46819336
>freeware garbage
if it was freedom wouldn't it just die instantly?
>>46819336
why do you hate freedom anon?
>>46816576
Enjoy your shit performance.
