Going to be picking up a monitor soon, a bit unsure what I should be looking for. Obviously 1920x1080 and I would like a 120hz refresh rate, but I don't know what else I should be looking for. Price range is 200-300.
>>45273990
whats in the pic is ips, wont be 120hz. If you want >60hz youll need a tn panel which will mean shitty colors
>>45273990
>200-300
Gee, that's helpful. Maybe specify a currency.
>obviously 1920x1080
Why? They make 2440x1444/1600
>>45274000
Hmm, ok. So is 120hz really worth it? Or should I go for the best picture available?
>>45274007
My apologies, dollars.
>>45274009
I suppose you can add "at least" before that 1920x1080.
>>45273990
>Obviously 1920x1080
How the fuck is that obvious
>>45274015
>My apologies, dollars.
oh that narrows it down
>>45274033
Why the fuck do you care you faggot
>>45274042
I think you know which dollars I meant bub.
United States Dollars, is that sufficient?
>>45274007
>>45274042
oh the autism
>>45274052
>i think you can read my mind bub
kill yourself
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009642
>>45274058
I'll get right on that. I just need to buy a monitor first.
120hz belongs in >>>/v/
/g/ actually cares about their monitors not looking like shit
>>45274077
Translation: /g/ buys only IPS so their Chinese cartoons have 100% accurate color
>>45274077
Well I just said that because my computer can get fps like that and I'm curious as to how it looks.
If you can recommend one with great picture I'd be happy to check it out.
Try a BenQ XL2411Z if you want high refresh
>>45274087
Or so they can flash their fancy wallpapers in desktop and battlestation threads
>>45274095
/g/ is retarded tonight apparently.
OP, either get the BenQ XL2411Z or the Asus VG248QE. They're both TN panels, because IPS has input delay, so you're trading slight picture quality (namely color accuracy, which is not truly important unless you're working in print media as I understand it) for refresh rate and 1ms input delay. Both are excellent for muh gaymen. Go with like the Dell here:
http://thewirecutter.com/reviews/dell-u2412m-monitor-best-monitor/
>>45274126
Much obliged.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CrossOver-290M-LG-IPS-LED-2560x1080-QHD-DVI-D-21-9-cineview-29-Computer-Monitor-/221514810120?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item33934fc308
This is the monitor i plan to buy. Not 1920x1080, But the panel is so nice.
The way I see the tn vs ips debate is
>How often are you going to be consuming content above 60hz?
Relatively rarely in anything other than indie games.
>How often will you be viewing colour on your monitor?
Pretty much all the time.
>>45273990
>Obviously 1920x1080 and I would like a 120hz refresh rate
>2014
>still buying 1080p monitors
FULL retard
If your GPU can play games at 120fps, then they can sure as hell play them at 2560x1440.
>>45274237
don't get a 29 inch model, get the 25 inch one.
120hz is not necessary. ever. Only time you really need higher than 60 is if you have a CRT where the frame drawing is still visible as flickering at 60fps.
>>45274465
Sony Trinitron masterrace
Is the best 1920x1200 monitor the U2412M? Do you think it will be a lot cheaper in the next 2 weeks?
>>45274465
>Not necessary
If you can perceive a difference, why stop at the arbitrary limit of 60?
Next you'll be crying that you still want to discern individual pixels.
>>45273990
You're kind of buying at a point in time that's somewhat of a grey area. We're coming close to point (2015/16~) where 2560x1440 starts to become the standard. That said, 1080 is perfectly fine.
>>45273990
I'd recommend an AOC 2752 series monitor.
27" (which everyone here will hate, of course), 1920x1080, 2ms delay. Great for gaming, really. I couldn't do less than 27" again.
>>45274491
The reason people think they can discern these things is that back when everyone used CRT's the difference between 60 and 70 fps was incredibly noticeable; this is because up to ~67-77 fps the human eye can see the screen redrawing. With LCD panels things aren't shown the same way. it still updates line by line, but the previous drawing does not fade away because unlike CRT's where the electron guns would fire and momentarily light a phosphor, then move on, an LCD (or other flat-panel technology equivalent) _keeps_ the previous line displayed until it is told specifically to re-draw the scanline. It does not disappear the moment the electron gun has moved past the line. There is no electron gun, after all!
at 67-77 FPS (with the _EXTREMELY_ rare outlier) the human eye stops being able to see the flicker. Most people when buying their flat panels did not know this but placed value on higher refresh rates because they thought that it would work the same way a CRT did, in that respect. For non-sudden changes (like a jeep driving down a dirt road) the human eye cannot detect any difference above around 30fps. But with sudden changes (like flashes, that one pokemon episode that caused all those seizures, etc) the eye detects the change much faster because that's how we evolved. In fact, most people's response times upon seeing something is around 1-3 whole seconds!-- so double the FPS does not really change much.
It's a placebo effect.
>>45274491
>>45274581
P.S. on most CRT's (up to around 14 inches) you can't discern individual pixels on resolutions above 1024x768. The dot pitch is too low to display the pixels.
>>45274600
Why "up to around 14 inches"?
Most enthusiasts still using CRT monitors are using larger, high end aperture grille models with more than 1024 stripes.
>>45274637
above 14 inches the same dot pitch as compared to a 14 inch monitor (like one that fits on my desk) will allow more pixels to be displayed.
I chose 14 inches because that's the size of my computer's CRT.
I have an LCD and a CRT; I play movies and games on the CRT and I do work and shit on the LCD. Depends what you're looking for.
