RAID vs AHCI
CHOOSE.
>>45405086
JBOD AHCI, because fuck everything else at home.
>>45405171
>JBOD
>lose 1 disk, lose everything
Who the fuck thought that this was good design?
>>45405086
As in you can't use your RAID controller unless AHCI is disabled?
AHCI wins preference hands down. You can do raid in software with minimal overhead.
>>45405235
Backups are always offline. Back to basic CS son, RAIDs are never a form of backup.
>>45405237
I would never use raid on windows
>>45405261
but why
>>45405287
because I care about my data
>>45405086
12 sata ports? wth
>>45405332
I do too, isn't a logical unit bettwer than three independent volumes?
They serve different purposes
>>45405355
Nor are they mutually exclusive, this thread is a farce.
>>45405349
Not when it's handled by windblows
>>45405377
Excellent dubbage my enemy.
>>45405393
Should you imply that Linux would serve RAID more efficiently than Windows?
>>45405258
But why JBOD? Why not just no setup? Have separate disks and if one drive fails, the contents of the drive are gone.
Is JBOD an ambiguous term (where multiple drives all map to the same place AND/OR are literally just a bunch of disks in a case)?
> not using a dedicated PCI-e RAID controller
It's like you enjoy wasting resources and risking data corruption.
>>45405349
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/10/storage-spaces-explained-a-great-feature-when-it-works/3/
>>45405430
Yes.
raid nigga
even tho no raid tho
>>45405086
Both.
>>45405086
AHCI and RAIDZ1.
Well I just lost all my space in a recent AHCI to RAID movement, and now there's a paging file on my TB HDD...
Safe to say, RAID is better.
>>45405086
Never
Ever
Trust
Hardware
RAID
>>45407701
Hardware RAID is fine if you have a decent dedicated controller. Keep in mind that this is enterprise hardware though, so anything decent is fucking expensive.
>>45407701
I'm going to eat your dick.
>>45407847
That's horse manure.
Tons of consumerist boards come with great RAID controllers.
>>45405452
My modbo is set for JBOD mode as im using software raid. Glorious ZFS
>>45405470
you forgot ZFS + 32gb of ECC ram! :D
>>45407863
Is it a real hardware RAID though? Most motherboard RAID controllers still use your CPU just like a software RAID would and trick Windows into treating it like a hardware RAID. I found that out when the Ubuntu installer kept showing me the individual drives in my RAID array.
RAID so I can use Intel® Rapid Storage Technology™.
![storage[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kq6aL0g.jpg "storage[1].jpg")
>>45405348
Why not?
>>45407960
SHILL HARDER
>>45407959
There are tons of RAID controllers on consumerist boards that work exceptionally well, I don't know how you could draw any conclusion about all of them being software predilected.
>>45405237
Not to mention the fake RAID that is usually included on motherboards is absolute shit anyway. It doesn't have a dedicated controller and relies on your processor just like software RAID, except has all the downsides of both software and hardware RAID. So software RAID wins hands down. And if you actually need one, you can get a dedicated RAID controller, which still has the downside of usually needing the exact same card if it fails, but at least you're not tethered to a specific motherboard.
>>45408019
>I don't know how you could draw any conclusion about all of them being software predilected.
There might be some, but they're only on very high end boards. The rest is fake RAID[1]. Real RAID controllers cost as much as most motherboards anyway, which is why they don't include them.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID#Firmware.2Fdriver-based
>>45408071
How does that dismount what I was saying?
That corroborates my point if anything
>>45408086
You made it sound like they are common. Actual RAID on motherboards is incredibly rare and you should not assume that your motherboard has a dedicated RAID controller unless you specifically know as much. It's unlikely that anyone in this thread has dedicated RAID on their motherboard.
>>45405086
IDE
>>45408188
My mobo interprets my SSD as IDE SCSI.
So don't even get me upset, I might just blow up all over you.
How do I tell if my motherboard's raid is fake. I take it if it uses Intel Rapid Storage it's fake right?
>>45408222
I know what else you will blow out all over me
>>45408243
hnnngg
>>45408230
Boot up an Ubuntu disc and see how many hard disks it finds. If it sees your RAID, it's a hardware RAID. If it sees the individual disks, it's fakeRAID.
What is the cheapest small form factor desktop I can get?
I mean, I just need a tiny and cheap thing to hook up to my computer to watch movies.
>>45408230
If you're using RAID controlled by your motherboard, it's fake. There is *probably* some example contrary to this, but it wouldn't be on consumer hardware. Not that it matters a ton because you almost assuredly don't need whatever CPU cycles it's stealing from you. The major downside is that if your motherboard dies you will probably have to get a replacement that is the exact same model or lose all of your data. That's why software RAID is nicer than fake RAID. It still needs CPU cycles, but if your motherboard fails it doesn't matter. Put a new motherboard in and it just works again.
>>45405452
RAID only protects against hard drive failure and isnt a form of backup. JBOD works well because you only lose the data from that disk so you just pop in another one and restore the data instead of worry about rebuilding your RAID configuration.
>>45405258
>RAIDs are never a form of backup.
>>45409814
They aren't. I have to tell people this at work every day. I'm not even the guy who first said it in this thread. RAID is for redundancy. You're a retard if you're using it for anything other than that and RAID0.
