Summarize this age old war to someone new into PC hardware.
They both produce about same quality products and people are stupid and apple-fanboyism-grade-brand-loyal
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>>46222633
nvidia pays people to make them look good
AMD is too poor to do the same
Normal people who knows stuff will buy AMD for the value
People easily swayed by marketing buy nvidia
pic related AMD is pretty much the dominant one in price/performance in all market segements
>>46222633
Don't know OP, Ati doesn't exist
>>46222633
Windows: flip a coin
Linux: Nvidia, because ATI driver support is shit
>>46222633
if you just want gpu for gaming and that the only thing go nvidia they pple developers to make there card run better then AMD.
IF you want an all rounder GPU go AMD
Whatever you do, don't buy a GTX960, it's shit value.
some years, one performs better than the other
>>46222685
>palit
>>46222748
This is some high tier bullshit. Except for the 970, AMD cards beat nvidia cards in gaming in every other price segment.
>>46222633
This is all you need to know
>AMD fanboys will find this offensive.
>>46222761
Even the 970 doesn't really beat AMD, the 290x is generally cheaper and faster
>>46222761
the point was NVIDIA gpu is made only for gaymen and suck in anything other
>>46222772
No one would find this offensive, its no secret AMD is doing bad. The lack of new CPUs is also costing them a lot.
>>46222772
stock prices don't equal performance.
only consumerism
>>46222633
faggotry
First of all you need to understand the basic design of AMD/NIVIDA GPU's in each category:
NIVIDIA
>smaller number of processors on chip
>Faster Core clockspeed on processors
>Less V-RAM capacity (most of the time)
>Smaller Memory bus (bandwidth)
>Faster clockspeed on V-RAM
AMD/ATI
>Greater number of processors on chip
>Slower Core clockspeed on processors
>Greater V-RAM capacity (most of the time)
>Larger Memory bus (bandwidth)
>Slower clockspeed on V-RAM
These fundamental differences in design cause the GPU's to handle Rendering loads very differently which affects the performance of games in ways
that synthetic benchmarks will rarely show you. There are two types of rendering loads in games and benchmarks and they are "Light load"
(when not all of the processors are being used) Heavy load (when all of the processors are being used and there are not enough processors
to handle all of the load currently tasked which has to then wait for its turn to be rendered)
As a result when a Nvidia GPU's are under "light" load they can render faster than AMD GPU's due to their higher clockspeeds but when under "heavy" load their performance
drops off a cliff because they have to much work and to few processors to do it all. When AMD GPU's are under "light" load they render slower than NIVIDA GPU's because
of their slower clockspeeds but when they are under "heavy" load they render faster because they have more processors to do all the work.
So a NIVIDIA GPU's "Maximum" framerate will usually be higher than a equivalent AMD-GPU but its "Minimum" framerate will usually be much lower than a equivalent AMD-GPU.
This is where the deception comes into play because "Maximum FPS", "Average FPS" and synthetic benchmark "scores" are all meaningless to game performance the only number that
truly gauges the power of a GPU and its performance in gaming is the "Minimum FPS" which is how fast the card will render frames when it is under the heaviest possible load.
>>46222797
Not really, they have Cuda and other things. Also the TItan GPUS are capable of double precision which sort of make them workstation cards.
AMD(ATI) and NVIDIA have always been pretty close to each other, a couple of years one takes the lead and later it's the opposite.
>>46222813
For this example I will compare a NIVIDA GTX970 (340$USD) and an AMD R9-290 (250$USD) using the "Valley" benchmark which is well known for being biased towards Nvidia GPU's
The settings of the benchmark are 1080p resolution with all graphics settings and filters set to maximum.
First the specs of the 970 which is a Zotac model
the card tested has an extreme OverClock of 1455mhz/1955mhz (Core)/(memory) and it is paired with an i5-4690K OC'ed to 4.2ghz (no cpu bottleneck can occure now)
The Result is "Maxmimum" 121.5FPS, "Average" 63.5 "Minimum" 30.1 FPS and becnhmark total score is 2658
Now for the R9-290 I will be using a Sapphire Tri-X model runing at non-OC "stock" speed of 1000mhz/1300mhz (Core)/(memory) and the same i5-4690k CPU running at 4.2ghz
The Result is "Maximum" 116.2FPS, "Average" 60.9 "Minimum" 29.2 FPS and benchmark total score is 2546
These results should be astonishing to most of you. Keep in mind I chose valley because it has a performance bias IN FAVOR of nvidia GPU's. Yes the "maximum" is
higher but even at the most extreme Overclock the GTX970 can just barely get a better minimum framerate than the AMD card running at STOCK SPEED (no overclock) when
the cards are under 'Heavy" load. Did I mention the R9-290 is almost 100$ cheaper than the gtx970?
The "score" is based on averages just like the "average" FPS. Both have a severe bias based on Nividia's higher "maximum" framerates when under "light" load and as a
result they help disguise the much lower "heavy" load performance.
>>46222813
beat ya to it
As long as it gets out there to shut down these silly arguments im happy
and im working on a followup pasta for Crossfire/SLI and Freesync/G-sync
>NVIDIA shills have shilled so hard they spawned the why amd is better namefag
For fucks sake /g/
>>46222840
truly doing gods work. All my friends at school shill 970's price/performance and this has given me legitimate arguments they don't understand
>>46222821
>TItan GPUS are capable of double precision
the 7970 was enough to compete with the titan in a lot of double precision math, there was really no reason to buy that thing unless you were doing cuda programming that needed it.
nvidia just werks while amd has niche advantages also better budget gpu.
>>46222864
>nvidia
>werks
lol good joke
Nvidia Maxwell is annihilating AMD HOUSEFIRES in all metrics, performance per watt, power consumption, temperature, tessellation, Direct3D 12 support etc
Basically AMD are desperate to move product and so are selling their GPUs for much less than they could.
