Simple Yes or No question:
Do you have Any illegal file on your computer?
In my country, yes.
>>45812724
>ones and zeroes are illegal
no.
Downloading music and movies is 100% legal in my country.
My entire Windows partition is illegal.
>>45812741
Actually, no, it's not. At all. If you're staying within a country or municipality that has its own set of laws, that is. Morality is subjective, legality is not.
>>45812741
> I don't know what the word subjective means
The law is objective. Morality might be subjective but legality is objective.
Still saging a shitty thread.
>>45812724
What counts as a file?
Is a chunk of data, not visible in my filesystem, recently removed but still recoverable a file?
Are files stored in base64 and then in names of directories count as a file>
>>45812814
But 4chan is international. We don't have flags like /int/.
>>45812724
My hd is encrypted so I guess it can be seen as a single, giant load of crap. Is that illegal?
1tb yify collection.
>>45812724
what a lucky ant to get so much ass
I once wrote Adobe® Photoshop® in an inappropriate manner and it's probably still in a log file inside an old hdd.
So I would say that I ended have an illegal file. I already told Adobe® and paid a fine, hopefully this will be enough to mitigate any further legal situations.
>>45812724
Not so fast NSA
>>45812891
It's not considered illegal to have encrypted files, otherwise tons of companies would be in trouble.
File encryption exists mainly for enterprise and critical systems security not for cheese pizza consumers.
>>45812724
Nope. Feels good, not because I think man's law has authority over me, but I am a minority. A special snowflake in winter wonderland of yellow snow.
who the fuck cares about legality of data? you realize that there are more important things to worry about right? like paying bills or going outside for once in your life so that your pale skin doesn't just go transparent. you don't want to become an anthropomorphized angler fish do you?
>>45812724
Yes but not intentionally. I downloaded a file that turned out to be a porn video of a little girl. I denounced the file but forgot where I kept it or the name it had and now I die a little inside every time someone borrows my computer.
Of course i have, shittons of music, movie, software
All files on my computer are illegal because there exists an algorithm which can transform/combine my files into top secret government documents and secret encryption keys.
>>45813030
illegal action=/=illegal subject
>>45812724
Yes. My entire office suite is pirated, including some CAD software.
Nope. All are legitimate copies of stuff I brought but lost in a tragic house fire (as per the law in my country).
>>45813015
You might want to do a search on your computer and delete it.
>arranging 0s and 1s into certain patterns means you deserve to locked in a cage
statism, not even once
No, I don't.
I always pirated shit since the '80s. Nowadays I pay for all the stoopid shit like the movies in a weird sense of "paying back" somehow.
While most of the crap today aren't even worth paying for. Robocop 2014 anyone? I wouldn't buy that shit for even a dollar.
Wish I could go back in time and feed all these fucking coins I have now into Robotron and Williams pinball machines again.
>>45813086
>arranging the molecules that make up your body in such a way that it kills someone means you deserve to be locked in a cage
Shiggy diggy
No data can be illegal. If it were, it would mean that information is illegal, since a sequence of 0 and 1 is just "information".
So, data can't be illegal per se, in the year of our lord 2011+3(+1).
It can be illegal the way you used to obtain that data, at least in certain countries.
It can be illegal the fact that you store or use some kind of data if you're not allowed for it, at least in certain countries.
But you always have to separate actions performed over the data from the data itself. Otherwise, we'd have a new Middle Age. Only actions, performed by a human being, can be illegal. Not data.
>>45813122
Yeah except you can literally just write a certain arrangement of 1s and 0s onto a piece of paper resulting in the state saying you deserve to be locked in a cage.
no NSA-sama, i do not
again i thank you for love and protection, NSA-sama
>>45813188
if you wrote "I want to kill the president" in ASCII form, binary, or hex, its still the same overall idea.
What are you getting at?
>>45813213
That that's ridiculous?
>>45812814
>>45812819
legality is subjective on the interpretations of the law and whether the state that is in place is even legal itself.
