Previous thread: >>45450190
Has anybody ever bought a thinkpad here and only then discovered it had a locked bios?
Only reason I haven't bought one yet is fear of that happening.
is 400-500 bucks a good price for a W520 with 4gigs of ram and a 160gb ssd?
Is there any real reason to shell out money for a thinkpad if I have a perfectly good few laptops here already?
>>45474173
depends what prompted the question
>>45474033
Look for one where there's a picture of the computer's specifications in bios. You won't be able to view the specs if it's locked.
Ask the seller to take picture if there's none present.
>received T420 shipping notice this morning
The wait is painful. Still kinda worried I missed some crucial detail and got a shit deal
>>45474195
Had a thinkpad as a kid, T series. Slow as fuck now. Thinkpads seem very intriguing to me. I like having separate systems for things, hence my gaming/fun laptop and my school laptop. Been wanting to install gentoo and figured I wanted an ultimate nerd laptop for all things tech and science.
>>45474262
I got my 420 a few weeks back. I love it. Got it used (of course), ebay, no OS for 190.
Huge upgrade from my Dell my Grandpa bought me way back when for 400. The thinkpad has a beautiful i5 and my own ram-sticks totaling 8gb.
>>45474293
The one I'm waiting for is 2.5GHz i5, 2GB ram, 160GB HDD, 1600x900 display, no OS. $220
I have an intel 730 and a 4GB ram stick in the mail as well, should turn out fine
>>45474285
they do have some cool stuff. hackability is to the max, and parts are easy to find cheaply. if you have $200 lying around, it's not a bad option.
>>45474033
my 2nd thinkpad t400 i bought of a fat dude off of craigslist had a locked bios. He said he bought a storage lock and it didn't come with an adapter and the battery was running low. I bought it for $60. Fuck around trying to unlock it. Ended up I didn't have the skills to it. I swap out the keyboard (since it was newer) and swap out a dvd-rom/writer. Since I had a beat up old T400 laying around that need a new keyboard and only a DVD-ROM. After i swap those things out I ended up selling it on craigslist for also $60. :)
>>45474325
I tend to try to get the best system possible and go to the max, which is a very bad habit of mine. I was looking at w series, though from the posts I've seen, and since I'm only going to use it for programming and nothing more intensive than what /g/ would consider heavy. Would t series be a better choice?
>>45474351
X are the light ones.
>>45474392
My impulse is telling me I wouldn't be doing myself justice if I went with the x series. To be honest it seems the t420 might be an alright choice. Which do you have? I'm becoming nostalgic for the keyboard and red dot.
eBay used X220 for $375. Came with Ultrabay series 3 dock w/ optical drive. Specs are i5 2540m 2.6Ghz, 128gb SSD, 8gb ram, fp reader, assuming TN panel since they didn't specify.
Supposed to get here next Wednesday. this fucking wait................
>>45474456
I got an x201 and I'm very happy with it.
Of course, it's also my work laptop and portable dev machine that I end up hauling around everywhere so I do care about the form factor.
Bought this x200 beauty for $45.
>>45474612
Amazing deal. X201, X220 and X200 are great machines even for today's applications.
>>45474456
If you plan to work away from your table, I'd go with X220. With 9 cell battery and slice, you can go up to 18+ hours of computing.
>>45474612
Pretty damn impressive deal. Specs?
>>45474013
There are no good used Thinkpads T-series in my country. If I'm looking for a computer for at least 5 years should I buy new Thinkpad T-series? Not the current ones, but the next generations.
>>45474494
>>45474456
that is actually a different anon, but i also got an x201, tablet. the fact that it only works with the pen is actually nice. it isn't underpowered, either, even if it is a watered down i7.
>>45474654
18+ hours sounds sexy, though I usually use my laptops as a portable desktop. My battery life quickly becomes non existent because I keep them plugged in all the time. The only laptop I use as a laptop is my school one. Plus, something tells me I'll always feel disappointed looking at a small screen on the x series, hence myself leaning towards the t series (that w series with the extended display seems sexy but oh so expensive).
>>45474700
small screens don't bother me, but 1280x800 isn't bad.
>phone dying
>saw two X41 tablets that needed work
>afraid to bid
>they were under $15 with free shipping
looked like a great deal.
>>45474679
Just get a rMBP, or get a ThinkPad and join our buyer's remorse ThinkPad club.