I'm proud to say that I've contributed to their demise by buying Intel/Nvidia.
Ignore >>46222813 >>46222823 AMDPOORFAGshill
He doesn't know what he's talking about
Maxwell is much faster than AMD HOUSEFIRES while consuming a lot less power even in the most heavy loads
>>46222813
>>46222823
>>46222840
The difference between an R9 290 and a GTX 970.
>>46222875
>Direct3D 12 Support
Every DX11 card will support DX12 you retard.
>>46222853
its not just performance some of the marketing i have seen from Nvidia and people marketing for nvidia has bordered on FRAUD
Most people have no idea what cause "coil whine" or that its a serious design flaw in the Maxwell architecture
Most people think the 970 is more power efficient than the 290 when in really it actually draws MORE power than a 290 in order to achieve parity of performance
And AMD cards do not run nearly as "hot" as people claim they do and the ones that do have a serious overclock combined cheaply made and poorly designed cooling units
its fucking hideous the misinformation and disinformation i see in forums surrounding these two companies all to make AMD seem worse than they are and make Nividia seem better than they are
>>46222881
>mfw wouldnt want to see AMD going bankrupt
>mfw i dislike Intel and Nvidia's politics of doing buisness
>mfw i have an i5 + gtx 770
;(
>>46222899
Wrong, AMDPOORFAG retard
AMD cards cannot support D3D12 features like Rasterizer Ordered Views, Typed UAV Load, Volume Tiled Resources, Conservative Raster
>>46222891
>i'm dumb enough to buy a reference card
>>46222906
Wrong again, AMDPOORFAG shill
All the reviews show AMD being extremely power inefficient and it shows
>>46222913
could have bought a 280x for same performance and less money and helped AMD but you fucked up
>>46222828
Sounds like the exact opposite of my experience over the past decade.
Not onlythat but there are several tests of AMD sucking ass on frame display times (not fps), having more microstuttering, worse CFX than SLI performance
And generally CCC is a pile of shit and a joke of a driver.
So while I could believe this hardware-based explanation, in reality I'm constantly experiencing the opposite.
AMD works
Nvidia works well
>>46222772
They sure know how to put the micro in AMD.
>>46222939
CCC isn't a driver.
what gpu would you pair with a fx 6300?
>>46222947
I didnt mean it, its a pile of shit of a control panel - and they have jokes for drivers.
>>46222960
270x or 280
>>46222960
$150 budget
>>46222967
>le amd has bad drivers mayme
>the nvidia shilling in here is just overwhelming
Have Intel? Nvidia.
AMD? AMD.
Synergy is very real.
>>46222969
>Buying outdated, obsolete AMD HOUSEFIRES garbage with no variable refresh rate for gaming support, no full fixed function HEVC decoder, no Direct3D 12 new hardware features support
TOPPEST LELKEK, AMDPOORFAG shills
>>46222783
>290x
>cheaper
>faster
enjoy your overheating hairdrier fans, anon.
>>46222633
the /g/entlemen are gonna go "oh amd is using marketing" or "nvidia is using marketing" or whatever, and give you some fake statistics and facts.
Here's the thing:
NVidia's Maxwell is currently more energy- and cost affective than anything AMD has. Although, AMD are to release their 3XX-series soon, which is probably gonna turn tables.
I've personally always run NVidia for PhysX, and some damn good cuda, as well as actual fucking drivers for different OSs, which just shows genuine care for people using their products.
If you're low on budget, go with the upcoming 370(x) or get Nvidia's 960.
I am really on the fence here:
>always had nvidia my entire life
>decided to go with a 7950 on my "new rig" last year
>great performance although problems with drivers with crashes
>the card runs way too hot
>9 months after the card is kill
I'm scared to go back to AMD but they have good prices for good pieces of hardware.
GTX 970 or R9 290 ?
>>46222633
both are shit and have shit linux drivers.
>>46222979
And yours is an example of how amdfags dispute it...
>>46223002
>as well as actual fucking drivers for different OSs, which just shows genuine care for people using their products
What the fuck ever happened to that deal AMD made with China? I thought they were supposed to be improving their Linux drivers as a result.
>>46223005
The 970 uses a modern architecture and is extremely well regarded in the tech community at the moment, as the best high-end card at that price.
Temps are lower, alas bringing noise levels down, coil whine is much less likely, it can go 2-way sli with just a 750w psu, and it supports some very feature packing technologies that AMD just don't include, like G-Sync support, VXGI and MFAA.
>>46223005
You were unlucky with that card, I hope you RMAd it or something.
Buy what you feel like but you might get unlucky with that GTX970 as well. It has terrible coil whine problems.
>>46223005
I have a 7950 and I've had few problems other than some minor driver bugs
meanwhile fuck these captchas
>>46223020
Probably in the future, who knows. For now though, they haven't fixed shit, and they haven't said shit about Linux regarding making proper drivers for the gentoo people out there.
>>46223005
What brand 7950 did you get?
>>46223030
what the fuck did they even think with these captchas
>>46223037
XFX, single fan, i had no choice for that the version with dual fans ran out of stock
>>46223005
Heres the story of a guy like you, me
>always had amd my entire life
>after 6-8 cards over the last 15 years I buy a 7970, the top of amd at the time
>its a 3 slotter asus
>it runs hot as fuck and its taking up 3 slots
>software issues out the ass
>take back and bring home a gtx670
>notice after 6 months that I had no gpu problems for 6 months the first time in my life
I'll gladly pay that extra.