Define
>Illegal
If I have a patent or copyright on a certain arrangement of 1s and 0s, I own the rights to that arrangement. So if one of you fucks uses/saves/downloads/distributes my arrangement of 1s and 0s, that is stealing my intellectual property and you do deserve to be locked up.
But keep circlejerking your justification for being poor and not paying for other people's work.
Or, for once in your pathetic lives, do something that isn't detrimental to society.
>>45813250
underage girls engaged in lewd or sexual acts
>>45813229
I'm not saying the law isn't ridiculous, but the presentation of breaking the said law doesn't change the outcome.
Yes.
>>45813188
It is not the collection of 1s and 0s that is inherently illegal, it is the intent behind them.
>implying you aren't just a troll
>>45813015
Main problem is, why'd you wanna lend your computer to other people?
I live on Mars we have no laws here yet
>>45813308
What do you do during the time delays when sending transmissions to earth?
>>45813270
>Suppose I compose a poem and recite it to you. As a result, you learn the poem by heart. In effect, there is now a copy of the poem stored in your brain. Who owns that copy?
>The only answer must be: you do. You own yourself; you own your brain and the contents of your brain. If I owned the copy in your brain, then I would be a part owner of your brain, which would make you a partial slave – which is morally untenable.
>Now in addition to owning your brain and the poem stored within, you also own, let’s suppose, a pen and some paper. You use your pen to transcribe onto the paper the poem that’s stored in your head. Now there are two copies of my poem in your possession: one in your brain and one on the paper. Who owns the second copy?
>Once again, you do. You produced that second copy using nothing but factors that you owned: your paper, your pen, and your brain (with your neuron-encoded first copy of my poem). That second copy is yours – to keep, to burn, or to transfer.
>But if owning an abstract object means owning all the instances, then it means my owning the copy of my poem in your brain. In that case, intellectual property is a form of slavery. If slavery is illegitimate, then so is intellectual property.
>Either intellectual property means slavery, or it means nothing at all.
>>45813270
What if I... reverse the bits? Like11000 => 00011does the copyright still holds?
The files themselves are not illegal
They do, however serve as evidence of an illegal activity i.e. downloading or keeping the file
Just like a dead body is not illegal but making one is
>>45813281
Who is stupid enough to store lewd or sexual pictures of underage girls?
Then no.
>>45812814
In terms of perception and how the question is asked, it can be. For example, the act of downloading copyrighted content, such as a song, from a file sharing source would be illegal, however; the file itself is not.
Things such as CP on the other hand, is generally illegal simply to have it.
So the question is a little broad and vague.
>>45813044
illegal action != illegal subject
>FTFY
>>45813281
I have pictures of my 19 year old girlfriend in lewd / sexual poses, acts, and such...
Is that illegal in your country OP?
If not, then probably not.
>>45813281
>>45813229
>>45813188
>>45813086
>>45812784
>>45813015
Pedophiles detected.
I hope the state should rounds you all up into death camps.
>>45812724
Probably.
>>45813384
Go back to being cucked by your strong independent woman Joot.
>>45813270
Arguing copyright infringement is like arguing who owns the air molecules in your lungs right now.
I know, we do that, in some places. And it's still usually stupid.
actually... no.
i don't. nor do i need anything illegal
i am asking the authorities to resign though.
>>45813397
they can patent molecular structures now.
actually, they've been able to do that for a while
synthetic ones that is.
there is a gradient of ambiguity that is about to befall mankind. physical, philosophical, ideological...
this will trigger chaos.
>>45813384
Oh fuck off white knight.
No one that I've ever actually talked to on /g/ is a pedo.
Some people like loli, but that's fine. No one was harmed in the making of those drawings.
>>45813384
>Look everyone, I'm so self-righteous.
>>45813422
>No one that I've ever actually talked to on /g/ is a pedo.
Newfag detected.
>Some people like loli, but that's fine. No one was harmed in the making of those drawings.
both are fine. Not all sex = harm feminazi.
the only reason anything is illegal in the first place is for the sake of CONTROL
anything can become a norm.
ANYTHING
>>45813422
How long until you're loli no longer satisfies and you crave the real thing?