>>45474725
1280*800 on 12" looks perfectly fine, and the LED backlight works great. 1366*768 is a bit odd looking though. Can't figure out why.
>>45474749
1366*768 triggers my OCD, I think it's because the numbers don't end on a 0
>>45474732
>Just get a rMBP
Damn, saucey is going mad. Then again, faggots are attracted to macs anyway.
>>45474659
2.4Ghz (p8600), 2GB, no hdd. I put in a nice 256gb mx100 crucial SSD for $79.
>>45474732
>2x USB 3.0
Nice try.
>>45474777
I don't mind the 768 since I'm used to it from 1024*768, but the '66 is a bit odd.
>>45474679
bump, anyone?
>>45474732
>that chassis
not a thinkpad
>>45474901
>muh extra 4000 pixels
How hard is it to put an MSATA in an X220? I've seen the tutorials, but I'm still apprehensive about actually doing it. Worth or no?
is it possible to completely replace all the external parts of a thinkpad? like the armrest where the trackpad lies
>>45475154
>>45474852
What is a ThinkPad T430
http://mobilityupdate.com/notebooks/lenovo-t430-review/
I'll take GPU failure rates for $400 Alex.
>>45475187
Pretty much everything, even the chassis.
Careful, there are some none OEM parts though, they just snap in funky, might be a PITA
>>45475167
Take off keyboard, take off palmrest, stick SSD into slot, put in 1 screw, re-assemble.
Shouldn't take more than 10 minutes, and as long as you're careful with taking off the keyboard and palmrest, you won't face much trouble.
Protip: When taking off the keyboard, push against the plastic bar with the power button and the volume controls to slide it up. If you push against the keys you risk inadvertently taking them off.
>>45475278
Thanks, bro.
>>45475201
>http://mobilityupdate.com/notebooks/lenovo-t430-review/
>that keyboard
>>45475278
I stick two flathead screwdrivers under the bottom edge of the keyboard and just push it forward. At least the first few times anyways, now it slides forward easy enough to just push on the keys.
But yeah, putting an mSATA SSD in an X220 is very simple and easy, just make sure you have a spare M2x3 screw to screw down the SSD.
Alternatively you could use one of the 5 screws out of the palm rest and replace that later, same size. Or take one from where the upper bezel is screwed down to the motherboard, there's like four and it's pretty unnecessary, but those are the same size too. Or salvage an old dead laptop, which is what I did.
>>45475201
>T430
Exactly.
>>45475201
>What is a ThinkPad T430
Not a true thinkpad, that's what
>>45475975
>>45475483
I beg to differ.
How are the x200t drivers for crunchbang? I want to be able to use the pen and the buttons on the display.
i need an 11' think, what are my options?
>>45476018
>i need an 11'
I've seen some big thinkpads, but I think you're out of luck there pal
>>45476018
a 12" think, all the 11" ones are garbage, the extra 1" more portability is not worth all the problems they have
>>45476018
Sub 12" ThinkPads aren't known for their thinnes.
X120e is one of the last small 11" ThinkPads, I think there might be an Edge 11" model but I don't know its durability.
X13x and X14x models have a rubber bumper around the lid and are thicker than the X120e. They are a bit tough despite being made of plastic but I think they are the same size or thicker than a X220/X230.
Granted I thought the X130e was a decent model for the price, if I wanted a sub $150 lappy that had at least 5 hours of use, I'd get one of those again, was nice but I wouldn't say great comparing to my other models I own.
>>45475996
A+ for effort.
>>45476142
What do you mean for effort?
>>45475418
>just make sure you have a spare M2x3 screw to screw down the SSD
When I installed my mSATA there was already a screw in the hole lol
X201 for £120, should I buy it /g/?
>i5
>4GB
>Good condition
Good deal or not?
>>45476114
12 Inch it is I reckon
Can I really get 20 hours out of X240 with the larger battery? I have been thinking about either that or MacBook Air.
>>45476299
Pretty good.
>>45476299
>180 burger bucks
It's okay considering it's Bongland
>>45476337
Going by the buyers guide $170 seems to be the auction price for the X201 in burgerland.
Not that much of a difference then.
>>45476315
neither of those are thinkpads so this doesn't belong in the thinkpad thread
but to answer your question, no, there is no laptop in existance that even gets close to 20 hours
>>45476315
>X240
More or less.
>>45476353
Wat? I am quite sure it's called ThinkPad X240
Or are you some euforic ponycartoon loving atheist assburger who is pawn star dude's "expert on chinkpads" friend?