>>46222914
all the "Hawaii" architecture AMD GPU's (260X,285, 290, 290X) have full DX12 support and the last gen architectures have partial DX12 support
>Wrong again, AMDPOORFAG shill! All the reviews show AMD being extremely power inefficient and it shows
Running stock 1000/1300 my Sapphire Tri-X draws only 215watts of power and I have just proven in this post
>>46222823
that to achieve identical performance the gtx 970 needs to be overclocked to well over 1400mhz (core) and over 1800mhz (memory)
wanna know how much power a gtx 970 under full load draws at that clockspeed? 226watts!
this is the kind of bullshit im talking about people! these fuckers just straight up LIE to your face!
>>46222633
Nvidia and its 4chan brand loyalist JDF is trying to create a monopoly which would drive the prices of GPUs up and performance down.
Many users on 4chan as customers understand the competition between major GPU companies is good for us and are not retarded brand loyalists.
I buy AMD or Nvidia based on price/performance on my budget level at the time of purchase. Tho atm i'm a bit biased towards AMD because nvidia is clearly ahead in the race.
tl, dr: brand loyalists are fagits who want us to have more expensive cards with lesser performance.
>>46223052
I got a sapphire dual fan
it still works fine, I've got it OC'd and crossfired with a 280
somehow it hasn't blown my 620w psu
>>46223052
>single fan
There's your problem.
If you want better performance, temps and price and technologies with support, get a 970. If you're willing to see what AMD has to bring o the table at your price point, don't get the 290, wait for the 380X or 390.
>>46223052
I have a friend who bought two XFX AMD cards and both were shit. Fan started to rattle on one and the other was just unstable.
My Sapphire and ASUS cards have treated me well though.
My personal opinion is that you should stay way from XFX.
>>46223025
Mine only whines when in a menu where the fps can reach 200+
>>46223065
Wrong, Hawaii does not support any of the new Direct3D 12 features, stop lying if you're a clueless faggot that doesn't understand shit, AMDPOORFAG shill
>>46223052
I've never had much luck with XFX. The Sapphire HD 3870 I have still works though.
Before anyone calls me an AMD fag, I currently use a GTX 780 and love it. I've used an equal amount of nvidia/AMD cards and have had an equal amount of good/bad experiences with them. TBH the card manufacturer will have more impact than anything.
AMD: Stay the fuck away from HIS, XFX, and Diamond.
>>46223059
I love my GTX670 as well, anon.
Although I didn't have any problems with the one AMD card I owned.
>>46222988
please. stop this maymay ):
>>46223085
i will never touch a XFX again, card was just obnoxious, nosy, hot as hell, part of me is glad that thing is dead.
>>46223065
Wrong again, GTX 970 is faster and uses less power while supports Direct3D 12 new hardware features , stay mad AMDPOORFAG and enjoy your HOUSEFIRES sauna
>>46223069
>tl, dr: brand loyalists are fagits who want us to have more expensive cards with lesser performance.
I-I just want to watch the world burn, a-a-anon.
AMDPOORFAG defense force sure is AMD and butthurt since Maxwell release last year
They need over 150W more to achieve less performance than the GTX 980/GTX 970
>>46223100
The GTX 970 and R9 290 trade blows, anon. This is well known.
>hurr durr power
The difference between non-reference 970's and R9 290's is extremely small.
muh physx
>>46223005
i think ill get a 970, as i found a Zotac for 300€
is Zotac a good brand ?
>>46223116
>actually responding to that retard
I just get the feeling that the nvidia shills have resorted to making up stories about AMD, either that or there is a lot of people who do look at reviews before they buy a specific shitty card
>>46223129
They're so-so.
>>46222734
>ati
What is?
Linux: AMD OSS (hacker) > nVidia proprietary > AMD OSS (gamer) > Intel OSS > AMD proprietary > nVidia OSS
Sure, nVidia's drivers work well, by overwriting system libraries with their own where AMD fruitlessly tried to keep up with the distribution's. But a side effect is that nVidia fucks up the rest of the community where the WINE-devs make their shit work only with nVidia's proprietary installed.
Thankfully AMD is gradually carving out their proprietary driver and will soon only leave a stump. The OSS drivers work pretty well provided you get the very latest ones, e.g. Linux 3.18 and Mesa 10.4.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2014/10/30/4_weeks_nvidia_geforce_gtx_980_sli/4
>290X CrossFire makes me sweat in a room that is fully air conditioned after a few hours. GTX 980 SLI did not make me sweat. Simple as that.
Enjoy your AMD HOUSEFIRES SAUNA
>>46223065
b8/8
Let's clean up the mess, here.
The 970 has more compute power, and gets straight up higher FPS in games, and is known to be way more stabile.
>>46222979
Compared to Nvidia, AMD has bad everything. Nvidia is a company that treats its customers with respect and puts their company name on the line with every box they ship out. I watched a documentary on the Nvidia factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer. It was really incredible that a hardware manufacturer can inspire that level of belonging and sense of family. I dare you to find me another electronics supplier that is as noble and virtuous as Nvidia. In fact it's really just a smack in their face that you would even dare mention AMD in the same breath. That's like having a loving parent who only gives you the best, sacrificing everything for your happiness, and then you going into their room at night and murdering them in cold blood.
>>46223129
they're alright. If you can get a Strix one though, get that.
>>46223151
Compared to AMD, Nvidia has bad everything. AMD is a company that treats its customers with respect and puts their company name on the line with every box they ship out. I watched a documentary on the AMD factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer. It was really incredible that a hardware manufacturer can inspire that level of belonging and sense of family. I dare you to find me another electronics supplier that is as noble and virtuous as AMD. In fact it's really just a smack in their face that you would even dare mention Nvidia in the same breath. That's like having a loving parent who only gives you the best, sacrificing everything for your happiness, and then you going into their room at night and murdering them in cold blood.