You need help.
>>45813463
>stop liking what I don't like or I'll lock you in a cage
You need help.
>>45813463
This. Loli is disgusting and immoral.
No. Method of obtaining some has been iilegal but the files as they are? No.
>>45813463
Yeah, this GTA is getting old, I think I'll go steal a car and run over some pedestrians.
>>45813486
>implying raping children is in anyway justifiable
Molyneux, pls.
>>45813420
Yeah, I know.
But copyright infringement is never supposed to be a jailable offense. That's retarded. No good comes of it. Just less exposure of media to people.
If you are making money off someone's copyrighted work, you should be required to stop, and sued for the damages you caused.
If you pirated a song off fucking Limewire, well, enjoy your virus-- I mean music, and everyone should really stop giving a fuck.
>>45813536
>all sex is rape
Anita pls
>>45812724
Only things that would incur large fines or civil lawsuits.
>>45813536
anything can be normalized.
if you saw the pain animals go through when they're being tortured, well, that's a hell of a lot worse.
>but they're just dumb animals... of course.
GET OVER IT
Life is a game of control
and you're a fool if you believe in a universal moral code.
you're a weak fool
>>45813536
>copied images are rape
>>45812724
>Only if you get caught
>>45813601
It's perpetuating rape culture and directly contributes to the rape of children.
>>45813575
No, that makes you a psycho.
no one here has any illegal data. the only data that isn't legal to possess is child porn and other things like that.
movies, tv shows, games, etc. are likely to have been illegally obtained, but that doesn't mean the files themselves are "illegal"
/thread
>>45813631
>no one here has any illegal data. the only data that isn't legal to possess is child porn
exactly
>>45813617
>pirating movies decreases demand for movies
>pirating cp increases demand for cp
No. It would have to come via the internet where there is no security.
Expecting security on the internet is like expecting to squat over a fire wearing a gasoline soaked diaper and not get burned.
I can't think of any file which could serve me which is actually outlawed.
>>45813642
>expecting consistent logic from bluepilled sheep who know nothing but regurgitated government rhetoric
>>45813564
Whether or not children can give informed consent to too hot of a topic. There's no one metric to determine if someone is capable of giving informed consent, thus the current laws with arbitrary age limits. Legally, it is rape if you have sex with someone below the age limit.
>>45813631
Bestiality is very much illegal in South Korea.
>>45813642
>>45813659
Seek help.
>>45813384
look what happened after the holocaust, the jews have all the power now, do you really want that to happen again?
>>45813631
Who says that no one here has cp?
>>45812724
i have some movies but they were given to me by a friend, never downloaded it myself.
He could've gotten it from a big studio for all i know as a gift.
>>45812724
Yes.
>>45813682
LOL Jews have all the power. Kek.
Youre one of "those" retards
>>45812724
I have illegal files in /dev/urandom
>>45813706
good goyim
>>45813706
>not knowing about the ADL, every politician being paid out by rich Jews, Jews owning the media, Jews owning Hollywood, Jewish wealth, Jewish power over Christians (vast numbers in the USA), Jewish influence on foreign policy, Israeli influence in the Middle East, Jewish companies, Jewish money, Jewish politicians
>>45813755
I think you meant to spell "freemasonry".
>>45812724
>>45812724
I don't. I still advocate for privacy.
>>45812724
>on my computer
No
>on one of my tens of removable storage devices
Still no
>>45813630
no. i just analyzed everything that's going on in the world
>>45812724
i've got a driver for vfat installed on my linux partition, so yes
>>45813015
Dude, you should find that file and delete it
Immediately
Let's say I did, how would I go about to remove every single trace of it?
>>45814205
Wipe
Microwave
Fire
Hammer
I'm not a pedophile, no.
>>45814205
In order of paranoia: secure delete it, delete it then overwrite all empty space, DBAN, sledgehammer, thermite.
I downloaded The Interview from one of Sony's servers. Does that count?
>weaboo enters thread being the usual pedophile low life
Typical.