>>45476352
ktgee's pretty outdated.
You can get X201 for as low as $100 here Burgeristan.
>>45476353
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x240
>Continuous Web surfing over wireless until battery drained.
>20:28
Also, X220 and X230 with extended battery + slice battery can easily net 20 hours.
>>45476373
/tpg/ doesn't like 2012 and later models.
>>45476373
these threads are for discussing old thinkpads, the people in them only like old thinkpads, because new thinkpads are shit
you can spout memes like "euforic ponycartoon loving atheist assburger who is pawn star dude's 'expert on chinkpads' friend", but it wont change the fact that you are posting in the wrong thread, if you don't like it go somewhere else
>>45476381
Too fucking bad, thankfully /tgp/ can go fuck itself with a dragon dildo and come back as a sensible person who doesn't have such shitty opinions.
I was able to try the Thinkpad Yoga the other day. Looks pretty nice and after typing on it for a few minutes, it feels great too. The only downside I notice right away is the trackpoint which is not above the keyboard (super annoyed by that) second is the trackpad. When I click it down, it feels like cheap plastic and the downward motion doesn't feel vertically down but rather wiggles. And the fn + alt + f4 to close windows? fuck that
>>45476419
newfags gonna new
>>45476432
I thought a thinkpad thread that I can express my disappointment to people who understand instead of talking to my friends who have no clue of why those things matter
>>45476455
Go make a consumer laptop thread then
>>45476374
Wow, that's low.
>>45476502
You should put that shit in the title if you wish yo keep these threads about museum machines asstard.
>>45476502
guess I did not state clear enough.
I love previous thinkpads, own a t420s and a x220t. If I'm correct the new ones do not have a roll cage in them?
>>45476505
It goes up quickly if it's the high specced ones though
>>45476527
Nah, we like to see newfags buy shitty ass chinkpads and laugh at them.
>>45476528
The construction is all over the place these days and you'll have to look finely
E.g. if you flicked back, the T430u didn't have a rollcage
But an X1 model did survive the bowling ball test
>>45474013
Ok who was that nigger that sniped an X240 with an SSD, FHD IPS, 8 GB RAM and extended battery off me for $600?
>>45476605
>euforic
Are you less than 18?
How the fuck do you guys cope with this abomination of ergonomics? I've had to tolerate it with my S205 netbook and I can't stand it. I'll never buy another laptop with this fucking abomination of a keyboard layout again
>>45476659
It's called tinkering with the BIOS
>(There is an option in the BIOS for swapping Fn and CTRL)
>>45476659
you can swap it in bios
>>45476652
Using reaction gifs and calling people newfag? You must be 18 AND overweight.
>>45476676
and then swap the key caps
done
but I've had no issues with this configuration, personally. I prefer the FN to be on the outside
>>45476018
I bought a Yoga 11e Windows in November. I love it.
>>45476706
but he was asking about thinkpads
>>45476737
>>45476740
>>45476746
>>45476760
>>45476761
>>45476764
guys... I just want to discuss thinkpads
Real ThinkPad comin' through.
>>45476808
Face it, there is no difference between a 2014 ThinkPad and 2011 ThinkPad. Except the fact that the 2014 model is better.
>>45476821
Shill's gonna shill
thank mr hotpocket
>>45476784
Is that an 08/08 model?
Theres an X120e on ebay for 85bux, will cost 140 to my door since I'm international from the seller.
Should I do it?
>>45476859
Nope, but it has an Intel board swapped so it's not a concern. Still has a WUXGA panel.
>>45476867
no
you can probably find an x200 for around that price which is far better
Asking again
Are the new X240s worth it? I have about 1800€ for a new laptop that i intend to replace my X200. I will use it for a good couple of years, so i expect it to last. I have heard they are not as good, so i am open to alternatives.
>>45476960
no, they're not worth it
just looking at a side-by-side shot of them is usually enough to convince people why
>>45476986
How about the X230? X220 seems nice too, but i am worried about battery life.
>>45476960
>1800€
>6 hours battery life
I'd recommend you a Mac before a new Lenovo ChinkPad.
>>45477008
X220 has 20+ hour battery life with slice
>>45477008
x230 is ok if you can stand the chicklet keyboard and 16:9, x220 is ok if you can stand the 16:9
what kind of battery life are you looking for? you should know by the way that they will never get the advertised battery life, if you get an x220 / x230 you can always extend the battery life with a slice battery (not available for the x240)
Are Thinkpads really tough? Lenovo seems notorious for flimsy materials. Im thinking of buying one for school and entertainment, so I'll be traveling with this often.