>>46223129
Go gigabyte MSI or ASUS for surefire quality
>>46223145
AMD is for kids who don't pay the electric bill. :^)
>>46223134
>le sophisticated coffee meem
Shove it up your bare ass
>>46223151
shilling intensifies
>People hating AMD
Am I really on /g/?
>>46223151
Compared to AMD, Nvidia has bad everything. AMD is a company that treats its customers with respect and puts their company name on the line with every box they ship out. I watched a documentary on the AMD factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer. It was really incredible that a hardware manufacturer can inspire that level of belonging and sense of family. I dare you to find me another electronics supplier that is as noble and virtuous as AMD. In fact it's really just a smack in their face that you would even dare mention Nvidia in the same breath. That's like having a loving parent who only gives you the best, sacrificing everything for your happiness, and then you going into their room at night and murdering them in cold blood.
>>46223181
>being this butthurt over an image
>>46223204
/v/ has invaded /g/ for a while now
>>46223134
>this mad
Ouch.
>>46223024
>The 970 uses a modern architecture and is extremely well regarded in the tech community at the moment, as the best high-end card at that price.
>Temps are lower, alas bringing noise levels down
Coil whine........
>coil whine is much less likely,
every single youtube video showing a 970 and every forum discussing 970's would disagree with you
>it can go 2-way sli with just a 750w psu,
a standard build with current gen components and two 290's in crossfire with have a total power draw of less than 700watts under load at stock clocks and will give you another 50 watts of headroom for overclcocking but by all means keep lying through your fucking teeth asshole
>and it supports some very feature packing technologies that AMD just don't include, like G-Sync support, VXGI and MFAA.
Freesync is 90% cheaper than G-sync and has a wider variation curve (can handle drops as low as 9fps)
MFAA is a hack attempt at making a proprietary AA filters that doesnt drain GPU cycles and bad as MSAA does and it looks terrible Anyone gaming on PC is using (SMAA) anyway if you guys arent i strongly recommend you start doing so
VXGI has not been implemented yet or even demoed in any tech show so please stop trying to sell people on some imaginary bullshit feature that has not even been shown to be functional yet because nivida would never lie or embellish their features right guys?
they......simply.......cannot stop.......lying......about......everything!
>>46223005
I've been using a Powercolor 7870 since January 2013. I've yet to experience any problems and it never runs hotter than 65C on load, fan is a bit noisy though.
>>46223244
>BUTTMAD AMDFAG DETECTED
Ignore this clueless moron, Maxwell is faster than Hawaii HOUSEFIRES, runs cool and quite, uses over 100W less power, supports Direct3D 12 new hardware features, HDMI 2.0, 3 DisplayPort 1.2 and doesn't make you sweat in an air-conditioned room
>>46223244
>2 290s
>750w psu
Build a system and OC them, anon. Ser what happens :^)
>everything else
Ouch, my butt hurts, anon :^( all og your facts are overwhelmingly correct and precise :-((((((((
>>46223280
100 watts over a year is ~$87@$0.10/kWh
http://techreport.com/news/27000/amd-only-certain-new-radeons-will-work-with-freesync-displays
>That means brand-new cards like the Radeon R9 280, 280X, 270, and 270X won't be FreeSync-capable. Nor will any older Radeons in the HD 7000 and 8000 series. AMD tells us these prior-gen GPUs don't have the necessary support for the latest DisplayPort standard.
TOPPEST LELKEK, AMDPOORFAGS
>>46223168
>>46223220
Oh my god I just can't. You are so disgusting that I don't even have the words. Do you really think that mocking Nvidia is funny? Don't you realize that even with all of the evil things you've said that Nvidia still wouldn't abandon you? That's alone shows me how much they care about the customer. I mean, if I ever went broke or hit rock bottom, do you think I'd call a friend to bail me out?!? Do you think I'd call my parents?!?! No, I'd fucking call Nvidia. They're the only family that anybody ever needs.
Holy shit I'm actually crying now.
>>46222940
kek
>>46223313
>>46223151
Compared to AMD, Nvidia has bad everything. AMD is a company that treats its customers with respect and puts their company name on the line with every box they ship out. I watched a documentary on the AMD factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer. It was really incredible that a hardware manufacturer can inspire that level of belonging and sense of family. I dare you to find me another electronics supplier that is as noble and virtuous as AMD. In fact it's really just a smack in their face that you would even dare mention Nvidia in the same breath. That's like having a loving parent who only gives you the best, sacrificing everything for your happiness, and then you going into their room at night and murdering them in cold blood.
>>46222935
Nah, i just got a good deal on a second hand 770... It was cheaper than a new 280x (i wanted to avoid second hand AMDs cause of bitcoin mining)
>>46223310
>brand-new cards like the Radeon R9 280, 280X, 270, and 270X
>7950, 7979, 7850 and 7870
>brand new
>>46222940
10/10
>>46223280
>display port 1.2
How is that adaptive vsync?
>>46223145
your opinions do not trump my FACTS
you might as well be this guy
>>46223092
>>46223100
>>46223112
>>46223280
I have yet to see any of you actually refute my arguments which makes Nivida look very bad to any rational person reading through this thread
I am giving data from actual benchmarks that i have run my self on a 970 and 290 that i own. I am listing actual power draws that I have personally tested on the hardware MYSELF.
and your only response is to cry "AMDPOORFAGLELELE"
really? You guys are actually making the perfect argument for buying AMD because if someone buys nvidia they might end up like you annoying, Luddite retards...
go back the /v/
>>46223342
>not sure if b8 or this new
>>46222914
sauce or gtfo my board you filthy shillL0rd cunt
>>46223342
Ever thought that naming yourself "amd is better" and marketing their shit here claiming you run these tests yourself puts you into the BIASED FUCK category, and nobody will believe you because we have no way to confirm your numbers, since its only you claiming them?