I've downloaded a bunch of little girl panty shot videos from YouTube, but those are all legal...
>>45812724
By the law of my country; no file on my computer is illegal, no matter what it contains.
Guess
>>45813015
If you are incapable of finding it backup what is important and reformat. Immediatly.
Fucking snappening.
Are teen selfies from motherless illegal?
>>45813964
"Everything". Kek.
I suppose you're simply the bane of inteligence then. Anyone with morality must be an idiot, and you're just the grand master genius psycho of this world.
>>45812724
will haram do?
i have images of females parading themselves in the most lewd of ways.
some even have their ankles showing :3
>>45814350
Depends if you want me to load your system
>>45814350
if they contain nudity in any amount, yes
So how many, n percents, were honest enough to say yes?
>>45814365
Bane?!
>>45813015
Something similar happened to me on Tor.
Browsing through this secret Dark Web internetz as a new, a year ago. Came across CP.
Being an anxiety prone person, I have lived in fear ever since.
am I likely to get in trouble? ;_;
Also, No. No files that are illegal.
>>45814378
But isn't nudity like on/off? Even if you have just a sock on, you are not in a state of undress?
![184573_448581325196071_1230275688_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zMn6qed.jpg "184573_448581325196071_1230275688_n[1].jpg")
All of them
>>45814402
Most laws say it depends if genitals are exposed, extending to breasts. the cutoff usually being the nipple.
>>45814400
You're fine. Ive encountered it a few times just browsing 4chan, fragging /b/ trolls like to contaminate other parts of 4chan every now and then.
>>45814426
It was just a list of "onion" links. I had found. I was just going through them and there it was. I was horrified.
I seriously live in fear for this. I am paranoid.
>>45812819
getting fucking literal on a guy who treated to state the obvious fact that in an international board this questions is tricky because in some countries illegal is a book or a downloaded file and in others is either a ''killing the president'' plan or a child porn server, so teh thread is kind of useless because you are actually not answering shit.
Noe, i don't have anything illegal.
>>45814418
the laws need to be revised.
>>45814448
You're a fucking retard and don't belong here.
>>45814459
I'm here to learn. Shoot me.
>>45814455
Are you saying some people should be killed?
>>45814402
nudity is generally considered the showing of sexually-suggestive body locations with little or no clothing. in US culture, this includes the genitals, the ass, and on women, the areolas of the breasts. other cultures may vary (see islam). in some cases, significantly lewd imagery can invoke the same ramifications as nudity.
>>45812724
just torrented media. games/music/movies is all.
only fat losers torrent porn
>>45814448
Lol I'm exactly the same, I feel ya.
>>45814400
not really, the people who run those rings more likely are what FBI are interested in
In my country the only people get caught with CP are people who get reported by people who use their computers
Stupid stuff like having CP on usb key and leaving it at work or having a cousin report it
the files themselves aren't illegal but the means of getting them are
>>45812724
illegal files to allow NSA backdoor into Windows? yeah, still ain't figured out how to close that.
fucking government doing illegal shit.
>>45812724
No.
>>45814488
Sorry man.
>>45814491
I've never downloaded or saved anything. I have no interest in it whatsoever.
>>45812724
So much cp
>>45814482
I'm a fat loser and I don't torrent porn ;_;
Sounds like someone fucked up
>>45813270
keep believing in the group's heart, anon, i see it does wonders for how you approach the world
>>45812724
No, all of my files are completely legal I obtained legally from legal places that are completely legit and legally legal.
>>45813964
If you had to do that, you lack empathy. You are choosing events to focus on in order to justify your coldheartedness.
Psychopaths are mentally retarded. They lack something that the rest of us have.
>>45813270
The current style of Intellectual Property is detrimental to society.
I've got what would be classed as illegal by local 'authorities' documents from Wikileaks. I don't recognise the state though, so law doesn't get recognised whether either.
>>45814455
It's loose, but it usually lets through things like nudist colonies.
never searched it myself, but saw on /b/ a couple days ago on a "Things never to google" thread someone posted something like "Pure nudity" or some shit and everyone that searched it saw tones of nude kids/teens. Because it wasn't inherently sexual in nature laws let it pass, usually.