If you have a 27 inch monstrosity (like my TV in the basement) at the same dot pitch as my 14-inch CRT you can get an incredible number of pixels in that space.
>>45274637
It isn't measured in stripes. And I'm talking about my Sony Trinitron.
:D
>>45274683
clarification: it is measured in DPI.
>>45274637
Yeah, still trying to get my hands on one of those 20 inch sony BVM's. Think my local TV station is getting rid of some soon.
>>45274669
Unfortunately, CRT TVs usually have a very coarse dot/stripe pitch. The finest CRT I can think of is the Sony Trinitron F520 which had a .22mm stripe pitch and 20" diagonal viewable area, which would be just over 1800 stripes. I think the FW900 has more stripes, but just because it's larger (the pitch is higher).
>>45274683
Aperture grille CRTs have stripes rather than dots. That's what makes them aperture grilles rather than shadow masks. An aperture grille CRT like a Trinitron has a stripe pitch rather than a dot pitch.
>>45274544
What the actual fuck, those pixels must be massive, that is WAY to big a screen for such a low resolution
For someone who plays a lot of games, which is the better monitor?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009H0XQQY?tag=thewire06-20&linkCode=as2
or
http://www.amazon.com/BenQ-XL2720Z-27-inch-Performance-Monitor/dp/B00GWFNMJS/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top
>want a new monitor (have a AOC 29inch 21:9 IPS that i regret buying because lots of vidya have issues with 21:9)
>prefer 27''
>decently priced 120-144hz monitors in 27''
>TN panel
>also 1080p and 27inch dont go well together
>decently priced 2560x1440
>most are IPS with garbage refresh rate and that famous IPS glow
>check for 120+hz screens with 1440p
>overpriced as fuck
only panel taht fits my needs is that Asus swift something that costs 800$ because it has g-sync
>>45274795
benq, IPS is more for color accuracy (artists/designers and such)
also some panels have noticable glow around the edges whe you play dark games
>>45274738
>>45274738
Taken with a handheld camera, a magnifying glass, and my trinitron 100sf. It does indeed use stripes but it also uses empty scanlines to differentiate between pixels. At 800x600 it's noticeable with the naked eye, and looks like playing a SNES.
>>45274825
My Korean overclockable 27" 1440p PLS cost $289 on Newegg. Stop being poor.
>>45274795
>>45274840
>1080p
>27"
no, that's fucking retarded, get the Dell
>>45274848
Damn, just realized how good the photo I took looks. I'm making it my wallpaper.
>>45274126
>and as a bonus you get four USB ports for plugging in whatever keyboards or meeces you might use.
>>45274866
>ips
>gaming
>>45274902
>implying it fucking matters at all
>>45274862
i dont want to buy some fagleap or any other shit panel coming from those bastards
korean 1440 were only popular because they were way cheaper than any other similar monitor by a proper brand at the time.
>>45274902
I game on an IPS display. Unless you're playing FPS it doesn't really make a difference, and every game ever made will appreciate the better display
>>45274916
ghosting , blur and glow are noticeable on 99% of IPS monitors
>>45274942
and they still look better
>>45274756
No, not really. If I get really close I can see pixels, but that's to be said of any monitor.
I'm really impressed, myself. Looks great. The only issue, and I think it's driver related, is that the screen will act like it's changing inputs for a brief second when I turn on full screen 1080p video, be it YouTube or VLC.
>>45274963
Colors do, the rest nope
Glow is fuckin annoying, even with my brightnesss set at 0
what benefits from 120fps other than playing FPS games?
Pretty much all videos are all 24-30fps, unless you count those 3d blu ray ones
>>45275018
Hz and FPS are not the same thing
read about it
>>45274451
>buying 1440p when 4K is around the corner
EXTRA retard
>>45275018
Shit, even then, 60FPS is perfectly smooth. I'm an avid PC gamer and I'd rather have a nice, clear, detailed screen than over 60FPS. That said, I put enough money into my PC that I rarely get under 60FPS either.
>>45275018
You also get smoother motion for cursor movement, scrolling, etc.
Plus the ability to play 24 FPS, 30 FPS, and 60 FPS video without changing refresh rates. Most monitors aren't even capable of playing 24 FPS video properly because they don't support any refresh rates other than 60Hz, even though 48/24 are lower.
>>45275044
i really hope Nvidia and AMD step their shit up, because from the evolution that we see in GPU we wont be able to get decent framerate in 4K anytime soon.
Thats why 1440 still sells better and that the price difference isnt that much.
>>45275043
A 24fps video will look pretty much the same on a 60hz and 120hz screen. 120hz just refreshing the same still image 2 times more than the 60hz.
So I'd rather take the one that looks nicest.
>>45275073
AMD have a TSV card right around the corner u dumbass
>>45275094
for movies sure, but for video games, its noticeable.
>>45275094
Your statement would be true if you replaced 24fps with 30fps, but 24fps video can't even be displayed properly on a 60hz display because it's not an even multiple. The difference is quite noticeable under certain circumstances.
>>45275101
ill wait till they release a broken product that under-performs and see it drop in price because it cant match its nvidia counterpart, like always.
>>45274581
a better analysis is on what low persistence does with the oculus rift: http://www.joystiq.com/2014/01/07/testing-the-huge-breakthrough-in-new-oculus-rift-vr-prototype/
Pony up for ye 120Hz Eizo
>>45275237
what in the fuck is Eizo?
That guy from assassins creed?
>>45274581
Nigger I can tell the difference between 60 and 120 just by waving the cursor around, let alone when there's motion across the whole screen.
>>45275257
Yes, he makes bitchin computer screens.