I mean I dont give a shit either way, software/driver issues drove me away from amd which you clearly disregard completely, I just dont see how you expect to be taken seriously.
>>46223342
They are just payed to do this. The nvidia shilling is INSANE. Even lediit doesnt have so much shills.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/8544/microsoft-details-direct3d-113-12-new-features
>>46223307
Ive already done it
the system i build had the following
>i5-4960k
>MSI z97 mob
>4tb WD green drive
>128gb 850pro
>two saphire 290's in crossfire
>Noctua NH-D15 Radiator
>case fans and other peripherals
and the total power draw? 687watts at full load
got the i5 to 4ghz and the 290's to 1200mhz before the 750watts PSU started choking
see? when you make baseless claims i return with motherfucking FACTS!!
>>46223342
AMDPOORFAGLELELE
GO BACK TO YOUR HOUSEFIRE
>>46223366
yet you sit in the camp with the meme spouting retard
>>46223342
You're a moron and it shows, so go ahead and keep using your AMD HOUSEFIRES sauna, no one gives a fuck about your lying shilling ways
>>46223342
Go back to your HOUSEFIRE
I have an erection
>>46223382
tell us more lies you HOUSEFIRE SAUNA FAGGOT SHILL
>>46223383
>>46223391
>>46223424
Samefag, also nvidia shill.
>>46223499
>samefag
>not being able to call out obvious samfagging
i'm one of those 3 replies, faggot shill.
AMD housefire shills are disgusting
>>46223512
So there are 2 shills, not one. More efficient spamming.
>>46223389
Am I?
And what do you base that on?
>>46223526
well anon, that's a very good and valid question.
Finally someone one 4chan with some sense.
That's because youre a FUCKING HOUSEFIRE AMDFOORFAGALELELE SHILL FAGGOT
>>46223526
are you running a filter? can you not see the immense ni/v/idia shilling faggotry going on in this thread?
>>46223537
>>46223521
>>46223424
>>46223391
>>46223383
>>/v/
Fucking nvidia shills are ruining /g/. Go do your marketing somewhere else, disgusting.
>>46223537
>>46223526
hahahHAAAHAAH
the Shills are attacking their own people now!!
I really hope you are getting paid by nivida to do this shit because if you're not then this is sad
>>46222633
People like to fight over things. Done. That's all there is to it.
>>46223544
>ni/v/idia
bad housefire trying, anon.
>>46223544
I can see a lot of trolling but I dont pay attention to any post thats obviously written to just infuriate and provoke a response.
And not that I'm a scholar or something I think
>>46223366
is not exactly in the meme spouting shill category of a post
>>46223564
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>>46223005
I bought a 980 G1 form gigabyte. Reason is that i play alot of arma 3 which hates SLI so i wanted the fastest singe core gpu.
If you are looking at the 970 get the strix from ASUS. it is regarded as the very best of the 970's. Im not trying to shill as i only have gigabyte hw right now, but ASUS is one heck of a cool company.
>>46223613
>strix
Is the pricing so different over there? The strix has an extra 25% markup compared to a gigabyte one, thats pretty silly.
>>46223613
You know what's one heck of a cool company? Nvidia.
Everyone needs to buy Nvidia, because if they don't then AMD will take over the global market and rip everyone off.
>>46223661
and then we'll be living with forest BURNING AND HOUSEFIRES ALELELELE
>>46223613
>fasted single core GPU
I can say for certain because i have no 980 to test but based on the performance ive seen between the 290 and the 970 i would not be shocked at all to see a similar situation where the 980 has to be overclocked to beat a stock 290X
>>46223613
i have strix and it produces 0dB until 67c, thats cool, but idles are bit higher than msi and gigabyte because of that
>>46223613
I hope that you have an Intel processor to go with that card. Nvidia works best when paired with Intel processors.
>>46223674
oh fuck you are stupid
>>46223674
low quality b8
>>46223661
STRIX is very quiet and cool.
Linus made it go +100 mhz on its clock and its was the card out of all the 970's they made go fastest.
I just got the 980 so i have read and talked to allot of people that mount and use cards like this every day. All say the 970 is the best.
If you have no need to buy the very best, then the 960 is a very good choice aswell for the budget gamer.
>>46223690
well if you bothered to read me earlier posts
>>46222813
>>46222823
and a bro made a picture and finished it for me
>>46222828
>>46223674
AHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHA
>>46223674
But then again, AMD makes shit cards and shit drivers for shit games. There are easier ways to create a bluescreen than installing a thousand dollar graphicscard.
>>46223683
I7 5820K and some shitty DDR4 ram.
>>46223342
>really? You guys are actually making the perfect argument for buying AMD because if someone buys nvidia they might end up like you annoying, Luddite retards...
Pretty much
>Shills
>Shills everywhere
>>46223735
a waste of money a solid i5 4690k would have fed a 980 even two 980's in SLI
if your not using that chip to edit UHD video you wasted your money
>>46223800
the b8 continues.
kek
My drier uses less power!
>>46223814
This HEDT master race.
>>46223800
>4690k
>not 4690
>implying you're going to overclock
>>46223820
>implying TDP = power consumption
>>46223800
using it for multiple VM's. You are an idiot.
>>46223820
>tdp
>power consumption
choose one.
Two rival manufacturers, and children whose parents only get them one brand.
>>46223864
You are actually using an Intel processor to run virtual machines?
>pic related
>>46223919
nice pic, housefire shill.
>>46223919
your idiocy made me get to post the picture
honestly, al nvidia fanboys are faggots.
allahu akbar.
>captcha: PLS
AMDs are better for emulators
Nvidia is good for modern stuff like drivers
>>46223181
>bear ass
You called anon?