>>45477020
Might as well grab the X220, X240 doesnt seem to be as good and i will miss the keyboard, plus the performance seems to be about the same
>>45477032
>Lenovo seems notorious for flimsy materials
Only on an IdeaPad <TM>
>>45477032
the new lenovo laptops are not at all tough
if you get an actual old thinkpad (what these threads are all about), they are notoriously tough, they have metal alloy bodies, spill channels, etc
>>45477025
Atleast 8 hours, 4 or so under load. The slice seems really useful tho
>>45477045
What models are the thinkpads considered old up to? I was thinking of getting a T420 or a E545.
>>45477086
*20 (2012 models) generally are considered the last good ones, though some people dislike the 16:9 screens on *20 models so they go for *10 or *01
>>45476374
>X61s for 50 eurobucks
>3 gigs of ram, L7500
>shitty 80gb hdd
>A chip in the corner
>A dead battery
>Ultrabase 6
Should I?
>>45477099
Are the good thinkpads coming back?
The 2560x1600 screens on the new W series is encouraging.
>>45474013
T60,T61,T400,T420,T430,T440p signing in.
my T510 just came and so did I. Slammed my os ssd from previous sl500 into it and now I'm in heaven.
One thing bothers me - having page up/down surrounding my up cursor was godly for my typing speed, and now they have a dedicated block in the upper right.
Any bios-mods to remap this, or should I adapt?
>>45477664
>should I adapt?
If you plan on getting another thinkpad in the future, yes, you should.
>>45477687
Nevermind, i meant the opposite, The newer thinkpads will always have those buttons at the cursor keys.
You can remap them with the sharpkeys(?) windows utility or you can google how to do it on linux.
>>45477707
ah sharpkeys! Totally forgot about it. Thanks anon.
DOS is fun
DOS is life
X120e T500 R500 760XL 380XD 240X 770Z 701cs 600X owner here, feelin' awesome.
Friend of mine got a $500 deal on a LOT of nice things, included a stack of thinkpad T42s and a single R51 that all had bootup password locks. I guess those are a write-off... but there's plenty of other nice things in the pile of shtuff.
>>45476401
>poorfags jelly of my x230t
ayy lmao
>>45476659
>not liking having your fn key on the corner
i have stubby fingers though
>>45477025
i actually like the chiclet keyboard, and having it be backlit is fucking amazing
A small question, what would be a good price for a x220 with an i5 and 160gb hdd,4gbs of ram and/or an x200 with the same hdd and 2gbs of ram?
>>45478063
>x220 with an i5 and 160gb hdd
$200-250 depends on the day.
>x200 with the same hdd and 2gbs of ram
$50-100
>>45478384
Anything else you'd recommend in that those price ranges? Doesn't necessarily have to be a thinkpad.
Also consider the fact that it's going to cost me quite a lot just for shipping since i live in the middle of a shithole of a country.
yay or nay
x201 or x220
>>45478428
More or less the upper end of prices for an X220.
But you might aswell go for it if you're willing to pay the express delivery.
>>45478456
... how do I know it isn't bios locked?
What's a good 1900x1080 thinkpad? I was thinking the w520
>>45478415
Dell E6220/ HP 2560p = X220
Dell E4200/ HP 2530p = X200
I'm not sure if they're counterparts but specs and price are closely comparable. Of course, ThinkPads are superior.
Make sure you get the highest res.
>>45478462
I don't think any reputable seller would declare it seller refurbished if it's BIOS locked.
>>45478539
>HP 2560p
Well i just found a 2560p being sold in my shithole country 330$, brand new with a 500gb hdd.
Seems too good to be true.
>>45478465
Still too expensive and T420/T520/X220 is more bang for the buck. But if you really the 1900x1080 res you should pull the trigger. T520 also has that res.
>>45478570
I doubt it's retail store brand new since it's a 3 years old model. $330 is still a premium price at least here in clapistan.
t41 reporting in.
>>45478603
Here in kikesrael its dirt cheap. even those shitty intel celeron chromebooks cost more then it.
I wonder if i can contact the seller and pay with cash since its like a 45minutes of a car ride away, probably could get him to sell it for a lower price.
>>45478462
Stupid question, but what does everyone mean by "BIOS Locked"?
