My favorite so far.
rotrings are nice
I have that zebra: it's the best mechanical pencil imo
I wanna get a lamy scribble but for now whole graphite rods are nice
>>46659606
Zebra is a great brand love their pens. What is that middle pencil?
>>46659682 I was looking at this one for a while now, I like the blue on a mechanical pencil.
Damn I saw that Rotring on a Massdrop sale but missed it
>>46659732 its the "pentel graphgear 1000", I love this pencil had it now for a year. Recommend!
>>46659783 yeah man, I recently go it and I'm loving it so far, one thing though I would of like is sharper edges on the hexagon part of the pen, they're a bit on the round side. I like the sharp hexagon shape on the rotring 600, but having the retractable pin on this one is a plus.
Got a few chinkshit fountain pens ordered. I'm hoping they're good, not just good for the price.
>>46659716
Pleb.
>>46659757
I got a pair of those at a store closing sale. They're pretty good.
>>46659788
I've had mine since August, best $10 investment I've made. Just had to buy some lead and a pack of 3 big erasers. So much better than cheap shitty plastic pencils
Bumping 4 Zebra knock.
>>46660199
I've had mine for 2.5 years now. will be 3 start of next semester
I work at a major hospital, running IT tickets.
I basically spend my day in and out of random offices throughout a 3 million square foot space, picking out which pens I like the most.
I typically grab any unguarded Pilot G2 or Zebra F-402, my two favorite cheap pens, or anything else that seems to be made well.
>If you have a nice pen, don't leave it at your desk.
The only thing I ever get compliments on is my pen.
i finally decided to buy a pencil that didn't come in a bag of 20. i went with the .7mm uni kuru toga and have been pretty satisfied with it over the past couple weeks. how's it stack up to some of the things you guys are talking about in the thread?
Ooh, just in time. Gonna try and take a nice picture of my pen(s).
Back from the dead.
>>46661449
Okay, I tried.
my Parker, great for under £20
Would really like a Yard-O-Led Viceroy but it's £265.
>>46663905
...forgot pic
I like really inky pens, however I can't find any that don't smudge since I'm lefthanded and write like a dying retard.
>>46659606
From the lower ones:
- Rotring Tikky Special 0,5mm (my favorite)
- Steadler Triplus Micro 0,5mm
- Astra Automatic 0,5mm (very old one)
To the heavy artillery:
- Automat*Krakow-PN-667N-11388-HB-1,8mm
- Koh-I-Noor Versatil 5347 5,6mm
;)
i hate it.
>Anno Domini nostri Iesu Christi MMXV
>not using a fountain pen
The Noodler's Ahab is probably the most useful pen I have; after I making the right adjustments.
It really makes no sense that students in America don't use fountain pens.
Master race pencils reporting in. Why are pen fags so jealous?
>can't write in space
>can't write underwater
>can only look a bit fancy
>is not practical
>needs to buy new filters
>expensive
Pens are really unuseful.
>>46667367
At least they cannot be erased when they use any other ink than blue. ;) You obviously don't have to sign any important documents like adults do.
>>46667422
>not using 5b pencils
Try to erase that with all your might you low pencil fag.
>>46667306
>America
What'd you expect?
>>46667367
"Sign this employment contract in blue ink please."
>>46667499
>would you mind lending me a blue inked pencil please
>I only carry pencils around me because even if it freezes outside I can use them anytime and any second
+100 points by your employer.
>>46659606
Get that rice out of here.
>>46667457
Don't know where you live, mate, but where I live any document you sign with a pencil is treated like a blank one. You cannot vote with any pencil. You cannot open a bank account. You cannot sign any contract, bill, statement, testimony - nothing more important that a love letter in kindergarten. Grow up.
Pencils are fine, but for specific, mostly unofficial tasks.
(And I am the >>46664503 guy)
>>46659606
>>/ic/
ill be deleting this thread after an hour :)
>>46667588
>grow up
Have fun trying to write within a emergency situation with a pencil while it is freezing outside. Oh wait you can't because it won't work.
>>46667706
Are there really pen and pencil elitists?
>>46667917
I only have one blue inked pencil which I use for documents.
But for other cases for taking records or outside, I always carry only pencils. They are more useful than pens.
>>46667706
Yes. Grow up from the shill. And calm down. And when you do, read again carefully what you have written. :)
I do carry a pencil, mate. But I use to draw with it, not take my notes with it. I carry pic related as EDC and it is enough. By the way, I have never had any ballpoint pen failure other than running out of ink, even at -25 degrees Celcius.
Pencils also have disadvantages - they either smear (B) or give low contrast (H). HB smears as well.
And let me ask you:
>can't write in space
How often are you in space?
>can't write underwater
How often are you taking notes underwater and on what surface?
>needs to buy new filters
You meant fillers? Yeah. Like you have to buy new pencils or pencil leads. What's the difference?
>expensive
Depends on the brand and model. Like everything.
You can get cheap fountain pens and ballpoint pens and you can get Eberhard Faber Blackwing 602 pencils that can go for fuckton of dollars on ebay.