>>46223935
they know that you are not me so that wont work
I'd rather have a housefire than low FPS/poor drivers, novidia scum
>>46223999
nice trips, but i'm the real one.
>>46224123 (not me)
cute
>>46224215
n-no u
>>46223613
Only issue with Asus is their RMA department. I'd buy from some place like amazon that will take a return no questions asked. Soon as I got the card I'd run it hard for 24hrs in valley or something just to make sure it was good to go.
If you have to end up dealing with Asus RMA expect a 6 week turn around if they do it at all.
>>46223864
Jelly of that view MrZone
>>46222808
You know what drives consumerism?
Good products.
AMD/ATI:
-Multiple driver issues (GPU not being detected at all after OS reinstall, drivers crashing, refusal to install said drivers, bsods)
-Slow, loud and meh
-If it eventually starts working it gives pretty stable experience (but it takes days to get it to work properly + possible OS reinstall)
Nvidia:
-Gives jittery performance, but faster than AMD in general, so it doesn't matter as much
-Drivers have no problems actually working (along with switchable graphics too, which is another AMD problem)
-Just werks, easier to use
-Control panel seems retarded in comparison to AMD's
Overall I prefer Nvidia + Intel (CPU) combo, since AMD is just not worth it. Sure, it's cheaper, but in the long run you just get sub par hardware.
BUT HEY APUS RIGHT?
>>46224359
Oh yeah, and it never "just werks" on linux.
It's like a retarded baby you have to take care of all the time (Official drivers, fuck your free alternatives that give 5% the performance)
>>46224359
>Control panel seems retarded in comparison to AMD's
Yep, why does it look like its from 1999?
Compared to AMD, Nvidia has bad everything. AMD is a company that treats its customers with respect and puts their company name on the line with every box they ship out. I watched a documentary on the AMD factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer. It was really incredible that a hardware manufacturer can inspire that level of belonging and sense of family. I dare you to find me another electronics supplier that is as noble and virtuous as AMD. In fact it's really just a smack in their face that you would even dare mention Nvidia in the same breath. That's like having a loving parent who only gives you the best, sacrificing everything for your happiness, and then you going into their room at night and murdering them in cold blood.
>>46224359
>-Multiple driver issues (GPU not being detected at all after OS reinstall, drivers crashing, refusal to install said drivers, bsods)
>-If it eventually starts working it gives pretty stable experience (but it takes days to get it to work properly + possible OS reinstall)
Ive been using many MANY AMD/ATI cards since 2000 and i have never dealt with any of this after 2008 so please give me an example of a AMD card in the last 5-6years that has had a driver problem and what was the problem? (be specific)
>-Slow, loud and meh
are you referring to the reference cards? no one uses reference cards my Saphires are all cool and quiet and overclock very well
>slow
just got done comparing a 970 and a 290 early in this thread so scroll back and read it my posts are the big essays
>>46224373
It's more like 40% now with GCN hardware.
Still bad compared to fglrx and Nvidia, but least it just werks
Quick question that might sound stupid
If my computer is turned on but I'm not watching anything or playing anything should the GPU fan still be spinning?
I think it should be but it is not, and when I watch anything my computer crashes after about 5 minutes so it could be the GPU overheating because the fan is broken
I use MPC-hc with madvr to watch stuff
>>46224433
that's really specific on the GPU, there's no "standard" for it. Some programs let you adjust your fan curves on your gpu fans if you've got something like MSI or Asus cards.
But yeah, it's pretty standard. Only silence-optimized cards like the Strix cards like stopping their fans completely.
>captcha: reekd
>>46224413
>I watched a documentary on the AMD factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer.
I fucking laughed at your stupidity, this is how propaganda worked at USSR
>>46224384
Apparently you need a compatible mobo to get all it's features or some shit. I've seen screens like that on the offiial website and they mention that fact.
Which blows.
>>46224418
5470M
It was not detected by AMD's autodetect and wasn't even seen by windows.
After reinstalling it magically "popped" back into the os.
Weird as fuck.
Also had problems installing the drivers, everything else installed BUT it.
So fuck yeah, using catalyst without the driver, lol
It's just matter of comparisons I've looked up between that model and similar range nvidia gpus, I don't really have them since I did my research like two years ago and now I have a new laptop so I don't really care as much.
It really depends from the program. Overall I've had a better experience with Nvidia cards and that's why I'm just going to stick with them. If you want to use AMD, go ahead.
>>46224455
>not getting the joke
Compared to Nvidia, AMD has bad everything. Nvidia is a company that treats its customers with respect and puts their company name on the line with every box they ship out. I watched a documentary on the Nvidia factory a few years back and each card was patted longingly by the floor manager himself before being packed up by emotional workmen and sent out to a happy customer. It was really incredible that a hardware manufacturer can inspire that level of belonging and sense of family. I dare you to find me another electronics supplier that is as noble and virtuous as Nvidia. In fact it's really just a smack in their face that you would even dare mention AMD in the same breath. That's like having a loving parent who only gives you the best, sacrificing everything for your happiness, and then you going into their room at night and murdering them in cold blood.
>>46224433
>nd when I watch anything my computer crashes after about 5 minutes so it could be the GPU overheating because the fan is broken
Fuck sake man.
Do the following-
1) install gpu-z, go to the sensors tab and look at the temperature monitors
2) Do whatever it is you normally do while monitoring the temps (run games in a window)
3) If temps suddenly spike upwards like 20c then yes, your shit is probably broken.
3a) Strix cards need not apply.
>>46224420
You mean 80-110%.
>>46224449
>>46224474
Yep it's rekt
This is with only internet and file explorer opened and the fan isn't spinning looking at ti now
Thanks for the help
I still have a 460. If I was to upgrade to a mid range card right now, which should I go for? (aware the 960 is shit tier).