>>45813488
>immoral is subjective
>>45813463
How many would otherwise look at the real thing if it weren't for loli to tide them over?
When you can look at loli with no consequences or CP with the risk of loosing everything many who without loli would look at CP will then look at loli. And if you put loli on the same level as CP then there will be no reason not to look at the real thing.
>>45814642
To God it's not.
>>45813536
>Drawing or looking at an image of a fictional child is the same as having sex with a real human
No.
CP is a different matter, obviously.
>>45812724
>illegal file
No sane hacker would keep illegal files on their computers. On someone else's computers, maybe.
>>45814703
God hasn't given us a copy of the rules in a long fucking time m8
>>45814726
It's not about rules, asshole.
Communion with the divine is a journey, not a destination.
>>45813188
Yeah except you can literally just put a certain arrangement of bullets and kinetic energy into the air resulting in the state saying you deserve to be locked in a cage.
>this thread
Y'all muhfuckas need Fahrenheit 451
>>45814794
Yeah except you can literally just put a certain arrangement of penis into a vagina resulting in the state saying you deserve to be locked in a cage.
>>45814859
9th grade was great.
/lit/ please don't start.
>>45813281
>posting best girl in such a manner
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Yes
>>45812724
Yep.
Illegal files, no.
Illegally obtained files, sure.
Free info for you mister NSA, enjoy.
>>45812814
Both morality and legality are subjective.
They're both created by humans, they both can vary based on era and area, and neither has an existence independent from the human mind.
>>45812724
Damn, I'm bumping dat ass to the top.
yes
also nsa pls go
What a terrible thread
I want the film and music industry to die.
They promised to die if I pirated stuff.
[spoiler]theylied[/spoiler]
>>45813781
>>45812724
Does a picture of my dick when I was 16 count?
>>45815672
Yes actually, you filthy child pornographer.
No.
I have a bunch of old proprietary UNIX source code. Does that count?
>>45812724
Yes. It's all warez.
>>45813384
>implying "pedos" nowadays are real pedos. They're just angsty weeb teens.
>>45812798
wich country?, mine just books
>>45812724
Who doesn't?
>>45815405
That doesn't make legality subjective, retard. The ideas behind the laws are subjective. The laws themselves are not.
I keep my files in my cabinet and not on top of my computer
>>45816073
That's exactly what makes it subjective. Anything without an objective existence is subjective.
Things like morality and legality are products of and interpreted by the human mind; they don't exist on their own as objective phenomena do.
Even if you write something subjective down or get others to agree with it, it doesn't stop being subjective.
>>45816205
When I smack you in the face, it's an objective consequence for your stupidity. Subjective concept exist inside of your mind. Someone putting you in prison is an objective thing that is actually happening. Jesus Christ, you're a fucking moron.
>>45816356
Not him, but let's just say that laws are kind of subjective, but law enforcement is pretty fucking objective. And laws in a state is pretty fucking objective too.
>>45812814
What if there's images of cartoon characters that are of questionable age? Who is to decide how old they are? It's subjective.
I have a whole partition for man/dog stuff. That shit is hot.
>>45814580
youre a fucking atheist arent you ya fedora fucker
>>45814365
Ok fair. Having morality doesn't mean you're an idiot.
It just means you have a weakness
>>45814568
that's like saying humans lack something monkeys have.
what species is more emotionally impulsive, apes or humans?
apes... fuck face
>>45814568
oh yes, and when you get run over by hypergenetic cyborgs. i guess they're retarded too
prepare to evolve. all of you fuckers... prepare to fucking evolve
yes
but no one will never know
>>45812724
NSA please
>>45812724
Your picture should be illegal for people who aren't ants. Post a version thay isn't a thumbnail size
A few years ago I downloaded an entire cp site from the deep web, opva2 I think it was called.
Most of it was crap; I'm not a pedophile and I downloaded it just to have something illegal on my computer.
Eventually, it all went in the trash.