>>46668286
>space
From time to time
>underwater
A lot of times
>needing to filter
I just use my knife to continue on
>smear is an issue
I use my breath to warm it up and give it a better writing control.
I can use a pencil whenever and wherever I want.
>>46668437
>>needing to filter
>I just use my knife to continue on
What? Are you dumb or something? What do you do with your knife when your pencil is out of graphite?
Dude, I have no idea what mental illness you have but your arguments are invalid. You cannot into logic & common sense. Adieu.
>>46668501
>you can't into
>mental illness
You are some uber beta faggot, aren't ya?
>>46668556
>uber beta
Don't know what you mean.
Pic related for you. :->
>>46661358
>kuru toga
mah nigga. Though with the way I write, it seems not every stroke rotates the lead
>>46668729
Who in the fuck uses calligraphy pens for normal use?
I mean, I use fountain pens daily, but I wouldn't go spewing out calligraphy bullshit.
>>46669136
Who said anything about using it daily? I took out an old organizer from 2012 and wrote those few words for entertainment :-)
I haven't used it since 2011 actually, until now.
>>46659716
so are these better than the bic medium (pic related), for jotting down notes in lectures?
>>46668729
penis for life?
>>46668729
Penis s life
>>46668729
HeUo, /g/!
Uneenis, peucil, miate!
peus s life!
there that what would happen if you wrote like that on an apple newton
been using this brand for the past few years.
>>46669415
They make good fountain pens. Nice, fine Japanese nibs.
This is all sorts of sexy. Used to be a .3mm fag until I realized .7mm is so much better for shading.
>mfw I got through 3 years of uni with a 20 cent pen
>>46669347
>>46669362
>>46669381
Yeah, I know. My writing style sucks. To much writing done on a keyboard instead of pen & paper.
>>46669465
I don't understand how people can stand 0.3mm with that shit breaking every damn second
>>46659606
I just use Pilot mechanicals with 0.5mm lead.
They work very well for me.
>>46669465
Why not 2mm?
>>46669415
This
why even make this thread
>>46669437
i've never used a fountain pen. would it be finer than the pen i posted?
I'm thinking about a rOtring 600. Any thoughts?
>>46669492
>tfw took the SAT and had to shade those ovals with a 0.3mm pencil
i was an idiot
>>46669492
It's all about choice of lead. Not all lead is created equal. I use Pentel Ain Stein lead exclusively.
>>46669528
No, probably not. Fine for fountain pens.
>>46661248
>nobody ever compliments me on my anime shirt
Fuck off weeb.
>>46661231
>Zebra F-402
love this pen
so fucking comfy
Got a Rotring 600 and waiting for a Parker Jotter.
>>46669643
ah alright. i tend to write really small so i need super fine pens. one i linked is only one i've found so far that does what i want. i'll take suggestions though if others have them.
pic related
>>46668286
what are the pens in your pic?
The fountain pen is Waterman Allure.
The ballpoint pen is Waterman Hemisphere.
there's no sense of scale here.
>>46670012
>not cursive
Kill yourself.
>>46659606
The fucking shot is THIS doing here? Off topic
Tfw unused rotring 600 lava rollerball arrived when I was out and someone in my building accepted the package.
>I don't even know this person,
>He/she is out and has been for 8+ hours
>my package is being hostage by some stranger
Mailmen giving your package to random people in your appt building should be shot
My chinky Jinhao 599 arrived today. I like it, but it's much louder on this cheap printer paper than my safari which is near silent
>>46673136
apologies for terrible penmanship and potato cam. If you want a decent starter pen just to try fountain pens that don't completely suck definitely buy this one over a cheap one from a stationery store.
Some of the design in this jinhao one is pointless and clearly only there to copy the safari which is a bit of a disappointment. Other than the jinhao grip being a millimeter or two longer to make up for the shorter nib the grips are all but identical in geometry
>>46673173
P.S. the converter it comes with.. I don't trust it at all. It feels kinda rattly and shitty which is something you do not want in a thing that's supposed to be watertight. Drawing from the bottle of ink was really difficult, it doesn't suction well. I'd trust a cartridge + refilling with syringe much more which is the setup I have in the Safari. Less messy too.
>>46672639
Google tells me that's a $500 pen. First, why in the fuck would you pay $500 for a rollerball pen? Second, you paid $500 for a pen and skimped out on shipping? No signature confirmation or anything?
>>46673136
Why bother with fountain pens when you print?
>>46673421
what? I have a stack of this shit and just pulled one off
>>46673437
Print as in non-cursive.
>>46673455
Cursive is awful.
>>46673411
Well I didn't get it for 500 but 200 usd instead.
As for the 'why a rollerball' part, I've already got a truckload of FPs and I was looking for something a bit more suited for taking quick notes during lectures. I find with FPs you either have to keep them uncapped during these lectures which dries them out and makes writing the first couple of words a bitch or you keep it capped but have to uncap and recap a million fucking times per lecture.
So I got a lava rollerball and a lava ballpoint somewhat cheaply: usually it'd be something like 450+150ish usd for the pair and now I got them for 200 and 100.