>>46224464
I don't have time to read your 400 word "jokes" well enough to understand them
>>46224418
>I have never dealt with any of this after 2008 so please give me an example of a AMD card in the last 5-6years that has had a driver problem and what was the problem? (be specific)
Sapphire Vapor-x 7950 boost
Steam segfaults if you got a dual-monitor setup
No v-sync on the desktop, even worse on secondary monitor. It's so bad if you scroll, then the text will literally jump a few hundred pixels.
Many games will either run extremely poorly, or not at all. Mount and Blade Warband and Metro 2033 + Last Light, are just a few examples.
DVI-0 is apparently DVI-1 and DVI-1 is apparently DVI-0, else no matter what you put in the xorg.conf file, you won't get the expected result
>turn monitor 90 degrees
>monitor actually turns 270 degrees
This is with fglrx, so still AMD's official driver.
Perhaps you were referring to "just" the Windows version of Catalyst, but you still said AMD hasn't had driver problems, and that obviously is just plain false.
>>46224492
That's true with the r600 hardware, but not with radeonsi. Not yet
>>46224315
I returned my 3 year old 690 that kinda broke and got 950 USD back from komplett.no and used that to buy the 980. Norwagian law says that computer parts should last 5 years. That way i returned the 690 and they returned the money 5 days after they got it.
>>46224325
Hemsedal, Norway. Pic related
>>46224497
have a 2000-character one then, to simplify:
>clears throat
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>46223987
post twink ass
>>46222761
>but muh phys-x
>>46222761
>temps
>noise
>drivers
>physx
>cuda
>vxgi
>mfaa
>cross-OS support
>you can now install /g/entoo without your drivers fucking up
>hello AMD
>b-but amd is 10 dollars cheaper
poorfags can't afford ards that're built well, and aren't just 3-year old rebranded 7900-series cards. Enjoy your electrical bills and needs for higher wattage psus.
>>46224327
>You know what drives consumerism?
>good products
Are you from another universe ?
How am I supposed to choose between AMD and Nvidia when all you faggots do is throw shit at each other. Fuck it, I will just read reviews.
>>46224604
or you could read the thread, where amd xXx POORFAG SHILLS ALELELE HOUSEFIRE SAUNAS HAIRDRIERS 2000 xXx BURN THEIR HOUSES ALALLAALALALA ALLAHU AKBAR
>>46224615
Prime example why someone should chose AMD over nvidia. The latter turns you into creatures like this one.
>>46222734
talking shit.
virtualization in Linux (with XEN and VGA passthrough for playing games in guest OS) is WAY simpler with ATI than NVidia... almost all ATI cards support virtualization.. not the same with nVidia. (only some professional ones)
personally, Nvidia vs ATI is the same as Intel vs AMD....
better price/performance ratio and more power consumption (and heating) on AMD/ATI vs first monopoly holders that (nevertheless) have good hardware but abuse they're dominant position to put the prices they want.
as i'm a cheap bastard who likes to spend my money in the best way, AMD and ATI ftw
>>46224604
posts like >>46222889 has made up my mind
>>46224625
Yep. This is just ridiculous. As an Nvidia owner, I feel embarrassed
>>46224625
>>46224635
>not getting obvious jokes
been lurking so far, but if you seriously don't have a sense of sarcasm, 4chan may not be your bet place to be.
>>46224615
I have been reading the thread, people make so many claims and personal attacks at each other and the one who's screams the loudest seems to be the one who wins.
But no one has won yet.
>>46222772
people still buy up Apple products even though they are shit
>>46224639
But if you disregarded all sarcasm in this thread, all you would get, would be posts promoting AMD cards.
Not a single post mentions why you should choose to go with Nvidia. None at all
>>46224633
>personally, Nvidia vs ATI is the same as Intel vs AMD....
fuck off
intel is just better then AMD now except in specific cases
AMD beats NVIDIA in performance though.
The Nvidia shills sure are having to work some serious overtime to offset #970gate.
>>46224639
>but if you seriously don't have a sense of sarcasm
newsflash: sarcasm is not a concept if you can't see or hear the person saying it.
>>46224639
Sarcasm? There are literally tens of posts like this in this thread. And there is no sarcasm in them. Even if yours was, its getting hard to distinguish people who joke from the shills who actually spam this non stop.
man I hate card releases.these threads are cancerous as fuck
I've tried to filter GPU,Nvidia,AMD but half the board dissapears
>>46224496
Help please anyone?
>>46224720
280,280x with good cooler, a 770 if you can find cheaper
A 290 would be best but that would probably involve selling yourself if it's budget you are seeking
>>46224701
how do you use filters with wildcards?
>>46224734
Is it not worth waiting for the 300 series? I was looking at the 280x, is the MSI version a good cooler?
>>46223069
>Tho atm i'm a bit biased towards AMD because nvidia is clearly ahead in the race.
So would that bias change if/when AMD "is clearly ahead in the race?"
It is understandable (though arguably not rational) to root for the underdog but it is also plausible that you suffer from "brand loyalty" as well given your own admission if that's not it.
>>46224751
is it really brand loyalty if he flip-flops to stand under the banner of whatever brand is leading?
>>46224750
Of course it is,I was just suggesting if you were really eager to change now.
I don't know about MSI's cooler,but I read on a review somewhere that it has a lower memory/clock speed in comparison with other cards.
I have the Sapphire Tri-X Toxic,which doesn't get much loud and it has nice temperatures.
>>46222633
>Summarize this age old war to someone new into PC hardware.
War. War never changes. Every few months each company presents a new family of cards that raises the bar and often the price. We're currently in a prolonged lull with a extended platform based upon 28nm dies. Currently nVidia is ahead with the recently released Maxwell cards but AMD is expected to regain competitiveness if not the lead with their next release sometime this year. Then nVidia will likely release refined versions of their current family of cards followed by AMD's refined versions. . . War never changes.