I do have some zoo porn, which is illegal in this shithole of a country where I live.
>>45815149
>Trespasser source code
muh nigga
>>45817253
>I'm not a pedophile and I downloaded it just to have something illegal on my computer.
>>45812724
Only your mums pics of her sucking my dick.
>>45818193
muh nigga indeed. I fucking loved looking through the AI section, that shit gave me the biggest boner, re-enabling all of the disabled Dino functions.
>>45812798
I hardly believe that, which country?
>my entire games are pirated
>all of my adobes are also pirated
>entire music files are pirated
>legal download movies? No way
>all animus are from nyaa.se
>Microsoft office also pirated
The only pure legal is my Windows OS
Oh yeah forgot, another illegal thing i have in my pc is OP's mom nude pics
>>45818406
Those are inherently public domain, because his mom is too.
I have a heavily encrypted external drive full of illegal material.
>>45812724
It seems the NSA have lost all funding and are resorting to primitive methods to try and catch us out.
>>45818606
>tfw if I somehow got charged with infringing copyright I'd be fucked literally and figuratively
Sent from my 'legal' windows 7 install
)))
>>45812724
Yes.
They are on a 250GB HDD i keep offline and use it when i need it.
>>45812724
my computer hahahaha
dude im a fucking illegal alien living in America i haven't paid 1 cent in taxes since i arrived and i make about 40k a year all under the table.
god bless the amish but back on topic everything on my pc is illegal from my copy of windows 7 to my internet connection.
ITT /g/ doesn't know what subjective means
>>45812897
Kill yourself
>>45818703
Couldn't it mean different things to different people?
Probably.
>>45812724
More than legal files. Literally paid for nothing but my hardware.
Just on my phone I have about 350 book, 500 or so songs a couple of tv shows and some movies.
SD card capacity is fucking amazing nowdays.
>>45813242
What.
No.
A state can be illegitimate, and a state's laws can break their basic code (For Americans that would be unconstitutional stuff) which is essentially illegal.
But a state cannot be, in and of itself, illegal. And the core laws of a governing body cannot be illegal, even when prohibition was ended it was merely an annulment of a law.
my motto has always been - "if i can find it on the internet, i have every right to save it, keep it and use it."
yes
>don't torrent
>pay for spotify for music
>pay for software
>but have some pirate pdfs of books
guilty
>>45818699
nice dubs alien-bro
how did you get into our fair country? canada or mexico?
If Illegal means "obtained" illegally then yes, of course fuck you for asking such a stupid question.
If Illegal means possession of the file could result in enforcement by the law then no I'm not a pedophile
>people having 1 TB of YIFY
Wow, /g/ surely is the worst kind of consumerist. Literally eating shit by watching garbage movies in garbage quality.
>>45818890
Pedo detected
>>45812724
>OP's image
I do now...
>>45819043
i love tits
kids don't have tits
not a pedo
round asses turn me on
kids don't have round asses
not a pedo
>>45814491
>>45814491
>dont click/dont click/cp
>>45816356
>Someone putting you in prison is an objective thing that is actually happening
"Someone putting you in prison" is not the definition of "legality".
You brought up a good example though. If a person smacks someone else in the face because they believe they are stupid, it's an objective fact that they smacked someone in the face. However, their belief that the person they smacked is a stupid person is still a subjective one.
People can do almost anything based on various subjective interpretations of the world, that still doesn't make those interpretations objective.
>>45812724
No. But I have acquired them illegally.
>NOT the nsa snooping around
of course not. illegal files is a crime.
you wouldn't download a car, would you....
>>45812798
which country nigger
N-no!! Why would you think that
Yes. Photoshop.
No, all my illegal files are on a portable hard drive behind the
>>45812724
I have all my drives encrypted because im worried about North Korean hackers.
>>45814400
>he wasn't on /g/ when we had CP threads.
>>45813330
Whoever wrote this is incredibly thick.
more like i don't have a single legal file in my computer lmao
>>45819517
>CP threads
>not loli threads
inb4 someone says they're the same.