>>45478637
If you're from IL check out ynetshops, they have x201 / x220 refurbs.
Worth running the numbers to see if it's cheaper than ebay.
Why does 4chan love ThinkPad? I'm not educated on them.
>>45478637
I'd be jelly if you can find and buy one of those famous W700ds
>>45478667
BIO is password protected. That means you can't even boot.
>>45478707
it's a meme
My x61t, got it off of Ebay 2 years ago for like 100€ shipped I think.
I really like the portability and the swivel screen is pretty cool as well.
Specs are a bit low though, might have to make the switch to ubuntu for my webbrowsing and watching stuff. Firefox starts hanging often with multiple tabs.
I hardly play games on this one anymore anyway, except for some HoMM3.
any x201 bros or similar specs successfully run Hearthstone?
>>45478712
Surprisingly my dad's friend has worked for IBM IL for the past 13 years and has a W701ds.
Now before i started browsing /g/ i had no idea how much that thing was worth so i'm still in a bit of shock when he even allowed me to use it for a small while. too bad he's quite the jerk but he did give me an old thinkpad back in 06 so he's fine by my book.
Also >>45478696 ynetshops have more or less the same prices as ebay+delivey, but they do grant warranty so it's a rather nice option.
Still got about a month till the paycheck+bonuses kick in so i gotta think whether can i afford the x220 or simillar dell or go for the x200.
>>45478814
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-W701ds-/171540046784?pt=Laptops_Nov05&hash=item27f09563c0
Wow.
Some anon here bought a W700ds for ~$1000
>>45478885
I think i've seen the post about the w700ds anon a while back, but yeah the 701 is crazy expensive.
>>45478910
why does it cost so much?
>>45478920
It's rare and cost fuckton brand new.
>>45478920
Well its like when you weight gold and see how much is it per ounce, with the w701ds being the heaviest of them all.
It comes with a secondary display,pen digitizer,a really strong chipset ,incredible build quality, and other premium features-and all that fetches a ridiculously high price tag.
Then again they are rare as fuck since chinknovo knew not a lot of people would even buy such a thing.
>>45478707
RMS used it. /g/ idolizes him so they starting using. Although he stopped using them after being denied by IBM of its secrets to unlock its BIOS or something.
>>45478996
>>45478940
I see thanks.
I am using my non-business Lenovo SL300 from 2007, that I got for relatively cheap due to a probable pricing error. Price jumped from 700 to 1000e back then.
Havent even installed any updates in years for Vista Business. Everything works, except for the rare hang-ups that solve themselves. Just too slow for 1080p youtube, I think the limit on warez is 13 gb rips when the hdd gives out or something.
>>45479123
I remember playing 1080p movies on my T60p. Proves that consumer crap is crap.
>>45479156
This has a 1.8 ghz core 2 duo. No chance of ever getting the yankee configuration back then where everything was top notch. MPHC and CoreAVC does some nice things.
>>45478712
You can boot and view the settings if a supervisor password is set, just that you can't change anything.
The one which won't let you boot is the power on password - that one is a lot easier to remove. Pull the internal and external batteries then cycle the machine without the batteries.
The supervisor password however is rather difficult and requires trickery involving opening up the machine and dumping the bios. Then all sorts of fucking around with newer models.
TP with great battery and linux support? Not planning to run Windows.
>>45479227
T420 + 9 cell
>>45474612
Goddamn that's a better deal than mine, and mine's also beat to shit with a couple of non functional keys, couple of cracks and a broken HDD cover held with tape
>>45478462
if it is you tell ebay/paypal and they get raped hardcore
>>45478920
it is more or less the pinnacle of mobile technology
>>45474013
x201 vs x220
i can't really decide. the main perks i'm looking for are noise, typing feel and batterylife
>>45480002
>fan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiixRw1aeI8
X201
>keyboard
Identical(?)
>battery life
X220 wins for 18+ hours with slice
>>45480050
do you know how long the x201 lasts, i found very varying information
>>45480063
8 hours with SSD and power savings. Mind you my battery is old.
>>45480093
woah that's plenty for me, should easy do the trick. thanks m8
>>45480118
IMO, X201(t) has the best spec-price ratio in X-series. Enjoy your ThinkPad®.
>>45480050
For the X220 whine, is that PWM control?
Trying to install debian to a T23 as a server
Being a new user, I can't get past the installation stage where data is loaded from the disk since I'm using a liveusb.