>>46224768
>to stand under the banner of whatever brand is leading?
By his own admission he is _not_ standing undre the banner of the brand that is leading. Thus why I quoted his current bias.
>>46224789
Thanks. I only really play league ATM but that will change when I pick up a new card. I could either get an MSI 280x for £180 or a sapphire tri x 290 for £215, is the difference worth it in your opinion?
>>46223674
>>46224751
>So would that bias change if/when AMD "is clearly ahead in the race?
Yes
>It is understandable (though arguably not rational) to root for the underdog
I just fucking hate monopoly, see Microsoft, I'm forced to either purchase it or suffer. I don't want to see the same happen to GPU landscape.
>but it is also plausible that you suffer from "brand loyalty" as well given your own admission if that's not it.
I assure you all my cards were nvidia before the one i'm using now which is 7850 which i purchased 1,5 years ago when it was the best bang for buck in that price range. As a side not 2/4 of the nvidia cards ive owned have crapped out prematurely, but that might have been a shitty PSU.
>>46222875
>>46222889
>>46222914
>>46222925
>>46222995
>>46223092
>>46223100
>>46223112
>>46223310
>>46223383
Wow, I wonder if this is a full grown man. Embarrassing
>>46225201
Also, having brand loyalty, grow up.
>Living in Hungary, Taxes everywhere
>Theres literally $15-20 difference in the cheapest R9 280X and GTX 960
>>46224819
For 35£? Hell yeah. You may want to play more demanding games in the future or even a higher resolution and the 290 with the tri-x will be a great purchase.
I know how hard it is to get stuff here in Yurop and that price seems great.
Both companies are just fronts for ancient secret societies. This is a battle that goes back to the earliest years of recorded history. Turn back while you still can.
>>46225243
Awesome! Also, will the 290 be alright on a 600W PSU? Also running an i5 750 oc'ed to 3.2 ghz
>>46225274
Almost 500 Euro.... for a GTX 770
Thats 316,60 $ in here. Nigga, you must searched the most expensive way to buy that
>>46222755
citation...
>>46225286
Yes. Just get a quality PSU, atleast bronze Plus and with a good 12V rail.XFX,Seasonic,the higher corsair series,they are all good.
>>46225299
Yeah I actually did.What I don't understand is that in that same shop that card was 282€, and after the 970 got released the price doubled...
>>46225286
I wouldn't overclock a 290 much on a 600w psu as they get thirsty fast, but a tri-x is one of the top 290 models (the vapor-x is the best but requires 2x8pin connectors vs the 6+8pin the tri-x uses).
>>46225445
I think he was talking about the CPU being OC'ed, not the card m8
>>46225450
Yes but the cpu overclock draws fuck all extra power - any gpu overclock is going to eat watts fast.
>>46225442
Grabbed a Corsair CX600M so it's all good.
>>46225445
Odd that it's one of the top 290's when on amazon and ebuyer they are comfortably the cheapest. Depending on my itch to upgrade I'll either wait for the 300 series or buy a 290. Thanks /g/
>>46225569
CX is shit psu
>>46225569
Sapphire hit a home run with their hawaii coolers. Maybe they don't have a rep like MSI and crew? I cannot say but the tri-x is by far the best reviewed card of the "cheap" 290's.
What's the point of getting a 290x when it's barely better than a 290?
>>46222772
How come they have so little when AMD is in both current consoles?
>>46223024
>970
>coil whine is much less likely
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
970 is probably the most notorious coilwhining card of all time, besides shit like the 6990
>>46224633
Vga pass through works flawlessly no matter what card. It passes the entire pcie bus to the guest.
>>46223309
it's more like $14 if you game for ~4 hours a day on average
you're not running your GPU at full push 24/7
Guys I wanted a summary of nvidia vs amd not just the current gen
>>46225687
Premium price for the top card.
When I bought my 290x a few months back it was only around 60 shekels more expensive thana 290 so I splurged out. Not long after 290's came down in price (but the 290x didn't) so the gap grew making it harder to suggest the 290x.
Nowadays though if someone wants a high end card the 290x lightning (i.e best 290x money can buy) is absurdly cheap given how much of a monster overclocker it is.
>>46222633
Bloods vs. Crips, still both niggin.
>>46225784
If you're looking for history on both, then its a very complex history.
Nvidia had shit history. Bunch of GPU hardware deaths. Current 970 looks troubling with vram issue.
AMD has issues with power consumption but generally has a very stable and good performance. They are very price competitive. Their main flaw is power draw. Its not that much in terms of monthly bill or even yearly bill, but its enough that people are unnecessarily worrying about.
Woodscrews being tossed into a fire.
>>46222772
How is that?
If anything this speaks against Nvidia.
Nvidia is doing so well because they sell their overpriced undervalued cut down shit to people for insane prices and their marketing makes sure people buy it.
Amd on the other end has to put actual Value in their cards, especially for the money since they have a bad rep. because of Nvidias insane marketing.
Stupid shills
>>46224639
>>46222633
Nvidia if you actually want optimization, AMD if good power/price. Seriously I have an r9 270x and the gt 750 I had will run some stuff better.
I always feel left out with these threads- as a Linux user, my choice is made for me.
>inb4 AMDGPU
I'll believe it when I see it. Right now I'm thinking it's just going to be a basic restructure to support Mir and Wayland rather than a new approach.
>>46223020
The two guys who did the Linux driver got rolled into the main driver crew. For now, there will likely be growing pains, but Linux should see improvements in speed before too long.
>>46222633
9600 was god tier.
AMD is the best bang for your buck
nvidia locks shit down
AMD cares about your freedom to a degree.
It's obvious who you should go for.