>>46673553
That's pretty crazy, my man. What you want is a hooded nib so it stays wet longer. Lamy 2000 does the job. Pilot vanishing point is convenient as well, but I have no experience with it.
>>46673673
I've never had a pen dry out while holding it, is it related to the flow rate? Mine are all set pretty low for quick drying
>>46673673
But I do have a lamy 2000, however I find that it lays down too much ink and although it's a fine nib it's still too big for my taste.
I should find a nib meister to grind it down to more of a twsbi-esque F nib
What is second from top in OP?
>>46673698
Depends on the pen and the ink used.
>>46673804
This one's mine >>46663649 and I have it in EF. I can write consistently in 3 hour lectures without any drying out occurring.
>>46659783
safari mate, mein negro
>>46659606
>he paid thirty-fifty USD for a placebo pencil
>>46673858
My reason for not using my L2K isn't drying out though, it's mostly that it puts down too much ink and it's too broad.
I usually have to write my notes somewhat small+make small drawings and schematics and a broad wet FP just doesn't lend itself to well for that.
I tend to use the l2k for my homework when I don't have to rush notes and I can take my time with it.
>>46674091
Dependent on your nib size, ink, and paper, but I get you, my boy.
used this pilot for a long time
0.5 mechanical and 4 different colors of ballpoint
Nice for color coded notes
Also used Kurutoga but the mechanism broke after one year and would continue to shatter the lead
>>46659606
why the fuck are you guys such a fucking overspending faggots? First the hundred dollar watches, now fucking PENS? nigga I just snatch pens from my seatmates
>>46674558
>why do you buy nice things?
>>46674802
I'm just kidding. First successful troll of the day!
>>46674558
What is a seatmate?
>>46674875
You call that a troll? Faggot.
>>46670012
If you like writing really small you should look at Japanese stationary not meant for distribution in the U.S.
For a pen a Japanese extra fine or ultra extra fine will do.
For a pencil I think there is a .3mm lead version of the kuru toga.
>>46674941
you have been doubled trolled woohoo!
>>46673314
Will a safari converter work in the Jinhao?
>>46675809
Dunno m8 don't have a safari converter. I just refill a cartridge with a syringe cause I read the safari converters hold much less ink.
>>46676137
Do the cartridges for the Safari work in the Jinhao then?
>>46676257
nope just tried. it takes international probably
>>46676291
Thanks.
>>46665024
Those are the best cheap ones I've ever used
>>46667499
>"Sign this employment contract in blue ink please."
>>46667507
>>would you mind lending me a blue inked pencil please
I want to be more mature and therefore I ask: Is it good or bad to sign in blue?
I would prefer black and would my own black fountain pen for that, but I guess the philosophical question if blue of black is question I never asked myself consciously
>>46677822
blue ink for contract signing is a legal thing and pretty standard.
>>46677855
Ah okay, I see.
Sorry for the horrible mistakes I made in my post there, I should have re-read that before posting I guess.
>>46677923
yeah not a philosophical thing, just that it's harder to fake blue on a photocopy or w/e compared to black
Okay this is exactly the thread I was looking for.
I want to buy a really nice pen. However, it needs to be on Amazon because I have a $30 gift card. Price limit is 30-40 dollars. I don't really care if its a fountain pen or ball pen as long as its easy to use, works well, and is easy to use.
What do you guys recommend? I've tried to pick but I don't know the brands well and I'm afraid I'm gonna pick a shit one.
>>46678601
>its easy to use, works well, and is easy to use.
fuck me im retarded
>>46678601
Depends what you want. Fountain pens are cheaper over the long haul. A decently cheap fountain pen is a lamy safari and it has nice aesthetics to me. About $30 coupled with a bottle of ink around $45 in total. They also make a lamy safari rollerball which is a nice pen that just works at about $30 plus refills around $40 in total. Or you could get a pilot metropolitan and two or three bottles of ink. If you're getting something to write notes with then go for an EF or F nib.
>>46678681
Thanks. What are the pros and cons associated with fountain and rollerball pens? Which is best for everyday use such as taking notes in class?
>>46678781
Biggest pro of fountain pens are the cost over time. A bottle of ink will last you a year or more. You'll want nicer than regular paper though. They take more maintenance than a regular pen. Rollerballs just work. Don't get a ballpoint, they're shit.
>>46678781
Fountain pen looks better in my opinion, but doesn't work with 0 gravity (reminder: earth is already in space). A roller ball pen does. Also: A roller ball pen (normally) doesn't leak ink (normally a fountain pen does neither, but accidents happen).
The rest is just personal preference.
I have always found that fountain pens made me pay attention to my writing style. I have no idea what psychology stays behind that.
But I also like pic related. They are very smooth and last extremely long.
>>46659606
fucknig nerds
>>46679729
Are you too young to remember that pens and pencils were the only reasonable way to take notes for an average man as recently as 15 years ago? Go away, kid.
Can anyone suggest a nice fountain pen? Preferably metal bit that isn't too important. Needs to be of a consistent diameter though, I hate nothing more than really thick pens with that stupid shape so many of them seem to have.