Any helpful advice or warnings regarding my plan?
I want to get a X220 tablet as my laptop, probably just going to throw arch on it, maybe try gnome with the touch screen.
But i was wondering if you guys had any opinions on how the graphics perform (specifically with videos in a browser), or if there are any issues with the X220 like overheating or whatever. The HD 3000 Integrated is better than what i am currently using (GM965), but i would just like to be sure)
Overall i am torn between the x220 and a t420, any suggestions?
>>45480444
I've heard lots of issues with X220t like digitizer, CPU throttling and ghosting issues so I chose T420 over it. While T420 isn't perfect (loose palm rest, crumply volume buttons, etc.) overall it's a good machine.
>in the market for a T430
>90% of them are 1368x768
>14" screen
Even my X200t is 12" and has a 1280x800.
>>45479123
Really?
I'm surprised, I've been looking for a backup/sacrifice 13" for my X300.
SL400 and I think SL500 were prone to snaping hinges worse than the T500, so thats good yours is built well.
>>45479156
Probably can play it, Vista probably is holding it back, I can play 1080p on my 1.6GHz X61T but I upgraded that fucker.
>>45478637
Probably, see if its being sold locally, it might be especially if its a buy it now.
Shipping, ebay and paypal fees is a good reason to knock down the price if paying cash.
>>45478667
You have the chances of booting an HDD but configuring it via bios you cant
just hope the seller didnt pull the battery, or inputted too many wrong passwords, its fucked if so.
>owning a thinkpad without Intel i7 CPU, enterprise SSD and at least 16GB of RAM
lol poorfags
>>45477936
Damn, those are some nice vintage ThinkPads you got there.
Im pretty jelly of the 240X.
>>45480683
>muh 0.2 GHz
>>45480651
Again it's literally in the city near me (kikeland is a small as hell country, a car trip across it takes barely 6 hours)
>>45480531
Yeah, and i am reading about the whole "soft touchpad" button issues which is just a fucking bag of shit when it comes to linux. (ie. you cant rest your finger on the a click button while another finger is using the touchpad)
so i guess t420 it is
>>45480762
+1MB of cacheand higher turbo freq
>>45480768
Wouldn't hurt if you got something else to see there.
Go for it! :)
>>45480444
I went from a T420 to an X220t.
No there is no issues with it overheating, unless you cover up the vents.
The integrated graphics are fine, my T420 and X220t both had the same specs, i5-2520m and HD 3000 graphics.
Only thing I miss from the T420 is that it was a little more sturdy (two hinges instead of one, overall thicker, and a latch). It was also easier to grab because you could grab it from every side, X220's and pretty much all X-series, the keyboard spans from one side to the other, so you can only grab them from the front and the back. The palm rest on non-tablets slopes down at the edge, on tablets it's a hard edge, that was kind of sucky to get used to.
Also my T420 had longer battery life since it had a 9-cell battery and X220t's can only go up to 6-cell, but for my personal uses it gives me enough battery life.
I can get up to 8hrs battery life with my T430 (6cell/standard battery + ssd).
if I fit a HDD in the ultrabay, and only really use it for storage eg. music, any idea for how much that would impact battery life?
>>45480936
Not much.
Kind of depends what HDD you get too, some are better than others.
>>45480960
its a 320gb WD black I've had sitting around unused for years.
>>45480982
>tfw spare laptop HDDs
can never go wrong
>>45480889
my t420s a noticably fast than my x220t both have 2520m, 8gb and 4gb ram, 420s has a nvidia gpu. not sure if that makes a difference or just the x220t's harddrive is slow
![hqdefault[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cu4AV8q.jpg "hqdefault[2].jpg")
>>45476258
That keyboard isn't T430 native. It's modded in from an older model: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Install_Classic_Keyboard_on_xx30_Series_ThinkPads
Pic related is original keyboard.
>>45481278
I think he knows that, the T430 with T420 keyboard might be the best of the last 'true' ThinkPads.
>>45477020
>slice
The point of X series is to have that amazing battery life combined with ease of mobility. Slice just increases weight, might as well grab a T series.
>>45477020
>6 hours
Get the biggest battery you can and you'll get those +10 hours of typical office work and 25 hours of idle without using a slice. Suggesting a Mac while not understanding why it has those long hours is misinformation.
>>45476960
Buying new is stupid. Buy used from ebay or auctions for new. Many used thinkpads still have plenty of warranty left and you can get them starting from around 400 euros.
>>45477867
>dat keyboard
daaaaaamn
What's the model?
After missing out on a $50 Dell e4200, then $80 complete x200, I finally got a complete x220 for $150. Any recommendations on a cheap ssd that'll fit on here? Not really looking for much, just 32-64gb. Also, since it's most likely a TN panel screen, is it upgradeable like the older Thinkpads?
>>45481417
He's talking about the X240s and me saying I'd rather recommend Macs is me displaying my disdain for ChinkPads.
>>45481340
>I think he knows that
Well he didn't sound like that.
>>45481461
Samsung, Crucial or Intel. I prefer Crucial. Try refurbs from the official site if there's any.
>Also, since it's most likely a TN panel screen, is it upgradeable like the older Thinkpads?
You can swap it with an IPS screen though 1366X768 is the max res you can have as far as I know.
>>45481568
Are all ssd's the slim 7mm? I'm going off the ktgee Thinkpad guide.
>>45481594
>Are all ssd's the slim 7mm?
No.
The x41 table has pen pressure, right? I like to animate and would love to have a machine like it. If I do manage to get my hands on one ill probably use it solely for animating (Flash CS3 and probably early versions of TV Paint) and just render everything on my tower.
>>45481672
Yeah it has it, keep in mind you'll have to look for 1.8" PATA HDD/SSDs for that model or a CF Card to PATA converter.
>>45474483
>>45474483
got here early!! AND it came with an IPS display :D this thing is fucking awesome. Just got win 7 installed, loving the x220 so far
>>45481701
Cool. Thanks for the advice. I probably wouldnt have known that.
>>45481705
Enjoy cumming on your palm rest! ;^)
>>45481726
No problemo. RAM is limited to 2GB under the OS even if it shows 2.5 in the bios as well.
>>45481705
Nice!
>>45480683
>owning a thinkpad with that casualshit resolution
ultra pleb
>>45480889
Woah, an X220 can use that dock or is there a special one?
>>45474456
I've had an x200 for a few years now and have used it way more than I thought I would. I originally got for doing business on the road; I needed something light and with good battery life.
At first I used it only for work, but over time I found myself choosing it all the time. The smaller form factor is really just superior. Being able to unplug the machine and move around with it easily simply results in being able to use it more often and in more diverse situations. The smaller size and better battery life results in more desirable usage patterns. I think for a laptop the size/battery of the x-series makes the most sense.
Do any 14'' or below Thinkpads have FHD screens prior to T440 series?
>>45482194
Nope
>>45482216
Well that stinks. I guess best option would then be an 1600x900 IPS mod from X1 for T420?
>>45482234
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Replacing_T430_screen_with_a_better_one
Good luck.
>>45481752
Do you know if any pen would do? Say the original pen were missing, but I have a Wacom pen to use. Would that work normally? Thanks for answering all these questions.
>>45481539
Look at the instance of Word in the photo.
His tripfag name is there.
In fact, the rest of the article looks like it was written by him.
Who the fuck uses 'master race'?
>>45482352
ok, Should've pointed me to History page.
>>45482352
I saw that as well. Why would he put memes on ThinkWiki?
>>45482194
There was an X230 mod with a Dell screen.
Very complex hack though... cant find the source or imgur of it.
Supposidly you can mod a W/T520 or 530 to fit an IPS screen from Dell as well, dunno the pinout stuff for that.
>>45482339
I had a Wacom tablet during the time I bought my X61T but I remembered the pen not working for it when I was waiting for an original stylus.
http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/X41-Tablet-Pen-Missing-Others-Compatible-amp-Fit-Chasiss/td-p/503061
X60/61 digitizers will work on the X41T but they wont fit in the palmrest, they are a bit longer, I wouldn't recommend it.
I've heard some people using the Toshiba Lifebook stylus that work on the X2xx models, never tried it on my own.
>>45482352
Still it is a cool mod despite its drawbacks
>>45482393
le ebin m8 thats why
>not knowing the last True ThinkPad was the T43p
>not knowing the last Real ThinkPad was the T30
>not knowing the last god-tier ThinkPad was the 600X
>>45481919
not him, but he once said he had to remove some shit from the dock to get it working.
>>45482471
Thanks!
>buy X1 Carbon 2013 top spec
> father gets a X1 Carbon 2014 top spec from work
>mfw
Found W520 for 370euros. FHD, Quad Core, 8gigs of RAM, Quadro 2000M
However the thing is too big for me so probably no buy.
>>45482538
Should've read the reviews. Carbon is quite a garbage but Gen 1 is absolute garbage.
>>45482538
>X1 Carbon
>Ever
You fucked up
>>45481594
I think that all 'new' SSD models are 7mm height. Quite a few older ones are not though.
If you're not sure about a particular one, it shouldn't be hard to find out anyways.
>>45482664
>>45482700
Nah man, they are good man!
>>45482499
Yep, the normal X220 fits on the Mini Dock, the Tablet does not though.
First few seconds of this video explains how to make it work.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feev_4DzfVI
Also, it's a little wobbly, but I don't touch the laptop much while it's on the dock...
I saw someone else in these threads that did the same thing and put some folded paper under the back or something. I assume to combat the wobbliness.
>>45474013
/g/ I need your help. I want to buy a thinkpad for testing software and using it in uni. (taking notes, labs stuff...)
What is recommended with the following specs?
>has at least 2gb ddr2 ram
>hdd doesn't matter
>i'm about to use gentoo on it, so i need something that handles compilation well
>12-13"
>>45482978
forgot to mention that I wanted an X200, but it's nearly non-existent in my country, and nothing ships here :( (amazon shipping is more than $100) so basically looking for alternatives
>>45482994
Did you look in ebay?
>>45482994
You can expect international shipping to be 200$. USPS is the only one who does it as cheap as 100$ unless you do shipping via actual ship.
>>45482994
I think it's so strange that shitty countries don't have any used laptop market. It seems like it would be worthwhile to haul a bunch over.
>>45480683
>polandia
>śmieje się z poorfagów
hue
how are the NVS 4200M graphics on the t420? does it have any parasitic battery drain? would it be worth it if i play random linux games here and there? I would like it to be able to at least run minecraft on high. ( i dont play minecraft, but it's a good benchmark for mid-end gaming )
>>45483068
ofc, but lowest shipping was $80. That's the price of a ram upgrade, so I want to try to find something here first. If there are no good alternatives, then I might just pay for shipping and live happily with an X200
>>45476401
Then the name of this thread should change to antiques general. Not everyone is a poorfag.
>>45475996
I had to stop lurking and comment on the straight up faggotry in this image. i cringed so fucking hard
>>45483116
>how are the NVS 4200M graphics on the t420?
Hardly better than the integrated graphics. The only thing they're good for over the integrated graphics is powering 3 monitors instead of 2.
>does it have any parasitic battery drain?
Not if it has Nvidia Optimus. I think it used to have issues in Linux but I'm pretty sure it has been fixed now.
>would it be worth it if i play random linux games here and there?
Not really, no.
You can play Minecraft on high, but it would be low fps.
>>45474732
BE THIS A MUTINY?!
should I sell my t410 and get an x201 or sell my t410 and this other computer and get an x201t and dual boot my loonixes with android?
>>45483735
You should first acquire second laptop, then worry about selling it.
>>45483735
>with android?
explain?
>tfw slice battery came today
>tfw bidding on docks
>tfw x41t in mail
>tfw closer and closer to a unified power efficient home computing solution
>>45480936
how do you get 8 hours?
my x230 gets 5 tops with everything the lowest it goes. i am on windows 7 and I've got an ssd
>>45484113
6-cell or 9-cell battery?
>>45476784
>real nvidia housefire coming through
fixed
>>45484181
6 cell- it's a tablet
>>45481672 here. I have a chance to buy
an X41 for $120 with Win7. Does that seems like a good deal? Seems like it compared to other sellers.
>>45484194
Then 5 hours is about right.
Do you have Lenovo's Power Manager installed? You can undervolt the CPU and net a bit more battery life, probably would help the most. That's if you don't need the processing power anyways, also it'll run cooler so the fan will stay off/lower.
>>45481705
So the battery is the original from 2011 and Power Manager says it only has 31 cycles? How can that possibly be right?
>>45484260
>>45484312
im on max battery life and no wifi and lowest brightness
>>45484348
Huh. Well shit.
>>45484437
granted, a battery is like 20, but 40 dollars isnt too shabby
>>45483103
Given how some of us Americans just throw away a computer when the screen breaks or when XP ran out of updates, I wouldn't doubt the same applies with other countries.
>>45482880
I see... hmmm
>>45482700
Different strokes for fucked up folks.
I've heard the X1C is actually gud, the build quality and hinges are nice for a thin laptop.
